[beagleboard] BlackLib on BeagleBone Black with Debian 8 does not work

2016-08-21 Thread ivbsd1
Hi,

I'm trying to operate BlackLib 3.0 on BeagleBone Black with Debian 8 image 
recommended by BeagleBone.org 
(from here: https://beagleboard.org/latest-images)

BlackLib seems not working with Debian 8. Does someone succeeded to make it 
working ?
As I know - it works perfectly with Debian 7.



Thanks

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[beagleboard] SPI_LSB_FIRST mode - if supported by BBB SPI

2016-09-12 Thread ivbsd1
Hi,

I'm trying to operate second SPI controller on BealeBone Black 
in SPI_LSB_FIRST mode
and constantly receive error "Invalid argument".

Does SPI_LSB_FIRST mode supported by SPI on BBB ?

Thanks,
ivbsd1

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[beagleboard] Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-01 Thread ivbsd1
Hi,

I'm new in development for BeagleBone Black.
Can you, please, recommend good cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows 
?

Thanks in advance

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[beagleboard] Re: Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-01 Thread ivbsd1
BBB runs Debian 7
For C++/C

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 3:42:55 PM UTC+3, Graham wrote:
>
> For which programming language(s) ?
>
> Which OS will you be running on the BBB? 
>
> --- Graham
>
>  
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-01 Thread ivbsd1
William, Graham - thanks a lot for valuable inputs.

I'm sure that under Linux it will run better. But environment should comply 
with some existed IT infrastructure .

So, William, I'll try your suggestion.


On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 8:55:02 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>
> Additionally. If you *can* live with using Linux. The default toolchains 
> supplied with Ubuntu 14.04 work very well too. D.R. Derek Molloy has 
> youtube videos on setup under Ubuntu, for a suitable toolchain and using 
> Eclipse - I think.
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, William Hermans  > wrote:
>
>> Just remember, you only want a tool chain that is abihf ( ARMv7 ) 
>> compatible.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, William Hermans > > wrote:
>>
>>> Since no one addressed the question, but instead talked arounf it . . .
>>>
>>> The only known( at least to me ) toolchain for the armhf software ABI, 
>>> and WIndows binaries is offered by Linaro.
>>>
>>> https://releases.linaro.org/14.11/components/toolchain/binaries/
>>>
>>> Here is you read the release notes text it says which are Windows 
>>> binaries. But since mingw is not required for Linux, you can pretty much 
>>> rest assured that any toolchain with "mingw" in the file name is in 
>>> reference to Windows binaries.
>>>
>>> As for IDE's . . . The two most flexible for setting up with a Custom 
>>> toolchain would be Code::Blocks, and Eclipse. Personally, I prefer 
>>> Code::Blocks because it's run as a native executable versus Eclipes' JRE 
>>> requirement . . . 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Graham Haddock >> > wrote:
>>>
 My personal favorite C/C++ IDE is Eclipse, with the C/C++ Development 
 and Remote System Explorer (RSE) environment packages.  I use the GCC 
 cross 
 compiler.

 A reference on how to set this up, although needing some updating, due 
 to newer current versions of Debian and Eclipse, is Derek Molloy's book, 
 website, and youtube videos.

 Since the target system is Linux/Debian, things will run a lot smoother 
 if you run Eclipse and the appropriate GCC cross compiler under Linux, 
 rather than Windows. I use either a separate computer running Ubuntu, or 
 Ubuntu running on a VM under Windows.


 Setting up Eclipse on the Beaglebone for C++ Development ...

 http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/
 by Derek Molloy

 Google: Eclipse, beaglebone, RSE, GCC ARM Crosscompiler

 --- Graham

 =

> For C++/C
>
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 3:42:55 PM UTC+3, Graham wrote:
>>
>> For which programming language(s) ?
>>
>> Which OS will you be running on the BBB? 
>>
>> --- Graham
>>
>>  
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-01 Thread ivbsd1
William, 

Thanks for input about using BBB itself.
But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to grow 
very quickly. 
Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code amount 
?

