Re: [beagleboard] debian testing install (jessie)

2014-07-26 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a netinstall version of jessie available for beagle bone black?
 I'm having trouble with sorely needed packages being unavailable in wheezy.

Jessie is enabled in the netinstall: --distro jessie

It's using a d-i ramdisk image from 20140316 off debian server's.
(still the latest they have).

Otherwise it's pretty bug free.

Regards,

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[beagleboard] Really dumb kmod question ...

2014-07-26 Thread g4
I've flashed my B^3 with the minimal Debian distribution using a development
kernel (very well) documented here:

 

http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone#BeagleBone-Debian7%28smallfl
ash%29

 

One minor inconvenience is that modprobe and friends do not seem to be
symlinked as implied by kmod. Worse kmod itself refuses to tell me how to
install a module. Google shows nothing of use. Can anyone help me with the
simplest example?

 

debian@arm:/$ kmod load
/lib/modules/3.14.8-bone5/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/g_audio.ko

invalid command 'load'

kmod - Manage kernel modules: list, load, unload, etc

Usage:

kmod [options] command [command_options]

 

Options:

-V, --version show version

-h, --helpshow this help

 

Commands:

  help Show help message

  list list currently loaded modules

 

kmod also handles gracefully if called from following symlinks:

  lsmodcompat lsmod command

  rmmodcompat rmmod command

  insmod   compat insmod command

  modinfo  compat modinfo command

  modprobe compat modprobe command

depmod   compat depmod command

 

Pointers *much*appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread Lucas Tanure
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org wrote:
 On 07/25/14 11:43, Lucas Tanure wrote:

 Robert,

 I have a BBB and I wrote http://elinux.org/Building_for_BeagleBone.
 So, I'm looking for something to do when I finish the eudyptula challenge.
 I'm thinking in work for BBB be better supported in mainline.

 I was thinking if I can run mainline in BBB what Robert has in his tree
 that should be in mainline in order to better support BBB.

 Thanks
 Tanure


 Hi Lucas,

 the part about crosstool-ng is pretty weak. You also need to
 have kernel header files to build a cross tool chain with
 crosstool-ng.

It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier
cross-compiler rather than building my own.
I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I publish.


 Building your own kernel for BeagleBone is no easy trick,
 getting the kernel header files exported from RCN's tree
 has been a bothersome pain for the 3.8 tree.
 reference: http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html

Why I need to do that ? I think that 3.15 runs in BBB just fine, right ?
I just need more time to build my rootfs and I'm good to go.


 If you like, I can give you information to make that page
 you wrote on elinux.org to be more useful.

 Cheers...

Yes, of course, send me what you think that can improve or go there and edit.
We can talk a lot and improve, so anyone can benefit.

Thanks
Lucas Tanure

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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans

 *It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier*
 * cross-compiler rather than building my own.*
 * I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I publish.*


You have a problem with the Linaro toolchain ? That is what is used for
uboot and the kernel . . .

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Lucas Tanure tan...@linux.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
 wrote:
  On 07/25/14 11:43, Lucas Tanure wrote:
 
  Robert,
 
  I have a BBB and I wrote http://elinux.org/Building_for_BeagleBone.
  So, I'm looking for something to do when I finish the eudyptula
 challenge.
  I'm thinking in work for BBB be better supported in mainline.
 
  I was thinking if I can run mainline in BBB what Robert has in his tree
  that should be in mainline in order to better support BBB.
 
  Thanks
  Tanure
 
 
  Hi Lucas,
 
  the part about crosstool-ng is pretty weak. You also need to
  have kernel header files to build a cross tool chain with
  crosstool-ng.

 It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier
 cross-compiler rather than building my own.
 I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I publish.

 
  Building your own kernel for BeagleBone is no easy trick,
  getting the kernel header files exported from RCN's tree
  has been a bothersome pain for the 3.8 tree.
  reference: http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html

 Why I need to do that ? I think that 3.15 runs in BBB just fine, right ?
 I just need more time to build my rootfs and I'm good to go.

 
  If you like, I can give you information to make that page
  you wrote on elinux.org to be more useful.
 
  Cheers...

 Yes, of course, send me what you think that can improve or go there and
 edit.
 We can talk a lot and improve, so anyone can benefit.

