Good News!

2003-07-17 Thread Karen W.
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Good News!

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Protein % for puppy's diet

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Gelli Reverse Brag

2003-07-17 Thread P. Buickerood
Well friends, Gelli's 17th week of life has not been an
outstanding success from his family's point of view.  After four
puppy kindergarten classes he seems to have completely forgotten
SIT, Stand, Stay, come. When given his commands he looks at me
as if I were from the moon (and NOT made of cheese). Even with
treat in hand it takes some firm encouragement to get a
response. He just looks at me with a blank stare. Training
sessions have to be very short because his attention span seems
to have suddenly halved. Yesterday, Gelli successfully leaped
onto the bed and has determined that atop the bed is the best
place to be. Not good because getting off the bed also requires
a leap and we do not want to subject his shoulders to that kind
of stress. (Not to mention the challenges of sleeping with a BMD
puppy in the bed.) We are running out of puppy gates.
Today, Gelli decided to sample the other edge of the antique
killim he'd successfully remodelled a few weeks ago. This
afternoon he chewed off 6 inches of fringe in a scant 15
minutes. And he has chewed the squeakers out of two toys in two
days. Those new teeth are very effective - He's teething - lost
three teeth in the past six days. Maybe thats it. Or maybe now
that he has grown in size he is once again testing the
boundaries. Whatever the reasons we seem to be going through
some terrible two's. 

Add to his purchase price, the vet bills, training classes,
crate, two beds, leashes, bowls, toys, dry cleaning bills,
x-pen(that did not work at all), ruined carpet, three antique
rugs, ... This dog's debt is mounting up. Gelli says, "MA! You
are embarrassing me again! Think of all the good things I do!
After all, I go into that blasted crate w/o a fuss, and I
enthusiastically greet all sorts of strangers, I play with
strange puppies and dogs, and any new adventure you decide I
should have is okay by me. I put up with ear cleaning, toe nail
clipping, tooth brushing and any other indignity you might wish
to subject me to. I shower you with kisses and when I see you I
wag my tail so hard I fall down. And everybody thinks I'm so
cute. What's a few rugs here and there?!"  ARRRGH! (He's right
-- he is cute.)

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All Well at Longlease!

2003-07-17 Thread Jean Cheesman
Well, after all the build up of the horrific storms coming our way and
battening down the hatches!! They passed us by!!

Not a rumble of thunder, not a flash of lightning! Though we did have some
very fierce winds and torrential rain!!!

Great thing was waking up this morning and it was so fresh and clear! We had
wonderful walk in the woods this morning, all three dogs being very silly
and chasing around nonstop after a week of very Hot and Humid and seeking
out the cool spots.

Got a couple of pics which I will Upload next of Sim and Barney having a
tussle with a branch that came down, and Sunny mopping up the cherries that
were on the ground! They had a fun morning.

More good news here is that all three Berners were at the Vet earlier this
evening for routine shots and check-ups! Ros is particularly pleased with
Sunny after the recent scares with her back injury and the Spondylosis. Had
me run her up and down the riverbank a few times (hmmm, with the boys of
course!) She is running freely, heart and lungs OK!!! All three have a clean
bill of health!

So on a good note I am off to add two fun pics of my cool dogs today!
Getting hotter again tonight, we are back to Heatwave tomorrow!

All Love,

Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Longlease Gang

http://bernese.biz



RE: A great line

2003-07-17 Thread zanned
A dog version of the Star Thrower story...It makes a difference to
THAT one  :>)

Suzanne 
High Point NC

> [Original Message]
> From: Molly Bass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > Date: 7/17/2003 8:42:29 AM
> Subject: A great line
>
> This was sent to me today and I thought it was worth sharing.
> 
> >"...Saving just one pet won't change the world
> >...but, surely, the world will change for that one pet..."
> 
> 
> Molly
> Charlottesville, VA




Rescue Berners and Berner mixes

2003-07-17 Thread Brnrmom


In a message dated 7/17/2003 2:36:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


In the pic, he looks all berner to me, but is 
reported to be thin and may only mature at about 65 lbs.

