[Blind-Computing] Test Message
This is a test message to see if I have my folder set up correctly to receive the emails from this group and play a particular little sound. Please, no one has to reply to this post. I will find out all I need to know when I receive it. Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] KESI Virtual Printer In Theory
Well, Solid Converter PDF didn't work on Lois' document neither. I tried it two ways; one as the printer option and again as the PDF file processing application. In neither case could it get any meaningful text from the file -- well, none at all real. I guess the KESI Virtual Printer was at least better in this regard, at least it could read disjoint words from the "print out." Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Blind-Computing] KESI Virtual Printer In Theory
OK, I posted a private message to David concerning the KESI Virtual Printer feature of Kurzweil and he urged me to post to the list. I have posted several messages on this matter to the list, but I'm not sure if they were Sufficiently clear. First, I believe the KESI Virtual Printer debuted with Kurzweil 1000 Version 6.0, but it may have been Version 6.02. No matter, there are probably folks out there without this feature because it wasn't available in the version they have installed. What is the KESI Virtual Printer feature? This feature allows a user to "print" a document by specifying the "KESI Virtual Printer" as the printer to run the job. In reality, this selection will pass the formatted print job through the Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software and launch Kurzweil 1000 as if it were actually scanning a paper document. The step that's avoided here is actually creating a hard-copy or paper copy of the document to then scan via normal procedures. Instead a shortcut is deployed where the formatted print output is processed immediately via the OCR and the Kurzweil 1000 reader. How does the computer get this feature? The KESI Virtual Printer is established as one of the printer options when Kurzweil 1000 is installed. After installing Kurzweil 1000 you can go to the Settings/Printers from the Main Menu and you'll be able to ascertain that "KESI Virtual Printer" is indeed one of the available printers on the system. Is the KESI Virtual Printer guaranteed to always work? Hmmm, apparently not! Just today I encountered several problems with the document Lois had posted about on this list. The first problem is that it seems the quality of the photocopy is so terrible (or they've used some terribly fancy print font on the original document) that each of the 11 page document reported "Poorly Recognized" while processing the document through the OCR. That was ad enough, but then when I tried to save the "printed/scanned" document Kurzweil crashed. The first problem could have been overcome with some artful editing, but I couldn't save the output into a file of any kind for subsequent editing. Very frustrating for sure! Are there other "virtual printer" applications other than KESI Virtual Printer? Oh yes! From the thread on this list today it is obvious that Freedom Scientific's Open Book has a similar feature. And there are other virtual printer applications available as well. In fact, I just learned today that "Solid Converter PDF" is also installed as a virtual printer -- imagine my surprise when I went to Settings/Printers and discovered this. Lois, you mind sending me that file again -- I'll try to pass it through Solid Converter PDF and see if that works better. So, in theory the KESI Virtual Printer should function as I had suggested throughout the thread on Lois' PDF file. But it didn't and here I sit with egg on my face and the text "F O O L" printed boldly on my forehead! Think I'll take a picture, load it into a PDF and send it on to the list! Humph! Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Where's the buzz?
Well, if you subscribe to the following lists, you'll be hearing a lot more about System Access: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where's the buzz? > All, I recently tried out the web-based screen-reader called system access > to go from Serotek, and have been very favorably impressed. > > > > Oddly, I haven't heard anything much about this on any of the far too many > Lists I'm subscribed to. Why is this, is it old hat to everybody but me? > > > > > > I think this has tremendous potential, not only for blind users, but for > government, and any other business that routinely provides web or other > computer access to members of the public. > > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Where's the buzz?
I agree. There are so few extra commands to learn, unlike JAWS and WindowEyes as well. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "DON'T TELL GOD HOW BIG YOUR STORM IS, TELL YOUR STORM HOW BIG OUR GOD IS." Author Unknown - Original Message - From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Where's the buzz? > All, I recently tried out the web-based screen-reader called system access > to go from Serotek, and have been very favorably impressed. > > > > Oddly, I haven't heard anything much about this on any of the far too many > Lists I'm subscribed to. Why is this, is it old hat to everybody but me? > > > > > > I think this has tremendous potential, not only for blind users, but for > government, and any other business that routinely provides web or other > computer access to members of the public. > > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Blind-Computing] Where's the buzz?