 Thanks
 Lucas Tanure

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Re: [beagleboard] debian testing install (jessie)

2014-07-26 Thread Eric Fort
ok,

where can I get it and how do I go from what I get to something that
can be placed onto an sd card (then flashed)?  I found the following
browsing around the usual site for dev images:

https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/jessie/debian-jessie-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz
https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/trusty/ubuntu-14.04-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz
https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/utopic/ubuntu-utopic-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

 but how do I go from what they contain to a usable, possibly flashable SD card?

Thanks,

Eric

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a netinstall version of jessie available for beagle bone black?
 I'm having trouble with sorely needed packages being unavailable in wheezy.

 Jessie is enabled in the netinstall: --distro jessie

 It's using a d-i ramdisk image from 20140316 off debian server's.
 (still the latest they have).

 Otherwise it's pretty bug free.

 Regards,

 --
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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread Lucas Tanure
No, not a problem at all. I didn't know they existed.
I use arch, and there isn't a package for that. I search for ubuntu
package and didn't found as well.
For me the main point in this tutorial is easier to install, because
the user just wants to build the lasted kernel. But in another page we
can enumerate the toolchains options.

Thanks
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On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier
 cross-compiler rather than building my own.
 I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I publish.


 You have a problem with the Linaro toolchain ? That is what is used for
 uboot and the kernel . . .

 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Lucas Tanure tan...@linux.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
 wrote:
  On 07/25/14 11:43, Lucas Tanure wrote:
 
  Robert,
 
  I have a BBB and I wrote http://elinux.org/Building_for_BeagleBone.
  So, I'm looking for something to do when I finish the eudyptula
  challenge.
  I'm thinking in work for BBB be better supported in mainline.
 
  I was thinking if I can run mainline in BBB what Robert has in his tree
  that should be in mainline in order to better support BBB.
 
  Thanks
  Tanure
 
 
  Hi Lucas,
 
  the part about crosstool-ng is pretty weak. You also need to
  have kernel header files to build a cross tool chain with
  crosstool-ng.

 It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier
 cross-compiler rather than building my own.
 I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I publish.

 
  Building your own kernel for BeagleBone is no easy trick,
  getting the kernel header files exported from RCN's tree
  has been a bothersome pain for the 3.8 tree.
  reference: http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html

 Why I need to do that ? I think that 3.15 runs in BBB just fine, right ?
 I just need more time to build my rootfs and I'm good to go.

 
  If you like, I can give you information to make that page
  you wrote on elinux.org to be more useful.
 
  Cheers...

 Yes, of course, send me what you think that can improve or go there and
 edit.
 We can talk a lot and improve, so anyone can benefit.

 Thanks
 Lucas Tanure

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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread Douglas Jerome

On 07/26/14 11:26, William Hermans wrote:

/It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier/
/cross-compiler rather than building my own./
/I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I
publish./


You have a problem with the Linaro toolchain ? That is what is used for
uboot and the kernel . . .


I'm not saying to be snide or sarcastic, really, but anyone
can play that nonsense game: You have a problem with a
crosstool-ng tool chain?  And to the next statement: which
uboot and kernel? *The* uboot and kernel? Not mine:
http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html

The Linux-targeted cross tool chain has an associated glibc
and kernel interface; I build versions of those of my own
preference to suit my ttylinux distribution. That is why
I build my cross tool chain from sources with crosstool-ng.
With this approach I have commonality to make ttylinux
for mac-g4, beaglebone, i486, i686, x8_64 of the same versions
of glibc and Linux kernel, each built with a crosstool-ng
produced cross tool chain constructed with the proper glibc
and kernel interfaces.
https://github.com/djerome/crosslinux

The world does not revolve around what you happen to
use. Just most of it. :)

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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans
Lucas,

In that case perhaps crosstool-ng may be the way to go. I mean you *could*
also run a Debian VM just as a support system for the BBB. But that adds
complexity, which may / may not outweigh just building your own toolchain.
It depends on how much you know about what, and what you do / do not like
to do. Some people, myself included just do not feel like building their
own tools chains . . .

Douglas, obviously you do not use the prebuilt images that come shipped
with the BBB. I do not either, I build my own custom images based on RCN's
instructions / scripts. Why ? Because I have too many other things going on
in my life to learn / worry about yet_another_thing. I have a project in
mind, for which I have *many* things to learn. I really do not want to add
to that pile any more than I have to. So, this is not a game this is called
getting something done with the least amount of resistance as possible. It
almost sounds like you took my last post personal. Also remember your last
statement works both ways.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
wrote:

 On 07/26/14 11:26, William Hermans wrote:

 /It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier/
 /cross-compiler rather than building my own./
 /I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I
 publish./



 You have a problem with the Linaro toolchain ? That is what is used for
 uboot and the kernel . . .


