Re: EXODUS
Allan Balliett wrote: Drown us in content and keep the archives interesting for the next guy. I can't imagine anyone getting this far in the archive..
Re: EXODUS
Barry, As much as I have enjoyed sharing political views with people on this list, I have found that I need respit. I particularly enjoyed reading Charles Chaplin's biography and seeing videos of his films--anything creative--but he was barred from returning to the U.S. because he made The Great Dictator. I liked Bill Moyer's NOW program tonight. It's the spiritual depth of the speakers that helps. I appreciate all that Move-on is doing, but the vibration of the whole plethora of ills of our culture including the war is too much for me. I can't understand how people could enjoy watching the Gulf War on TV. I can't listen to any news program without thinking of depleted uranium weapons. I would like somehow to do something spiritual together as a group. Could we take something from RS or some other spiritual guide and write on it together at this time and not mention all the bad stuff? Is that being an ostrich? Best, Merla Barry Carter wrote: Dear Friends, At 01:38 PM 3/7/2003, you wrote: Indeed the deterioration of this this list recently has been sad. What just a year or two ago was an active forum with good substantiative topics has reverted to mostly global news, and chit chat. Not trying to be too negative but there is so much potential (check the archives), that I feel we're missing out on. We hashed this out a few weeks back. Since then I've been contemplating a idea raised then. When I see Merla post about the troubles world affairs might be causing her it solidifies my thoughts. Some of us like, need, or choose to live in our own little BD world. There is a lot if injustice in this world, and being able to deal with all the negatives isn't for everyone. There are places (many) that on can go for news, alternative, mainstream, political opinions. There aren't many places one can go to find those experienced in BD, especially in a forum where the back and forth of discussion often reveals so much. I agree. I moderate several dozen forums, mostly on ORMUS. At one point I found that I had to set up an ORMUS and Spirit forum and an ORMUS Politics forum in order to keep these discussions from creating bad feelings on the WhiteGold list. This might be something that could be tried here too. Also, since many of Jane Sherry's forwarded posts come from the Globalnews list I would recommend that anyone who wishes to get this information subscribe directly to that list. Here are the commands for the Globalnews list: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- With kindest regards, Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2319 Balm Baker City, Oregon 97814 Phone: 541-523-3357 Web Pages: Forest - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/bmnfa/index.htm ORMUS - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you. --Emmet Fox
Re: EXODUS/apologies
Folks, My apologies...My EXODUS post yesterday was sent in error before completion. Hopefully there wasn't too many spelling or grammar errors. I stand behind the content, but probably would have changed a phrase or two. (stopping and thinking about it is easier with email than verbalization...at least when you don't press the wrong button). Its a great big world out there, fraught with things that exhilarate and decimate. There is however a limited time that a humans can spend their infinite wealth of mental energies. Is it better to contemplate the outrage of impending war, or the plight of a misfortunate child in an undeveloped country, or spend the thoughts on enriching the soil in your garden, or helping the clover seeds germinating in your pastures? Is it necessary to do both? What are the implications if one more often chooses the latter to think about, rather than the former? I contend that staying home and spraying 500 is just as important (maybe even more so) in the whole grand scheme of things than marching on Washington trying to stop a loose cannon. Back in the 90's (boy, does that sound as weird to you as it does to me) I had the mis/fortune of fighting a local corporation who wanted to build a smokestack industry just down the road from where I lived. After 3 years of spending enormous amounts of time, money and mental energy I wound up having to move anyway! All that banging of the head, the sleepless nights for nothing... I actually don't regret doing it, but if the situation came up again I'm not sure I would repeat my previous actions. Needless to say the growth of the individual human spirit can take many shapes and many paths. Those who choose their own little BD world are just as right as those who choose the global world. We're all going the same way, and we'll all get there together. It's the routes we take that, however, are unique. Ed
Re: EXODUS/apologies
