Re: [SPAM] Re: Split view multiple zones

2009-01-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 Of course I could just copy and paste all the zones also in 'custom' view 
 but it doubles the configuration size.

On 27.01.09 17:26, Chris Burton wrote:
 I've been using an include file for zones common between multiple views, it
 might help in your case too.

I'm afraid they won't eat the same memory, but each view its own memory.
Can anyone confirm, and if I'm right, tell me that it will be better in next
BIND releases?

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Re: Split view multiple zones

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 49800cfd.nihabiqjcalhfl+u%akos...@andykosela.com, Andy Kosela writ
es:
 Reinis Rozitis r...@roze.lv wrote:
 
   I've been using an include file for zones common between multiple 
   views, might help in your case too.
 
  Thanks somehow didnt think about this way. Pretty much takes to 
  acceptable solution :)
 
 Yes, include statement is the best option especially if you have a lot
 of zones.  That aproach also works great if you need to provide
 recursion for some of your clients *and* serve authoritative records for
 the rest of the world.  By creating multiple views you can also easily 
 disable answering queries for . to unknown clients.
 
 view internal {
   match-clients { LAN; };
   recursion yes;
   include zones;
 };
 
 view external {
   match-clients { any; };
   recursion no;
   additional-from-cache no;
   include zones;
 };

Or just run a currently supported version and specify

options {
allow-recursion { LAN; };
};

include zones;

and achieve the same thing for half the memory footprint and
not have to worry about different views clobbering the same
masterfiles.

Mark

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Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.01.09 10:18, Al Stu wrote:
 I not only say it, I have demonstrated it.

But you have demonstrated something different than we're discussing all the
time.

 BIND is the DNS system we are discussing.
 Have not looked to see if that specifically is spec'ed in an RFC.
 Yes other DNS implementations do return both the A and CNAME.

It depends on the query sent.
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Re: disableing EDNS messages bind-9.5.0

2009-01-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 Dean Clapper wrote:
 I'm trying to troubleshoot why we are getting a lot of disabling EDNS 
 messages in /var/log/messages.
 
 We are running bind-9.5.0.P2 on a linux box.
[...]
 Jan 27 11:43:39 ns0 named[27764]: too many timeouts resolving 
 '196.198.117.216.zen.spamhaus.org/A' (in 'zen.spamhaus.org'?): 
 disabling EDNS
 
 I started receiving these messages after updating from 9.4 - 9.5. 
 I've found a couple places to test packet sizes, but have not had any 
 problem. The messages about zen.spamhaus.org leads me to possibly 
 email related issues.

On 28.01.09 08:04, Danny Thomas wrote:
 add category edns-disabled { null; };
 after verifying your nameserver(s) have an EDNS0 clear path
 by trying the 2 tests mentioned below by Mark Andrews.

I strongly recommend you upgrading the BIND first. Later versions issue that
message much less often. 


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Re: contacting a external nameserver

2009-01-28 Thread Serge Fonville
In that case you can use either views or a split dns
Regards.

Serge Fonville

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Luis Silva luisfilsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, basically what I need is a forwarder. Basically I want an internal
 network but external queries must be handled by another server.
 Thanks a lot for the quick reply.
 Kind Regards,
 Luis
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Serge Fonville 
 serge.fonvi...@gmail.comwrote:

   I should have sent this to the list


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Serge Fonville 
 serge.fonvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Not sure what your endgoal is, but...

 If you want a specific zone to be queried on the external nameserver, you
 can create a forward zone.
 If you want all unresolvable queries to be forwarded to a specific
 nameserver, you can define forwarders.

 Perhaps some information about what your end result should be instead of
 suggesting solutions up front can be of use.

 Hope this helps.

 Regards,

 Serge Fonville

   On 1/27/09, Luis Silva luisfilsi...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi all,
 I'm having a question related to querying external servers that hope you
 could answer me. I'm sending a iterative query for an external server and
 the server is sending a referral answer but only with the authoritive name
 servers.  After that, i send a query A asking the nameservers ip addresses.
 This A query is supposed to be a recursive query or must be a iterative 
 one?
 Is there a standard that talks about this? thanks in advance.

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Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-28 Thread Jukka Pakkanen


Sorry remembered wrong, it's not free. But not that expensive either.