And which IDE do you recommend to work  natively on BBB? The same as you 
mentioned above ?



On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:39:55 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>
> Additionally, if you're worried about writing too much to flash media ( 
> emmc or sdcard ), just create a 128M ramdisk, and compile your projects in 
> that. You can also setup an NFS share, LInked with a Samba share so you can 
> edit these files easily from within Windows . . . there are a ton of 
> options out there . . .
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, William Hermans  > wrote:
>
>> ivbsd1,
>>
>> I would like to point out that I use Windows on a daily basis, and have 
>> since the 90's. However I will also mention that I consider Windows a 
>> really bad choice of a development platform for this hardware.
>>
>> For really simple applications, or probably even reasonably complex 
>> applications, cross compiling form Windows will work fine.
>>
>> However, you will very soon start noticing problems. How do you get Linux 
>> API headers into Windows? How do you compile anything complex on Windows, 
>> like Qt, Nodejs, wireshark, or better still a Linux kernel, or kernel 
>> module ? The list goes on, and on and . . .
>>
>> So, I think it would behoove you, or anyone to figure out how to get a 
>> Linux system for a development system. Here, I would like to point out that 
>> if you have a beaglebone, you already have one. So no need to cross 
>> compile, just compile natively on the Beaglebone. This will work fine for 
>> 99% of projects out there.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, ivbsd1 > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William, Graham - thanks a lot for valuable inputs.
>>>
>>> I'm sure that under Linux it will run better. But environment should 
>>> comply with some existed IT infrastructure .
>>>
>>> So, William, I'll try your suggestion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 8:55:02 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Additionally. If you *can* live with using Linux. The default 
>>>> toolchains supplied with Ubuntu 14.04 work very well too. D.R. Derek 
>>>> Molloy 
>>>> has youtube videos on setup under Ubuntu, for a suitable toolchain and 
>>>> using Eclipse - I think.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, William Hermans  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just remember, you only want a tool chain that is abihf ( ARMv7 ) 
>>>>> compatible.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, William Hermans  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since no one addressed the question, but instead talked arounf it . . 
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only known( at least to me ) toolchain for the armhf software 
>>>>>> ABI, and WIndows binaries is offered by Linaro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://releases.linaro.org/14.11/components/toolchain/binaries/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is you read the release notes text it says which are Windows 
>>>>>> binaries. But since mingw is not required for Linux, you can pretty much 
>>>>>> rest assured that any toolchain with "mingw" in the file name is in 
>>>>>> reference to Windows binaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for IDE's . . . The two most flexible for setting up with a Custom 
>>>>>> toolchain would be Code::Blocks, and Eclipse. Personally, I prefer 
>>>>>> Code::Blocks because it's run as a native executable versus Eclipes' JRE 
>>>>>> requirement . . . 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Graham Haddock >>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My personal favorite C/C++ IDE is Eclipse, with the C/C++ 
>>>>>>> Development and Remote System Explorer (RSE) environment packages.  I 
>>>>>>> use 
>>>>>>> the GCC cross compiler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A reference on how to set this up, although needing some updating, 
>>>>>>> due to newer current versions of Debian and Eclipse, is Derek Molloy's 
>

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-02 Thread ivbsd1
Thanks for info.
I understand the mode of your work with BBB.