 I'm not saying to be snide or sarcastic, really, but anyone
 can play that nonsense game: You have a problem with a
 crosstool-ng tool chain?  And to the next statement: which
 uboot and kernel? *The* uboot and kernel? Not mine:
 http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html

 The Linux-targeted cross tool chain has an associated glibc
 and kernel interface; I build versions of those of my own
 preference to suit my ttylinux distribution. That is why
 I build my cross tool chain from sources with crosstool-ng.
 With this approach I have commonality to make ttylinux
 for mac-g4, beaglebone, i486, i686, x8_64 of the same versions
 of glibc and Linux kernel, each built with a crosstool-ng
 produced cross tool chain constructed with the proper glibc
 and kernel interfaces.
 https://github.com/djerome/crosslinux

 The world does not revolve around what you happen to
 use. Just most of it. :)


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Re: [beagleboard] debian testing install (jessie)

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans
Erik, does this help ?

http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok,

 where can I get it and how do I go from what I get to something that
 can be placed onto an sd card (then flashed)?  I found the following
 browsing around the usual site for dev images:


 https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/jessie/debian-jessie-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

 https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/trusty/ubuntu-14.04-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

 https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/utopic/ubuntu-utopic-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

  but how do I go from what they contain to a usable, possibly flashable SD
 card?

 Thanks,

 Eric

 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there a netinstall version of jessie available for beagle bone black?
  I'm having trouble with sorely needed packages being unavailable in
 wheezy.
 
  Jessie is enabled in the netinstall: --distro jessie
 
  It's using a d-i ramdisk image from 20140316 off debian server's.
  (still the latest they have).
 
  Otherwise it's pretty bug free.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
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  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] debian testing install (jessie)

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans
Specifically for your given question:
http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-RootFileSystem

However, you'll need to scroll up to see how Robert describes / sets up the
mount points. Also those MD5 sums wont be the same as we're talking about
different archives. Obviously the file names will be different too, but
basically use these as an example of how to setup your own SDcard.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Erik, does this help ?

 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black


 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok,

 where can I get it and how do I go from what I get to something that
 can be placed onto an sd card (then flashed)?  I found the following
 browsing around the usual site for dev images:


 https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/jessie/debian-jessie-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

 https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/trusty/ubuntu-14.04-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

 https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/utopic/ubuntu-utopic-console-armhf-2014-07-06.tar.xz

  but how do I go from what they contain to a usable, possibly flashable
 SD card?

 Thanks,

 Eric

 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Is there a netinstall version of jessie available for beagle bone
 black?
  I'm having trouble with sorely needed packages being unavailable in
 wheezy.
 
  Jessie is enabled in the netinstall: --distro jessie
 
  It's using a d-i ramdisk image from 20140316 off debian server's.
  (still the latest they have).
 
  Otherwise it's pretty bug free.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
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  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread Lucas Tanure
Jerome,

Sorry I didn't understand what you want, or complain about that page.
Feel free to edit and add what you think is important.
I can only write about things I know, and understand. That tip about
Linaro toolchain was very good thanks, I will take a look.
The wiki is for anyone, from anyone. So add your way, so people can know of.

Willian,

I feel the same way, I just want to build my kernel, boot and use. I'm
not a expert, I'm a newbie, so I need first a easier and faster way to
get where I want.
For me, what I know about crosstool-ng is that you can choose many
variables and build a perfect compiler for you, using uLibc, gLibc
what ever you need. And I don't see yet why In that case perhaps
crosstool-ng may be the way to go. . What I'm missing in this case ?
What crosstool-ng is so much better than a preconfigured gcc from
ubuntu servers ?

I really want to write about crosstool-ng, but I need more time. That
page was a result of LFD411 - Embedded Linux Development, that was
awesome.
And now that I know of Linaro toolchain I will this information there
too, but I need time to try myself and write a good tutorial.

Thanks!
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On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lucas,

 In that case perhaps crosstool-ng may be the way to go. I mean you *could*
 also run a Debian VM just as a support system for the BBB. But that adds
 complexity, which may / may not outweigh just building your own toolchain.
 It depends on how much you know about what, and what you do / do not like to
 do. Some people, myself included just do not feel like building their own
 tools chains . . .

