Re: Random nx name queries, anyone see this before?

2008-12-15 Thread Frank Behrens
ponga2...@gmail.com  wrote on 15 Dec 2008 16:34:
> I'd be very interested in what others find. I do have an update and
> correction to my original post:
> 
> The format is 9chars.8chars - as an example:
> qjnqrtfun.wxsifmgj
> Sometimes a colon appears, so the char list seems to be [a-z:]
> Also, I was wrong about the FQDN - they do appear in named/bind logs -
> so whatever app it is, the suffix search order is being used. My
> apologies for the incorrect info the first time.
> 
> Thre are a couple clients that do this - so thanks for the tip AlanC,
> I will look for a pattern. Other than that, I'm stumped. Thanks for
> any hints provided!!

Is it possible that a bot net tries to connect?
http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/Botnet-rises-again--/news/112118

I don't want to make a panic, it's an idea only...


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Re: MIME garbage in comp.protocols.dns.bind

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

In message <_aednq2trrolj9runz2dnuvz_tlin...@posted.hiwaay2>, Chris Adams write
s:
> Once upon a time, Mark Andrews   said:
> > I've raised a ticket with our ops people.
> 
> While you are at it, could you see about fixing the Usenet threading?
> It appears messages from the mail-to-news gateway get the Message-ID:
> changed (often a bad idea) BUT the gateway doesn't update the
> References: header at the same time.
> 
> Any time the Message-ID header is changed, the gateway should keep a
> list of old->new Message-IDs.  On future posts, the References header
> should be split and any known old Message-IDs should be changed to the
> new Message-IDs.
> 
> Alternately, don't change Message-IDs in the first place.

Raised second ticket.
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Re: Random nx name queries, anyone see this before?

2008-12-15 Thread ponga2112
I'd be very interested in what others find. I do have an update and
correction to my original post:

The format is 9chars.8chars - as an example:
qjnqrtfun.wxsifmgj
Sometimes a colon appears, so the char list seems to be [a-z:]
Also, I was wrong about the FQDN - they do appear in named/bind logs -
so whatever app it is, the suffix search order is being used. My
apologies for the incorrect info the first time.

Thre are a couple clients that do this - so thanks for the tip AlanC,
I will look for a pattern. Other than that, I'm stumped. Thanks for
any hints provided!!

ponga

On Dec 15, 3:05 pm, Alan Clegg  wrote:
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> ponga2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm seeing name queries from a couple clients on the network that
> > occur around every two minutes - the queries are evidently random and
> > are looking for A IN records of this form, as an example:
> >=20
> > ungzbvyf.lzghmccim
> >=20
> > They always look like this, 8 lowercase chars, dot, then 9 lowercase
> > chars - never an FQDN.
> > I can't find what this might be - has anyone seen this before or have
> > any ideas?
>
> I've seen this and told a couple of people, but nobody has really shown
> interest.
>
> In addition to the regular format that you see, I've also picked up a
> pattern when you start seeing the queries from multiple sources...
>
> I'll be more than happy to start collecting data again if anyone has
> interest.
>
> AlanC
>
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Re: MIME garbage in comp.protocols.dns.bind

2008-12-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Mark Andrews   said:
>   I've raised a ticket with our ops people.

While you are at it, could you see about fixing the Usenet threading?
It appears messages from the mail-to-news gateway get the Message-ID:
changed (often a bad idea) BUT the gateway doesn't update the
References: header at the same time.

Any time the Message-ID header is changed, the gateway should keep a
list of old->new Message-IDs.  On future posts, the References header
should be split and any known old Message-IDs should be changed to the
new Message-IDs.

Alternately, don't change Message-IDs in the first place.

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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Milo Hyson
Thanks for the tip. I've asked those with the proper authority to  
verify the registrar's records.


I must admit that I find it unusual that this needs to be done. In my  
experience, the glue records automatically change when a domain's name  
servers are altered. However, I have never worked with this particular  
registrar before, so perhaps they do things differently. Regardless,  
thanks again. :)


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On Dec 15, 2008, at 16:05, Mark Andrews wrote:



You need to contact the registar for netdentalcare.com and
update the HOST record for ns.netdentalcare.com to have the
new address record.  This changes what GLUE is published
in the COM zone.

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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

You need to contact the registar for netdentalcare.com and
update the HOST record for ns.netdentalcare.com to have the
new address record.  This changes what GLUE is published
in the COM zone.

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Re: ISC BIND Windows?

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

In message <029c7576bb4b4f1480bf8cf9d125a...@nc4010>, "Jukka Pakkanen" writes:
> Sorry I've lost track of the different versions, which works in Windows and 
> which don't.
> 
> So... what is the latest version, working in W2K3?

See the "immediate downloads" on https://www.isc.org/software/bind.

> And Is W2K still abandoned?

Until Microsoft back port the missing functionality, yes.