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=1855455



Jill,
Wow! Sure looks like all Berner to me, too. Thanks for noticing this fellow. And the 
shelter called this dog an Border Collie?! Shelter workers are great people who mean 
well and do such wonderful things for abandoned dogs but really do not know breeds.

As far as an adult wt of 65 lbs, that is pretty close to my puppy mill/pet shop Berner 
boy Charm, and he has full AKC registration (won High in Trial at the 2003 national 
specialty w/ it!) seems that w/ as many BYB and puppy mills as are getting into 
the breed lately, we are going to be seeing a lot more rescue Berners that arent 
exactly perfect representations of the breed standard. 

As they say "to love one Berner is to love them all."   If you cuold probably ILP w/ 
the AKC  it as a Berner, then it IS one (Golden  Retriever Rescue's philosphy on  
shelter rescues.)

No Berners in shelters, period.

(read the last 2 lines of my signature closely...what has changed??)

Vilma Briggs (Kistner)
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT
Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT
U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT
Thirdtym's A Charm, CD
Hob Nob Clouds In My Coffee (puppy "Perc")
foster Bernerboy:"BERWYN BREW" soon going to a GREAT home
and as yet to be named foster Berner mix: One Very Lucky Boy



test

2003-07-17 Thread Ellen Lauber
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Ellen Lauber
Pitman Co.
Exton, Pa 



Hello,berner-l,how are you

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Re: Possible BMD rescue - IL

2003-07-17 Thread berner1

WOW, what a great friend! Can we help with the neutering costs? Donate to Aussie 
rescue for them? If it is a Berner, does the local club have funds available to 
reimburse them for the neuter, do they need to apply to the BMDCA for those funds?

Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA

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From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>A friend of mine who is in Aussie rescue called today trying to find
Berner Rescue people to help with what she is pretty sure is a BMD.
Her mother pulled him from an IL shelter and they sent a few emails to
Berner rescue contacts, but haven't heard back, yet.  He is being
neutered as I write 

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Pic of possible BMD rescue

2003-07-17 Thread J Evans
The possible BMD who is now in the hands of Aussie rescue can be
seen in the following pic.  In the pic, he ooks all berner to me, but is 
reported to be thin and may only mature at about 65 lbs.

 http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=1855455

Jill



Possible BMD rescue

2003-07-17 Thread J Evans
A friend of mine who is in Aussie rescue called today trying to find
Berner Rescue people to help with what she is pretty sure is a BMD.
Her mother pulled him from an IL shelter and they sent a few emails to
Berner rescue contacts, but haven't heard back, yet.  He is being
neutered as I write and if anyone involved in rescue can contact me,
I will put you in touch with the person who has him, or help in anyway I 
can to
make sure this dog finds a wonderful forever home.
She can get help get him to areas near IL.  The dog is going from Northern
IL to southern IL in the next few days.

Thanks.
Jill with Indie and Gabby


Re: Natural food supplements

2003-07-17 Thread Martha Hoverson
I couldn't say for sure that it is the Fresh Factors, but Molly used to 
suffer from chronic conjunctivitis and hasn't had a case for six months now, 
which is just about how long she has been on Fresh Factors.  She also had a 
terrible time with little red bumps on her tummy (not as dramatic as hot 
spots--the vet called it puppy acne and something else, too) last summer, 
and we haven't seen anything like as many this year (one versus a dozen or 
so).  As far as coat goes, she had an unexpectedly drastic haircut in May, 
so it's probably hard to judge her on that matter at this point!  Lots of 
Berner-L people gave positive feedback about Fresh Factors when I asked last 
winter; we were interested in it for the chondroitin, but I think the other 
ingredients have been helpful, too.