 Douglas, obviously you do not use the prebuilt images that come shipped with
 the BBB. I do not either, I build my own custom images based on RCN's
 instructions / scripts. Why ? Because I have too many other things going on
 in my life to learn / worry about yet_another_thing. I have a project in
 mind, for which I have *many* things to learn. I really do not want to add
 to that pile any more than I have to. So, this is not a game this is called
 getting something done with the least amount of resistance as possible. It
 almost sounds like you took my last post personal. Also remember your last
 statement works both ways.


 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
 wrote:

 On 07/26/14 11:26, William Hermans wrote:

 /It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier/
 /cross-compiler rather than building my own./
 /I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I
 publish./



 You have a problem with the Linaro toolchain ? That is what is used for
 uboot and the kernel . . .


 I'm not saying to be snide or sarcastic, really, but anyone
 can play that nonsense game: You have a problem with a
 crosstool-ng tool chain?  And to the next statement: which
 uboot and kernel? *The* uboot and kernel? Not mine:
 http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html

 The Linux-targeted cross tool chain has an associated glibc
 and kernel interface; I build versions of those of my own
 preference to suit my ttylinux distribution. That is why
 I build my cross tool chain from sources with crosstool-ng.
 With this approach I have commonality to make ttylinux
 for mac-g4, beaglebone, i486, i686, x8_64 of the same versions
 of glibc and Linux kernel, each built with a crosstool-ng
 produced cross tool chain constructed with the proper glibc
 and kernel interfaces.
 https://github.com/djerome/crosslinux

 The world does not revolve around what you happen to
 use. Just most of it. :)


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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans
Lucas, I started pretty much the same as you last year around may. I did a
lot of research / reading early on, and have had a bit of experience with
different gcc toolchains for different platforms. Previous to this I did a
lot of reading about the gcc port for the MSP430, so I really did not want
to spend a lot of time figuring out how to build my own toolchain using
crosstool-ng ( even though I did a bunch of reading on the subject ).

Also, as far as I know, you can setup / link to other libc's by configuring
the Linaro toolchain. I did a little reading on the subject to think I know
it is possible, but I'm no expert either. Since then I have started
thinking differently, about my own projects, and shifted more towards using
Nodejs( when possible ) versus using only natively compiled executables.

http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black This link may be a
good resource for you in how everything is setup. I've used this myself to
build my own custom images that are relatively very small. One such image
has standard tools such as openssh-server, ntpdate, Nodejs with express,
and socket.io installed in as little as 191M space.

Anyway, it seems to me that you'll probably want to at least eventually be
running ARCH on your BBB. Aside from letting you know that it has been done
by others already, I can offer very little assistance with that.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Lucas Tanure ltan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jerome,

 Sorry I didn't understand what you want, or complain about that page.
 Feel free to edit and add what you think is important.
 I can only write about things I know, and understand. That tip about
 Linaro toolchain was very good thanks, I will take a look.
 The wiki is for anyone, from anyone. So add your way, so people can know
 of.

 Willian,

 I feel the same way, I just want to build my kernel, boot and use. I'm
 not a expert, I'm a newbie, so I need first a easier and faster way to
 get where I want.
 For me, what I know about crosstool-ng is that you can choose many
 variables and build a perfect compiler for you, using uLibc, gLibc
 what ever you need. And I don't see yet why In that case perhaps
 crosstool-ng may be the way to go. . What I'm missing in this case ?
 What crosstool-ng is so much better than a preconfigured gcc from
 ubuntu servers ?

 I really want to write about crosstool-ng, but I need more time. That
 page was a result of LFD411 - Embedded Linux Development, that was
 awesome.
 And now that I know of Linaro toolchain I will this information there
 too, but I need time to try myself and write a good tutorial.

 Thanks!
 --
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 +55 (19) 988176559


 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Lucas,
 
  In that case perhaps crosstool-ng may be the way to go. I mean you
 *could*
  also run a Debian VM just as a support system for the BBB. But that adds
  complexity, which may / may not outweigh just building your own
 toolchain.
  It depends on how much you know about what, and what you do / do not
 like to
  do. Some people, myself included just do not feel like building their own
  tools chains . . .
 
  Douglas, obviously you do not use the prebuilt images that come shipped
 with
  the BBB. I do not either, I build my own custom images based on RCN's
  instructions / scripts. Why ? Because I have too many other things going
 on
  in my life to learn / worry about yet_another_thing. I have a project in
  mind, for which I have *many* things to learn. I really do not want to
 add
  to that pile any more than I have to. So, this is not a game this is
 called
  getting something done with the least amount of resistance as possible.
 It
  almost sounds like you took my last post personal. Also remember your
 last
  statement works both ways.
 
