Re: [Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg

Am 10.06.2006 um 05:49 schrieb Klaus D. Witzel:

Would some good soul please have a look a the plugintest.html page,  
which on my platform starts with the following text in the plugin  
window: Hello Plugin World!


This window was opened by some code in the file plugintest.sts,  
which was downloaded by your web browser. The browser started the  
Squeak Virtual Machine (C:\Program Files\Opera\Program\Plugins 
\Squeak.exe) with a default object image (C:\Program Files\Opera 
\Program\Plugins\SqueakPlugin.image).


Since you are reading this I guess all is okay then ...

Click FIND in the Navigator bar below to load some example  
projects. You can get a larger view by clicking Escape Browser.


my observations:

1) there is no Navigation bar (so no escape from the browser)
2) the heigth of the plugin is insufficient for reaching all items  
of the world menu (i.e. the desktop menu)


Since this is a test page, me too would like to see it work.

BTW the Fullwindow mode link works here and let me access the  
desktop menu from the world menu.



This test page assumes you actually use Squeakland's  
SqueakPlugin.image. That image has the golden navigator flap  
enabled by default. The code that opens the workspace is in the file  
plugintest.sts, it could be made more intelligent to test for enabled  
flaps. However, I can't update that website easily anymore.


Using the Squeakland image, the world menu fits on the screen for me.  
If it does not in your image, you could use Alt-Drag to move it.


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Re: [Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-10 Thread Klaus D. Witzel

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:04:48 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:


Am 10.06.2006 um 05:49 schrieb Klaus D. Witzel:

Would some good soul please have a look a the plugintest.html page,  
which on my platform starts with the following text in the plugin  
window: Hello Plugin World!


This window was opened by some code in the file plugintest.sts, which  
was downloaded by your web browser. The browser started the Squeak  
Virtual Machine (C:\Program Files\Opera\Program\Plugins\Squeak.exe)  
with a default object image (C:\Program Files\Opera 
\Program\Plugins\SqueakPlugin.image).


Since you are reading this I guess all is okay then ...

Click FIND in the Navigator bar below to load some example projects.  
You can get a larger view by clicking Escape Browser.


my observations:

1) there is no Navigation bar (so no escape from the browser)
2) the heigth of the plugin is insufficient for reaching all items of  
the world menu (i.e. the desktop menu)


Since this is a test page, me too would like to see it work.

BTW the Fullwindow mode link works here and let me access the desktop  
menu from the world menu.



This test page assumes you actually use Squeakland's SqueakPlugin.image.  
That image has the golden navigator flap enabled by default.


I believe that is indeed the case, it says 'Squeakland 3.8-05 of 1  
September 2005'. I use it for the Petri net demo

- http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Teaching/CP/PetriNets/

The code that opens the workspace is in the file plugintest.sts, it  
could be made more intelligent to test for enabled flaps. However, I  
can't update that website easily anymore.


Thank you anyways for taking care.


Using the Squeakland image, the world menu fits on the screen for me.


Not that I did expect the following but, enlarging the Opera web page to  
150% did the job, the menu now fits :)



If it does not in your image, you could use Alt-Drag to move it.


Tried it but that stalls the VM (no reaction to mouse or keyboard) and one  
has to reload the web page.



- Bert -


Thanks again.

/Klaus





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Re: [Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg


Am 10.06.2006 um 11:29 schrieb Klaus D. Witzel:
This test page assumes you actually use Squeakland's  
SqueakPlugin.image. That image has the golden navigator flap  
enabled by default.


I believe that is indeed the case, it says 'Squeakland 3.8-05 of 1  
September 2005'. I use it for the Petri net demo

- http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Teaching/CP/PetriNets/


Using the Squeakland image, the world menu fits on the screen for me.


Not that I did expect the following but, enlarging the Opera web  
page to 150% did the job, the menu now fits :)


I suspect that you ran that image manually and saved it  
(accidentally) with some non-default preferences.


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Re: [Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-10 Thread Klaus D. Witzel

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:45:37 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:


Am 10.06.2006 um 11:29 schrieb Klaus D. Witzel:
This test page assumes you actually use Squeakland's  
SqueakPlugin.image. That image has the golden navigator flap enabled  
by default.


I believe that is indeed the case, it says 'Squeakland 3.8-05 of 1  
September 2005'. I use it for the Petri net demo

- http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Teaching/CP/PetriNets/


Using the Squeakland image, the world menu fits on the screen for me.


Not that I did expect the following but, enlarging the Opera web page  
to 150% did the job, the menu now fits :)


I suspect that you ran that image manually and saved it (accidentally)  
with some non-default preferences.


No (did not run the image manually) and yes (saved the image from the  
Opera browser after install+update code from server) and no (non-default  
preferences): downloading a fresh copy from

 - http://squeakland.org/installers/SqueakPlugin.image.zip
this one says 'Squeakland 3.8-05 latest update: #481 Current Change Set:  
Unnamed1' and also has no golden navigator flap (but show shared flaps  
are enabled on the world menu, as before).