Yeah now I remember, I browsed for a free firewall for server platform for 
days, but didn't find any.


But have been very happy with the Net Firewall.

Jukka


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viestissä:p3evn4t6r9spme6ardiqbohjvlt99vt...@4ax.com...

Jukka Pakkanen jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi wrote:

There are many free third party firewall packages that can be run in 
Window=

s =

2003 Server, we use the Net Firewall.

Do you have a URL?  I found http://www.ntkernel.com/wp.php?id=18 but it's 
not free.

I'm also going to ask my fellow MVPs as well.

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wildcarding everything

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Haneda
Hello, I am wondering the technical possibility of a DNS change.  Even  
if it is technically possible, I also want to make sure it is  
compliant as well.


I would like to resolve any and all requests to a fixed IP, if there  
is no zone in place.  While I understand I can create a zone for  
*.example.com and resolve all of the * portion to an A record and  
further have a web server take over...


What I am looking to do now, is have the very act of having my two  
NS's listed as NS's with their domain, resolve to an A record.   
Essentially, wildcard the entire DNS machine.


There may be cases where a real zone is put in place, to a different A  
record, and that would need to take priority, but if it does not, I  
would like to resolve it.


The NS's in question will not be answering for recursive queries, so I  
am not worried about local requests getting hijacked or mis-routed.


An example would be:
some-domain-foo.com is registered. My NS of ns-me.example.com is set  
up and working, but does not have some-domain-foo.com entered as a  
zone.  When a request comes in for some-domain-foo.com I want an A  
record for an IP of my choice, also for www.some-domain-foo.com as well.


Possible?  Acceptable?

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reg - BIND 9.3.0 - CVE-2009-0025

2009-01-28 Thread Ashish
Hi Folks,

 

This is regarding the recent security threat CVE-2009-0025.

 

We are using DNS 9.3.0 and unfortunately, we cannot upgrade (management
issues) to 9.3.6 (As suggested in ISC website)

 

ISC's website suggests to Upgrade OpenSSL to at least OpenSSL 0.9.8j and
then to upgrade to 9.3.6-P1.

 

Could you please advice how can I upgrade OpenSSL? Since we could not
upgrade DNS is there any other alternative for us. Could we apply the same
patch of 9.3.6-P1 on 9.3.0? Will it help resolving this issue?

 

Do I need to change code somewhere?

 

Kindly suggest what exactly I could do and what options I have to resolve
this issue.

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

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Re: BIND 9.4.x vs 9.6.x - pid-file check and creation

2009-01-28 Thread Thomas Schulz
In article glp3rc$23p...@sf1.isc.org,
Jan Arild =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lindstr=F8m?=  j...@telenor.net wrote:

Hi,

ah, of course. I did not think about it as a Solaris bug.

I patched BIND 9.6.0-P1 os.c code so it first checks for the diretory
before it tries the fast approach of just running mkdir. And that of
course works fine.

But, since I do not want to run a self-patch BIND in production, I will
instead run with pid-file /var/run/named/named/named.pid and be happy
with that.

Just wondering.  Since /var/run is a swap (memory) based file system,
do you have to recreate those directories on each reboot?


Thanks
Jan Arild Lindstr


At 15:35 27/01/2009, Mark Andrews wrote:

Looking at the publically available parts of SunSolve there are at least
bug reports about it.

Requires Support Contract tmp_mkdir()/xmemfs_mkdir() inconsistent with oth=
er xxxfs_mkdir() functions.  |  Open in a new window
bug 6253984
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=3D1-1-6253984-1 - Sep =
10, 2007
 =

Requires Support Contract tmp_mkdir()/xmemfs_mkdir() inconsistent with oth=
er xxxfs_mkdir() functions.  |  Open in a new window
bug 2152581
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=3D1-1-2152581-1 - Sep =
10, 2007 =

I don't have a copy of the POSIX standard that covers mkdir(2) to
see what it has to say about it.  Historically however EACCES on
search failure,  EEXIST if the file/directory exists, then EACCES on
parent directory write permissions was the error determination order.

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RE: wildcarding everything

2009-01-28 Thread Ben Bridges
What specifically are you intending to wildcard?  com.?  net.?  .?
If so, then you would be implicitly making your name servers
authoritative for domains for which your servers are not supposed to be
authoritative.