 
  On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
  wrote:
 
  On 07/26/14 11:26, William Hermans wrote:
 
  /It's not weak, It's empty. But, my focus was using a easier/
  /cross-compiler rather than building my own./
  /I will get crosstool-ng when I have more time to test before I
  publish./
 
 
 
  You have a problem with the Linaro toolchain ? That is what is used for
  uboot and the kernel . . .
 
 
  I'm not saying to be snide or sarcastic, really, but anyone
  can play that nonsense game: You have a problem with a
  crosstool-ng tool chain?  And to the next statement: which
  uboot and kernel? *The* uboot and kernel? Not mine:
  http://ttylinux.net/dloadBBN.html
 
  The Linux-targeted cross tool chain has an associated glibc
  and kernel interface; I build versions of those of my own
  preference to suit my ttylinux distribution. That is why
  I build my cross tool chain from sources with crosstool-ng.
  With this approach I have commonality to make ttylinux
  for mac-g4, beaglebone, i486, i686, x8_64 of the same versions
  of glibc and Linux kernel, each built with a crosstool-ng
  produced cross tool chain 

Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread Douglas Jerome

On 07/26/14 15:10, Lucas Tanure wrote:

Jerome,

Sorry I didn't understand what you want, or complain about that page.
Feel free to edit and add what you think is important.
I can only write about things I know, and understand. That tip about
Linaro toolchain was very good thanks, I will take a look.
The wiki is for anyone, from anyone. So add your way, so people can know of.


Whoa, I really don't mean to sound cross about anything.
For that page, my critique is: from the terseness of the
crosstool-ng part it lacks usefulness and I'm willing to
help.
My first name is Douglas, not Jerome.



Willian,

I feel the same way, I just want to build my kernel, boot and use. I'm
not a expert, I'm a newbie, so I need first a easier and faster way to
get where I want.
For me, what I know about crosstool-ng is that you can choose many
variables and build a perfect compiler for you, using uLibc, gLibc
what ever you need. And I don't see yet why In that case perhaps
crosstool-ng may be the way to go. . What I'm missing in this case ?
What crosstool-ng is so much better than a preconfigured gcc from
ubuntu servers ?


For what it's worth, from someone who uses crosstool-ng but not
a pre-built cross tool chain, I don't think it's fair to say
crosstool-ng is so much better in an open ended way.

When you build code for a Linux system the tool chain supplies
the glibc interface (header files and library files) which has
the Linux kernel system call interface; if you want some
particular version of those, then building your own cross-tool
chain with those versions can be so much better than using a
pre-built cross tool chain. If you use a pre-built cross tool
chain, what versions of glibc and Linuc kernel is your
cross-built code targeted to? I am being glibc-centric
here, I know.

Cheers.

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[beagleboard] Re: GPIO input not working

2014-07-26 Thread serge . nsk14


 P8.15,/* GPIO1_15 */


Hi,
While on the schematic GPIO1_15 is inside the bracket labeled Caution: 
Used On Board, actually it (P8.15) is not connected anywhere but to the 
processor pad. That is actually NOT used on board.
I verified this many times: no troubles with GPIO1_15.
I do not think that setting pinmux to 0x07 is a good idea. If you want to 
read the GPIO you need the respective receiver enabled. The 0x27 pinmux 
data is much better.
What else.. If you often want to see what the actual pinmux settings are, 
or what is the GPIO state, this might be handy:
http://www.academ.org/~sv/epc/pinmux.pdf

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Re: [beagleboard] Qt5 problem: windows have no title and borders

2014-07-26 Thread John Syn

From:  Artem Popov web.ty...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, July 25, 2014 at 9:39 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Qt5 problem: windows have no title and borders

 HW: Beaglebone Black
 Linux: RCN Kernel 3.8 with sgx modules and xenomai
 Qt version : qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.3.1
 
 Configure options: ./configure -release -force-debug-info -confirm-license
 -nomake tests -nomake examples -opensource -opengl es2 -device
 linux-beagleboard-g++ -device-option
 CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf- -prefix /usr/qt5 -no-largefile
 -no-accessibility  -no-openssl -no-pulseaudio -no-alsa -no-cups -no-pch -eglfs
 -directfb -linuxfb -no-xcb -make libs -I
 /home/tim/BB/archive/Graphics_SDK_5_01_01_01/include/OGLES2 -L
 /home/tim/BB/archive/Graphics_SDK_5_01_01_01/gfx_rel_es8.x -xplatform
 linux-beagleboard-g++ -skip webkit
 
