Re: computer wont mumble
On Monday 06 September 2010 23:42:19 James Richard Tyrer wrote: thanks for your input. > > a little advice would be appreciated > > There have been reports of KDE-4.x.y no being compatible with PulseAudio > dispute that fact that it is supposed to be able to use it as the sound > server. > > IAC, if PulseAudio is being used, it must be running. Open System > Monitor and look for it. > > Then open system settings and go to the section for sound configuration > and look at the window showing "Output Device Preference". Select > Music. Here I only have a device called dummy. I think it is ConsoleKit (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit) up to jiggery-pokery. I get this at the tail of /var/log/kdm.log ## arguments to ck_connector_get_cookie() were incorrect, assertion "connector != NULL" failed in file ck-connector.c line 583. I had moved the build to a new location the old one had kde-4.4.2 which I abandoned. the build went OK but on login in I obtained a nasty flash that /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-helper no success or some such. Here is the narrative:- a) If I fixed the permissions on the dbus-daemon-helper file that the warning disappeared; KDM reports no errors BUT I get a dummy for my sound device AND usb-memory sticks show up but opens-up as the home directory! I get sound only on the command line alsamixer, aplay works (I do not have /etc/asound.conf) b) if I do not fix the permissions and keep the KDM-login warning flashing across the screen,all sound devices are enabled pulse, jack etc and I get sound AND usb-sticks can be opened. (which by the way show up only if inserted at boot-time -but that is another story) c) if I do not fix the permissions of the dbus-daemon-helper file and I start consolekit manually before I start KDM the KDM-login warning disappears and usb-sticks can be opened but I get a dummy sound device (generally) which begs the question what might be the motiviaion for ConsoleKit? I have stopped d-bus and hal, scrubbed out the stain of ConsoleKit, scrubbed Hal out recompiled both of them and restarted with the correct perms on the dbus-daemon-helper fileand I was back to a) above. The only one I have not redone is pulse-audio So advice/workrounds on being rid of --- arguments to ck_connector_get_cookie() were incorrect, assertion "connector != NULL" failed in file ck-connector.c line 583. --- from you or others on list would be appreciated -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On 09/04/10 14:51, luxInteg wrote: > but I cant get even a mumble > > It also has pulse-audio, and kde-4.4.5 > but all I get in the latter is a sound device called dummy. > > which is quite strange as I disabled 'dummy' for alsa in the kernel > compilation > > a little advice would be appreciated There have been reports of KDE-4.x.y no being compatible with PulseAudio dispute that fact that it is supposed to be able to use it as the sound server. IAC, if PulseAudio is being used, it must be running. Open System Monitor and look for it. Then open system settings and go to the section for sound configuration and look at the window showing "Output Device Preference". Select Music. If you want to try PulseAudio, it should be at the top. OSS should always be at the bottom. It it isn't working, kill the PulseAudio daemon and more ALSA to the top. To use the same settings for everything, use the: "Apply Device List To ..." button. -- James Tyrer Linux (mostly) From Scratch -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On 9/4/10, luxInteg wrote: > in one instance when I did not get a dummy I got KDE start/and/exit > sounds > but no CD-sound. > I was (but no longer) playing kde-4. Exact specifics forgotten, but check somewhere in control settings something like mixer or phonon stuff. If phonon installed bad, there is never any sound. (there was kde vs. qt phonon monkey business.) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On Sunday 05 September 2010 00:22:16 Andrew Benton wrote: > On 04/09/10 22:51, luxInteg wrote: > > greetings, > > > > I've got a computer with all of these:- > > > > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/snd > > total 0 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 Sep 4 22:27 by-path > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 10 Sep 4 22:27 controlC0 > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 12 Sep 4 22:27 controlC1 > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 9 Sep 4 22:27 hwC0D0 > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 8 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D0c > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 7 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D0p > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 6 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D1c > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 5 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D1p > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 4 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D2c > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 11 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC1D0p > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 3 Sep 4 22:27 seq > > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 2 Sep 4 22:27 timer > > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/mixer* > > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 0 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/mixer > > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 16 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/mixer1 > > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/dsp* > > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/dsp > > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 19 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/dsp1 > > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/audio > > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 4 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/audio > > linteg [ ~ ]# > > > > > > but I cant get even a mumble > > > > It also has pulse-audio, and kde-4.4.5 > > but all I get in the latter is a sound device called dummy. > > > > which is quite strange as I disabled 'dummy' for alsa in the kernel > > compilation > > > > a little advice would be appreciated > > Do you have 2 sound cards? When you run alsamixer, what card and chip > does it say? Card: HDA NVidia F1: Help │ │ Chip: Realtek ALC883 > Have you compiled support for those into the kernel? yes in 2.6.34, and 2.6.34.6 > Have > you unmuted all the channels (press m) in alsamixer? yes > Does speaker-test > give any sound? I have played wav files from /usr/share/sounds/alsa both at command prompt before startkde and in konsole. but I still get a dummy for the sound device in kde. in one instance when I did not get a dummy I got KDE start/and/exit sounds but no CD-sound. The thing's a joke. I think its hal and that consolekit mulaki. I hope its ditched by kde-4.6 with kdesolid. > I don't use kde, oss or pulse audio so I can't help with > those. > > Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On Sunday 05 September 2010 00:23:58 linux fan wrote: > On 9/4/10, luxInteg wrote: > > but I cant get even a mumble > > If you've got alsa, you can test: > alsamixer > speaker-test yes alsamixer is fine and aplay runs fine sounds (from/usr/share/sounds/alsa) play on the command line. I even get the kde mixer gui and can toggle levels and press mute buttons but I cant get a whisper out. "You have a dummy sound card" sayeth KDE! The one instance when I did not have a dummy sound card, the startup/exit sounds played but the CDplayer stayed stubbornly silent. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 10:51:05PM +0100, luxInteg wrote: > greetings, > > I've got a computer with all of these:- > > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/snd > total 0 [ snip good-looking list of devices ] > > but I cant get even a mumble > > It also has pulse-audio, and kde-4.4.5 > but all I get in the latter is a sound device called dummy. > > which is quite strange as I disabled 'dummy' for alsa in the kernel > compilation > > a little advice would be appreciated > > sincerely > luxInteg I have no experience with PulseAudio - it's on my list of things to look at somewhen, but so far I'm nowhere near it. But since I can't do much while I'm trying to build xorg and periodically fixing typos in the new version numbers, I've googled PulseAudio. As far as I can see, you have to start it, and then the way in which you get applications to use it varies - e.g. alsa apps need you to edit asound.conf (even though for non-pulse most people don't need asound.conf). The only thing I can see in the articles I've read is that esd is replaced by Pulse, everything else seems to need extra work to use PulseAudio. So very likely, once you get something working, you'll have to make changes to the other sound-playing apps. Google also found various comments about "too quiet", but googling in lynx is not my favourite activity. If you have it running, it might be worth your time to look at the arch wiki http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio - obviously ignore the comments on pacman and repositories, but it seemsto have useful info, e.g. for asound.conf. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On 9/4/10, luxInteg wrote: > > but I cant get even a mumble > If you've got alsa, you can test: alsamixer speaker-test -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: computer wont mumble
On 04/09/10 22:51, luxInteg wrote: > greetings, > > I've got a computer with all of these:- > > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/snd > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 Sep 4 22:27 by-path > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 10 Sep 4 22:27 controlC0 > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 12 Sep 4 22:27 controlC1 > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 9 Sep 4 22:27 hwC0D0 > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 8 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D0c > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 7 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D0p > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 6 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D1c > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 5 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D1p > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 4 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC0D2c > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 11 Sep 4 22:27 pcmC1D0p > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 3 Sep 4 22:27 seq > crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 2 Sep 4 22:27 timer > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/mixer* > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 0 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/mixer > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 16 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/mixer1 > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/dsp* > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/dsp > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 19 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/dsp1 > linteg [ ~ ]# ls -l /dev/audio > crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 4 Sep 4 22:27 /dev/audio > linteg [ ~ ]# > > > but I cant get even a mumble > > It also has pulse-audio, and kde-4.4.5 > but all I get in the latter is a sound device called dummy. > > which is quite strange as I disabled 'dummy' for alsa in the kernel > compilation > > a little advice would be appreciated > Do you have 2 sound cards? When you run alsamixer, what card and chip does it say? Have you compiled support for those into the kernel? Have you unmuted all the channels (press m) in alsamixer? Does speaker-test give any sound? I don't use kde, oss or pulse audio so I can't help with those. Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
