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Dear friends, We in N.Z. are being threatened with the release of G.M.O.'s into our environment. In the U.S.A. you have been living with situation for a while Have any members of this list had G.M. pollen affect plants on your properties? Have you had any friends or neighbours affected in this way? Is it a concern for anyone or has some one found a way to protect from contamination or clean it out afterwards? - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps > Sorry if you read me wrong, Jane. My intention was not to chastise > you but simply bring you up to date. No emotional energy here. > > I have total respect for Jean-Paul, which is why I was curious about > why he would care about the physcial attributes of the preps. > > Your remark about 'political bruha' seems to trivialize the actual > state of things. It is important to understand that if the USDA says > that manure-based compost teas are 'dangerous,' it's not going to be > acceptable to the customers of we non-certified organic practitioners > to provide them food that 'shit has been sprayed on.' Anyone to steps > in the realm of reason in regard to this will really be putting > themself in jeopardy should any of their customers become ill for any > reason whatsoever after eating a meal containing tea blasted produce. > > Let me be clear about this, though: the USDA is just discussing the > sanctions on tea right now. This is not, as far as I understand, part > of the certification rule currently. (Lloyd? Frank?) > > Ironically, I have been thinking of adding oat straw tea to my daily > routine. That and 1m hypericum 3x daily for a few weeks. > > Thanks for the post, Jane -Allan >
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Not an answer to Peter's concerns, but I read yesterday that ROUNDUP READY Alfalfa is being used this season. I had not ever heard of it before. -Allan
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Hi Peter, Put "Percy Schmeiser" into your search engine. He has a website where he tells how Monsanto hounded him when his canola crop in Saskatchewan was contaminated with Roundup Ready Canola and he had never planted GMO seeds or used roundup. They sent in retired Royal Mounted Police to intimidate anyone who had been contaminated because their patent on Roundup Ready Canola superseeded a farmer's right to save seed. They offered a leather jacket to anyone who would rat on his neighbor. Percy had been the mayor of his town and in the Canadian parliament and he knew his way around. He refused to pay the fine. Monsanto sued him as an example. He has fought them all the way, but patent law made it impossible for him to win. He has spent $300,000 fighting them. Read "Facing Down Goliath" on that website. Evidently, many growers in the U.S. and Canada have been contaminated--canola, soybeans and corn. It's a nightmare. Contamination is inevitable. Zambia refused to accept GMO corn as humanitarian aid because they understood that it was just a ploy to contaminate their country's seeds. My advice would be to organize and fight this in any way you can, Merla Peter Michael Bacchus wrote: > Dear friends, > We in N.Z. are being threatened with the release of > G.M.O.'s into our environment. In the U.S.A. you have been living with > situation for a while > Have any members of this list had G.M. pollen affect > plants on your properties? > Have you had any friends or neighbours affected in > this way? >Is it a concern for anyone or has some one found a > way to protect from contamination or clean it out afterwards? > > - Original Message - > From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps > > > Sorry if you read me wrong, Jane. My intention was not to chastise > > you but simply bring you up to date. No emotional energy here. > > > > I have total respect for Jean-Paul, which is why I was curious about > > why he would care about the physcial attributes of the preps. > > > > Your remark about 'political bruha' seems to trivialize the actual > > state of things. It is important to understand that if the USDA says > > that manure-based compost teas are 'dangerous,' it's not going to be > > acceptable to the customers of we non-certified organic practitioners > > to provide them food that 'shit has been sprayed on.' Anyone to steps > > in the realm of reason in regard to this will really be putting > > themself in jeopardy should any of their customers become ill for any > > reason whatsoever after eating a meal containing tea blasted produce. > > > > Let me be clear about this, though: the USDA is just discussing the > > sanctions on tea right now. This is not, as far as I understand, part > > of the certification rule currently. (Lloyd? Frank?) > > > > Ironically, I have been thinking of adding oat straw tea to my daily > > routine. That and 1m hypericum 3x daily for a few weeks. > > > > Thanks for the post, Jane -Allan > >
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Peter-- My friends' neighbor hired Roundup to be sprayed on that neighbor's conventional Roundup Ready crop. The Roundup drifted onto my friends' certified organic cornfield. It ruined quite a bit of his crop beyond his buffer strip, causing him to have that area decertified for three years. But the kicker is that when he finally found a lab willing to test for presence of Roundup, it was there. And the sample corn that was sent in for the test was picked 3 months after the overspraying occurred. The lesson: Roundup persists longer than the 30 days Monsanto says it lasts. The independent sprayer paid for the losses out of his personal checking account. Susan