Ben Bridges



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 From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org 
 [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Scott Haneda
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:31 AM
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: wildcarding everything
 
 Hello, I am wondering the technical possibility of a DNS 
 change.  Even if it is technically possible, I also want to 
 make sure it is compliant as well.
 
 I would like to resolve any and all requests to a fixed IP, 
 if there is no zone in place.  While I understand I can 
 create a zone for *.example.com and resolve all of the * 
 portion to an A record and further have a web server take over...
 
 What I am looking to do now, is have the very act of having my two  
 NS's listed as NS's with their domain, resolve to an A record.   
 Essentially, wildcard the entire DNS machine.
 
 There may be cases where a real zone is put in place, to a 
 different A record, and that would need to take priority, but 
 if it does not, I would like to resolve it.
 
 The NS's in question will not be answering for recursive 
 queries, so I am not worried about local requests getting 
 hijacked or mis-routed.
 
 An example would be:
 some-domain-foo.com is registered. My NS of ns-me.example.com 
 is set up and working, but does not have some-domain-foo.com 
 entered as a zone.  When a request comes in for 
 some-domain-foo.com I want an A record for an IP of my 
 choice, also for www.some-domain-foo.com as well.
 
 Possible?  Acceptable?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Andrews

In message fl82o4hqjudbc65bkfk08ilg3lmk4hq...@4ax.com, Tony Toews [MVP] wri
tes:
 Tony Toews [MVP] tto...@telusplanet.net wrote:
 
 FWIW In the last 28 hours I have the following alleged IP addresses and coun
 t in my
 log file.
 
 Real lookups 1665
 204.15.80.50 4
 3.217.28.226 1144
 4.57.246.146 9541
 6.9.16.171   577
 63.217.28.2261463
 64.57.246.14635163
 65.173.218.961
 67.192.144.0 1488
 7.192.144.0  12054
 76.9.16.171  1033
 
 FWIW in the last 26 hours.
 Real Lookups  1673
 0.86.80.9814051

So who isn't doing even loose URPF?
0/8 is totally bogus and is a attack directed at you.

 4.57.246.123  4425
 4.57.246.146  22719
 6.9.16.171419
 64.57.246.123 4885
 64.57.246.146 25023
 67.192.144.0  825
 7.192.144.0   696
 70.86.80.98   9317
 76.9.16.171   295
 
 
 So some have disappeared and new ones added.
 
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named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Haneda
Hello, my past post about wildcarding the . in a named server seems  
it may be wrought with issues in the long term.


In short, my issues is a auto website creation tool that needs to be  
simple for users to change their registrar data, and have their site  
be served up.


The old method works, but is being outgrown, I can come in and try to  
solve it with scripts to sync the website to local named files, but it  
will always be a battle.


I am coming up short on finding any database backed store for named.   
I think sqllite would be the best for raw performance, but then again,  
even a million records in mysql is trivial.  I am just worried about  
volume of selects.


Can anyone point me to any info on database backed named solutions?
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Re: wildcarding everything

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Haneda

On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:

In message 30e0039f-b0fd-4322-b0e0-52eeefa76...@newgeo.com, Scott  
Haneda writ

es:

I can remove the entire DNS management, zone creation, and deltion if
I wildcard. Any domain in which they enter in my clients ns's will
resolve automatically as soon as the whois updates.


Actually you can't.  You will end up returning answers that
will be rejected.  If the registrar does any sort of checking
the registration will also be rejected.



Ok, thanks.  So with this, it is a safe estimation, all these domain  
parking systems actually create DNS records on the fly for their  
users?  I can not imagine someone as large as godaddy with such  
inferior support, and a rather terrible web interface, actually  
getting this right most of the time.

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Re: named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread David Ford
Use the DLZ extension.  It's been around for a while.

I.e. put the following in your named.conf and use whatever interface you
wish.  I use Ant with a few modifications.  I don't have nearly the
number of domains that you do so my simple system works fine.


  dlz postgres zone {
database postgres 2
  {host=localhost dbname=dns_data user=bind password=xx}
  {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM canonical WHERE lower(content) =
lower('%zone%') limit 1}
  {SELECT ttl, type, priority, data FROM record, canonical WHERE
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND host = '%record%' AND zone = domain}
  {}
  {SELECT ttl, type, host, priority, data FROM record, canonical
WHERE zone = domain AND lower(content) = lower('%zone%')}
  {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM xfr, canonical WHERE zone = domain AND
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND client = inet '%client%'};
  };

Rather spiffy for centralizing your record store with immediate change
visibility.

