Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-30 Thread Rolf Schmolling
Hi Christiaan,

here is the response from Apple:

> his is a follow up to Bug ID# 5712415.  After further investigation  
> it has been determined that this is a known issue, which is  
> currently being investigated by engineering.  This issue has been  
> filed in our bug database under the original Bug ID# 5574036. The  
> original bug number being used to track this duplicate issue can be  
> found in the State column, in this format:  Duplicate/OrigBug#.

Can't wait for 10.5.2

Greetings,

Rolf


Am 29.01.2008 um 15:03 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> This was your last mail? (I got the other reply after this one).
>
> On 29 Jan 2008, at 2:37 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Correction:
>>
>> it does seem to be a problem with Apple because I just checked: from
>> context-menu it opens a version from TimeMachine-backup.
>>
>
> And it's probably the same version that BibDesk's Open With menu tags
> as default?
>
>> Will send feedback to Apple.
>>
>
> Tell them that launch services does not choose the correct copy of
> the app, it should prefer your copy in Applications over a copy
> anywhere else. According to their documentation they indeed don't
> have this rule, but IMHO it should be one of the rules. I consider
> this a bug. Moreover I noticed that their version comparison is
> pretty lame, they think 1.0RC2 is newer than 1.0.3.
>
> You can refer to my report rdar://problem/5152537.
>
> In the future we will always include the copy in Applications in the
> Open With menu. Perhaps we should also override Launch Service's
> choice of default app if we find a better candidiate.
>
> Christiaan
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>> Am 29.01.2008 um 14:16 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>
>>> Is Skim the default app for PDFs? If so, this is mostly a problem of
>>> Apple, because it chooses a random copy as the default (and that's
>>> the one we always include). E.g. if you just double-click in Finder,
>>> which one will it choose? On my computer it consistently chooses the
>>> wrong copy. I filed a bug report with Apple a while ago, which they
>>> don't want to acknowledge. Otherwise we should always prefer the
>>> version in /Applications, if it exists. Is that not the case for  
>>> you?
>>> I have no idea how to recognize a version from Time Machine.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2008, at 1:50 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>>>
 Hi Christiaan,

 I tried the latest build: http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/
 BibDesk-20080128.dmg


 Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly
 de-
 populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it
 STILL
 opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.

 The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if
 you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows
 that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app
 saved by
 TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).


 Greetings,

 Rolf




 Greetings,

 Rolf
 (MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)

 Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved.
> We
> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So  
> old
> versions in time machine may still show up.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
>> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
>> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-
>> click
>> and chosing Preview.
>>
>> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims…
>> and
>> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed
>> that
>> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do
>> the
>> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal.
>> Since I
>> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any
>> idea
>> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder
>> and
>> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
>> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have  
>> the
>> same problem in Finder).
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>> --
>> Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Berlin.DE
>> http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-29 Thread Rolf Schmolling
Hi Christiaan,

it's filed as Bug ID# 5712415.

Sth. to add: in the context-menu in Finder there is "Skim (Standard)"  
and then below "Skim 1.0" mentioned so it does point to an older  
version accessible via backup. Nevertheless this is confusing.

Greetings,

Rolf


Am 29.01.2008 um 15:03 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> This was your last mail? (I got the other reply after this one).
>
> On 29 Jan 2008, at 2:37 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Correction:
>>
>> it does seem to be a problem with Apple because I just checked: from
>> context-menu it opens a version from TimeMachine-backup.
>>
>
> And it's probably the same version that BibDesk's Open With menu tags
> as default?
>
>> Will send feedback to Apple.
>>
>
> Tell them that launch services does not choose the correct copy of
> the app, it should prefer your copy in Applications over a copy
> anywhere else. According to their documentation they indeed don't
> have this rule, but IMHO it should be one of the rules. I consider
> this a bug. Moreover I noticed that their version comparison is
> pretty lame, they think 1.0RC2 is newer than 1.0.3.
>
> You can refer to my report rdar://problem/5152537.
>
> In the future we will always include the copy in Applications in the
> Open With menu. Perhaps we should also override Launch Service's
> choice of default app if we find a better candidiate.
>
> Christiaan
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>> Am 29.01.2008 um 14:16 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>
>>> Is Skim the default app for PDFs? If so, this is mostly a problem of
>>> Apple, because it chooses a random copy as the default (and that's
>>> the one we always include). E.g. if you just double-click in Finder,
>>> which one will it choose? On my computer it consistently chooses the
>>> wrong copy. I filed a bug report with Apple a while ago, which they
>>> don't want to acknowledge. Otherwise we should always prefer the
>>> version in /Applications, if it exists. Is that not the case for  
>>> you?
>>> I have no idea how to recognize a version from Time Machine.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2008, at 1:50 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>>>
 Hi Christiaan,

 I tried the latest build: http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/
 BibDesk-20080128.dmg


 Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly
 de-
 populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it
 STILL
 opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.

 The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if
 you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows
 that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app
 saved by
 TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).