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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Milo Hyson

They've been changed for days:

> ns.netdentalcare.com.
Server: ns1.idaserver.com.
Address:207.178.132.75#53


QUESTIONS:
ns.netdentalcare.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
->  ns.netdentalcare.com
internet address = 207.178.132.75
AUTHORITY RECORDS:
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:

Name:   ns.netdentalcare.com
Address: 207.178.132.75

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On Dec 15, 2008, at 15:43, Mark Andrews wrote:


You need to update the HOST records for the nameservers.


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Re: ISC BIND Windows?

2008-12-15 Thread Evan Hunt

> Sorry I've lost track of the different versions, which works in Windows and 
> which don't.
> 
> So... what is the latest version, working in W2K3?  And Is W2K still 
> abandoned?

9.3.6, 9.4.3, or 9.5.0-P2-W2 (which is soon to be supplanted by 9.5.1,
currently in release-candidate status, as is 9.6.0).

And yes, win2k is still unsupported.

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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Milo Hyson
Absolutely. Note the listed authoritative servers in the snippet I  
included. Those are the new ones.


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On Dec 15, 2008, at 15:40, David Ford wrote:


did you update the ns records with your registrar?

Milo Hyson wrote:
I'm seeing what looks like a stuck glue record in the GTLD servers  
and

I'm hoping I've just overlooked something simple. There are several
domains which list the following as their nameservers:




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Re: Stats collection script for BIND 9.5 (and greater?)

2008-12-15 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:18:21 +0100,
Alexander Gall  wrote:

> > http://members.iinet.com.au/~pyard...@ihug.com.au/#%5B%5BBIND%209.5%20DNS%20Stats%5D%5D
> 
> This looks useful, thanks.  However, ISC has chosen to change some
> tags in 9.6.0rc1 (nsstats -> nsstat, zonestats -> zonestat, resstats ->
> resstat).  Unfortunately, they didn't bump the version of their XML
> schema (it's still reported as 1.0 in the  tag), so it's hard to
> do right.  I hope this is going to be fixed in the final 9.6.0
> release.

9.6.0rc2 (and 9.5.1rc2) will soon be released (and I don't think we
can make a change to these versions unless it's a fatal bug).

So, if this is a crucial fix to be incorporated in the final release
we don't have much time.  Just out of curiosity, how crucial do you
think it is to bump the version?  My understanding is that bumping the
version will help if we keep supporting the first version for a
reasonably long period, while chasing newer versions.  Realistically,
however, I suspect most users (especially those using advanced
management tools like this script) will move to 9.5.1 (or 9.6.0)
anyway, since 9.5.0 and its P1/P2 variants have other problems:
vulnerability to the Kaminsky attack (in case of vanilla 9.5.0),
performance issues due to file descriptor limitations, ACL
crash/memory leak, cache memory management bug, etc.

*If* we could assume no one realistically continues to stick to 9.5.0,
wouldn't it be simpler just to drop the old format and migrate to the
new one? (I understand the migration itself is a pain, and I apologize
for the inconvenience.  As I said in a response to a different thread,
we'll try to avoid happening in future releases).

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ISC BIND Windows?

2008-12-15 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
Sorry I've lost track of the different versions, which works in Windows and 
which don't.


So... what is the latest version, working in W2K3?  And Is W2K still 
abandoned?



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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

In message , Milo Hyson
 writes:
> I'm seeing what looks like a stuck glue record in the GTLD servers and  
> I'm hoping I've just overlooked something simple. There are several  
> domains which list the following as their nameservers:
> 
>   ns.netdentalcare.com
>   ns2.netdentalcare.com
> 
> The zone for these (netdentalcare.com) was moved to a new ISP several  
> days ago. The new servers are properly resolving the names and the old  
> servers no longer are. Unfortunately, nobody can seem to resolve these  
> names unless they directly ask the new servers. Upon investigation, I  
> discovered the GTLD servers seem to be holding onto a stale glue  
> record for the zone's prior server:
> 
>  > ns.netdentalcare.com.
> Server:   h.gtld-servers.net.
> Address:  192.54.112.30#53
> 
> 
>  QUESTIONS:
>   ns.netdentalcare.com, type = A, class = IN
>  ANSWERS:
>  ->  ns.netdentalcare.com
>   internet address = 64.84.39.197
>  AUTHORITY RECORDS:
>  ->  netdentalcare.com
>   nameserver = ns1.idaserver.com.
>  ->  netdentalcare.com
>   nameserver = ns2.idaserver.com.
>  ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
>  ->  ns1.idaserver.com
>   internet address = 207.178.132.75
>  ->  ns2.idaserver.com
>   internet address = 207.178.132.76
> 
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name: ns.netdentalcare.com
> Address: 64.84.39.197
> 
> I assumed this would have timed-out after two-days, but it hasn't.  
> Nobody is resolving the name to that address anymore. I checked the  
> old zone file to ensure it didn't have a long TTL and it didn't  
> (86,400 seconds).
> 
> If anybody has any insight into this issue it would be greatly  
> appreciated.

