Re: [Bibdesk-users] Differentiating between multiple attached files in BibDesk
On Jan 7, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On Monday, January 07, 2008, at 03:10PM, "Adam M. Goldstein" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: >> >>> I was just working with the new file view; it occurs to me that at >>> some point (not to hold up 1.3.13), it might be helpful for users to >>> be able to differentiate between the multiple attached files. For >>> example, I have articles, summaries of articles and books, and >>> tables >>> of contents attached as PDFs. Formerly I created multiple local-url >>> fields to handle this. > > Alex, do you have a lot of references with multiple attachments, or > is it a small percentage? I generally work with references that > will have 1 or 2 attachments at most, so I'm interested in hearing > about problems from others. I'd also like to make sure that it's a / > real/ problem before solving it :). > >>> One way of doing this is by color (a la the Finder's tags). BibDesk >>> wouldn't necessarily even store the information, it might just fetch >>> and show and possibly set (as each icon's background, for instance) >>> colors from the Finder. >>> >> >> It sounds like you might use this, but I personally have never been >> quite able to get the finder's different file types and corresponding >> color coding to work for me. > > It works for me, but I never use it. What do you mean about file > types? I can see how some people might like to display the Finder > label color, but we'll have to think about that. I'm hoping to get > the release out tonight or tomorrow (and likewise hoping we didn't > break anything today). > I don't mean that the feature is broken; it's just that I have never been able to use it the way it seems to be intended. You can color code your files according to label, so, for instance, once I tried to color code all PDFs that were readings for a class so that they would turn out red in various finder views; and I did this by assigning them a label in the finder and setting that label up so that all of its associated files had the red coloring. But there are only a few colors to use and I always had a hard time putting things in the right categories, so I gave up. = Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Differentiating between multiple attached files in BibDesk
On Monday, January 07, 2008, at 03:37PM, "Christiaan Hofman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 8 Jan 2008, at 12:27 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> >> [snip] > >> It works for me, but I never use it. What do you mean about file >> types? I can see how some people might like to display the Finder >> label color, but we'll have to think about that. I'm hoping to get >> the release out tonight or tomorrow (and likewise hoping we didn't >> break anything today). > >Is the crossref problem solved than? No. I'll look at it later. I don't think it's worth holding up the release for, though. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Differentiating between multiple attached files in BibDesk
On 8 Jan 2008, at 12:27 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > [snip] > It works for me, but I never use it. What do you mean about file > types? I can see how some people might like to display the Finder > label color, but we'll have to think about that. I'm hoping to get > the release out tonight or tomorrow (and likewise hoping we didn't > break anything today). Is the crossref problem solved than? Christiaan - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Differentiating between multiple attached files in BibDesk
On Monday, January 07, 2008, at 03:10PM, "Adam M. Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: > >> I was just working with the new file view; it occurs to me that at >> some point (not to hold up 1.3.13), it might be helpful for users to >> be able to differentiate between the multiple attached files. For >> example, I have articles, summaries of articles and books, and tables >> of contents attached as PDFs. Formerly I created multiple local-url >> fields to handle this. Alex, do you have a lot of references with multiple attachments, or is it a small percentage? I generally work with references that will have 1 or 2 attachments at most, so I'm interested in hearing about problems from others. I'd also like to make sure that it's a /real/ problem before solving it :). >> One way of doing this is by color (a la the Finder's tags). BibDesk >> wouldn't necessarily even store the information, it might just fetch >> and show and possibly set (as each icon's background, for instance) >> colors from the Finder. >> > >It sounds like you might use this, but I personally have never been >quite able to get the finder's different file types and corresponding >color coding to work for me. It works for me, but I never use it. What do you mean about file types? I can see how some people might like to display the Finder label color, but we'll have to think about that. I'm hoping to get the release out tonight or tomorrow (and likewise hoping we didn't break anything today). >One thought that crosses my mind that is not particularly developer- >friendly I think is to create metadata for attached files. I have no >idea how that would work. So for instance one attached file could have >a type "TOC" or something like that. Sounds like even more complexity, and not real likely to happen. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Differentiating between multiple attached files in BibDesk
On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: > I was just working with the new file view; it occurs to me that at > some point (not to hold up 1.3.13), it might be helpful for users to > be able to differentiate between the multiple attached files. For > example, I have articles, summaries of articles and books, and tables > of contents attached as PDFs. Formerly I created multiple local-url > fields to handle this. > > One way of doing this is by color (a la the Finder's tags). BibDesk > wouldn't necessarily even store the information, it might just fetch > and show and possibly set (as each icon's background, for instance) > colors from the Finder. > It sounds like you might use this, but I personally have never been quite able to get the finder's different file types and corresponding color coding to work for me. Also, in BD you can either use quicklook (in Leopard) or else enlarge the preview to see what the file is. A little testing shows that a moderate-to-small size preview gives enough resolution to make out the basic kind of thing a file is---a link to a web page, an article (JSTOR articles are particularly conspicuous), a book or something with a title page. I hate being negative about things but I would be interested in hearing how the color-coding scheme would work. One thought that crosses my mind that is not particularly developer- friendly I think is to create metadata for attached files. I have no idea how that would work. So for instance one attached file could have a type "TOC" or something like that. -Adam G = Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