 Configure result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857121/
 
 As result windows have no title bars and borders. I've tried to create simple
 app which shows message box and tried to use example from
 qtbase/widgets/mainwindows/application.
As you can see from the following link, xorg isnĀ¹t supported:

http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/RN_5_01_01_01#What_is_not_supported

Regards,
John
 
 
 Result:
 MessageBox: 
 http://beta.hstor.org/files/7d6/d46/83a/7d6d4683a187483a98bdd095c5e649a3.jpg
 mainwindow app: 
 http://beta.hstor.org/files/d8a/a6a/b34/d8aa6ab342e24ff29388c38344272de5.jpg
 
 I've tried different platforms (linuxfb, eglfs, minimal) and styles. Nothing
 helps.And only eglfs shows fullscreen app.
 Also, touchscreen works as Y coordinate is 3-5 mm lower, than it actually is.
 I should press touchscreen 3-5 mm under the button to press it.
 
 MessageBox and examples works good for Qt 4.8.
 
 How to fix this problems?
 
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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans
Everything being equal I think crosstool-ng is the way to go. There are a
few things I do not like about the Linaro toolchain, and the prepackaged
libc is the main one on my mind.

Personally, for various things, I prefer building things from *scratch*.
This is the side of me that also loves this concept of Gentoo. But the
practicalities of every day business almost always get in the way. Now, I
have a time investment spent learning about the Linaro toolchain. Which
admitedly is not a huge amount. Not like Debian versus Gentoo ( for me ),
where I've been using Debian since the mid 90's.




On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
wrote:

 On 07/26/14 15:10, Lucas Tanure wrote:

 Jerome,

 Sorry I didn't understand what you want, or complain about that page.
 Feel free to edit and add what you think is important.
 I can only write about things I know, and understand. That tip about
 Linaro toolchain was very good thanks, I will take a look.
 The wiki is for anyone, from anyone. So add your way, so people can know
 of.


 Whoa, I really don't mean to sound cross about anything.
 For that page, my critique is: from the terseness of the
 crosstool-ng part it lacks usefulness and I'm willing to
 help.
 My first name is Douglas, not Jerome.



 Willian,

 I feel the same way, I just want to build my kernel, boot and use. I'm
 not a expert, I'm a newbie, so I need first a easier and faster way to
 get where I want.
 For me, what I know about crosstool-ng is that you can choose many
 variables and build a perfect compiler for you, using uLibc, gLibc
 what ever you need. And I don't see yet why In that case perhaps
 crosstool-ng may be the way to go. . What I'm missing in this case ?
 What crosstool-ng is so much better than a preconfigured gcc from
 ubuntu servers ?


 For what it's worth, from someone who uses crosstool-ng but not
 a pre-built cross tool chain, I don't think it's fair to say
 crosstool-ng is so much better in an open ended way.

 When you build code for a Linux system the tool chain supplies
 the glibc interface (header files and library files) which has
 the Linux kernel system call interface; if you want some
 particular version of those, then building your own cross-tool
 chain with those versions can be so much better than using a
 pre-built cross tool chain. If you use a pre-built cross tool
 chain, what versions of glibc and Linuc kernel is your
 cross-built code targeted to? I am being glibc-centric
 here, I know.

 Cheers.


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Re: [beagleboard] U-Boot SPL fails when booting from DHCP/TFTP... Tries to enter USB Host mode?

2014-07-26 Thread John Syn

From:  Brendan Bleker bble...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, July 25, 2014 at 1:11 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] U-Boot SPL fails when booting from DHCP/TFTP...
Tries to enter USB Host mode?

 
 I'm looking for instructions/guides on getting the Beaglebone Black to load
 and run U-Boot from DHCP/TFTP (No SD and No eMMC).
 (http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Ubuntu_12.04_Set_Up_to_Network_Boot_a
 n_AM335x_Based_Platform)
Let me start out by asking; why do you want to load u-boot via DHCP/TFTP?
 
