After "Beginning Perl"?

2003-09-01 Thread Trent Rigsbee
Hi! I've completed "Beginning Perl" by Simon Cozens. What do you recommend 
as my next book? I'd like to tackle "Networking Programming with Perl"  by 
Lincoln Stein or "Win32 Perl Scripting" by Roth but I'm not sure if I'm 
ready for these. Should I go for something like "Learning Perl" or 
"Programming Perl" before I learn sockets and Win32 or is it ok to go for 
it? Thanks!

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Re: After "Beginning Perl"?

2003-09-01 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Trent" == Trent Rigsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Trent> Hi! I've completed "Beginning Perl" by Simon Cozens. What do you
Trent> recommend as my next book? I'd like to tackle "Networking Programming
Trent> with Perl"  by Lincoln Stein or "Win32 Perl Scripting" by Roth but I'm
Trent> not sure if I'm ready for these. Should I go for something like
Trent> "Learning Perl" or "Programming Perl" before I learn sockets and Win32
Trent> or is it ok to go for it? Thanks!

Well, for the obvious reasons, I recommend Learning Perl followed by
Learning Perl Objects References and Modules.

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Re: After "Beginning Perl"?

2003-09-01 Thread David Wall
--On Monday, September 01, 2003 2:53 PM -0700 "Randal L. Schwartz" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Trent" == Trent Rigsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Trent> Hi! I've completed "Beginning Perl" by Simon Cozens. What do you
Trent> recommend as my next book? I'd like to tackle "Networking
Programming Trent> with Perl"  by Lincoln Stein or "Win32 Perl Scripting"
by Roth but I'm Trent> not sure if I'm ready for these. Should I go for
something like Trent> "Learning Perl" or "Programming Perl" before I
learn sockets and Win32 Trent> or is it ok to go for it? Thanks!
Well, for the obvious reasons, I recommend Learning Perl followed by
Learning Perl Objects References and Modules.
: -)
Even though you're obviously biased , it's still a good route.  I liked 
"Learning Perl Objects References and Modules" because it gave a systematic 
treatment of stuff I had picked up in bits and pieces.  I'd recommend LPORM 
because it has necessary knowledge for understanding the code in Stein's 
networking book.

"The Perl Cookbook" is another excellent resource for picking up useful 
techniques.

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Re: After "Beginning Perl"?

2003-09-02 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 10:00  PM, Trent Rigsbee wrote:

Hi! I've completed "Beginning Perl" by Simon Cozens. What do you 
recommend as my next book? I'd like to tackle "Networking Programming 
with Perl"  by Lincoln Stein or "Win32 Perl Scripting" by Roth but I'm 
not sure if I'm ready for these. Should I go for something like 
"Learning Perl" or "Programming Perl" before I learn sockets and Win32 
or is it ok to go for it? Thanks!
You've already got some solid suggestions about what books to read 
next, so I'll add a different sort of comment.  I'm not familiar with 
where exactly "Beginning Perl" leaves off, and I'm not familiar with 
"Win32 Perl Scripting".  I do know "Network Programming with Perl" 
pretty well though.

Stein's book is very good in my opinion and it guides you pretty well.  
It starts with the basics and builds up to the tricky stuff.  While it 
does use some objects in places, I don't even think you have to know 
too much about objects to understand what he's doing.  He describes all 
serious programs line by line anyway.  It's also very cross platform, 
so it'll work fine on Windows without reading extra books.  Given all 
of that, you might go ahead and jump right into it.

Only you can say how comfortable you feel with Perl at this point.  
What you intend to do with sockets could be a big factor too, depending 
on how complex it is.  In the end though, the only way to gain some 
serious programming skill is by programming.  Reading a hundred books 
alone will not teach you Perl, not that I have anything at all against 
Perl's very rich library.

So, if you feel like you're progressing well and you want to try some 
basic socket programs, I say give it a go.  You'll learn what you want 
and improve your Perl at the same time.  You already even know a great 
place to go get some help when you get stuck.  Good luck.

James

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Re: After "Beginning Perl"?

2003-09-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Trent" == Trent Rigsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Trent> Hi! I've completed "Beginning Perl" by Simon Cozens. What do you
Trent> recommend as my next book? I'd like to tackle "Networking Programming
Trent> with Perl"  by Lincoln Stein or "Win32 Perl Scripting" by Roth but I'm
Trent> not sure if I'm ready for these. Should I go for something like
Trent> "Learning Perl" or "Programming Perl" before I learn sockets and Win32
Trent> or is it ok to go for it? Thanks!

Another suggestion as a completely free resource is my 177+ columns
at:

http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/WebTechniques/
http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/UnixReview/
http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/

and soon my /PerlJournal/ archives will be up as well.  Woo hoo.

The column articles vary from "learning perl" level to "very advanced".
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