Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] win 7.6.0-31266 nightly broken

2010-08-28 Thread andyg

Turns out I forgot to update a file for the Win32 build, and now the
build server is out of space... so it'll be a bit longer. :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] win 7.6.0-31266 nightly broken

2010-08-28 Thread slate

andy g to the rescue


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] win 7.6.0-31266 nightly broken

2010-08-28 Thread andyg

Yep, I'm running a new build now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] win 7.6.0-31266 nightly broken

2010-08-28 Thread kidstypike

slate;572742 Wrote: 
> Tried to install but it didn't go to well. Turned out that the install
> was only 41 MB instead of the usual 50 MB

+1 SBS won't start.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Wirrunna

andyg;572721 Wrote: 
> As was decided in bug 10324, I will change this to use exact string
> matching.  It's really the only solution.

JJZolx;572801 Wrote: 
> Fairly radical, in that a lot of users are going to install 7.6 and find
> their loosely tagged libraries containing extra artists, extra genres
> and some albums could be broken up.  I think it might be good to do
> this sooner rather than later and see how well beta testers accept the
> notion that they need to fix their tags when things looked fine
> before.
> 
> But it's also probably the correct solution.  It would mean that
> running multiple new & changed scans would be one step closer to being
> the same as running a full scan.  And that the order in which the files
> are scanned becomes less important.

I agree fully with andyg.
This discussion has explained why MIP can have different numbers of
albums and artists to SBS. 
I have seen what Jim is warning of after adding a friend's loosely
tagged iTunes library to SBS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread JJZolx

andyg;572721 Wrote: 
> As was decided in bug 10324, I will change this to use exact string
> matching.  It's really the only solution.

Fairly radical, in that a lot of users are going to install 7.6 and
find their loosely tagged libraries containing extra artists, extra
genres and some albums could be broken up.  I think it might be good to
do this sooner rather than later and see how well beta testers accept
the notion that they need to fix their tags when things looked fine
before.

But it's also probably the correct solution.  It would mean that
running multiple new & changed scans would be one step closer to being
the same as running a full scan.  And that the order in which the files
are scanned becomes less important.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread pallfreeman

andyg;572721 Wrote: 
> As was decided in bug 10324, I will change this to use exact string
> matching.  It's really the only solution.

I was unaware I was re-opening old wounds. Sorry. Sort of. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread pallfreeman

JJZolx;572606 Wrote: 
> LOL.  Do a forums search next time.

OK, I've read the thread, and the bug reports. Quite lively.

You expect much from someone who's only been around since April. 

I'm not saying that's a bad thing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kind of positive feedback

2010-08-28 Thread michael123

Memory config is 'Normal'


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Meyer
>7.6 only.
Okay, I see you've retargetted the bug now ;-)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Andy Grundman

On Aug 28, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Phil Meyer wrote:

>> As was decided in bug 10324, I will change this to use exact string
>> matching.  It's really the only solution.
> Great!  Would that be in 7.6, or also 7.5.x?

7.6 only.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Meyer
>As was decided in bug 10324, I will change this to use exact string
>matching.  It's really the only solution.
Great!  Would that be in 7.6, or also 7.5.x?
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[SlimDevices: Beta] win 7.6.0-31266 nightly broken

2010-08-28 Thread slate

Tried to install but it didn't go to well. Turned out that the install
was only 41 MB instead of the usual 50 MB


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread andyg

As was decided in bug 10324, I will change this to use exact string
matching.  It's really the only solution.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Meyer
>But his is an easy case o and ö are completely different letters a
>diacritic is a mark for some other kind of pronunciation of the same
>letter or what ?
>
>so o=ö is not more correct than a=e for example so that was easy.
>
An artist name containing a ' should be considered the same as an artist name 
containing `.

But when searching, any diacritics or punctuation can be removed to find more 
hits.

So, a user could have songs by an artist "Sinead O'Connor", and other songs by 
an artist called "Sinead O`Connor".  They should be treated as different 
artists, but each would have a namesearch content of "Sinead OConnor", and 
searching for either "Sinead O'Connor" or "Sinead O`Connor" would find both 
artists.

It would then be possible to easily find the music that has inconsistent tags 
and fix them.  When all music with artist="Sinead O`Connor" are eliminated, a 
rescan should delete that artist.

As the two forms of the artist name are currently treated as the same artist 
record, no amount of tag tweaking and scanning for changed music will correct 
the DB.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Recent 7.6 firmware semi-bricks my Touch

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Leigh

I'm happy to report that Felix has fixed this in 9075 firmware.
Thanks
Phil


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Leigh

Mnyb;572684 Wrote: 
> They fixed it for nordic characters .
> 
> It displays Bjork and Björk as artist, thats good .
> 
> But search for Bjork does not turn up Björk ? thats ok with me as a
> swede, but i bet some other folks have a hard time finding the "ö" key
> :-/
> 
> But his is an easy case o and ö are completely different letters a
> diacritic is a mark for some other kind of pronunciation of the same
> letter or what ?
> 
> so o=ö is not more correct than a=e for example so that was easy.
> 
> But search should still turn up ö for o as  a service for all fine
> people thats not from Sweden.

Never mind if you are in Greece, Russia...

I think there has to be a compromise here.

I think the simplest solution is to use exact string matching (no
normalisation of special/extended characters). So if you've tagged
Bjork as Bjork it will find Bjork (but not Björk) and display Bjork.
If you've tagged Björk it will find and display Björk but not Bjork.


If you have Bjork and Björk they will be 2 artists.

This way, the user is in complete control, the software is not trying
to outsmart them (and failing) and any problems are easy to find and
fix.

Heck - it even makes the code SIMPLER! :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Mnyb

They fixed it for nordic characters .

It displays Bjork and Björk as artist, thats good .

But search for Bjork does not turn up Björk ? thats ok with me as a
swede, but i bet some other folks have a hard time finding the "ö" key
:-/

But his is an easy case o and ö are completely different letters a
diacritic is a mark for some other kind of pronunciation of the same
letter or what ?

so o=ö is not more correct than a=e for example so that was easy.

But search should still turn up ö for o as  a service for all fine
people thats not from Sweden.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Meyer
If the scanner/database were to use exact equality string matching for artists, 
then there wouldn't be a problem.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread JJZolx

Philip Meyer;572650 Wrote: 
> This sounds related to a bug I raised a long time ago:
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10324

Definitely related.  Whatever the fix for bug 16488, it will close bug
10324 by defining the behavior for updates when the name string is not
character-identical to what's in the database, even though there's a
match in the namesearch column.  The crux of both is that the 'first
in' scanning behavior prohibits a new & changed scan from properly
updating the database if the tagging is changed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kind of positive feedback

2010-08-28 Thread Mnyb

It's a brand new setting since qa couple of days in latest 7.6beta, if
you got a machine with some performance and wants to use it sbs.

settings > advanced > performance


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!

2010-08-28 Thread Phil Meyer
This sounds related to a bug I raised a long time ago: 
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10324

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kind of positive feedback

2010-08-28 Thread michael123

I don't remember I changed any defaults.
Where is this setting?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Kind of positive feedback

2010-08-28 Thread Mnyb

With "Database Memory Config" set to high ?


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