On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 10:06:48 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>
>
> $ gcc somefile.c -o somefile -Wall/* and whatever other options I want 
>> and need */
>> $ chmod +x ./somefile/* File needs to be given executable 
>> permissions */
>> $ ./somefile/* Then the application does its 
>> thing . . .*/
>>
>
> For larger projects though when using multiple C / header files. Using 
> Make is probably a good idea.
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 12:02 PM, William Hermans  > wrote:
>
>> > William, 
>> >
>> > Thanks for input about using BBB itself.
>> > But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to 
>> grow very quickly. 
>>
>> What software tends to grow quickly ? You really need to think about what 
>> you're doing. But if you're writing all the code yourself, and maybe using 
>> some form of a Linux libc, and / or standard Linux API calls. You program 
>> is not going to be so large the Beaglebone can't compile it.
>>
>> Give me an example of what you plan on doing though . . .
>>
>> > Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code 
>> amount ?
>> >
>> It depends, see above.
>>
>> > And which IDE do you recommend to work  natively on BBB? The same as 
>> you mentioned above ?
>>
>> I recommend no IDE. I use gcc from the cmd line, and I use several 
>> different text editors to write my code. My setup is a little different 
>> than many. I have an NFS server that shares a directory to the Beaglebone. 
>> On the beaglebone this is where I compile my code, if not in a ramdisk. The 
>> NFS server also run Samba, and exports this same directory out so I can 
>> connect to it from Windows. Then, I use Visual Studio Code, Sublime text 3, 
>> or whatever text editor I like in Windows to write code ( live ) on / for 
>> the Beaglebone. Then it's just a matter of . . .
>>
>> $ gcc somefile.c -o somefile -Wall/* and whatever other options I 
>> want and need */
>> $ chmod +x ./somefile/* File needs to be given executable 
>> permissions */
>> $ ./somefile/* Then the application does its 
>> thing . . .*/
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:46 AM, ivbsd1 > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William, 
>>>
>>> Thanks for input about using BBB itself.
>>> But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to 
>>> grow very quickly. 
>>> Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code 
>>> amount ?
>>>
>>> And which IDE do you recommend to work  natively on BBB? The same as you 
>>> mentioned above ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:39:55 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, if you're worried about writing too much to flash media ( 
>>>> emmc or sdcard ), just create a 128M ramdisk, and compile your projects in 
>>>> that. You can also setup an NFS share, LInked with a Samba share so you 
>>>> can 
>>>> edit these files easily from within Windows . . . there are a ton of 
>>>> options out there . . .
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, William Hermans  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ivbsd1,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to point out that I use Windows on a daily basis, and 
>>>>> have since the 90's. However I will also mention that I consider Windows 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> really bad choice of a development platform for this hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> For really simple applications, or probably even reasonably complex 
>>>>> applications, cross compiling form Windows will work fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, you will very soon start noticing problems. How do you get 
>>>>> Linux API headers into Windows? How do you compile anything complex on 
>>>>> Windows, like Qt, Nodejs, wireshark, or better still a Linux kernel, or 
>>>>> kernel module ? The list goes on, and on and . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I think it would behoove you, or anyone to figure out how to get a 
>>>>> Linux system for a development system. Here, I would like to point out 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> if you have a beaglebone, you already have one. S

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-03 Thread ivbsd1
Hi William,

I'd like to take your advice and use native compilation on BBB but try to 
use some IDE anyway.
As I know, Visual Studio can be such IDE. VS can automatically copy and 
remote build your sources and launch your application with the debugger on 
target.
Are you familiar with non-commercial tool which is able to do this ?