All, I recently tried out the web-based screen-reader called system access to go from Serotek, and have been very favorably impressed. Oddly, I haven't heard anything much about this on any of the far too many Lists I'm subscribed to. Why is this, is it old hat to everybody but me? I think this has tremendous potential, not only for blind users, but for government, and any other business that routinely provides web or other computer access to members of the public. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] defrag and JFW
Yes, you can leave Jaws on while doing a defrag. It doesn't create a log file, but you do have the option to save the results once the the defrag is finished. WEB TEXT READER Find news, sports, stock quotes, phone listings, encyclopedias, dictionaries, TV listings and more, fast and easily with Web Text Reader. For a 14 day free trial, go to: www.WebTextReader.Com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 5:38 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] defrag and JFW Can Jaws stay on while using defrag? I unloaded JAWS, but when defrag stopped, I couldn't get JAWS back, and had to manually restart the computer. Where might my defrag log be in Windows XP, and what might it be called? Or is there one? Thanks for any ideas. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cathie J Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:37 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdfhelpneeded Thanks for all the responses; I continue to have so much to learn! I do have openbook 7, but underused. I have asked those sending me documents to please send them as a word attachment. Thanks Cathie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] *SPAM* Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdf helpneeded If you don't have kurzweil or openbook, you can make use of the scan tools provided by Microsoft. On the Microsoft Tools submenu (I am talking about the Start menu and not in a Microsoft application), you will find 2 scanning options, document Imaging and document scanning. The document imaging options will scan your document into a MS-Word doc as an image which is just fine if you are sending something to a person who does not use a screen reader. If you want to create an accessible scanned document, you will need to use the Document scanning option. It does a pretty good job, but not as good as Kurzweil or openbook. Another option for scanning software that is not all that expensive is text Cloner Pro put out by Premier Software. It can be found at readingmade easy.com You must use your own screen reader with Text Cloner Pro if I remember correctly. HTH, Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:24 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: *SPAM* [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf helpneeded Cathie Jacobse asks: Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to be read? Well Cathie, The answer to your question depends on how you (or anybody) scanned the document. Personally, I have Kurzweil 1000 and would use that to scan a document to save and attach as a text file -- this is quite accessible. I also have an HP multi-function printer/scanner/copier with dedicated software that will allow me to "take a picture" of a document or attempt to scan as text. I have no idea how accessible a document scanned as text via this HP software will be since I prefer to use Kurzweil for this. But I suppose it's possible that the HP scanning software would produce reasonably accessible text files. Of course, I'm answering this as somebody who is totally blind and depends on screen reading software to get anything meaningful from computer data. If you're scanning documents and sending them to persons that at least have reasonably functional sight there's probably no issue. And, if you were to send a "photocopy" image to somebody who has Kurzweil he/she could always run the attachment through the KESI Virtual Printer themselves to get a text rendering of the letter. I don't know if Open Book has a similar feature; a capability to have the Open Book Optical Character Recognition software serve as a "printer" to convert images into text. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.b
Re: [Blind-Computing] *****SPAM***** Re: Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdfhelp needed
So you're saying that open book will perform the same task as Kurzweil will, please elaborate. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] *SPAM* Re: Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdfhelp needed I believe this works similarly with OpenBook. If you set up the Freedom Printer, you can bring the inaccessible PDF image into Openbook. It has been some time since I've done this as my current computer at work will not allow the Freedom Printer to set up. Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:31 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: *SPAM* Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed Lenny writes: As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Hi Lenny, Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It saves paper, time and effort. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Calorie guide
Weight Watchers site has some stuff, but mostly points guides. But actually with their new plans, I bet they've gone back to calorie counts again. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan & Terrie Robbins Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:40 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Calorie guide Good afternoon, Does anyone know of any excel (preferably) or MS Word files on the net (free or for purchase) that cover calorie, fat, carbs, fiber, sodium, glycemia rating etc? A format such as this would be accessible with JAWS. If not does anyone know of any JAWS accessible nutritional resources? thanks Al Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Blind-Computing] defrag and JFW
Can Jaws stay on while using defrag? I unloaded JAWS, but when defrag stopped, I couldn't get JAWS back, and had to manually restart the computer. Where might my defrag log be in Windows XP, and what might it be called? Or is there one? Thanks for any ideas. Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cathie J Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:37 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdfhelpneeded Thanks for all the responses; I continue to have so much to learn! I do have openbook 7, but underused. I have asked those sending me documents to please send them as a word attachment. Thanks Cathie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] *SPAM* Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdf helpneeded If you don't have kurzweil or openbook, you can make use of the scan tools provided by Microsoft. On the Microsoft Tools submenu (I am talking about the Start menu and not in a Microsoft application), you will find 2 scanning options, document Imaging and document scanning. The document imaging options will scan your document into a MS-Word doc as an image which is just fine if you are sending something to a person who does not use a screen reader. If you want to create an accessible scanned document, you will need to use the Document scanning option. It does a pretty good job, but not as good as Kurzweil or openbook. Another option for scanning software that is not all that expensive is text Cloner Pro put out by Premier Software. It can be found at readingmade easy.com You must use your own screen reader with Text Cloner Pro if I remember