Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import

2012-06-02 Thread Fischlin Andreas 
Why not using the import button? Is the problem there persistent?

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On 02/06/2012, at 01:07 , Maxwell, Adam R wrote:

On Jun 1, 2012, at 15:56, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

On Jun 2, 2012, at 0:23, Sean Garrett-Roe wrote:

But the SP field (Pages in EN RIS Documentation.xls for Type Generic and 
Journal Article) isn't recognized. I've tried BP and EP but that didn't work 
either. What field tag is Bibdesk expecting?

Thanks,
Sean

Well, quite frankly, their definitions are a bit inconsistent between places 
and times. Whenever we fix it they seem to have changed it later on.

Yeah, no kidding; that spreadsheet is new, and more complicated than what I 
recall.  There's also a lot of code in BibDesk to deal with incorrect RIS from 
various sources, too; trying to massage each publisher's homegrown RIS into 
BibTeX is not trivial.

BibDesk expects SP and EP as start page and end page, respectively.  It used to 
accept PG, but it looks like that won't work anymore.  If you can do this

SP  - 2665
EP  - 2667

it ought to work.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import

2012-06-01 Thread Maxwell, Adam R 
On Jun 1, 2012, at 15:56, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

> On Jun 2, 2012, at 0:23, Sean Garrett-Roe wrote:
> 
>> But the SP field (Pages in EN RIS Documentation.xls for Type Generic and 
>> Journal Article) isn't recognized. I've tried BP and EP but that didn't work 
>> either. What field tag is Bibdesk expecting? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
> 
> Well, quite frankly, their definitions are a bit inconsistent between places 
> and times. Whenever we fix it they seem to have changed it later on.

Yeah, no kidding; that spreadsheet is new, and more complicated than what I 
recall.  There's also a lot of code in BibDesk to deal with incorrect RIS from 
various sources, too; trying to massage each publisher's homegrown RIS into 
BibTeX is not trivial.

BibDesk expects SP and EP as start page and end page, respectively.  It used to 
accept PG, but it looks like that won't work anymore.  If you can do this

SP  - 2665
EP  - 2667

it ought to work.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import

2012-06-01 Thread Christiaan Hofman 

On Jun 2, 2012, at 0:23, Sean Garrett-Roe wrote:

> Downloading from ISI's Endnote Web in RIS format and importing into BibDesk 
> is giving me problems:
> 
> Input: (input.txt)
> 
> TY  - JOUR
> AN  - WOS:000261796800032
> AU  - Backus, E. H. G.
> AU  - Garrett-Roe, S.
> AU  - Hamm, P.
> DA  - Nov
> DO  - 10.1364/ol.33.002665
> J2  - Opt. Lett.
> M1  - 22
> N1  - Times Cited: 18
> Backus, Ellen H. G. Garrett-Roe, Sean Hamm, Peter
> PY  - 2008
> SN  - 0146-9592
> SP  - 2665-2667
> ST  - Phasing problem of heterodyne-detected two-dimensional infrared 
> spectroscopy
> T2  - Optics Letters
> TI  - Phasing problem of heterodyne-detected two-dimensional infrared 
> spectroscopy
> UR  - ://WOS:000261796800032
> VL  - 33
> ID  - 43
> ER  - 
> 
> 
> Then 
> 
> [ ]$ open -a Bibdesk input.txt 
> 
> Gives
> 
> Output: (output.bib)
> 
> 
> %% This BibTeX bibliography file was created using BibDesk.
> %% http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/
> 
> 
> %% Created for Sean Garrett-Roe at 2012-06-01 18:14:13 -0400 
> 
> 
> %% Saved with string encoding Unicode (UTF-8) 
> 
> 
> 
> @article{cite-key,
>An = {WOS:000261796800032},
>Annote = {Times Cited: 18 Backus, Ellen H. G. Garrett-Roe, Sean Hamm, 
> Peter},
>Author = {Backus, E. H. G. and Garrett-Roe, S. and Hamm, P.},
>Booktitle = {Optics Letters},
>Da = {Nov},
>Date-Added = {2012-06-01 22:13:33 +},
>Date-Modified = {2012-06-01 22:13:33 +},
>Doi = {10.1364/ol.33.002665},
>Id = {43},
>Isbn = {0146-9592},
>J2 = {Opt. Lett.},
>M1 = {22},
>Sp = {2665-2667},
>St = {Phasing problem of heterodyne-detected two-dimensional infrared 
> spectroscopy},
>Title = {Phasing problem of heterodyne-detected two-dimensional 
> infrared spectroscopy},
>Ty = {JOUR},
>Url = {://WOS:000261796800032},
>Volume = {33},
>Year = {2008},
>Bdsk-Url-1 = {%3CGo%20to%20ISI%3E://WOS:000261796800032},
>Bdsk-Url-2 = {http://dx.doi.org/10.1364/ol.33.002665}}
> 
> 
> Note that Journal and Pages are empty. The Journal field I can fix by 
> changing J2 in the input (alt journal) to JA
> 
> [ ]$ cat input.txt | perl -pi -e 's/J2/JA/g' > testy.txt && open -a Bibdesk 
> testy.txt
> 
> But the SP field (Pages in EN RIS Documentation.xls for Type Generic and 
> Journal Article) isn't recognized. I've tried BP and EP but that didn't work 
> either. What field tag is Bibdesk expecting? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Sean