Thanks




On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 10:03:07 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>
> > William, 
> >
> > Thanks for input about using BBB itself.
> > But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to 
> grow very quickly. 
>
> What software tends to grow quickly ? You really need to think about what 
> you're doing. But if you're writing all the code yourself, and maybe using 
> some form of a Linux libc, and / or standard Linux API calls. You program 
> is not going to be so large the Beaglebone can't compile it.
>
> Give me an example of what you plan on doing though . . .
>
> > Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code 
> amount ?
> >
> It depends, see above.
>
> > And which IDE do you recommend to work  natively on BBB? The same as you 
> mentioned above ?
>
> I recommend no IDE. I use gcc from the cmd line, and I use several 
> different text editors to write my code. My setup is a little different 
> than many. I have an NFS server that shares a directory to the Beaglebone. 
> On the beaglebone this is where I compile my code, if not in a ramdisk. The 
> NFS server also run Samba, and exports this same directory out so I can 
> connect to it from Windows. Then, I use Visual Studio Code, Sublime text 3, 
> or whatever text editor I like in Windows to write code ( live ) on / for 
> the Beaglebone. Then it's just a matter of . . .
>
> $ gcc somefile.c -o somefile -Wall/* and whatever other options I want 
> and need */
> $ chmod +x ./somefile/* File needs to be given executable 
> permissions */
> $ ./somefile/* Then the application does its thing 
> . . .*/
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:46 AM, ivbsd1 > 
> wrote:
>
>> William, 
>>
>> Thanks for input about using BBB itself.
>> But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to 
>> grow very quickly. 
>> Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code 
>> amount ?
>>
>> And which IDE do you recommend to work  natively on BBB? The same as you 
>> mentioned above ?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:39:55 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>>>
>>> Additionally, if you're worried about writing too much to flash media ( 
>>> emmc or sdcard ), just create a 128M ramdisk, and compile your projects in 
>>> that. You can also setup an NFS share, LInked with a Samba share so you can 
>>> edit these files easily from within Windows . . . there are a ton of 
>>> options out there . . .
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, William Hermans  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ivbsd1,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to point out that I use Windows on a daily basis, and have 
>>>> since the 90's. However I will also mention that I consider Windows a 
>>>> really bad choice of a development platform for this hardware.
>>>>
>>>> For really simple applications, or probably even reasonably complex 
>>>> applications, cross compiling form Windows will work fine.
>>>>
>>>> However, you will very soon start noticing problems. How do you get 
>>>> Linux API headers into Windows? How do you compile anything complex on 
>>>> Windows, like Qt, Nodejs, wireshark, or better still a Linux kernel, or 
>>>> kernel module ? The list goes on, and on and . . .
>>>>
>>>> So, I think it would behoove you, or anyone to figure out how to get a 
>>>> Linux system for a development system. Here, I would like to point out 
>>>> that 
>>>> if you have a beaglebone, you already have one. So no need to cross 
>>>> compile, just compile natively on the Beaglebone. This will work fine for 
>>>> 99% of projects out there.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, ivbsd1  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William, Graham - thanks a lot for valuable inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that under Linux it will run better. But environment should 
>>>>> comply with some existed IT infrastructure .
>>>>>
>>>>> So, William, I'll 

[beagleboard] Re: Looking for recommendation for BBB cross-compile toolchain and IDE for Windows

2016-07-03 Thread ivbsd1
Guys, thanks for all for excellent inputs.

Today I succeeded to set environment of Visual Studio with Visual GDB for 
native compilation on BBB. For now,  it answers my needs.

TJF, thanks for idea about Geany. I'll check this because I have to move to 
open source IDE when team will be bigger.

William, you ask philosophical questions about IDE. I don't intend to 
discuss this. 
Everyone has own requirements and what is good for one case may be bad for 
other.



On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 11:50:35 AM UTC+3, ivbsd1 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new in development for BeagleBone Black.
> Can you, please, recommend good cross-compile toolchain and IDE for 
> Windows ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

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[beagleboard] Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-25 Thread ivbsd1
Hi,

I'm working on some embedded device which uses BBB with Debian as main 
control processor.
Device should be controlled via Web interface. Control  includes simple 
configuration
(few tens parameters), collection of logs, statuses, alarms and simple 
statistics.

I'll be glad to receive recommendation which web framework to use. I see in 
Internet
many full-blown and heavy web frameworks which are not used for Web control 
application.
I need something light and easy to learn and use.

Your help will be very much appreciated.

ivbsd1


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[beagleboard] Re: Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Hi TJF,

Thanks a lot for suggestions. But, if possible, can you make it more clear ?
If possible, can you give me a reference to project of such type ?

Best regards

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:00:41 PM UTC+3, ivbsd1 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on some embedded device which uses BBB with Debian as main 
> control processor.
> Device should be controlled via Web interface. Control  includes simple 
> configuration
> (few tens parameters), collection of logs, statuses, alarms and simple 
> statistics.
>
> I'll be glad to receive recommendation which web framework to use. I see 
> in Internet
> many full-blown and heavy web frameworks which are not used for Web 
> control application.
> I need something light and easy to learn and use.
>
> Your help will be very much appreciated.
>
> ivbsd1
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Hi Chad,

Thanks a lot for input.

I read carefully this book and I don't find answer to my questions.
It talks about very basic things. My question was about tools for 
professional application.