You need to update the HOST records for the nameservers.
 
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Re: Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread David Ford
did you update the ns records with your registrar?

Milo Hyson wrote:
> I'm seeing what looks like a stuck glue record in the GTLD servers and
> I'm hoping I've just overlooked something simple. There are several
> domains which list the following as their nameservers:

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Stuck glue records in the GTLD servers??

2008-12-15 Thread Milo Hyson
I'm seeing what looks like a stuck glue record in the GTLD servers and  
I'm hoping I've just overlooked something simple. There are several  
domains which list the following as their nameservers:


ns.netdentalcare.com
ns2.netdentalcare.com

The zone for these (netdentalcare.com) was moved to a new ISP several  
days ago. The new servers are properly resolving the names and the old  
servers no longer are. Unfortunately, nobody can seem to resolve these  
names unless they directly ask the new servers. Upon investigation, I  
discovered the GTLD servers seem to be holding onto a stale glue  
record for the zone's prior server:


> ns.netdentalcare.com.
Server: h.gtld-servers.net.
Address:192.54.112.30#53


QUESTIONS:
ns.netdentalcare.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
->  ns.netdentalcare.com
internet address = 64.84.39.197
AUTHORITY RECORDS:
->  netdentalcare.com
nameserver = ns1.idaserver.com.
->  netdentalcare.com
nameserver = ns2.idaserver.com.
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
->  ns1.idaserver.com
internet address = 207.178.132.75
->  ns2.idaserver.com
internet address = 207.178.132.76

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   ns.netdentalcare.com
Address: 64.84.39.197

I assumed this would have timed-out after two-days, but it hasn't.  
Nobody is resolving the name to that address anymore. I checked the  
old zone file to ensure it didn't have a long TTL and it didn't  
(86,400 seconds).


If anybody has any insight into this issue it would be greatly  
appreciated.


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Re: Bind 9.6.0b1 xml stats - changes?

2008-12-15 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:12:49 -0800,
"D. Stussy"  wrote:

> Using the same .xls page to format as I did with 9.5.1b1, some of the
> sections don't have data.  Something was altered between these two
> versions, but the release notes say NOTHING about any change to the
> statistics web server feature.
> 
> I found these affected statistics:
> - server/nsstats/*- renamed as /nsstat/
> - server/zonestats/* - renamed as /zonestat/
> - [views/view]/resstats/*  - renamed as /resstat/
> 
> Not everyone uses or necessarily wants to use the "bind9.xsl" file that
> comes with BIND as the display formatter.
> 
> Please, if the XML data changes in the future, it should be documented in
> the release notes.

You're absolutely right, and I apologize for your inconvenience.

Moreover, we understand it's very important to keep backward
compatibility for users of this type of published interfaces.  So,
we'll try to avoid introducing incompatible changes as much as
possible in future versions in the first place.

Regarding this change, it's a result of this fix:

2388.   [bug]   Avoid using tables for layout purposes in
statistics XSL [RT #18159].

as indicated by the change category ('[bug]'), we thought fixing this
issue was not just a style change, and it seemed to be the cleanest
way to change the data structure as part of the fix.  Ideally we
should have done such an incompatible try-and-error fix in a beta
version phase before a point-0 release, but in reality not many people
try to use pre-0 beta versions to identify problems like this one.

Again, we'll try to avoid incompatible changes as much as possible in
future versions of 9.5 (and probably in other 9.x versions).  It would
be highly appreciated if you could point it out in a beta or RC phase
in case we accidentally introduce incompatibility.

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Re: Random nx name queries, anyone see this before?

2008-12-15 Thread Alan Clegg
ponga2...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm seeing name queries from a couple clients on the network that
> occur around every two minutes - the queries are evidently random and
> are looking for A IN records of this form, as an example:
> 
> ungzbvyf.lzghmccim
> 
> They always look like this, 8 lowercase chars, dot, then 9 lowercase
> chars - never an FQDN.
> I can't find what this might be - has anyone seen this before or have
> any ideas?

I've seen this and told a couple of people, but nobody has really shown
interest.

In addition to the regular format that you see, I've also picked up a
pattern when you start seeing the queries from multiple sources...

I'll be more than happy to start collecting data again if anyone has
interest.

AlanC



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Random nx name queries, anyone see this before?

2008-12-15 Thread ponga2112
I'm seeing name queries from a couple clients on the network that
occur around every two minutes - the queries are evidently random and
are looking for A IN records of this form, as an example:

ungzbvyf.lzghmccim

They always look like this, 8 lowercase chars, dot, then 9 lowercase
chars - never an FQDN.
I can't find what this might be - has anyone seen this before or have
any ideas?