correctly. HTH, Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:24 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: *SPAM* [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf helpneeded Cathie Jacobse asks: Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to be read? Well Cathie, The answer to your question depends on how you (or anybody) scanned the document. Personally, I have Kurzweil 1000 and would use that to scan a document to save and attach as a text file -- this is quite accessible. I also have an HP multi-function printer/scanner/copier with dedicated software that will allow me to "take a picture" of a document or attempt to scan as text. I have no idea how accessible a document scanned as text via this HP software will be since I prefer to use Kurzweil for this. But I suppose it's possible that the HP scanning software would produce reasonably accessible text files. Of course, I'm answering this as somebody who is totally blind and depends on screen reading software to get anything meaningful from computer data. If you're scanning documents and sending them to persons that at least have reasonably functional sight there's probably no issue. And, if you were to send a "photocopy" image to somebody who has Kurzweil he/she could always run the attachment through the KESI Virtual Printer themselves to get a text rendering of the letter. I don't know if Open Book has a similar feature; a capability to have the Open Book Optical Character Recognition software serve as a "printer" to convert images into text. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Comp
Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes
Hi there Annette, I think your observations are right on the money. I had a sighted friend to come by and look at the screne and the file in question was no where to be found. So it makes perfect sense that ms word didn't have time enough to back up the file. - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > You might want to go into your MS-Word options and see where your back up > files are being stored. My guess is however, that this is not going to be > helpful. I'm thinking that your auto back up had not yet had a chance to > save the most recent work that you had done before the program crashed. > While you are in your MS-Word settings, consider reducing the time lapse > between back ups. I keep mine at 3 minutes. > > > HTH > Annette > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:00 PM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > > Hi there Steve & Shannon, > > Thanks. I was able to locate the recovery pane by pressing F6 and there were > a number of files listed there, however, not the one i was attempting to > recover. There was an "edit box" So I typed in the file name I was > attempting to recover and it pulled up a number of files of which again none > belong to me. I even used the jaws curser and read the page from top to > bottom and still no luck. I guess this undertaking requires sight, but I > thank every one for their help. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve & Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > > > > Press F6 and this will take you over to the document recovery pane. > > > > > > Steve & Shannon > > Today I married my best friend. > > The one that I laugh with, live for, love. > > October 11, 2003 > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence > taylor > > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:23 AM > > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > Subject: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > > > > Good morning listers > > > > I was working in ms word 2003 and lost jaws thus had to do a hard reboot. > > Upon rebooting and bringing ms word 2003 back up I learn I'd lost the > > paragraph or so I'd been working on. However, when I went to save my work > > the second time and shut ms word 2003 down a message pop up asking me if i > > wanted to save this file that ms word 2003 had recovered as a result of > > doing the hard breboot earlier under "documents recovery task pane" Of > > course I checked, "okay" > > My question is how do I find this "documents recovery task pane" when i > > reopen "ms owrd 2003" Any help would be appreciated. > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > > http://www.blind-computing.com > > Address for the list archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > > To post to this group, send email to > > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or > > body of a blank message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following > > address: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > > http://www.blind-computing.com > > Address for the list archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > > To post to this group, send email to > > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or > body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank e
[Blind-Computing] Sorry I Missed It
Hey Guys, Sorry I missed the grand opening of the group's new home. I was gone all day yesterday and didn't get home until about 3:30 this morning. But, I am here now and am very excited about being a member of this group. I look forward to meeting all of you who I don't already know. Thanks for allowing me to be a part of the family. Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes
You might want to go into your MS-Word options and see where your back up files are being stored. My guess is however, that this is not going to be helpful. I'm thinking that your auto back up had not yet had a chance to save the most recent work that you had done before the program crashed. While you are in your MS-Word settings, consider reducing the time lapse between back ups. I keep mine at 3 minutes. HTH Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:00 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes Hi there Steve & Shannon, Thanks. I was able to locate the recovery pane by pressing F6 and there were a number of files listed there, however, not the one i was attempting to recover. There was an "edit box" So I typed in the file name I was attempting to recover and it pulled up a number of files of which again none belong to me. I even used the jaws curser and read the page from top to bottom and still no luck. I guess this undertaking requires sight, but I thank every one for their help. - Original Message - From: "Steve & Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > Press F6 and this will take you over to the document recovery pane. > > > Steve & Shannon > Today I married my best friend. > The one that I laugh with, live for, love. > October 11, 2003 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:23 AM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > > Good morning listers > > I was working in ms word 2003 and lost jaws thus had to do a hard reboot. > Upon rebooting and bringing ms word 2003 back up I learn I'd lost the > paragraph or so I'd been working on. However, when I went to save my work > the second time and shut ms word 2003 down a message pop up asking me if i > wanted to save this file that ms word 2003 had recovered as a result of > doing the hard breboot earlier under "documents recovery task pane" Of > course I checked, "okay" > My question is how do I find this "documents recovery task pane" when i > reopen "ms owrd 2003" Any help would be appreciated. > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or > body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following > address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROT
[Blind-Computing] About updates.