 Currently, I have the Beaglebone Black looking in the correct /tftpboot
 directory, it finds the u-boot spl file and loads it, but stops with the
 following error: 
 
 U-Boot SPL 2013.04-dirty (Jun 19 2013 - 09:57:14)
 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn)
 musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0
 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4
 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory
 USB Peripheral mode controller at 47401000 using PIO, IRQ 0
 musb-hdrc: ConfigData=0xde (UTMI-8, dyn FIFOs, HB-ISO Rx, HB-ISO Tx, SoftConn)
 musb-hdrc: MHDRC RTL version 2.0
 musb-hdrc: setup fifo_mode 4
 musb-hdrc: 28/31 max ep, 16384/16384 memory
 USB Host mode controller at 47401800 using PIO, IRQ 0
 ### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ###
 
 I'm using the latest Angstrom Beaglebone Black distribution, all I've done is
 strip the header from the MLO in order to create a U-Boot SPL file that the
 RBL will recognize.
 I'm guessing that I will need to do some customization of the U-Boot SPL in
 order to prevent it from going into USB Host mode.
  
 Since I haven't built a custom U-Boot, or Kernel before, I can only speculate
 on what I'm seeing.
 
 Any info or guidance in this would be much appreciated!
 Thanks!
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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread Robert Nelson
On Jul 26, 2014 6:33 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Everything being equal I think crosstool-ng is the way to go. There are a
few things I do not like about the Linaro toolchain, and the prepackaged
libc is the main one on my mind.

If you dig into linaro's build script for those binaries, it is actually
crosstool-ng.. Its just tied with a later ubunutu/Linaro specific libc.

It just works, is why I use it exclusively now. Some of us remember the
code soucery days when they'd magically break stuff between releases.
Thankfully Angstroms cross compiler was around back then. Eventually those
guys went to Linaro and fixed GCC.


 Personally, for various things, I prefer building things from *scratch*.
This is the side of me that also loves this concept of Gentoo. But the
practicalities of every day business almost always get in the way. Now, I
have a time investment spent learning about the Linaro toolchain. Which
admitedly is not a huge amount. Not like Debian versus Gentoo ( for me ),
where I've been using Debian since the mid 90's.




 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
wrote:

 On 07/26/14 15:10, Lucas Tanure wrote:

 Jerome,

 Sorry I didn't understand what you want, or complain about that page.
 Feel free to edit and add what you think is important.
 I can only write about things I know, and understand. That tip about
 Linaro toolchain was very good thanks, I will take a look.
 The wiki is for anyone, from anyone. So add your way, so people can
know of.


 Whoa, I really don't mean to sound cross about anything.
 For that page, my critique is: from the terseness of the
 crosstool-ng part it lacks usefulness and I'm willing to
 help.
 My first name is Douglas, not Jerome.



 Willian,

 I feel the same way, I just want to build my kernel, boot and use. I'm
 not a expert, I'm a newbie, so I need first a easier and faster way to
 get where I want.
 For me, what I know about crosstool-ng is that you can choose many
 variables and build a perfect compiler for you, using uLibc, gLibc
 what ever you need. And I don't see yet why In that case perhaps
 crosstool-ng may be the way to go. . What I'm missing in this case ?
 What crosstool-ng is so much better than a preconfigured gcc from
 ubuntu servers ?


 For what it's worth, from someone who uses crosstool-ng but not
 a pre-built cross tool chain, I don't think it's fair to say
 crosstool-ng is so much better in an open ended way.

 When you build code for a Linux system the tool chain supplies
 the glibc interface (header files and library files) which has
 the Linux kernel system call interface; if you want some
 particular version of those, then building your own cross-tool
 chain with those versions can be so much better than using a
 pre-built cross tool chain. If you use a pre-built cross tool
 chain, what versions of glibc and Linuc kernel is your
 cross-built code targeted to? I am being glibc-centric
 here, I know.

 Cheers.


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[beagleboard] Delivery of web camera image to Ustream

2014-07-26 Thread Kazz

Hi all

I am challenging delivery of webcamera image to ustream from Beagleboard-xm.
First I did on Atom machine with Ubuntu 14.04.

avconv -f video4linux2 -s 320x240x -r 5 -i /dev/video0 -pix_fmt yuv420p -r 
5 
-f flv rtmp://***ustream_url/ustream_key***

I could do.