TIA,
ponga
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Re: Issue with case changing from master on BIND 9 to slave on BIND 8

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

Mark Andrews writes:
> 
> 
> 
> In message <9fc47420fb263da9eda170166fd4d...@cornell.edu>, John Wobus writes:
> > Some years ago, I had that issue.  The problem was that the
> > zone transfer compression mechanism could change the case
> > of individual names.  This was fixed in some release of bind
> > (after 9.2.1, if I remember correctly), and bind release notes
> > would pinpoint the exact version with the change.
> 
>   You will need BIND 9.4.0 or later for the master.
> 
> 1811.   [func]  Preserve the case of domain names in rdata during
> zone transfers. [RT #13547]
> 
>   Or you can specify many-answers as the transfer format
>   on the master.

Correction one-answer as the transfer format but there is still
a small risk if the a compression pointer can be found in the
owner name of the record with differing case,
 
> > The problem was that the compression mechanism would compress
> > a.example.COM and b.example.com by using a pointer to a single string,
> > in one specific instance, "example.COM".  When uncompressed
> > at at the secondary end, the names came out as a.example.COM and
> > b.example.COM.
> > 
> > John Wobus
> > Cornell University CIT
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ben Croswell wrote:
> > 
> > > I reaching out to the list on what appears to be a very odd issue that =
> > 
> > > happened over the weekend.
> > > We had an issue where some internal domains had the TLD capitalized =
> > 
> > > after the zone transfer.
> > > i.e. foo.bar.com on the master became foo.bar.COM on the slave.
> > >  I know that DNS is case insensitive but it caused an issue with apps =
> > 
> > > that were misbehaving.
> > >
> > > The master is BIND 9.2.1 and the slaves in question are 8.2.3.
> > > The master zone has everything lower case, and BIND 9 slaves show them =
> > 
> > > as lower case as well.
> > >  A manual zone xfer on the 8.2.3 boxes to a different local directory =
> > 
> > > than the actual named directory shows .COM.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone had experienced an issue like this.
> > >
> > > And I understand both of those version are ancient and need to be =
> > 
> > > removed=A0 from the environment.
> > >
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Re: Issue with case changing from master on BIND 9 to slave on BIND 8

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews



In message <9fc47420fb263da9eda170166fd4d...@cornell.edu>, John Wobus writes:
> Some years ago, I had that issue.  The problem was that the
> zone transfer compression mechanism could change the case
> of individual names.  This was fixed in some release of bind
> (after 9.2.1, if I remember correctly), and bind release notes
> would pinpoint the exact version with the change.

You will need BIND 9.4.0 or later for the master.

1811.   [func]  Preserve the case of domain names in rdata during
zone transfers. [RT #13547]

Or you can specify many-answers as the transfer format
on the master.

> The problem was that the compression mechanism would compress
> a.example.COM and b.example.com by using a pointer to a single string,
> in one specific instance, "example.COM".  When uncompressed
> at at the secondary end, the names came out as a.example.COM and
> b.example.COM.
> 
> John Wobus
> Cornell University CIT
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ben Croswell wrote:
> 
> > I reaching out to the list on what appears to be a very odd issue that =
> 
> > happened over the weekend.
> > We had an issue where some internal domains had the TLD capitalized =
> 
> > after the zone transfer.
> > i.e. foo.bar.com on the master became foo.bar.COM on the slave.
> >  I know that DNS is case insensitive but it caused an issue with apps =
> 
> > that were misbehaving.
> >
> > The master is BIND 9.2.1 and the slaves in question are 8.2.3.
> > The master zone has everything lower case, and BIND 9 slaves show them =
> 
> > as lower case as well.
> >  A manual zone xfer on the 8.2.3 boxes to a different local directory =
> 
> > than the actual named directory shows .COM.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had experienced an issue like this.
> >
> > And I understand both of those version are ancient and need to be =
> 
> > removed=A0 from the environment.
> >
> > -- =
> 
> > -Ben Croswell
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Re: MIME garbage in comp.protocols.dns.bind

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Andrews

In message , Sam Wilson wri
tes:
> In article ,
>  Chris Buxton  wrote:
> 
> > On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > > The old mail-to-news gateway either got this right or
> > > extracted the plain text alternative before forwarding.
> > 
> > The old mail server stripped messages down to their plaintext values.  
> > The new one does not - it allows both formatted text and attachments.  
> > This is no doubt the change that's causing this problem with usenet.
> 
> But it's doing it wrong - it's removing some MIME headers that it 
> shouldn't.  (I will defer to other people if there is a mismatch in what 
> is acceptable in MIME headers on Usenet, but the old one worked and the 
> new one creates unreadable news postings.)
> 
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I've raised a ticket with our ops people.

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Re: 50 million records under one domain using Bind

2008-12-15 Thread Scott Haneda
Out of curiosity, if one zone is to hold 50 million records, what  
would they all be for? I can't even imagine blogspot or godaddy being  
in that league.


Perhaps with this many records just using a wldcard would be simpler?

Then again maybe this is a new tld, or old one being consolidated?