 Greetings,

 Rolf




 Greetings,

 Rolf
 (MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)

 Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved.
> We
> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So  
> old
> versions in time machine may still show up.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
>> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
>> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-
>> click
>> and chosing Preview.
>>
>> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims…
>> and
>> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed
>> that
>> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do
>> the
>> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal.
>> Since I
>> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any
>> idea
>> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder
>> and
>> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
>> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have  
>> the
>> same problem in Finder).
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>> --
>> Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Berlin.DE
>> http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-29 Thread Christiaan Hofman
This was your last mail? (I got the other reply after this one).

On 29 Jan 2008, at 2:37 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:

> Correction:
>
> it does seem to be a problem with Apple because I just checked: from
> context-menu it opens a version from TimeMachine-backup.
>

And it's probably the same version that BibDesk's Open With menu tags  
as default?

> Will send feedback to Apple.
>

Tell them that launch services does not choose the correct copy of  
the app, it should prefer your copy in Applications over a copy  
anywhere else. According to their documentation they indeed don't  
have this rule, but IMHO it should be one of the rules. I consider  
this a bug. Moreover I noticed that their version comparison is  
pretty lame, they think 1.0RC2 is newer than 1.0.3.

You can refer to my report rdar://problem/5152537.

In the future we will always include the copy in Applications in the  
Open With menu. Perhaps we should also override Launch Service's  
choice of default app if we find a better candidiate.

Christiaan

> Greetings,
>
> Rolf
>
> Am 29.01.2008 um 14:16 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>
>> Is Skim the default app for PDFs? If so, this is mostly a problem of
>> Apple, because it chooses a random copy as the default (and that's
>> the one we always include). E.g. if you just double-click in Finder,
>> which one will it choose? On my computer it consistently chooses the
>> wrong copy. I filed a bug report with Apple a while ago, which they
>> don't want to acknowledge. Otherwise we should always prefer the
>> version in /Applications, if it exists. Is that not the case for you?
>> I have no idea how to recognize a version from Time Machine.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> On 29 Jan 2008, at 1:50 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Christiaan,
>>>
>>> I tried the latest build: http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/
>>> BibDesk-20080128.dmg
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly
>>> de-
>>> populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it
>>> STILL
>>> opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.
>>>
>>> The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if
>>> you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows
>>> that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app  
>>> saved by
>>> TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>> (MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)
>>>
>>> Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>>
 Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved.
 We
 will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old
 versions in time machine may still show up.

 Christiaan

 On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-
> click
> and chosing Preview.
>
> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims…
> and
> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed
> that
> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do
> the
> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal.
> Since I
> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any
> idea
> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder
> and
> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
> same problem in Finder).
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rolf
>
> --
> Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Berlin.DE
> http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/
>
>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-29 Thread Rolf Schmolling
Hi Christiaan,

Skim is the default viewer for pdfs on my machine, and double-clicking  
opens the right one on my startup-disk.

Note that this is not in any way critical, there is a workaround  
(showing pdf in finder, then opening with appropriate (different)  
viewer etc.) it just looks wrong.

Greetings,

Rolf

Am 29.01.2008 um 14:16 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> Is Skim the default app for PDFs? If so, this is mostly a problem of
> Apple, because it chooses a random copy as the default (and that's
> the one we always include). E.g. if you just double-click in Finder,
> which one will it choose? On my computer it consistently chooses the
> wrong copy. I filed a bug report with Apple a while ago, which they
> don't want to acknowledge. Otherwise we should always prefer the
> version in /Applications, if it exists. Is that not the case for you?
> I have no idea how to recognize a version from Time Machine.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 29 Jan 2008, at 1:50 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Hi Christiaan,
>>
>> I tried the latest build: http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/
>> BibDesk-20080128.dmg
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly
>> de-
>> populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it  
>> STILL
>> opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.
>>
>> The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if
>> you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows
>> that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app saved by
>> TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>> (MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)
>>
>> Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>
>>> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved.  
>>> We
>>> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old
>>> versions in time machine may still show up.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>>>
 Hello!

 I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
 highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
 respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-
 click
 and chosing Preview.

 Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims…  
 and
 finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed  
 that
 those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do  
 the
 same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal.  
 Since I
 plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any
 idea
 what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder  
 and
 THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
 I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
 same problem in Finder).

 Greetings,

 Rolf

 --
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-29 Thread Rolf Schmolling
Correction:

it does seem to be a problem with Apple because I just checked: from  
context-menu it opens a version from TimeMachine-backup.

Will send feedback to Apple.