Best regards

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 7:17:55 PM UTC+3, cmbaker3 wrote:
>
> Check out the cookbook recipes @ http://beagleboard.org/cookbook
>
> The cookbook is available @ 
> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920033899.do
> " Chapter 6: Internet of Things" addresses your questions.
>
> Chad
>
> On 7/25/16 3:00 PM, ivbsd1 wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I'm working on some embedded device which uses BBB with Debian as main 
> control processor.
> Device should be controlled via Web interface. Control  includes simple 
> configuration
> (few tens parameters), collection of logs, statuses, alarms and simple 
> statistics.
>
> I'll be glad to receive recommendation which web framework to use. I see 
> in Internet
> many full-blown and heavy web frameworks which are not used for Web 
> control application.
> I need something light and easy to learn and use.
>
> Your help will be very much appreciated.
>
> ivbsd1
>
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[beagleboard] Re: Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Hi TJF,

Thanks a lot for suggestions. But, if possible, can you make it more clear ?
If possible, can you give me a reference to project of such type ?

Best regards

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:59:58 PM UTC+3, TJF wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> You don't need any web framework. Write a simple GTK application and use 
> the Broadway backend to run the GUI in any HTML-5 browser window.
>
> BR
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[beagleboard] Re: Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Hi TJK,

Maybe I did not clarify that but I'm talking about embedded device with 
Linux,
which* does not contain gnome* or any other windows manager.
Regards,

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:05:53 PM UTC+3, ivbsd1 wrote:
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> Hi TJF,
>
> Thanks a lot for suggestions. But, if possible, can you make it more clear 
> ?
> If possible, can you give me a reference to project of such type ?
>
> Best regards
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:59:58 PM UTC+3, TJF wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> You don't need any web framework. Write a simple GTK application and use 
>> the Broadway backend to run the GUI in any HTML-5 browser window.
>>
>> BR
>>
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Re: [beagleboard] Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Guys, thank for inputs.

john3909, I don't need 100 sessions .
Application is device control. One session is enough :-)

TJF, sounds promising. I have to check if GDK and Broadway already exists 
for BeagleBone. 
Does it behave "natural" ? Not "biased" by browser ?


On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:58:59 PM UTC+3, john3909 wrote:
>
> The downside to this solution is that it doesn’t scale very well. Using 
> Nodejs and Angularjs, you can support 100s of simultaneous sessions on the 
> BBB.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:49 PM, TJF > 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016 19:05:53 UTC+2 schrieb ivbsd1:
>>
>> Hi TJF,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for suggestions. But, if possible, can you make it more 
>> clear ?
>> If possible, can you give me a reference to project of such type ?
>>
>
> Broadway is a GDK (= sub-layer of GTK) backend, which directs the 
> input/output via net sockets to a browser window. Just search the net for 
> "GTK Broadway" for details.
>
> There're no special references, since each and every GTK application 
> compiling against GTK-3.2 or later can run in a Browser window.
>
> Maybe I did not clarify that but I'm talking about embedded device with 
>> Linux,
>> which* does not contain gnome* or any other windows manager
>
>
> AFAIR it needs an X11 server, but no windows manager nor GNOME.
>
> BR 
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Re: [beagleboard] Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Still, I do not fully understand. And sorry for stupid questions :-(

Can I develop on Windows or Linux host,  or it must be on BBB? But BBB does 
not have graphical device...


On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:20:29 PM UTC+3, TJF wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016 22:05:35 UTC+2 schrieb ivbsd1:
>>
>> TJF, sounds promising. I have to check if GDK and Broadway already exists 
>> for BeagleBone. 
>> Does it behave "natural" ? Not "biased" by browser ?
>>
>
> It needs GDK version >3.2, AFAIR. It should be default on Debian 8.
>
> There're limitations regarding some keyboard shortcuts, which are catched 
> by the browser and therefor cannot be used in the application. And the 
> right mouse button isn't supported on touch screen devices.
>
> BR
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
TJF, thanks a lot.