Martha Hoverson, Molly (Haircut?  Try Buzz cut!  But I am cool and 
comfortable.) and Sam (I like Fresh Factors, too!!!)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Maine





From: "Carol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Natural food supplements
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:19:24 -0700
Hi All,
 I have received a catalog from a company called Springtime, Inc. They 
sell
premium dog supplements, (their words) .The one I am interested in is 
called
Fresh Factors. Claims to help itchy skin, eye watering and redness. Holli
(my almost 6yr old) suffers from allergies. She is allergic to every thing
except humans and cats. I was wondering if anyone had used any of these
supplements and if they had good results.
Thanks for any input.
Carol, Holli and the wild child Annie
Fair Oaks, Ca

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Re: Natural food supplements

2003-07-17 Thread Molly Bass
Hi Carol,

I started using Fresh Factors back in April with the encouragement of a 
friend of mine who has used it for years and swears by it. As my dogs do 
not have allergies I cannot answer to that part of the question but the two 
dogs who blew coat and have been growing coat have got amazing coats. The 
20 month old has so much shine to her coat that it has an intense black 
color to it. People even compliment me on her coat and ash how I get it so 
glossy. Her mother's coat is coming back much quicker than I expected it to 
after her litter of pups in March. All my coats look great considering it 
is 100 degrees outside. I have always had decent coats for whatever coat 
the dog grows without hot spots and other skin problems, but I am noticing 
a particular sheen to them now that is above the sheen they have had. 
Whether it is Fresh Factors or the kelp, or a combination, I have no clue. 
But I am afraid to stop them now having seen how these coats have grown 
over the summer.

Molly and the gang
Charlottesville, VA


Natural food supplements

2003-07-17 Thread Carol
Hi All,
 I have received a catalog from a company called Springtime, Inc. They sell
premium dog supplements, (their words) .The one I am interested in is called
Fresh Factors. Claims to help itchy skin, eye watering and redness. Holli
(my almost 6yr old) suffers from allergies. She is allergic to every thing
except humans and cats. I was wondering if anyone had used any of these
supplements and if they had good results.
Thanks for any input.
Carol, Holli and the wild child Annie
Fair Oaks, Ca



two possible berner mixes?

2003-07-17 Thread jennifer970
I'm always looking at the pets listed in various shelters and came across
these two siblings who will be arriving in Massachusetts soon. The rescue
group has them listed as mother being a boxer, and the dad unknown, but
they're suggesting it was a St. Bernard. When I saw their markings in the
photos, they certainly looked like they were half berner to me (but I'm just
a novice owner).
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=1828910&adTarget=468petsgenera
 l&SessionID=3f149e1a12d20a40-app3&display=&preview=1&row=25

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=1856685&adTarget=468petsgenera
 l&SessionID=3f149e1a12d20a40-app3&display=&preview=1&row=25

I thought about trying to adopt one of them ourselves, but I'm afraid the
timing is off for us.
Stanley, our BMD is doing ok with his basic obedience, but in a slow,
good-natured sort of way.
Just recently, (although he was neutered at 6 months), he's been acting a
bit like a teenager,
testing me a little bit, with a bit of a stubborn streak.
Introducing a new pup now may be inviting a teenage-like rebellion, and I
most certainly don't want to spark that!
I think we'll wait until we've mastered the one dog family, before becoming
a multi-dog family.

I was hoping that by posting this, someone else out there may have the
perfect home for one of these babies.

Jennifer in Walpole, MA
with almost 10 month old berner teen, Stanley,






RE: Lepto Vaccination

2003-07-17 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Susan,
Can you guide me to the research site on this issue. I'm having a hard time
convincing myself that vaccinosis causes ACL injuries!

et al

Personally I never vaccinated baby puppies with Lepto and as our risk
factor is low I choose to avoid this one for my dogs. I understood it was
the carrying agent that caused the reaction not the vaccine itself and the
new vaccine is better and longer lasting.

New owners of puppies should discuss with their vet about splitting the
vaccines and avoiding those not really needed or at least waiting until
puppy is older. They do not have to be pincushions and have all their shots
at once.