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On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:37 AM, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 @isc.org> wrote:



At Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:57 +0530,
"Vinay Y S"  wrote:


I am studying the scalability and performance characteristics of
different DNS servers. Goal is to find the best suitable server to
host a single domain with 50 million records. I am planning to  
install

Fedora 10 x86_64 on a 32GB RAM machine and use the Bind that comes
with it for this experiment.

If you have any suggestions or comments regarding how to accomplish
this with Bind, it would be greatly helpful.

Specifically, I would like to know what build or config options I
would have to tweak to make it work best for this scale.


If you plan to use a plain zone file for the 50 million records,
rather than using a separate backend database, you may want to
precompile your zone file by named-compilezone.  It will make load
time twice as short as it is with the plain text format.

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Re: 50 million records under one domain using Bind

2008-12-15 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:09:57 +0530,
"Vinay Y S"  wrote:

> I am studying the scalability and performance characteristics of
> different DNS servers. Goal is to find the best suitable server to
> host a single domain with 50 million records. I am planning to install
> Fedora 10 x86_64 on a 32GB RAM machine and use the Bind that comes
> with it for this experiment.
> 
> If you have any suggestions or comments regarding how to accomplish
> this with Bind, it would be greatly helpful.
> 
> Specifically, I would like to know what build or config options I
> would have to tweak to make it work best for this scale.

If you plan to use a plain zone file for the 50 million records,
rather than using a separate backend database, you may want to
precompile your zone file by named-compilezone.  It will make load
time twice as short as it is with the plain text format.

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Re: Issue with case changing from master on BIND 9 to slave on BIND 8

2008-12-15 Thread John Wobus

Some years ago, I had that issue.  The problem was that the
zone transfer compression mechanism could change the case
of individual names.  This was fixed in some release of bind
(after 9.2.1, if I remember correctly), and bind release notes
would pinpoint the exact version with the change.

The problem was that the compression mechanism would compress
a.example.COM and b.example.com by using a pointer to a single string,
in one specific instance, "example.COM".  When uncompressed
at at the secondary end, the names came out as a.example.COM and
b.example.COM.

John Wobus
Cornell University CIT


On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ben Croswell wrote:

I reaching out to the list on what appears to be a very odd issue that 
happened over the weekend.
We had an issue where some internal domains had the TLD capitalized 
after the zone transfer.

i.e. foo.bar.com on the master became foo.bar.COM on the slave.
 I know that DNS is case insensitive but it caused an issue with apps 
that were misbehaving.


The master is BIND 9.2.1 and the slaves in question are 8.2.3.
The master zone has everything lower case, and BIND 9 slaves show them 
as lower case as well.
 A manual zone xfer on the 8.2.3 boxes to a different local directory 
than the actual named directory shows .COM.


I was wondering if anyone had experienced an issue like this.

And I understand both of those version are ancient and need to be 
removed  from the environment.


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Re: bind memory usage

2008-12-15 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , sch...@adi.com (Thomas Schulz) 
wrote:

> In article ,
> =?UTF-8?B?TGVvbmFyZG8gUm9kcmlndWVzIE1hZ2FsaMOjZXM=?=
> wrote:
> >[base64 guff]
> 
> 
> You know, the above is not very usefull.  Can someone please fix the
> newsgroup gateway.

The content is below.  I forward it only because it's actually concrete 
result that might be useful to someone.

Sam



I just test bind 9.5.0-P2 and 9.5.1-rc1

Bind 9.5.0-P2 allocate over 2Gb per 10 minutes of work.
Bind 9.5.1 allocate 2Gb per 30 hours.

14.12.2008,  2:15, JINMEI Tatuya / 
<9E><98><8E><81><94>
<93><89> 
<81>():

> At Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:50:52 -0200,
> Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhes  wrote:
>
>>i'm trying to run bind 9.5.0-P2 on a very low memory system.  
>> It's a
>> RouterBoard 450 with 32Mb RAM running OpenWRT.
>>
>> r...@sede:~# cat /proc/meminfo
>> MemTotal:29920 kB
>>
>>the problem is that bind seems to consume a LOT of memory ...  
>> well,
>> a lot for low memory devices, i never noticed that on machines with  
>> BS
>> of RAM.
>
> [snip]
>
>>question is  is there something i can do to low bind's memory
>> usage and successfully run it on those very low embedded devices ???
>
> Admittedly, BIND9 tends to require a lot of memory.  I'm not sure if
> it can reasonably function with a total system memory of 32MB.
>
> Some related points:
> - if you enable threads, disable them.  With the thread support BIND9
>  will require even more memory.
> - "max-cache-size 1048576" is a meaningless configuration:
> Any positive values less than 2MB will be ignored reset
> to 2MB.
>  (from ARM)
> - 'rndc flush' doesn't release allocated system memory.  It just
>  frees all cache entries within the BIND9 process, so it's not
>  surprising that you didn't see the memory footprint decrease after
>  the flush operation.
>
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Re: Stats collection script for BIND 9.5 (and greater?)