Hi To All; This might be a dumb question,I'm sorry. If my updates come in on Sunday mornings if I have my computer on stand by then the updates won't come in? That means the computer must be turned on... PEACE John Carvalho Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Calorie guide
Good afternoon, Does anyone know of any excel (preferably) or MS Word files on the net (free or for purchase) that cover calorie, fat, carbs, fiber, sodium, glycemia rating etc? A format such as this would be accessible with JAWS. If not does anyone know of any JAWS accessible nutritional resources? thanks Al Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents -Was:pdfhelp needed
Bill, Thank you for trying. I will try to figure out something. Lois - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents -Was:pdfhelp needed Lois, I've been trying to run the document through the KESI Virtual Printer rather than printing it on paper, but it's not going very well at all. First, the contents are very poorly recognized. And second and even worse, when I try to save the "printout" Kurzweil crashes. I've tried several times with same results. I guess Lenny's idea of printing the document and then scanning it is the only way to get the document in an accessible format unless you can go to the source and inquire what they might be able to do for you. Sorry this didn't work out as I'd suggested -- it's worked for me before but this time it's not working well at all. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. * * * * * * * - "Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be president, and anyone who doesn't grow up can be vice president." - Johnny Carson - "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut - Original Message - From: "Lois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was:pdfhelp needed Bill, Could you explain how this is done with the KESI Virtual Printer ? We have an older version of Kurzweil. Lois - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed Lenny writes: As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Hi Lenny, Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It saves paper, time and effort. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailm
[Blind-Computing] Kurzweil Scanners - Was: Readability of Scanned Documents
Kurzweil 1000 works with numerous scanners. They have a list of compatible (tested) scanners on their web site: http://www.kurzweiledu.com Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. * * * * * * * - "Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be president, and anyone who doesn't grow up can be vice president." - Johnny Carson - "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut - Original Message - From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf help needed Hello bill, Glad that makes sense to you. I sometime have difficulty explaining how to get around a problem. As For the Kurzweil, that is a super way of doing what I have to do, but unfortunately the Kurzweil 1000 I think, is a little out of my price range. When Kurzweil was first introduced years ago, I had the privilege of using one at my job. Talk about being pricey! My employer was generous and the best part was that synthesizer was DecTalk. Can you use the Kurzweil 1000 with any scanner or does it have to be a particular one? Thanks for any help, Lennie At 12:30 PM 6/16/2007, you wrote: >Lenny writes: >As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if >it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed >results to read it. > >Does that make sense? > >Hi Lenny, > >Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning >software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text >document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes >perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil >I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper >into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in >Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to >print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It >saves paper, time and effort. > >Bill Gallik >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for >her first question. > > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >subject or body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >following address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was:pdfhelp needed
Lois, I've been trying to run the document through the KESI Virtual Printer rather than printing it on paper, but it's not going very well at all. First, the contents are very poorly recognized. And second and even worse, when I try to save the "printout" Kurzweil crashes. I've tried several times with same results. I guess Lenny's idea of printing the document and then scanning it is the only way to get the document in an accessible format unless you can go to the source and inquire what they might be able to do for you. Sorry this didn't work out as I'd suggested -- it's worked for me before but this time it's not working well at all. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. * * * * * * * - "Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be president, and anyone who doesn't grow up can be vice president." - Johnny Carson - "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut - Original Message - From: "Lois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was:pdfhelp needed Bill, Could you explain how this is done with the KESI Virtual Printer ? We have an older version of Kurzweil. Lois - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed Lenny writes: As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Hi Lenny, Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It saves paper, time and effort. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes
Hi there Steve & Shannon, Thanks. I was able to locate the recovery pane by pressing F6 and there were a number of files listed there, however, not the one i was attempting to recover. There was an "edit box" So I typed in the file name I was attempting to recover and it pulled up a number of files of which again none belong to me. I even used the jaws curser and read the page from top to bottom and still no luck. I guess this undertaking requires sight, but I thank every one for their help. - Original Message - From: "Steve & Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > Press F6 and this will take you over to the document recovery pane. > > > Steve & Shannon > Today I married my best friend. > The one that I laugh with, live for, love. > October 11, 2003 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:23 AM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > > Good morning listers > > I was working in ms word 2003 and lost jaws thus had to do a hard reboot. > Upon rebooting and bringing ms word 2003 back up I learn I'd lost the > paragraph or so I'd been working on. However, when I went to save my work > the second time and shut ms word 2003 down a message pop up asking me if i > wanted to save this file that ms word 2003 had recovered as a result of > doing the hard breboot earlier under "documents recovery task pane" Of > course I checked, "okay" > My question is how do I find this "documents recovery task pane" when i > reopen "ms owrd 2003" Any help would be appreciated. > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or > body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following > address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf help needed