Ed Sherwood wrote: Needless to say the growth of the individual human spirit can take many shapes and many paths. Those who choose their own little BD world are just as right as those who choose the global world. We're all going the same way, and we'll all get there together. It's the routes we take that, however, are unique. I just hope you're right, Ed, and that we don't all wake up one day in the near future with our world in tatters and most probably back to the Stone Age (certainly for a lot of people) because your president can't keep his trigger-finger away from the firing button. Howard and Blair are just puppets dancing to his tune, one played in the wrong key. roger
Re: EXODUS
Please read this whole thing. There are some valueable suggestions contained. What passes for political discussion on this list has its genesis in how we are lied to about our food supply in the US and how that affects the world. Recent events have broadened this discussion, but, as long as we have people who maintain that, for example, pasteurized and homogonized milk are good for you, an effort must be made to help people become aware or remain aware that governments are not working for the good of the people they govern. Awareness of the world as it is and not as we've been enculturated is an important aspect of the awareness necessary for being a good biodynamic farmer. Jane - Isn't there a possibility of opening more discussion on Global News itself? It's the spiritual perspective of political discussion that BD Now! is unique in providing. It w.b. great for me if that could be maintained and discussion occur on Global News instead of BD Now! Secondary to this, however, are the low level of biodynamic posts made by people who want to complain about what other people want to talk about. If you have nothing informational to contribute, how about starting topics or asking questions? Better than making on-topic noise for the sake of noise, howabout posting a review of a biodynamic book or howabout posting some segments from a biodynamic publication? In that fashion you can increase the signal-to-noise ratio yourself and not feel so at affect of what people are concerned with how global fascism may affect their ability to farm in the near future. I'm serious: get out the scanner and send up a page or two of bd stuff you find of interest or would like to discuss. Copyright law offers a fair amount of leniency for educational use of printed materials, so you don't have an excuse. Drown us in content and keep the archives interesting for the next guy. -Allan
Re: EXODUS/apologies
He is not really our president. He is the puppet of the new world order and know that he does have a gun to his head, remember JFK and his plans to end the war in VietNam. This bs has been going on since the Civil War, a war fought not over slavery but the Northern English against the Irish and other races that had inhabited the south...sstorch Don't apologize for W, Steve. Read the article Jane posted on his family. Nazis went underground after WWII and come up here. Aside from that, Dick Gregory categorizes US presidential history as a battle between COWBOYS and YANKEES with the nadir being YANKEE Kennedy shot in TEXAS and being replaced by COWBOY LBJ. But what we have in the white house is the bushes is the monstrous hybrid of both malignant strains: THE YANKEE FROM TEXAS. Steve - Thanks for your eclectic selection of topics. -Allan
Re: EXODUS
Dear Friends, At 01:38 PM 3/7/2003, you wrote: Indeed the deterioration of this this list recently has been sad. What just a year or two ago was an active forum with good substantiative topics has reverted to mostly global news, and chit chat. Not trying to be too negative but there is so much potential (check the archives), that I feel we're missing out on. We hashed this out a few weeks back. Since then I've been contemplating a idea raised then. When I see Merla post about the troubles world affairs might be causing her it solidifies my thoughts. Some of us like, need, or choose to live in our own little BD world. There is a lot if injustice in this world, and being able to deal with all the negatives isn't for everyone. There are places (many) that on can go for news, alternative, mainstream, political opinions. There aren't many places one can go to find those experienced in BD, especially in a forum where the back and forth of discussion often reveals so much. I agree. I moderate several dozen forums, mostly on ORMUS. At one point I found that I had to set up an ORMUS and Spirit forum and an ORMUS Politics forum in order to keep these discussions from creating bad feelings on the WhiteGold list. This might be something that could be tried here too. Also, since many of Jane Sherry's forwarded posts come from the Globalnews list I would recommend that anyone who wishes to get this information subscribe directly to that list. Here are the commands for the Globalnews list: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- With kindest regards, Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2319 Balm Baker City, Oregon 97814 Phone: 541-523-3357 Web Pages: Forest - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/bmnfa/index.htm ORMUS - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you. --Emmet Fox