Greetings,

Rolf

Am 29.01.2008 um 14:16 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> Is Skim the default app for PDFs? If so, this is mostly a problem of
> Apple, because it chooses a random copy as the default (and that's
> the one we always include). E.g. if you just double-click in Finder,
> which one will it choose? On my computer it consistently chooses the
> wrong copy. I filed a bug report with Apple a while ago, which they
> don't want to acknowledge. Otherwise we should always prefer the
> version in /Applications, if it exists. Is that not the case for you?
> I have no idea how to recognize a version from Time Machine.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 29 Jan 2008, at 1:50 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Hi Christiaan,
>>
>> I tried the latest build: http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/
>> BibDesk-20080128.dmg
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly
>> de-
>> populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it  
>> STILL
>> opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.
>>
>> The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if
>> you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows
>> that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app saved by
>> TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>> (MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)
>>
>> Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>
>>> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved.  
>>> We
>>> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old
>>> versions in time machine may still show up.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>>>
 Hello!

 I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
 highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
 respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-
 click
 and chosing Preview.

 Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims…  
 and
 finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed  
 that
 those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do  
 the
 same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal.  
 Since I
 plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any
 idea
 what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder  
 and
 THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
 I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
 same problem in Finder).

 Greetings,

 Rolf

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-29 Thread Christiaan Hofman
Is Skim the default app for PDFs? If so, this is mostly a problem of  
Apple, because it chooses a random copy as the default (and that's  
the one we always include). E.g. if you just double-click in Finder,  
which one will it choose? On my computer it consistently chooses the  
wrong copy. I filed a bug report with Apple a while ago, which they  
don't want to acknowledge. Otherwise we should always prefer the  
version in /Applications, if it exists. Is that not the case for you?  
I have no idea how to recognize a version from Time Machine.

Christiaan

On 29 Jan 2008, at 1:50 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:

> Hi Christiaan,
>
> I tried the latest build: http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/ 
> BibDesk-20080128.dmg
>
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly  
> de-
> populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it STILL
> opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.
>
> The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if
> you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows
> that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app saved by
> TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rolf
>
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rolf
> (MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)
>
> Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>
>> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved. We
>> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old
>> versions in time machine may still show up.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
>>> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
>>> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-
>>> click
>>> and chosing Preview.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and
>>> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that
>>> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the
>>> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I
>>> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any  
>>> idea
>>> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and
>>> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
>>> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
>>> same problem in Finder).
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-29 Thread Rolf Schmolling
Hi Christiaan,

I tried the latest build: 
http://bibdesk.demokratia.org/beta/BibDesk-20080128.dmg


Unfortunately it doesn't work (fully): The context-menu is properly de- 
populated BUT when chosing the ONLY version of Skim available it STILL  
opens some version from TimeMachine-Backup.

The screenshot diden't go through, I can send it to you directly if  
you are interested and contact me directly (e-mail below). It shows  
that the app which BibDesk openedwas the very FIRST Skim-app saved by  
TimeMachine (not the one on my startup-disk).


Greetings,

Rolf




Greetings,

Rolf
(MBP 2.3.3 GH 2GB Ram, German OSX 10.5.1)

Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved. We
> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old
> versions in time machine may still show up.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
>> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
>> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.- 
>> click
>> and chosing Preview.
>>
>> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and
>> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that
>> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the
>> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I
>> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any idea
>> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and
>> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
>> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
>> same problem in Finder).
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
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>>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-28 Thread Rolf Schmolling
Hi,
will try tomorrow (European Time)

thanks,

Rolf

Am 28.01.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved. We
> will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old
> versions in time machine may still show up.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
>> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
>> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.- 
>> click
>> and chosing Preview.
>>
>> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and
>> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that
>> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the
>> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I
>> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any idea
>> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and
>> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
>> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
>> same problem in Finder).
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Rolf
>>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-28 Thread Christiaan Hofman
Please try the next nightly build to se of this problem is solved. We  
will now remove duplicate apps with the same version number. So old  
versions in time machine may still show up.

Christiaan

On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-click
> and chosing Preview.
>
> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and
> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that
> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the
> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I
> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any idea
> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and
> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
> same problem in Finder).
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rolf
>
> --
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Problem with "open by" and using TimeMachine on Leopard 5.1

2008-01-27 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On 27 Jan 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I noticed sth. peculiar: I wanted to check how well any Skim-
> highlights would show up in Preview (none…) and tried to open the
> respective attached pdf-file in BibDesk (the new pane) via ctrl.-click
> and chosing Preview.
>
> Unfortunately an (almost) never-ending line of Acrobats…, Skims… and
> finally Previews… showed up. Chosing the first one later showed that
> those were all the apps backed up by TimeMachine. If I try to do the
> same thing in Finder, the ctrl.-click-menu does look normal. Since I
> plan NOT to switch of indexing my TimeMachine-Backup-volume, any idea
> what to do about this problem? My own workaround: show in Finder and
> THEN using the "open by"-menu not withstanding.
> I am sure my launch-services-databse is ok (otherwise I'd have the
> same problem in Finder).
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rolf


It is certainly in the Launch Services, as we just create the Open  
With... menu from the list we get from Launch Services. I don't know  
what Finder does. I guess it does some extra filtering of the  
returned app. It does show less apps for me. It's stupid LS does not  
do this. I'm not sure how this should be fixed. Perhaps we should  
have to filter out duplicates.

Christiaan



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