2008-12-15 Thread Alexander Gall
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:12:21 +1100, Peter Yardley  said:

> I have written a script to collect data from the XML stats channel of a
> Bind 9.5+ DNS server. It works with Cricket and should work with MRTG
> and Cacti.

> You can get it here...

> http://members.iinet.com.au/~pyard...@ihug.com.au/

> in the projects section under 'Bind 9.5 DNS Stats', or this is the
> direct link...

> http://members.iinet.com.au/~pyard...@ihug.com.au/#%5B%5BBIND%209.5%20DNS%20Stats%5D%5D

This looks useful, thanks.  However, ISC has chosen to change some
tags in 9.6.0rc1 (nsstats -> nsstat, zonestats -> zonestat, resstats ->
resstat).  Unfortunately, they didn't bump the version of their XML
schema (it's still reported as 1.0 in the  tag), so it's hard to
do right.  I hope this is going to be fixed in the final 9.6.0
release.

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Issue with case changing from master on BIND 9 to slave on BIND 8

2008-12-15 Thread Ben Croswell
I reaching out to the list on what appears to be a very odd issue that
happened over the weekend.
We had an issue where some internal domains had the TLD capitalized after
the zone transfer.
i.e. foo.bar.com on the master became foo.bar.COM on the slave.
I know that DNS is case insensitive but it caused an issue with apps that
were misbehaving.

The master is BIND 9.2.1 and the slaves in question are 8.2.3.
The master zone has everything lower case, and BIND 9 slaves show them as
lower case as well.
A manual zone xfer on the 8.2.3 boxes to a different local directory than
the actual named directory shows .COM.

I was wondering if anyone had experienced an issue like this.

And I understand both of those version are ancient and need to be removed
from the environment.

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Re: bind memory usage

2008-12-15 Thread Thomas Schulz
In article ,
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You know, the above is not very usefull.  Can someone please fix the
newsgroup gateway.
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Re: bind memory usage

2008-12-15 Thread Дмитрий Рыбин

I just test bind 9.5.0-P2 and 9.5.1-rc1

Bind 9.5.0-P2 allocate over 2Gb per 10 minutes of work.
Bind 9.5.1 allocate 2Gb per 30 hours.

14.12.2008, в 2:15, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 написал(а):


At Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:50:52 -0200,
Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães  wrote:

   i'm trying to run bind 9.5.0-P2 on a very low memory system.  
It's a

RouterBoard 450 with 32Mb RAM running OpenWRT.

r...@sede:~# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:29920 kB

   the problem is that bind seems to consume a LOT of memory ...  
well,
a lot for low memory devices, i never noticed that on machines with  
BS

of RAM.


[snip]


   question is  is there something i can do to low bind's memory
usage and successfully run it on those very low embedded devices ???


Admittedly, BIND9 tends to require a lot of memory.  I'm not sure if
it can reasonably function with a total system memory of 32MB.

Some related points:
- if you enable threads, disable them.  With the thread support BIND9
 will require even more memory.
- "max-cache-size 1048576" is a meaningless configuration:
Any positive values less than 2MB will be ignored reset
to 2MB.
 (from ARM)
- 'rndc flush' doesn't release allocated system memory.  It just
 frees all cache entries within the BIND9 process, so it's not
 surprising that you didn't see the memory footprint decrease after
 the flush operation.

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Re: MIME garbage in comp.protocols.dns.bind

2008-12-15 Thread Sam Wilson
In article ,
 Chris Buxton  wrote:

> On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Barry Margolin wrote:
> > The old mail-to-news gateway either got this right or
> > extracted the plain text alternative before forwarding.
> 
> The old mail server stripped messages down to their plaintext values.  
> The new one does not - it allows both formatted text and attachments.  
> This is no doubt the change that's causing this problem with usenet.

But it's doing it wrong - it's removing some MIME headers that it 
shouldn't.  (I will defer to other people if there is a mismatch in what 
is acceptable in MIME headers on Usenet, but the old one worked and the 
new one creates unreadable news postings.)

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Re: MIME garbage in comp.protocols.dns.bind

2008-12-15 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , sch...@adi.com (Thomas Schulz) 
wrote:

> I was wondering what was going on.  Some messages are just base64 and are
> completely useless/unreadable.

If you have mimencode you could try this:

$ mimencode -u  > /tmp/weird ; less /tmp/weird 

On Mac OS X and other systems with the right perl module this works 
(make sure there's no line break):

$ perl -MMIME::Base64 -ne 'print decode_base64($_)' > /tmp/weird ; less 
/tmp/weird 

Run the command, copy and paste the text of the duff message and then 
ctrl-D it and, hey presto, a readable message.  If you already have a 
/tmp/weird on your system then change the file name.