Rose T.



Re: Protocol for Vaccinations

2003-07-17 Thread berner1
Try:
 http://www.doglogic.com/vaccination.htm
 http://www.vth.colostate.edu/vth/savp2.html
 http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/vmth/clientinfo/info/vaccinproto.html

You'll find more information than you may want to wade through if you do a google 
search on "canine vaccine protocol"

Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA


- Original Message -
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering if someone has a link for info. on the newest veterinary literature 
regarding updated vaccination protocols.


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Protocol for Vaccinations

2003-07-17 Thread HenochNJ
Since the topic of when/whether to vaccinate has come up again, I was wondering if 
someone has a link for info. on the newest veterinary literature regarding updated 
vaccination protocols.
I have 2 dogs and 2 cats and have been wondering when/if to start titering rather than 
continuing with annual vaccinations. All my animals at this point are 3 years old or 
younger and have been fully vaccinated according to traditional standards up to this 
point.
Can someone point me toward a Web site that sets forth the new 
protocol/recommendations re: vaccinating/titering?
Thanks.
Anne
Cranford, NJ
with Titan and Maddie and the two feline friends



A great line

2003-07-17 Thread Molly Bass
This was sent to me today and I thought it was worth sharing.

"...Saving just one pet won't change the world
...but, surely, the world will change for that one pet..."


Molly
Charlottesville, VA


Re: Dog cars

2003-07-17 Thread Ruth Reynolds
I really enjoy the discussions about dogmobiles.  There are so many
different lifestyles people live with their Berners.

If you asked my DOGS what their fav dogmobile is, they'd ALL claim the 1990
Cadillac Eldorado I inherited from my dad when he passed away.   What they
REALLY like about it is lounging in the really cushy back seat and hanging
their heads out the windows, ears flapping in the breeze.  Every now and
then I just GOTTA let em be dogs!

My everyday dogmobile has been a full size van since 1981.  I have two
Fords, one Dodge, and now a Chevy.  I have really LOVED my
dogmobilesevery one of them.  Can't imagine having dogs without a van
due to the ease of entry and loading equipment.  But those little scoot
around small SUV's sure look like they'd be fun to drive!

Ruth Reynolds
Pioneer Bernese



Boris and the night creature

2003-07-17 Thread wendy beard
Picture the scene:
It's midnight. Hubby is snoozing peacefully on the couch in front of the 
TV. Teenagers upstairs in respective bedrooms. Self catching up on e-mail 
and getting ready for bed.
Two staccato woofs can be heard from outside. A familiar odor permeates the 
house. Son and heir emerges from bedroom. "Pwwar! Has Boris been skunked?"
Rush downstairs in panic. Hubby stirs. No mistaking that smell (no, it's 
not hubby!).
"got any of that stuff to spray on to get rid of the smell" he enquires
"what stuff"
"you know, that stuff"
"NO"
Mind in a whir - think. Seen it often enough on the Berner-L. What IS it 
that they use? Light bulb goes on *AHA* "Tomato Juice!" I declare triumphantly.
"got no tomato juice" says hubby
"AH, but we have a tin of diced tomatoes and a liquidizer" I retort. "Get 
that dog in the bath while I juice the tomatoes".
Whir, whir. Off I trot upstairs to the bathroom. Tanja and Tyra stand 
grinning outside the door. They are wise dogs, they say, Boris is oh, so 
foolish. Open the door, hubby standing looking helplessly at Boris.
"He won't get in the bath" he says forlornly.
"well, of course he won't!" I say exasperatedly "Make him".
I grab one end, he grabs the other and we heave. 1-2-3 HUP! Boris stands 
panting in the bath. I quickly climb in beside him and tip tomato pulp over 
his head.
"What's that supposed to do" asks Paul
"I dunno, I just read it somewhere".
Suddenly - "Boris NO!". Too late. He shakes and the whole room is 
covered in tomato. Start to rinse it off him.
"Is he supposed to be covered in pips?"
"Hey, I'm doing my best here"
Rinsed and shampooed, Boris gives a few more hearty shakes. I'm now 
completely drenched and covered in tomato. Boris looks forlorn. Get towel, 
place on edge of bath and  give a push. Out he tumbles.
Bathroom looks like it's been the scene of a very bloody battle. Black hair 
and tomato everywhere.
Leave the scene and head downstairs to the basement where blower awaits. By 
now, it's 1am and I'm not looking forward to a lengthy grooming session. 
More hair. Tanja stands next to Boris. She likes the blower. Tyra prances 
around gleefully. Finally get some semblance of dryness. Brush out yet more 
undercoat.
Tumble into bed, exhausted. The bathroom will have to wait