-david

Scott Haneda wrote:
 Hello, my past post about wildcarding the . in a named server seems
 it may be wrought with issues in the long term.

 In short, my issues is a auto website creation tool that needs to be
 simple for users to change their registrar data, and have their site
 be served up.

 The old method works, but is being outgrown, I can come in and try to
 solve it with scripts to sync the website to local named files, but it
 will always be a battle.

 I am coming up short on finding any database backed store for named. 
 I think sqllite would be the best for raw performance, but then again,
 even a million records in mysql is trivial.  I am just worried about
 volume of selects.

 Can anyone point me to any info on database backed named solutions?
 Thank you named users, you are all very helpful.
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Re: named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Haneda
Damnit, ever time I search this stuff out, I search for named  
something-or-other and should use BIND in my search :)


I am going to test deploy on my worksation on OS X.  Named comes up  
with relative ease, just add a key and I am pretty much up and  
running, albeit out of date, but for testing, I am ok with that.


Are you telling me I need not even build named to get DLZ support?  It  
is just there already?


I see you are using postgress, mysql or sqllite should not be an issue  
either?


Zones are backed in DB, but not queried in real time are there?  If  
they are, I can see, sub 50ms return times going way up.


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I will go read the DLZ  
pages now.


On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:25 PM, David Ford wrote:


Use the DLZ extension.  It's been around for a while.

I.e. put the following in your named.conf and use whatever interface  
you

wish.  I use Ant with a few modifications.  I don't have nearly the
number of domains that you do so my simple system works fine.


 dlz postgres zone {
   database postgres 2
 {host=localhost dbname=dns_data user=bind  
password=xx}

 {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM canonical WHERE lower(content) =
lower('%zone%') limit 1}
 {SELECT ttl, type, priority, data FROM record, canonical WHERE
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND host = '%record%' AND zone =  
domain}

 {}
 {SELECT ttl, type, host, priority, data FROM record, canonical
WHERE zone = domain AND lower(content) = lower('%zone%')}
 {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM xfr, canonical WHERE zone = domain AND
lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND client = inet '%client%'};
 };

Rather spiffy for centralizing your record store with immediate change
visibility.


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Re: named and database backed systems

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 29c7b7bc-f017-4404-b011-8b50206c7...@newgeo.com, Scott Haneda writ
es:
 Damnit, ever time I search this stuff out, I search for named  
 something-or-other and should use BIND in my search :)
 
 I am going to test deploy on my worksation on OS X.  Named comes up  
 with relative ease, just add a key and I am pretty much up and  
 running, albeit out of date, but for testing, I am ok with that.
 
 Are you telling me I need not even build named to get DLZ support?  It  
 is just there already?

You have to tell configure that you want it.  It's still
contributed code.
 
 I see you are using postgress, mysql or sqllite should not be an issue  
 either?
 
 Zones are backed in DB, but not queried in real time are there?  If  
 they are, I can see, sub 50ms return times going way up.
 
 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I will go read the DLZ  
 pages now.
 
 On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:25 PM, David Ford wrote:
 
  Use the DLZ extension.  It's been around for a while.
 
  I.e. put the following in your named.conf and use whatever interface  
  you
  wish.  I use Ant with a few modifications.  I don't have nearly the
  number of domains that you do so my simple system works fine.
 
 
   dlz postgres zone {
 database postgres 2
   {host=localhost dbname=dns_data user=bind  
  password=xx}
   {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM canonical WHERE lower(content) =
  lower('%zone%') limit 1}
   {SELECT ttl, type, priority, data FROM record, canonical WHERE
  lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND host = '%record%' AND zone =  
  domain}
   {}
   {SELECT ttl, type, host, priority, data FROM record, canonical
  WHERE zone = domain AND lower(content) = lower('%zone%')}
   {SELECT 'TRUE' FROM xfr, canonical WHERE zone = domain AND
  lower(content) = lower('%zone%') AND client = inet '%client%'};
   };
 
  Rather spiffy for centralizing your record store with immediate change
  visibility.
 
 --
 Scott
 
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