Hello bill, Glad that makes sense to you. I sometime have difficulty explaining how to get around a problem. As For the Kurzweil, that is a super way of doing what I have to do, but unfortunately the Kurzweil 1000 I think, is a little out of my price range. When Kurzweil was first introduced years ago, I had the privilege of using one at my job. Talk about being pricey! My employer was generous and the best part was that synthesizer was DecTalk. Can you use the Kurzweil 1000 with any scanner or does it have to be a particular one? Thanks for any help, Lennie At 12:30 PM 6/16/2007, you wrote: >Lenny writes: >As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if >it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed >results to read it. > >Does that make sense? > >Hi Lenny, > >Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning >software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text >document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes >perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil >I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper >into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in >Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to >print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It >saves paper, time and effort. > >Bill Gallik >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for >her first question. > > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >subject or body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >following address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdf helpneeded
Thanks for all the responses; I continue to have so much to learn! I do have openbook 7, but underused. I have asked those sending me documents to please send them as a word attachment. Thanks Cathie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] *SPAM* Readability of ScannedDocuments - Was: pdf helpneeded If you don't have kurzweil or openbook, you can make use of the scan tools provided by Microsoft. On the Microsoft Tools submenu (I am talking about the Start menu and not in a Microsoft application), you will find 2 scanning options, document Imaging and document scanning. The document imaging options will scan your document into a MS-Word doc as an image which is just fine if you are sending something to a person who does not use a screen reader. If you want to create an accessible scanned document, you will need to use the Document scanning option. It does a pretty good job, but not as good as Kurzweil or openbook. Another option for scanning software that is not all that expensive is text Cloner Pro put out by Premier Software. It can be found at readingmade easy.com You must use your own screen reader with Text Cloner Pro if I remember correctly. HTH, Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:24 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: *SPAM* [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf helpneeded Cathie Jacobse asks: Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to be read? Well Cathie, The answer to your question depends on how you (or anybody) scanned the document. Personally, I have Kurzweil 1000 and would use that to scan a document to save and attach as a text file -- this is quite accessible. I also have an HP multi-function printer/scanner/copier with dedicated software that will allow me to "take a picture" of a document or attempt to scan as text. I have no idea how accessible a document scanned as text via this HP software will be since I prefer to use Kurzweil for this. But I suppose it's possible that the HP scanning software would produce reasonably accessible text files. Of course, I'm answering this as somebody who is totally blind and depends on screen reading software to get anything meaningful from computer data. If you're scanning documents and sending them to persons that at least have reasonably functional sight there's probably no issue. And, if you were to send a "photocopy" image to somebody who has Kurzweil he/she could always run the attachment through the KESI Virtual Printer themselves to get a text rendering of the letter. I don't know if Open Book has a similar feature; a capability to have the Open Book Optical Character Recognition software serve as a "printer" to convert images into text. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to jo
Re: [Blind-Computing] *****SPAM***** Re: Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed
I believe this works similarly with OpenBook. If you set up the Freedom Printer, you can bring the inaccessible PDF image into Openbook. It has been some time since I've done this as my current computer at work will not allow the Freedom Printer to set up. Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:31 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: *SPAM* Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed Lenny writes: As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Hi Lenny, Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It saves paper, time and effort. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed
Bill, Could you explain how this is done with the KESI Virtual Printer ? We have an older version of Kurzweil. Lois - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdfhelp needed Lenny writes: As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Hi Lenny, Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It saves paper, time and effort. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes
Hi, Thanks for those great tips about how to get to the Document Recovery Pain in MS Word. I was also wondering how to get to it, and now I know thanks to the great people on this list! Jeffrey Check out my blog! The URL is http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com "You learn something new every day!" - Original Message - From: "Steve & Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes Press F6 and this will take you over to the document recovery pane. Steve & Shannon Today I married my best friend. The one that I laugh with, live for, love. October 11, 2003 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:23 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes Good morning listers I was working in ms word 2003 and lost jaws thus had to do a hard reboot. Upon rebooting and bringing ms word 2003 back up I learn I'd lost the paragraph or so I'd been working on. However, when I went to save my work the second time and shut ms word 2003 down a message pop up asking me if i wanted to save this file that ms word 2003 had recovered as a result of doing the hard breboot earlier under "documents recovery task pane" Of course I checked, "okay" My question is how do I find this "documents recovery task pane" when i reopen "ms owrd 2003" Any help would be appreciated. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes
Press F6 and this will take you over to the document recovery pane. Steve & Shannon Today I married my best friend. The one that I laugh with, live for, love. October 11, 2003 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:23 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes Good morning listers I was working in ms word 2003 and lost jaws thus had to do a hard reboot. Upon rebooting and bringing ms word 2003 back up I learn I'd lost the paragraph or so I'd been working on. However, when I went to save my work the second time and shut ms word 2003 down a message pop up asking me if i wanted to save this file that ms word 2003 had recovered as a result of doing the hard breboot earlier under "documents recovery task pane" Of course I checked, "okay" My question is how do I find this "documents recovery task pane" when i reopen "ms owrd 2003" Any help would be appreciated. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes
Hi denny, Thanks for responding to my inquiry. I did as instructed and arrowed from the top to the bottom of the page looking for this task pane but no luck. The only files listed were the last 4 I recently used. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Denny Huff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > You will need to route your Jaws to the PC cursor and you can find it that > way. > > > > WEB TEXT READER > Find news, sports, stock quotes, phone listings, encyclopedias, > dictionaries, TV listings and more, fast and easily with Web Text Reader. > For a 14 day free trial, go to: > www.WebTextReader.Com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lawrence taylor > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 2:23 AM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: [Blind-Computing] reviewing documents recovery task panes > > Good morning listers > > I was working in ms word 2003 and lost jaws thus had to do a hard reboot. > Upon rebooting and bringing ms word 2003 back up I learn I'd lost the > paragraph or so I'd been working on. However, when I went to save my work > the second time and shut ms word 2003 down a message pop up asking me if i > wanted to save this file that ms word 2003 had recovered as a result of > doing the hard breboot earlier under "documents recovery task pane" Of > course I checked, "okay" > My question is how do I find this "documents recovery task pane" when i > reopen "ms owrd 2003" Any help would be appreciated. > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send > email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send > an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or > body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following > address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf help needed
Lenny writes: As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Hi Lenny, Well, I guess you've answered my unknown. I presume that the HP scanning software might yield similar results in that scanning a document as a text document will produce a file that I could then access with JAWS. It makes perfect sense to print the PDF and then scan it. But since I have Kurzweil I can eliminate the steps of printing the PDF and then loading the paper into the scanner bed. By virtue of the KESI Virtual Printer provided in Kurzweil 1000 I can pass the PDF directly into Kurzweil by specifying to print that PDF with the KESI Virtual Printer (rather than my HP PSC). It saves paper, time and effort. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed
I believe I said that, but it is nice to know somebody took the time and trouble to prove the point in question, good man. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed Hello David, I just double checked my idea and it works fine. This is of course you have a scanner and a scanner software like OmniPage 15 and the image PDF file is not a picture, but text. I printed the image with Acrobat and then scanned the printed page and I was then able to read the results with Jaws. So, if there is a will, there is a way (smile) I just wanted everyone to know that it is possible to do something like this without sighted help. Thanks, Lennie At 08:29 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote: >If it is saved as a text or some such file that can be opened in an >application where your screen reader is able to access the document. If it >is an image kind of file then forget it completely. >David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >- Original Message - >From: "Cathie J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:20 PM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed > > >Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter >into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to >be read? >Thanks, >Cathie >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >- Original Message - >From: "Bill Gallik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:59 PM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed > > >What Marilyn has suggested about needing to use the Kurzweil Virtual >Printer >to read a particular PDF file leads right into what I'm going to suggest >here. It's possible that the PDF file you are having trouble with is a >photocopy document loaded into a PDF. This means that there may be nothing >at all wrong with your Adobe Reader and you won't be able to save the >document as a text document because it is essentially one big picture of a >document that was photocopied and loaded into PDF. > >Bill Gallik >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for >her first question. >* * * * * * * >- "Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be president, and anyone who >doesn't grow up can be vice president." >- Johnny Carson >- "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to >be." >- Kurt Vonnegut > > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or >body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following >address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or >body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following >address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >subject or body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >following address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email t
Re: [Blind-Computing] *****SPAM***** Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf helpneeded
If you don't have kurzweil or openbook, you can make use of the scan tools provided by Microsoft. On the Microsoft Tools submenu (I am talking about the Start menu and not in a Microsoft application), you will find 2 scanning options, document Imaging and document scanning. The document imaging options will scan your document into a MS-Word doc as an image which is just fine if you are sending something to a person who does not use a screen reader. If you want to create an accessible scanned document, you will need to use the Document scanning option. It does a pretty good job, but not as good as Kurzweil or openbook. Another option for scanning software that is not all that expensive is text Cloner Pro put out by Premier Software. It can be found at readingmade easy.com You must use your own screen reader with Text Cloner Pro if I remember correctly. HTH, Annette -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:24 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: *SPAM* [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf helpneeded Cathie Jacobse asks: Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to be