Yes, I know you shouldn't have to... :-)

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Re: dnsperf and BIND memory consumption

2008-12-15 Thread Dmitry Rybin
Thank's to JINMEI Tatuya for support.
I have over 40 views, defined in named.conf, max-memory for cache -
32Mb. Named daemon allocate over 2 Gb per 24 hours of work.

Have you any ideas how to limit memory usage?

Dmitry Rybin wrote:
> max-cache-size 64M;
> # /usr/bin/limits -v 1200M /usr/local/sbin/named-test -c
> /etc/namedb/named.conf
>
> Over 10 minutes of work and core dumped:
>
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x0058c3fc in thr_kill ()
> #1  0x005c5a68 in abort ()
> #2  0x00597af7 in malloc ()
> #3  0x0056645a in isc_mem_createx2 (init_max_size=0, target_size=0,
> memalloc=0x564400 , memfree=0x563320
> , arg=0x0,
> ctxp=0xcb29b978, flags=Variable "flags" is not available.
> ) at mem.c:790
> #4  0x00566730 in isc_mem_create (init_max_size=Variable
> "init_max_size" is not available.
> ) at mem.c:859
> #5  0x004d83ae in dns_resolver_create (view=0xca46e800,
> taskmgr=0x80828000,
> ntasks=31, socketmgr=Variable "socketmgr" is not available.
> ) at resolver.c:6514
> #6  0x004ee860 in dns_view_createresolver (view=0xca46e800,
> taskmgr=0x80828000,
> ntasks=31, socketmgr=0x8082b000, timermgr=0x80829000, options=0,
> dispatchmgr=0x8083c000,
> dispatchv4=0x864c9000, dispatchv6=0x864c9800) at view.c:580
> #7  0x0041bba2 in configure_view (view=0xca46e800,
> config=0x80abb4c0,
> vconfig=0x8085ada8, mctx=0x8080d140, actx=0x7eff8860,
> need_hints=isc_boolean_true)
> at server.c:1290
> #8  0x00420f42 in load_configuration (filename=Variable
> "filename" is not available.
> ) at server.c:3285
> #9  0x00422095 in loadconfig (server=0x8082f000) at server.c:4121
> #10 0x00422426 in reload (server=0x8082f000) at server.c:4141
> #11 0x004225c2 in ns_server_reloadcommand (server=0x8082f000,
> args=Variable "args" is not available.
> ) at server.c:4334
> #12 0x00407682 in ns_control_docommand (message=Variable
> "message" is not available.
> ) at control.c:102
> #13 0x0040a8b7 in control_recvmessage (task=0x80839000,
> event=Variable "event" is not available.
> ) at controlconf.c:456
> #14 0x0057052c in run (uap=Variable "uap" is not available.
> ) at task.c:862
> #15 0x005868a7 in thread_start ()
> #16 0x in ?? ()
> Cannot access memory at address 0x7eff9000
>
>
>
> JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote:
>   
>> At Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:50:22 +0300,
>> Dmitry Rybin  wrote:
>> 
>>> JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote:
>>>   
 At Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:05:27 +0300,
 Dmitry Rybin  wrote:

 
> I test patch, add to bind95/Makefile
> .if (${ARCH} == "amd64")
> ARCH=   x86_64
> .endif
>   
 Future versions of BIND9 will support amd64 in its configure script to
 workaround the FreeBSD port for amd64.

 Regarding the memory leak, I believe it's already solved in 9.5.1rc1
 (even with threads and without atomic).
 
>>> I just make port bind 9.5.1rc1. It has same problem with memory leak.
>>> It grows from 670M on startup, to 1,4Gb after 20 minutes of work.
>>>   
>> Can you first fall back to the vanilla 9.5.1rc1 (i.e., not FreeBSD
>> port) so that we can separate FreeBSD-port specific issue and BIND9
>> specific leak?
>>
>> Second, what if you stop named by 'rndc stop'?  If there's memory leak
>> in BIND9, it normally detects it during a cleanup process and
>> indicates the bug by aborting (core dumping) itself.
>>
>> If it doesn't cause an abort, please then try the diagnosing I
>> suggested before:
>> http://marc.info/?l=bind-users&m=121811979629090&w=2
>>  
>> To summarize it:
>>
>> 1. create a symbolic link from "/etc/malloc.conf" to "X":
>># ln -s X /etc/malloc.conf
>> 2. - start named with a moderate limitation of virtual memory size, e.g.
>># /usr/bin/limits -v 384m $path_to_named/named 
>> (note that "384m" should be reasonably large compared with
>> max-cache-size.  I'd suggest setting max-cache-size to 128M and
>> setting 'limits -v' to 512m).
>> 3. Then the named process will eventually abort itself with a core dump
>>due to malloc failure.  Please show us the stack trace at that point.
>>Hopefully it will reveal the malloc call that keeps consuming memory.
>>
>> In fact, I myself successfully identified one leak in 9.5.0-P2 with
>> FreeBSD port this way.
>>
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>> 
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Re: Where is the open recursion test?