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Hi Peter and every one: we have not these problems in Brasil 'cause nationally a law rules on not planting gmos. Of course many farmers are interested on the "promises" but seems that we have paved a good way. I have read a bit about gmos, and some pollen migration were detected in Oaxaca, Mexico which contaminated wild corn in the area. There was a very tense situation because mexican government tried to do not let information about migration to be published. I've heard the same had happen in setentional Europe on wild beet. One site that you could look at is http://www.bio-integrity.org/ where you can find some warnnings not heard inside USDA. You problably know about the recent UKs Soil Association report on gmos? BR Nelson. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
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ve if they contain plant genes, accidental if they contain animal genes), one must take advantage of the progressive or evolutionary strengths of the biodynamic preparations and remedies. Dr. Steiner gave the world these remedies to HEAL the Earth. So it is now essential for us to take advantage of this fact, whether or not the field on which you are working needs remediation. As we said, the GMO's will move from field to field, insect to insect, plant to plant and cover a wider and wider area, effecting all that is around them, mineral, plant, animal and humankind. The preparations work to counter this, even to the point that a field that has the benefit of the biodynamic remedies will not accept the GMO's and those that have them will see their decline and eventual elimination. Why is this? It may seem on the surface self-serving to say, "OK Just use the preps and the problem will go away" without any evidence to back it up. Well, the evidence will come in time viewed as results. But the reasoning is sound. From a spiritual science point of view, imbalances and disharmonies create monstrous plants and animals, wars and other intolerable situations. The purpose of the BD preps is to REESTABLISH the natural and proper balances and harmonies so that the Earth and all its life forms do not have to experience the extremes of polarized thinking. Thus, we can conclude that if we apply these remedies, a change for the better will, sooner or later, take place. Hopefully, sooner. But that is dependent on the thinking of the people involved in the remediation program. Now, lets get down to specifics. A sequential spray of BD preps is always better then spraying one or two at time. So, assuming that the field does not have the benefit of biodynamic compost (which is preferred) we would begin such a program with the premix, followed by barrel compost, 500, 501, horn clay and 508. Emphasis should be placed on applying 508 since it balances 501. Premix, barrel compost and 500 make a complete balanced package. Horn clay plays the pivotal role of making all the BD preps work in balance and harmony. These sequences can be applied at any time of the year but it would be best in the Spring and the Fall. Nevertheless, they can be applied in the Summer as well, that is, up to three times per year. Now let us expand a little on this sequence. The premix is designed to provide the field with a shock, just as is the barrel compost. But this premix is more powerful than the barrel compost in that it has the ability to connect the field directly with the Cosmos instantly while the barrel compost takes about two or three days for this to occur. That is why the premix is so important for this sequence. Why not use other preps in this sequence? Not needed. The use of 505 will, in specific situations, help reestablish the astral plane energies but that, in this instance, is being provided by the return of the Nature Spirits. The Premix will solve that problem. This is not the same situation as exists when we use the 7 Step Sequence which is remedial for non-GMO fields. Hybrid rootstocks and grapevines, or any other hybrid crop, do not face the same challenges as do the GMO exposed field. For those fields, the 7 Step Sequence is the sequence of choice. Another step that should be made is to provide the field with certain companion plants that will offset those GMO's in the field. These plants should be the same kind of plants that attract the insects that normally fertilize the GMO crop. This will have a dramatic effect of offsetting the damage done by the planting of GMO's. Now, what can one do personally to offset the damage if eating GMO infested food? Meditate and eat healthy food, preferably biodynamic or organic from a farm that has experienced deep spiritual energy. The body is not locked in this cycle and Free Will gives us the ability to choose what we eat, even if we have to grow it ourselves. We emphasize biodynamic food not to further the biodynamic movement as some would do. We emphasize food grown spiritually. Today, biodynamics offers the best methodology for doing this. There is little else that can be done than as we have outlined here. But taking these steps will significantly alter everything. The New Biodynamics offers hope that the Old Biodynamics could never provide. The simple addition of horn clay changes EVERYTHING and makes it possible for the old BD remedies to work in the next millennium. Copyright 1999 Greg Willis Cheryl Kemp Education and Workshop Coordinator Biodynamic AgriCulture Australia Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.biodynamics.net.au - Original Message - From: "Peter Michael Bacchus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Re: G.M.O. transfers > Dear friends, > We in N.Z. are being threatened with the relea