read? Well Cathie, The answer to your question depends on how you (or anybody) scanned the document. Personally, I have Kurzweil 1000 and would use that to scan a document to save and attach as a text file -- this is quite accessible. I also have an HP multi-function printer/scanner/copier with dedicated software that will allow me to "take a picture" of a document or attempt to scan as text. I have no idea how accessible a document scanned as text via this HP software will be since I prefer to use Kurzweil for this. But I suppose it's possible that the HP scanning software would produce reasonably accessible text files. Of course, I'm answering this as somebody who is totally blind and depends on screen reading software to get anything meaningful from computer data. If you're scanning documents and sending them to persons that at least have reasonably functional sight there's probably no issue. And, if you were to send a "photocopy" image to somebody who has Kurzweil he/she could always run the attachment through the KESI Virtual Printer themselves to get a text rendering of the letter. I don't know if Open Book has a similar feature; a capability to have the Open Book Optical Character Recognition software serve as a "printer" to convert images into text. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed
Hello David, I just double checked my idea and it works fine. This is of course you have a scanner and a scanner software like OmniPage 15 and the image PDF file is not a picture, but text. I printed the image with Acrobat and then scanned the printed page and I was then able to read the results with Jaws. So, if there is a will, there is a way (smile) I just wanted everyone to know that it is possible to do something like this without sighted help. Thanks, Lennie At 08:29 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote: >If it is saved as a text or some such file that can be opened in an >application where your screen reader is able to access the document. If it >is an image kind of file then forget it completely. >David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] >- Original Message - >From: "Cathie J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:20 PM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed > > >Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter >into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to >be read? >Thanks, >Cathie >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >- Original Message - >From: "Bill Gallik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:59 PM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed > > >What Marilyn has suggested about needing to use the Kurzweil Virtual Printer >to read a particular PDF file leads right into what I'm going to suggest >here. It's possible that the PDF file you are having trouble with is a >photocopy document loaded into a PDF. This means that there may be nothing >at all wrong with your Adobe Reader and you won't be able to save the >document as a text document because it is essentially one big picture of a >document that was photocopied and loaded into PDF. > >Bill Gallik >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for >her first question. >* * * * * * * >- "Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be president, and anyone who >doesn't grow up can be vice president." >- Johnny Carson >- "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to >be." >- Kurt Vonnegut > > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or >body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following >address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or >body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following >address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >subject or body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >following address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf help needed
Hi, I use a Canon printer copier and scanner. I can scan a letter or other document as a text file and it is completely accessible. As for a photo copy of a PDF file, I would print this document and if it is only one or two page long, I would then scan the printed results to read it. Does that make sense? Thanks, Lennie At 04:24 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote: >Cathie Jacobse asks: >Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter >into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to >be read? > > >Well Cathie, > >The answer to your question depends on how you (or anybody) scanned the >document. Personally, I have Kurzweil 1000 and would use that to scan a >document to save and attach as a text file -- this is quite accessible. I >also have an HP multi-function printer/scanner/copier with dedicated >software that will allow me to "take a picture" of a document or attempt to >scan as text. I have no idea how accessible a document scanned as text via >this HP software will be since I prefer to use Kurzweil for this. But I >suppose it's possible that the HP scanning software would produce reasonably >accessible text files. > >Of course, I'm answering this as somebody who is totally blind and depends >on screen reading software to get anything meaningful from computer data. >If you're scanning documents and sending them to persons that at least have >reasonably functional sight there's probably no issue. And, if you were to >send a "photocopy" image to somebody who has Kurzweil he/she could always >run the attachment through the KESI Virtual Printer themselves to get a text >rendering of the letter. I don't know if Open Book has a similar feature; a >capability to have the Open Book Optical Character Recognition software >serve as a "printer" to convert images into text. > >Bill Gallik >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for >her first question. > > > >Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >http://www.blind-computing.com >Address for the list archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >To post to this group, send email to >blind-computing@jaws-users.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the >subject or body of a blank message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Use the following form in order to contact the management team >http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >following address: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] test message, ignoreRe: hi all
Like I keep saying this list is up and fully functional for sure. Remember folks every list that I manage contains all the information anybody would ever need to post ETC in the footer message, thanks. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "blind-computing @jaws-users.com" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] test message, ignoreRe: hi all You do indeed Terry, welcome to the list. On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:06:52 -0400, "Terry Olandese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > just wanted to make sure i had the address correctly. > - Original Message - > From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "blind-computing @jaws-users.com" > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:55 AM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] hi all > > > > hi all. i am just making shure that my messages are getting through. > > from > > Mich Verrier. > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > > http://www.blind-computing.com > > Address for the list archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > > To post to this group, send email to > > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > > or body of a blank message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > > The Subscribe Address For The JAWS Users List Is: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ NOD32 2332 (20070615) Information __ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Hallsworth E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype name chrishallsworth7266 Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] test message, ignoreRe: hi all