Well, quite frankly, their definitions are a bit inconsistent between places 
and times. Whenever we fix it they seem to have changed it later on.

Christiaan



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working

2007-11-02 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
Of course I fully disagree with their remark that "the developer  
should be familiar with Wiley". In fact, the problem is not about  
knowing their quirks. The problem is that their broken format does  
not give a way to recognize it as RIS, and distinguish it from some  
similar formats, such as PubMed. They don't add *any* identifying  
characteristic.

Christiaan

On 2 Nov 2007, at 5:06 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote:

> Hi Christian,
>
> thanks for your answer. I just chatted with a support guy named Peter
> Phillips at Wiley, I thought you'd might be interested in their not so
> supportive attitude (my favorite is the bit on the software vendor
> supposed to be familiar with wiley):
>
> --snip--
> [I explain the problem]
>
> Peter Phillips: You are correct, there is no TY field, but I cannot
> see that we populate this field with any of our citations.
> Peter Phillips: Your software vendor should be familiar with the
> citation format used by Wiley InterScience and should be able to
> supply the correct filters to import our data into their software.
> Bertolt: Well, but the TY field is standard in the RIS specification.
> Maybe other reference managers can handle a missing TY, but bibdesk -
> the most popular BibTeX front end for the Mac - unfortunately cannot.
> The bibdesk developers claim that the TY field is a neccessity for
> proper RIS import (i can forward you their mail if you wish).
> Peter Phillips: We export citations in Plain Text and EndNote format.
> Bertolt: Well actually its RIS and EndNote format, yes.
> Peter Phillips: I will forward your comments onto our developers to
> see if they are aware of the specification you mention.
> Bertolt: Thank you very much. Most kind.
> Peter Phillips: Thank you for using Wiley InterScience Customer
> Support Live Chat.
> You will receive a transcript of this chat by email.
> When we have resolved your query, you will receive another email
> confirming the answer we have supplied.
> --snip--
>
> My bet is that I will either never hear from them again or that they
> will repeat the claim that software should support their non-TY-
> citations.
>
> Cheers,
> Bertolt
>
> Am 02.11.2007 um 15:20 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>
>> The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry
>> (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize
>> RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug
>> report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't
>> hold your breath, as they're commercial).
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from  
>>> Wiley
>>> InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page:
>>>
>>> http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/
>>> ABSTRACT
>>>
>>> I click on "Download Citation". On the following page, I select  
>>> Plain
>>> Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to
>>> my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously
>>> associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an
>>> empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file
>>> with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk ->
>>> Add
>>> to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I
>>> missing?
>>>
>>> I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Bertolt
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bertolt Meyer
>>> Oberassistent
>>> Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich
>>> Sozialpsychologie
>>> Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15
>>> CH-8050 Zürich
>>>
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>>> fax:   +41446357279
>>> mob:   +41788966111
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working

2007-11-02 Thread Bertolt Meyer 
Hi Christian,

thanks for your answer. I just chatted with a support guy named Peter  
Phillips at Wiley, I thought you'd might be interested in their not so  
supportive attitude (my favorite is the bit on the software vendor  
supposed to be familiar with wiley):