2008-12-15 Thread Gregory Hicks

> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:52:01 +0100
> From: Peter Dambier 
> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: Where is the open recursion test?
> X-FuHaFi: 0.62
> 
> just try
> 
> dig -t any peter-dambier.de @
> 
> If it tells you something about denic it is not recursive.
> If you get the complete answer it is very likely recursive.
> 
> Something internal could have triggered the query but only
> if your server is in /etc/resolv.conf.

Peter:

Thanks!  I ran that and got a full response back.  Then I remembered
that you cannot check on recursiveness from a trusted interface...

I went to my ISP (alt email provider) and ran

well% dig -t any peter-dambier.de @64.139.55.108

; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> -t peter-dambier.de @64.139.55.108 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; res_send to server 64.139.55.108: Connection timed out

"Connection timed out" is expected.  Means that the ACLs are working.

Just to make sure, lets test for something that CAN be resolved:

well% dig metis.hicks-net.net @64.139.55.108

; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> metis.hicks-net.net @64.139.55.108 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 3, Addit: 1
;; QUESTIONS:
;;  metis.hicks-net.net, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
metis.hicks-net.net.3600A   64.139.55.108

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
hicks-net.net.  3600NS  ns1.xname.org.
hicks-net.net.  3600NS  ns0.xname.org.
hicks-net.net.  3600NS  ns.hicks-net.net.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
ns.hicks-net.net.   3600A   64.139.55.108

;; FROM: well to SERVER: 64.139.55.108
;; WHEN: Mon Dec 15 02:57:50 2008
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 37  rcvd: 131

well% 

That worked also.  (I got the expected results...  Yay!)

Again, thanks!

Regards,
Gregory Hicks

> 
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
> 
> Gregory Hicks wrote:
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:44:18 -0200
> >> From: Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães 
> >>
> >> Gregory Hicks escreveu:
> >>> Greetings:
> >>>
> >>> Seeing in my named.log entries for "too many timeouts resolving
> >>> ''..." makes me wonder if my server 
is an
> >>> open recursive server.
> >>>
> >>> Where is the test please for open recursion so I can check?
> >> http://dns.measurement-factory.com/cgi-bin/openresolvercheck.pl
> > 
> > Thanks!  But I tried that about 6 hours earlier today.  It said 
address
> > 64.139.55.108 had status "untested".  It also said that if I wanted 
my
> > address retested, make a TCP connection to
> > dns-surveyor.measurement-factory.com port 999 (e.g., with telnet) 
from
> > the address to be tested.  I did THAT also. So far, nothing.
> > 
> > Any other ideas?
[...]
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Re: Where is the open recursion test?

2008-12-15 Thread Peter Dambier
just try

dig -t any peter-dambier.de @

If it tells you something about denic it is not recursive.
If you get the complete answer it is very likely recursive.

Something internal could have triggered the query but only
if your server is in /etc/resolv.conf.

Kind regards
Peter


Gregory Hicks wrote:
>> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:44:18 -0200
>> From: Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães 
>>
>> Gregory Hicks escreveu:
>>> Greetings:
>>>
>>> Seeing in my named.log entries for "too many timeouts resolving
>>> ''..." makes me wonder if my server is an
>>> open recursive server.
>>>
>>> Where is the test please for open recursion so I can check?
>> http://dns.measurement-factory.com/cgi-bin/openresolvercheck.pl
> 
> Thanks!  But I tried that about 6 hours earlier today.  It said address
> 64.139.55.108 had status "untested".  It also said that if I wanted my
> address retested, make a TCP connection to
> dns-surveyor.measurement-factory.com port 999 (e.g., with telnet) from
> the address to be tested.  I did THAT also. So far, nothing.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> 
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Re: Where is the open recursion test?

2008-12-15 Thread Gregory Hicks

> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:44:18 -0200
> From: Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães 
> 
> Gregory Hicks escreveu:
> > Greetings:
> >
> > Seeing in my named.log entries for "too many timeouts resolving
> > ''..." makes me wonder if my server is an
> > open recursive server.
> >
> > Where is the test please for open recursion so I can check?
> 
> http://dns.measurement-factory.com/cgi-bin/openresolvercheck.pl

Thanks!  But I tried that about 6 hours earlier today.  It said address
64.139.55.108 had status "untested".  It also said that if I wanted my
address retested, make a TCP connection to
dns-surveyor.measurement-factory.com port 999 (e.g., with telnet) from
the address to be tested.  I did THAT also. So far, nothing.

Any other ideas?

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| Direct:   408.569.7928

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stand ready to do violence on their behalf -- George Orwell

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.  -- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Where is the open recursion test?

2008-12-15 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães



Gregory Hicks escreveu:

Greetings:

Seeing in my named.log entries for "too many timeouts resolving
''..." makes me wonder if my server is an
open recursive server.

Where is the test please for open recursion so I can check?

  


http://dns.measurement-factory.com/cgi-bin/openresolvercheck.pl

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