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I don't know if you are not aware of GMO crops being used in Brazil, but, I had read years ago about those multi-nat.-corps. doing business in Brazil. It might be more prevalent than you think, or, it was stopped in the early stages. I haven't been following the story now for a couple of years since the GMO list is no longer free. Michael - Original Message - From: "Nelson Jacomel Junior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: G.M.O. transfers > Hi Peter and every one: > we have not these problems in Brasil 'cause nationally a law rules on not > planting gmos. Of course many farmers are interested on the "promises" but > seems that we have paved a good way. > I have read a bit about gmos, and some pollen migration were detected in > Oaxaca, Mexico which contaminated wild corn in the area. There was a very tense > situation because mexican government tried to do not let information about > migration to be published. I've heard the same had happen in setentional Europe > on wild beet. > One site that you could look at is http://www.bio-integrity.org/ where you can > find some warnnings not heard inside USDA. You problably know about the recent > UKs Soil Association report on gmos? > BR > Nelson. > > > - > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > >
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The was on our certifier's list: Biotech Firm Mishandled Corn in Iowa By Justin Gillis Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, November 14, 2002; Page E01 The biotechnology company that mishandled gene-altered corn in Nebraska did the same thing in Iowa, the government disclosed yesterday. Fearing that pollen from corn not approved for human consumption may have spread to nearby fields of ordinary corn, the U.S. Department of Agriculture ordered 155 acres of Iowa corn pulled up in September and incinerated. The disclosure raised new questions about the conduct of ProdiGene Inc., a company in College Station, Tex., that is now under investigation for allegedly violating government permits in two states. The ProdiGene matter is proving to be a black eye for the biotech industry, which has been trying to reassure the public it can be trusted not to contaminate the food supply. The new disclosure also is likely to have a political impact in Iowa, where politicians of both parties have been attacking a new industry-sponsored moratorium on planting genetically altered corn anywhere in the Midwest corn belt. The ProdiGene case is an example of the kind of breakdown that moratorium is meant to prevent. Both the government and environmental groups have long been keeping watch on ProdiGene, a small privately held company pushing aggressively to turn corn plants into mini-factories to produce protein-based pharmaceutical or industrial products. ProdiGene is the only company to have entered commercial production of such a protein, an enzyme called trypsin, and it is working on many others. In neither Nebraska nor Iowa did gene-altered corn, or soybeans growing in the same fields, enter the food supply, said Cindy Smith, acting head of biotechnology regulation for the USDA. "It wasn't luck" that inspectors caught the problems before any unapproved products entered the food supply, she said. "It was planned luck." She made it clear the government considers the violations significant and is weighing serious penalties. In addition, she said, the department may consider revising its rules to lessen the chance of similar problems in the future. ProdiGene has acknowledged only "compliance challenges," releasing few details. Anthony G. Laos, the company's president and chief executive, said in a statement last night that the Iowa situation had been "fully resolved to the complete satisfaction of the U.S. government." Before the Iowa case was disclosed, environmental groups attacked USDA officials yesterday for their handling of a problem in which 500,000 bushels of Nebraska soybeans got mixed with a small number of genetically modified ProdiGene corn plants, calling the mixing a "gross failure" of the regulatory system designed to protect the food supply. Several groups assailed the government's refusal to identify the industrial or pharmaceutical protein that may have been contained in the corn. "There is a genetically engineered pharmaceutical or industrial chemical that mistakenly entered into the grain supply, only one stop away from getting into our food, and the government isn't talking," said Matt Rand, biotechnology campaign manager for the National Environmental Trust. "The public has the right to know what's going on." It was unclear yesterday whether the corn involved in the Iowa and Nebraska cases was the same variety, or whether they were different varieties designed to produce two different proteins. The USDA and the Food and Drug Administration have quarantined 500,000 bushels of soybeans at a grain warehouse in Aurora, Neb., while deciding what to do. About 500 bushels of soybeans, containing a small but detectable amount of leaves and stalks from gene-altered corn plants, were mixed into the 500,000 bushels, compromising the whole lot. USDA and FDA officials have said the beans probably will be destroyed or turned into fuel. In both the Iowa and Nebraska cases, ProdiGene, or farmers working for the company, grew test plots of gene-altered corn in 2001. Ordinary soybeans were planted in the same fields in 2002, but a few corn seeds left over from the year before sprouted. ProdiGene was required to ensure those corn plants were removed before they could contaminate the soybeans or spread pollen to nearby cornfields, but the company failed to do so, the government has said. In the Iowa case, the gene-altered corn may have been spreading pollen at the same time plants in nearby fields were receptive, raising the theoretical possibility that genes unapproved for human or animal consumption could have spread into ordinary field corn, the USDA said. Government inspectors therefore ordered that 155 acres of nearby corn be uprooted and burned.