--snip--
[I explain the problem]

Peter Phillips: You are correct, there is no TY field, but I cannot  
see that we populate this field with any of our citations.
Peter Phillips: Your software vendor should be familiar with the  
citation format used by Wiley InterScience and should be able to  
supply the correct filters to import our data into their software.
Bertolt: Well, but the TY field is standard in the RIS specification.  
Maybe other reference managers can handle a missing TY, but bibdesk -  
the most popular BibTeX front end for the Mac - unfortunately cannot.  
The bibdesk developers claim that the TY field is a neccessity for  
proper RIS import (i can forward you their mail if you wish).
Peter Phillips: We export citations in Plain Text and EndNote format.
Bertolt: Well actually its RIS and EndNote format, yes.
Peter Phillips: I will forward your comments onto our developers to  
see if they are aware of the specification you mention.
Bertolt: Thank you very much. Most kind.
Peter Phillips: Thank you for using Wiley InterScience Customer  
Support Live Chat.
You will receive a transcript of this chat by email.
When we have resolved your query, you will receive another email  
confirming the answer we have supplied.
--snip--

My bet is that I will either never hear from them again or that they  
will repeat the claim that software should support their non-TY- 
citations.

Cheers,
Bertolt

Am 02.11.2007 um 15:20 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

> The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry
> (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize
> RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug
> report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't
> hold your breath, as they're commercial).
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley
>> InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page:
>>
>> http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ 
>> ABSTRACT
>>
>> I click on "Download Citation". On the following page, I select Plain
>> Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to
>> my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously
>> associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an
>> empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file
>> with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk ->  
>> Add
>> to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I
>> missing?
>>
>> I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Bertolt
>>
>> -- 
>> Bertolt Meyer
>> Oberassistent
>> Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich
>> Sozialpsychologie
>> Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15
>> CH-8050 Zürich
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> tel:   +41446357282
>> fax:   +41446357279
>> mob:   +41788966111
>>
>
>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working

2007-11-02 Thread Adam R. Maxwell 
In addition, point them to the public RIS specification at 
http://www.refman.com/support/risformat_intro.asp 
, which is what we used in developing that criteria.

adam

On Nov 2, 2007, at 7:20 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

> The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry
> (publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize
> RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug
> report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't
> hold your breath, as they're commercial).
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley
>> InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page:
>>
>> http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ 
>> ABSTRACT
>>
>> I click on "Download Citation". On the following page, I select Plain
>> Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to
>> my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously
>> associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an
>> empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file
>> with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk ->  
>> Add
>> to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I
>> missing?
>>
>> I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Bertolt
>>
>> -- 
>> Bertolt Meyer
>> Oberassistent
>> Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich
>> Sozialpsychologie
>> Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15
>> CH-8050 Zürich
>>
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>>
>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] RIS import from Wiley InterScience not working

2007-11-02 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
The RIS from that site is incomplete, it misses a TY entry  
(publication type). And that is precisely what we use to recognize  
RIS, so BibDesk cannot identify it as RIS. If you can I'd file a bug  
report with them and ask them to correct it in the future (but don't  
hold your breath, as they're commercial).

Christiaan

On 2 Nov 2007, at 2:40 PM, Bertolt Meyer wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am having trouble with importing RIS-formatted citations from Wiley
> InterScience into bibdesk. For example: On this page:
>
> http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112417957/ABSTRACT
>
> I click on "Download Citation". On the following page, I select Plain
> Text/Citation/Mac and press ok. Safari then downloads a .RIS-file to
> my Download-Folder. It has a BibDesk-Icon so it is obviously
> associated with it. When I double-click the file in the Finder, an
> empty BibDesk-Window opens and nothing happens. When I open the file
> with a text editor (Smultron), highlight all and Select Bibdesk -> Add
> to Bibliography from the Services Menu, nothing happens. What am I
> missing?
>
> I use BibDesk 1.3.10 on MacOS 10.5.0.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Bertolt
>
> -- 
> Bertolt Meyer
> Oberassistent
> Psychologisches Institut Universität Zürich
> Sozialpsychologie
> Binzmühlestr. 14 / 1, Box 15
> CH-8050 Zürich
>
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