Perhaps a platform (Opera, WinXP) specific difference? Should there be any  
other files (besides SqueakPlugin.image) on startup?


NB: after successfully doing an update code from server on the fresh  
copy, when saving the resulting image, FileDirectory startUp does  
DosFileDirectory assureDirectory: 'C:\My Squeak' which raises a debugger  
but, the directory exists (and is populated) and on the next start (browse  
page refresh), #systemInformationString still says update: #481. Saved  
SqueakDebug.log if that is of interest.


/Klaus


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Re: [Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-10 Thread Brad Fuller
Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:45:37 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

 Am 10.06.2006 um 11:29 schrieb Klaus D. Witzel:
 This test page assumes you actually use Squeakland's
 SqueakPlugin.image. That image has the golden navigator flap
 enabled by default.

 I believe that is indeed the case, it says 'Squeakland 3.8-05 of 1
 September 2005'. I use it for the Petri net demo
 - http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Teaching/CP/PetriNets/

 Using the Squeakland image, the world menu fits on the screen for me.

 Not that I did expect the following but, enlarging the Opera web
 page to 150% did the job, the menu now fits :)

 I suspect that you ran that image manually and saved it
 (accidentally) with some non-default preferences.

 No (did not run the image manually) and yes (saved the image from the
 Opera browser after install+update code from server) and no
 (non-default preferences): downloading a fresh copy from
  - http://squeakland.org/installers/SqueakPlugin.image.zip
 this one says 'Squeakland 3.8-05 latest update: #481 Current Change
 Set: Unnamed1' and also has no golden navigator flap (but show
 shared flaps are enabled on the world menu, as before).

 Perhaps a platform (Opera, WinXP) specific difference? Should there be
 any other files (besides SqueakPlugin.image) on startup?
On Fedora Core 5, Firefox (v1.5.0.3) the Petri project works fine, and
the plugin test loads and shows the text dialog, but no navigator panel.
Other than the navigator panel not appearing, everything else seems fine.

Opera (Version 9.00 Beta 2): both the plugin test and the Petri image do
not load. I get a blue rectangle, the hourglass and (in the Petri
project) the squeakland Loading image. But that's it.. kinda stops
after that. (I stopped using Opera V8 because V9 worked better. )


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[Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-09 Thread Klaus D. Witzel

Hi Mark,

on Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:40:09 +0200, you wrote:


Hi,

Is there a trick to accessing Squeak projects from a Web page?

I built a Web page and linked to a project I put on my Web server which
is hosted by a third party ISP.

Instead of opening the project when the link is clicked the Windows
download dialog box displays.
I have to click the Open button to display
the project. It works but I'd rather have the project display without
the dialog box.


Since you mention Windows[tm], they attempt to protect you from opening
unknown content type from the internet. Have a look at

-
http://www.google.com/search?q=explorer+option+disable+%22open+confirmation%22

the tipps on the non microsoft pages.


Any ideas?


Hope this helps.

/Klaus


Thanks in advance.

Mark


Mark McCarty
Technology Teacher
Winterhaven School
3830 SE 14th Ave.
Portland, OR  97202
503-916-6200


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[Newbies] Re: Accessing projects from a Web page

2006-06-09 Thread Klaus D. Witzel
Would some good soul please have a look a the plugintest.html page, which  
on my platform starts with the following text in the plugin window: Hello  
Plugin World!


This window was opened by some code in the file plugintest.sts, which was  
downloaded by your web browser. The browser started the Squeak Virtual  
Machine (C:\Program Files\Opera\Program\Plugins\Squeak.exe) with a default  
object image (C:\Program Files\Opera\Program\Plugins\SqueakPlugin.image).


Since you are reading this I guess all is okay then ...

Click FIND in the Navigator bar below to load some example projects. You  
can get a larger view by clicking Escape Browser.


my observations:

1) there is no Navigation bar (so no escape from the browser)
2) the heigth of the plugin is insufficient for reaching all items of the  
world menu (i.e. the desktop menu)


Since this is a test page, me too would like to see it work.

BTW the Fullwindow mode link works here and let me access the desktop menu  
from the world menu.


Thank you in advance.

/Klaus

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:40:52 +0200, Bob Courchaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hi, Mark!

It's not really clear below how you linked to a project.

Here's a test and an example of the HTML you use to access the Squeak
Plugin, which is what Squeak Projects need to run in a browser:

http://wwwisg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/plugintest.html

Hope that helps!

Bob

Mark McCarty wrote:

Hi,

Is there a trick to accessing Squeak projects from a Web page?

I built a Web page and linked to a project I put on my Web server which
is hosted by a third party ISP.

Instead of opening the project when the link is clicked the Windows
download dialog box displays. I have to click the Open button to display
the project. It works but I'd rather have the project display without
the dialog box.

Any ideas?



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