Next I challenged on Beagleboard-xM with Ubuntu 14.04.
Then Delivery stoped at few seconds.

 avconv version 9.14-6:9.14-0ubuntu0.14.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2014 the 
Libav developers
   built on Jul 15 2014 14:14:21 with gcc 4.8 (Ubuntu/Linaro 
4.8.2-19ubuntu1)
 [video4linux2 @ 0x1326720] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be 
inaccurate
 Input #0, video4linux2, from '/dev/video0':
   Duration: N/A, start: 1716.381321, bitrate: 6144 kb/s
 Stream #0.0: Video: rawvideo, yuyv422, 320x240, 6144 kb/s, 1000k tbn, 
5 tbc
 Output #0, flv, to 
'rtmp://1.17868225.fme.ustream.tv/ustreamVideo/17868225/nVgsJjz3ctRafQWawGt5HNZA3v75R2kj':
   Metadata:
 encoder : Lavf54.20.4
 Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 320x240, q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 1k tbn, 
5 tbc
 Stream mapping:
   Stream #0:0 - #0:0 (rawvideo - flv)
 Press ctrl-c to stop encoding
 The v4l2 frame is 50560 bytes, but 153600 bytes are expected 311.7kbits/s
 /dev/video0: Invalid data found when processing input
 Failed to update header with correct duration.=8.80 bitrate= 306.5kbits/s
 [flv @ 0x13272a0] Failed to update header with correct filesize.
 frame=   44 fps=  4 q=2.5 Lsize= 329kB time=8.80 bitrate= 306.5kbits/s
 video:328kB audio:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.271874%

What is solution ?

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Re: [beagleboard] RobertCNelson Tree

2014-07-26 Thread William Hermans
Robert,

I use the Linaro toolchain for exactly the same reasons as you. Aside from
the fact that I follow your guide as closely as possible, and deviating
from that would cause more headaches than it is worth. All one has to do is
read all the half fast copied blog postings out there to realize this . . .
that lead to HALP ITS BROKED posts on these groups . . .heh.

As far as the crosstool-ng aspect. I just mean that you get eaxctly what
*you* want when you build your own toolchain. On the other side of that
coin. For me personally, I probably do not know everything I need to know
to build a proper toolchain for the BBB. After that, failed attempts would
get old fast, or worse yet seemingly good attempts that could turn tragic
in a hurry.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
wrote:


 On Jul 26, 2014 6:33 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Everything being equal I think crosstool-ng is the way to go. There are
 a few things I do not like about the Linaro toolchain, and the prepackaged
 libc is the main one on my mind.

 If you dig into linaro's build script for those binaries, it is actually
 crosstool-ng.. Its just tied with a later ubunutu/Linaro specific libc.

 It just works, is why I use it exclusively now. Some of us remember the
 code soucery days when they'd magically break stuff between releases.
 Thankfully Angstroms cross compiler was around back then. Eventually those
 guys went to Linaro and fixed GCC.

 
  Personally, for various things, I prefer building things from *scratch*.
 This is the side of me that also loves this concept of Gentoo. But the
 practicalities of every day business almost always get in the way. Now, I
 have a time investment spent learning about the Linaro toolchain. Which
 admitedly is not a huge amount. Not like Debian versus Gentoo ( for me ),
 where I've been using Debian since the mid 90's.
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Douglas Jerome doug...@ttylinux.org
 wrote:
 
  On 07/26/14 15:10, Lucas Tanure wrote:
 
  Jerome,
 
  Sorry I didn't understand what you want, or complain about that page.
  Feel free to edit and add what you think is important.
  I can only write about things I know, and understand. That tip about
  Linaro toolchain was very good thanks, I will take a look.
  The wiki is for anyone, from anyone. So add your way, so people can
 know of.
 
 
  Whoa, I really don't mean to sound cross about anything.
  For that page, my critique is: from the terseness of the
  crosstool-ng part it lacks usefulness and I'm willing to
  help.
  My first name is Douglas, not Jerome.
 
 
 
  Willian,
 
  I feel the same way, I just want to build my kernel, boot and use. I'm
  not a expert, I'm a newbie, so I need first a easier and faster way to
  get where I want.
  For me, what I know about crosstool-ng is that you can choose many
  variables and build a perfect compiler for you, using uLibc, gLibc
  what ever you need. And I don't see yet why In that case perhaps
  crosstool-ng may be the way to go. . What I'm missing in this case ?
  What crosstool-ng is so much better than a preconfigured gcc from
  ubuntu servers ?
 
 
  For what it's worth, from someone who uses crosstool-ng but not
  a pre-built cross tool chain, I don't think it's fair to say
  crosstool-ng is so much better in an open ended way.
 
  When you build code for a Linux system the tool chain supplies
  the glibc interface (header files and library files) which has
  the Linux kernel system call interface; if you want some
  particular version of those, then building your own cross-tool
  chain with those versions can be so much better than using a
  pre-built cross tool chain. If you use a pre-built cross tool
  chain, what versions of glibc and Linuc kernel is your
  cross-built code targeted to? I am being glibc-centric
  here, I know.
 
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