I'll try to take this approach.
And I really appreciate your help :-)



On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:47:04 AM UTC+3, TJF wrote:
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>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2016 07:11:24 UTC+2 schrieb William Hermans:
>>
>> Additionally you may wish to start reading about, and understanding what 
>> a "web appliance" *is*.
>>
>
> Didn't you read the initial post? This isn't the issue here. The Question 
> is
>
> Device should be controlled via Web interface. Control  includes simple 
>> configuration
>> (few tens parameters), collection of logs, statuses, alarms and simple 
>> statistics.
>>
>
>
> @ivbsd1
>
> Can I develop on Windows or Linux host,  or it must be on BBB? But BBB 
>> does not have graphical device...
>
>
> You develop a normal GTK application, on any host/OS. In order to run it 
> as a web interface, compile on BBB, start the broadwayd and set environ 
> variable GDK_BACKEND=broadway before starting the application. The 
> application then doesn't use the (nor need a) local screen/keyboard. 
> Instead it waits for a web connection to port 8080. Once you open a browser 
> window on that port, this window is used as remote screen/keyboard for the 
> GTK application.
>
> BR
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
BTW - do you know if something similar to Broadway exists for QT ?

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 9:10:17 AM UTC+3, ivbsd1 wrote:
>
> TJF, thanks a lot.
>
> I'll try to take this approach.
> And I really appreciate your help :-)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:47:04 AM UTC+3, TJF wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2016 07:11:24 UTC+2 schrieb William Hermans:
>>>
>>> Additionally you may wish to start reading about, and understanding what 
>>> a "web appliance" *is*.
>>>
>>
>> Didn't you read the initial post? This isn't the issue here. The Question 
>> is
>>
>> Device should be controlled via Web interface. Control  includes simple 
>>> configuration
>>> (few tens parameters), collection of logs, statuses, alarms and simple 
>>> statistics.
>>>
>>
>>
>> @ivbsd1
>>
>> Can I develop on Windows or Linux host,  or it must be on BBB? But BBB 
>>> does not have graphical device...
>>
>>
>> You develop a normal GTK application, on any host/OS. In order to run it 
>> as a web interface, compile on BBB, start the broadwayd and set environ 
>> variable GDK_BACKEND=broadway before starting the application. The 
>> application then doesn't use the (nor need a) local screen/keyboard. 
>> Instead it waits for a web connection to port 8080. Once you open a browser 
>> window on that port, this window is used as remote screen/keyboard for the 
>> GTK application.
>>
>> BR
>>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Web control for BBB based device

2016-07-26 Thread ivbsd1
Thanks for the help - but this is not what I asked :-(.


On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 9:37:20 AM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote:
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Qt+web+server
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:20 PM, ivbsd1 > 
> wrote:
>
>> BTW - do you know if something similar to Broadway exists for QT ?
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 9:10:17 AM UTC+3, ivbsd1 wrote:
>>>
>>> TJF, thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> I'll try to take this approach.
>>> And I really appreciate your help :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:47:04 AM UTC+3, TJF wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2016 07:11:24 UTC+2 schrieb William Hermans:
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally you may wish to start reading about, and understanding 
>>>>> what a "web appliance" *is*.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you read the initial post? This isn't the issue here. The 
>>>> Question is
>>>>
>>>> Device should be controlled via Web interface. Control  includes simple 
>>>>> configuration
>>>>> (few tens parameters), collection of logs, statuses, alarms and simple 
>>>>> statistics.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @ivbsd1
>>>>
>>>> Can I develop on Windows or Linux host,  or it must be on BBB? But BBB 
>>>>> does not have graphical device...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You develop a normal GTK application, on any host/OS. In order to run 
>>>> it as a web interface, compile on BBB, start the broadwayd and set environ 
>>>> variable GDK_BACKEND=broadway before starting the application. The 
>>>> application then doesn't use the (nor need a) local screen/keyboard. 
>>>> Instead it waits for a web connection to port 8080. Once you open a 
>>>> browser 
>>>> window on that port, this window is used as remote screen/keyboard for the 
>>>> GTK application.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
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