You do indeed Terry, welcome to the list. On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:06:52 -0400, "Terry Olandese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > just wanted to make sure i had the address correctly. > - Original Message - > From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "blind-computing @jaws-users.com" > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:55 AM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] hi all > > > > hi all. i am just making shure that my messages are getting through. from > > Mich Verrier. > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > > http://www.blind-computing.com > > Address for the list archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > > To post to this group, send email to > > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > > or body of a blank message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > > The Subscribe Address For The JAWS Users List Is: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ NOD32 2332 (20070615) Information __ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Hallsworth E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype name chrishallsworth7266 Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed
If it is saved as a text or some such file that can be opened in an application where your screen reader is able to access the document. If it is an image kind of file then forget it completely. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Cathie J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to be read? Thanks, Cathie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Bill Gallik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed What Marilyn has suggested about needing to use the Kurzweil Virtual Printer to read a particular PDF file leads right into what I'm going to suggest here. It's possible that the PDF file you are having trouble with is a photocopy document loaded into a PDF. This means that there may be nothing at all wrong with your Adobe Reader and you won't be able to save the document as a text document because it is essentially one big picture of a document that was photocopied and loaded into PDF. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. * * * * * * * - "Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be president, and anyone who doesn't grow up can be vice president." - Johnny Carson - "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed
Sorry. This message was sent before I read all the other replies. FWIW, the url for 'updating' your version of the reader software is: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html Cheers Jacob Kruger Blind Biker - Original Message - From: "Jacob Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed > What happens when you try open it? > > Not sure, but I think acrobat is up to version 8 already, and that may be > the problem. > > HTH > > Jacob Kruger > Blind Biker > - Original Message - > From: "Lois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:47 PM > Subject: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed > > >>I got a .pdf file that I can't open. Can someone tell me how I might get >>it >>opened? I have XP, jaws 8.0, Adobe 7. Thank you for the help! >> >> Lois >> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: >> http://www.blind-computing.com >> Address for the list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now >> To post to this group, send email to >> blind-computing@jaws-users.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject >> or body of a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team >> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php >> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the >> following address: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed
What happens when you try open it? Not sure, but I think acrobat is up to version 8 already, and that may be the problem. HTH Jacob Kruger Blind Biker - Original Message - From: "Lois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] pdf help needed >I got a .pdf file that I can't open. Can someone tell me how I might get it >opened? I have XP, jaws 8.0, Adobe 7. Thank you for the help! > > Lois > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: > http://www.blind-computing.com > Address for the list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now > To post to this group, send email to > blind-computing@jaws-users.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject > or body of a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Use the following form in order to contact the management team > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Blind-Computing] Readability of Scanned Documents - Was: pdf help needed
Cathie Jacobse asks: Does this apply to scanned documents as well? For example, I scan a letter into my computer, then email it as an attachment to you. How easy is it to be read? Well Cathie, The answer to your question depends on how you (or anybody) scanned the document. Personally, I have Kurzweil 1000 and would use that to scan a document to save and attach as a text file -- this is quite accessible. I also have an HP multi-function printer/scanner/copier with dedicated software that will allow me to "take a picture" of a document or attempt to scan as text. I have no idea how accessible a document scanned as text via this HP software will be since I prefer to use Kurzweil for this. But I suppose it's possible that the HP scanning software would produce reasonably accessible text files. Of course, I'm answering this as somebody who is totally blind and depends on screen reading software to get anything meaningful from computer data. If you're scanning documents and sending them to persons that at least have reasonably functional sight there's probably no issue. And, if you were to send a "photocopy" image to somebody who has Kurzweil he/she could always run the attachment through the KESI Virtual Printer themselves to get a text rendering of the letter. I don't know if Open Book has a similar feature; a capability to have the Open Book Optical Character Recognition software serve as a "printer" to convert images into text. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] God made man before woman so as to give him time to think of an answer for her first question. Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/not known right now To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
