Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't hold your breath, as they're commercial). Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
Of course I fully disagree with their remark that the developer should be familiar with Wiley. In fact, the problem is not about knowing their quirks. The problem is that their broken format does not give a way to recognize it as RIS, and distinguish it from some similar formats, such as PubMed. They don't add *any* identifying characteristic. Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 5:06 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi Christian, thanks for your answer. I just chatted with a support guy named Peter Phillips at Wiley, I thought you'd might be interested in their not so supportive attitude (my favorite is the bit on the software vendor supposed to be familiar with wiley): --snip-- [I explain the problem] Peter Phillips: You are correct, there is no TY field, but I cannot see that we populate this field with any of our citations. Peter Phillips: Your software vendor should be familiar with the citation format used by Wiley InterScience and should be able to supply the correct filters to import our data into their software. Bertolt: Well, but the TY field is standard in the RIS specification. Maybe other reference managers can handle a missing TY, but bibdesk - the most popular BibTeX front end for the Mac - unfortunately cannot. The bibdesk developers claim that the TY field is a neccessity for proper RIS import (i can forward you their mail if you wish). Peter Phillips: We export citations in Plain Text and EndNote format. Bertolt: Well actually its RIS and EndNote format, yes. Peter Phillips: I will forward your comments onto our developers to see if they are aware of the specification you mention. Bertolt: Thank you very much. Most kind. Peter Phillips: Thank you for using Wiley InterScience Customer Support Live Chat. You will receive a transcript of this chat by email. When we have resolved your query, you will receive another email confirming the answer we have supplied. --snip-- My bet is that I will either never hear from them again or that they will repeat the claim that software should support their non-TY- citations. Cheers, Bertolt Am 02.11.2007 um 15:20 schrieb Christiaan Hofman: The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't hold your breath, as they're commercial). Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and
Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working
Hi Christian, thanks for your answer. I just chatted with a support guy named Peter Phillips at Wiley, I thought you'd might be interested in their not so supportive attitude (my favorite is the bit on the software vendor supposed to be familiar with wiley): --snip-- [I explain the problem] Peter Phillips: You are correct, there is no TY field, but I cannot see that we populate this field with any of our citations. Peter Phillips: Your software vendor should be familiar with the citation format used by Wiley InterScience and should be able to supply the correct filters to import our data into their software. Bertolt: Well, but the TY field is standard in the RIS specification. Maybe other reference managers can handle a missing TY, but bibdesk - the most popular BibTeX front end for the Mac - unfortunately cannot. The bibdesk developers claim that the TY field is a neccessity for proper RIS import (i can forward you their mail if you wish). Peter Phillips: We export citations in Plain Text and EndNote format. Bertolt: Well actually its RIS and EndNote format, yes. Peter Phillips: I will forward your comments onto our developers to see if they are aware of the specification you mention. Bertolt: Thank you very much. Most kind. Peter Phillips: Thank you for using Wiley InterScience Customer Support Live Chat. You will receive a transcript of this chat by email. When we have resolved your query, you will receive another email confirming the answer we have supplied. --snip-- My bet is that I will either never hear from them again or that they will repeat the claim that software should support their non-TY- citations. Cheers, Bertolt Am 02.11.2007 um 15:20 schrieb Christiaan Hofman: The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't hold your breath, as they're commercial). Christiaan On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote: Hi all, I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ ABSTRACT I click on Download Citation. On the following page, I select Plain Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk - Add to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I missing? I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0. Thanks for your help, Bertolt -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Bertolt Meyer Oberassistent Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich Sozialpsychologie Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15 CH-8050 Zürich [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +41446357282 fax: +41446357279 mob: +41788966111 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] BibDesk z39.50
Hello, I'm a newbie in using BibDesk and think it is great tool organising literature. Everybody posts, that you can setup any online database which the z39.50 protocol via file-New Search Group. This item is not existent in my file menu. I hope somebody can help me solving this problem. I'm using BibDesk version 1.2.11 running on Mac OS 10.3.9. Thanks in advance Ben - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Compatibility of BibDesk
Hi Does anyone happen to know if BibDesk is Leopard compatible? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Compatibility of BibDesk
On Nov 2, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Paul Calamai wrote: Does anyone happen to know if BibDesk is Leopard compatible? Yes, BibDesk is Leopard compatible. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Compatibility of BibDesk
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:34 PM, Paul Calamai wrote: Does anyone happen to know if BibDesk is Leopard compatible? 'Til now I have no problems with it under Leopard Niels - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] input managers on Leopard
As a recent post pointed out, there are issues with input managers on Leopard. Apple's official position is that input manager bundles have never been supported: http://lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev/2006/Mar/msg01106.html http://lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev/2007/Oct/msg01622.html Because of tightened restrictions in Mac OS X 10.5, the Completion pref pane will not be available on 10.5 and later. The input manager bundle will still be in BibDesk's bundle if you want to grope around and install it yourself, but it will be unsupported. You can search the web or the 10.5 AppKit release notes for further info. BibDesk's input manager is really handy, but it's been a huge hassle to maintain, and uses some nasty hacks. If you'd like to see the functionality incorporated into your favorite Cocoa editor, please ask the developer to incorporate the code that we have. -- Adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] input managers on Leopard