Wendy, Boris and the pointy pests

Ottawa, Canada
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Re: Dog cars

2003-07-17 Thread gwebara
Andrea
If you are going to go big like a Suburban, you might as well get a van.
Van's are no more difficult to drive than the Suburban and you can get
them customized to accomadate nearly anything. I live in the city and got
a good used van several years ago for the dogs but my job has me
constantly on the road in the city driving so also got a Geo Metro which
is a cheap car that  is good for gas mileage and getting in and out of
parking. Environmental friendly.
The van is used only for dog events so I have only put a moderate amount
of miles on it. It has a back seat which I left in place and on it I have
permanently bungied down 2 400 crates with room under for another 500 and
a folding chair. On top of the crates I have my grooming table. Another
chair, grooming arm, van care items, and various other items fit to the
sides of the crates. 
Inside where the 2 seats used to be I removed them and now have 2 crates
1 400 and 1 500 also bungied in place. On top of these crates are bungied
more crates and whatever else I want. There is also room for 1-3 dogs
depending on size to ride free (which I don't like to do unless needed).
In front between the passenger seats is room for my cooler. It has front
rear A/C for our Texas heat. I love my van! I have traveled from
California to Wisconsin to Georgia in it and plan on many more miles
still.
I might add here. Whatever you get be sure to get plenty of bungie cords
and use them to attach and stabilize whatever you are hauling. While it
may not be permanently attached it may be enough to slow the projectory
of an object flying forward in a sudden stop or wreck. Several years ago
a co-worker was in a wreck in her van. Everyone was seat belted in but a
table unsecured in the back flew forward hitting her in the back of the
head resulting in permanent blindness. Bungies are wonderful come in a
variety of sizes and I never leave home without bunches of bungies

Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
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Re: Dog cars- Suburban is ultimate Bernermobile

2003-07-17 Thread berner1
Forwarded for Vilma in Plain Text:


Andrea,
I really liked my 1998 Ford Expedition - got so much extra room for not that much 
extra $ and the 4 wheel drive and high clearance was great in the snow. Could get 3 
wire crates in (2 of  about the 700 Varikennel size and a 400.) 

But I am totally in LOVE w/ my 2001 Suburban. I will never be w/out a 
Suburban now. Rear air, liftgate window, can put all 4 windows all the way down for 
ventilation in the summer (unlike most minivans.) I can get 2  700's and 2  500's in 
it and you can fit a male Berner and a Corgi in one 700 w/ ease or even a small female 
Lab in w/ the male Berner if they get along. This car is great in the Ohio winters 
totally saved my life in an accident w/ a drunk driver this year (I was going 65 mph 
and he was about 45 in a pickup truck and we both walked away.) And Suburbans last 
forever, can rarely even find used ones b/c people keep them forever. 

Vilma Briggs (Kistner)
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT
Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT
U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT
Thirdtym's A Charm, CD
Hob Nob Clouds In My Coffee (puppy "Perc")
foster Bernerboy: Brew/Bruin
and as yet to be named foster Berner mix: One Very Lucky Boy



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Re: Dog cars- need help

2003-07-17 Thread Nancy
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