On 02.11.2007, at 23:19, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: As a recent post pointed out, there are issues with input managers on Leopard. Apple's official position is that input manager bundles have never been supported: http://lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev/2006/Mar/msg01106.html http://lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev/2007/Oct/msg01622.html Because of tightened restrictions in Mac OS X 10.5, the Completion pref pane will not be available on 10.5 and later. The input manager bundle will still be in BibDesk's bundle if you want to grope around and install it yourself, but it will be unsupported. You can search the web or the 10.5 AppKit release notes for further info. BibDesk's input manager is really handy, but it's been a huge hassle to maintain, and uses some nasty hacks. If you'd like to see the functionality incorporated into your favorite Cocoa editor, please ask the developer to incorporate the code that we have. Is there anything known concerning plans for BibDesk integration in TeXShop? simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators. Francis Ford Coppola - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] input managers on Leopard
On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 02.11.2007, at 23:19, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: BibDesk's input manager is really handy, but it's been a huge hassle to maintain, and uses some nasty hacks. If you'd like to see the functionality incorporated into your favorite Cocoa editor, please ask the developer to incorporate the code that we have. Is there anything known concerning plans for BibDesk integration in TeXShop? No. You'll have to ask Dick Koch. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Formatting of drag-and-drop citations
Hello, When I drag-and-drop a temporary citation from BibDesk into my word processor (Mellel), a font comes with the text. Is there any way to get unformatted text? Thanks, Ingrid - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Formatting of drag-and-drop citations
On 3 Nov 2007, at 12:24 AM, Ingrid Giffin wrote: Hello, When I drag-and-drop a temporary citation from BibDesk into my word processor (Mellel), a font comes with the text. Is there any way to get unformatted text? Thanks, Ingrid What format are you dragging? If it is Text, the answer is no. You can use a text template instead if you want to have unformatted text. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] have people seen c2bib?
I mentioned this on this list quite a while ago, when it was in its really early stages. Used with PDF-to-text, you can process a PDF and then have cb2bib import the references. It didn't work so well when I tried it before, but it sounds like it's improving. It looks like people submit regexps that they've created for different journal sources. One problem is that many PDF's from professionally published journals seem to be locked and so don't permit extracting their text. -Adam On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:31 PM, James Howison wrote: It takes plain text references and uses Regexes to turn them into BibTeX. http://www.molspaces.com/d_cb2bib-overview.php It has some built in regexes (eg JSTOR and PubMeb), but it is more useful once you get into writing your own regexes. The interface is very, shall we say, linux quirky, but there is a Mac binary and it does work. One thing I like is that you just use a single capture for the whole authors or editors string and it is quite smart about normalizing them for BibTeX. The regex format it is using I found wasn't well documented (ok, I'm sure if I looked in the source I could find out!), but I found it to basically be PCRE with the slightly annoying quirk that it doesn't work with the 'non-greedy' specifier (ie (.*) works (doing a greedy match) while (.*?) doesn't work (AFAIK it should do a non-greedy match). It does some pre-processing for newlines across platforms (that is documented on the website). I'm using it to turn text bibliographies in something like Harvard citation format (from Journalism Studies) into BibTeX references. --J - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] have people seen c2bib?
On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: I mentioned this on this list quite a while ago, when it was in its really early stages. ah, me need to pay attention :) Used with PDF-to-text, you can process a PDF and then have cb2bib import the references. Yeah, strangely you can't pass it whole text files of references, though. I think that would only need a small tweak to the code, however. It didn't work so well when I tried it before, but it sounds like it's improving. It looks like people submit regexps that they've created for different journal sources. Yeah, I'll submit mine when I'm done, but most of these ones are pretty specific. One problem is that many PDF's from professionally published journals seem to be locked and so don't permit extracting their text. Yes, I've written to a few publishers about that. It's really silly, honestly who makes money out of unauthorized copies of journal articles? It just annoys regular users trying to use attributed quotations. -Adam On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:31 PM, James Howison wrote: It takes plain text references and uses Regexes to turn them into BibTeX. http://www.molspaces.com/d_cb2bib-overview.php It has some built in regexes (eg JSTOR and PubMeb), but it is more useful once you get into writing your own regexes. The interface is very, shall we say, linux quirky, but there is a Mac binary and it does work. One thing I like is that you just use a single capture for the whole authors or editors string and it is quite smart about normalizing them for BibTeX. The regex format it is using I found wasn't well documented (ok, I'm sure if I looked in the source I could find out!), but I found it to basically be PCRE with the slightly annoying quirk that it doesn't work with the 'non-greedy' specifier (ie (.*) works (doing a greedy match) while (.*?) doesn't work (AFAIK it should do a non-greedy match). It does some pre-processing for newlines across platforms (that is documented on the website). I'm using it to turn text bibliographies in something like Harvard citation format (from Journalism Studies) into BibTeX references. --J - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel: (914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
