[Blind-Computing] About Daisy

2010-07-08 Thread Silpa Mallipeddi
Hi All:

1. I would like to know more about Daisy. Is there any website or URL
from where can get more info.

2. I would like to know if word, excel, power point and HTML formats
can be accessed in Daisy formats.
3. And I would like to know if any other formats can be accessed in
Daisy formats.

4. I would like to know the extension of .ODT.

Thanks and regards,
Silpa.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Cobra screen reader OCR

2010-07-08 Thread chris hallsworth
Hi, you use Windows+arrow keys to navigate it. I don't quite get it but 
I will persist with it as it's a very interesting feature indeed.



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On 08/07/2010 5:42, Jacob Kruger wrote:

When I use the cobra key (caps lock) + O, it tells me that OCR has been carried 
out on the screen, but how do you then read the resulting textual 
content/output?

In other words, what happens to it?

I tried finding it in the help file etc., but their help contents don't seem to be 
too well structured/laid out etc., and, for example, I wish cobra would render a form 
of keyboard help...smile

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'



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[Blind-Computing] Weather Puls question

2010-07-08 Thread Milos Przic
   Hi all,
   I have no idea how to prevent the Weather plus program to start 
automatically with Windows. I tried soome of the options regarding this in the 
preferences, but it seams not to work, or, which is more probably, I did not 
set everything properly. So how to do it?
   Thanks, and best regards!
  Milos Przic
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skype: Milosh-hs


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[Blind-Computing] filing question

2010-07-08 Thread Cliff Smales
I've been looking at a website that offers Old Time Radio in MP3 format.

How many MP3 files, of either  30 or  60 minutes duration will fit on a CD?

Cliff Smales
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Re: [Blind-Computing] filing question

2010-07-08 Thread Wayne Scott

an average cd holds about 80 minutes of music or show.  Wayne
A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the 
bones.
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I've been looking at a website that offers Old Time Radio in MP3 format.

How many MP3 files, of either  30 or  60 minutes duration will fit on a 
CD?


Cliff Smales
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[Blind-Computing] transfer to cd

2010-07-08 Thread yvonne oliver
hello list members
a while ago i had jaws 9.0 on cd
yes it was a crack copy so contained an extra folder
however i seem to of mislaid the cd and wondered if it can be put on to another 
cd
i know that no one has a copy i can have so i wondered about another way of 
doing this
is it possible to copy the entire jaws folders from my computer to a cd and if 
so how would i do this
i know about cd copying with Nero but have never taken anything from the 
computer and burnt to a cd
any help to do this would be appreciated

thank you

Yvonne
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Re: [Blind-Computing] filing question

2010-07-08 Thread Daleen Spalletta
It can hold a lot more in mp3 format than in normal cd music.  I suggest you 
look at the size of the files. A cd can take up to 700 meg.

Hope this helps
Daleen

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an average cd holds about 80 minutes of music or show.  Wayne
A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the 
bones.
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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:09 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] filing question



I've been looking at a website that offers Old Time Radio in MP3 format.

How many MP3 files, of either  30 or  60 minutes duration will fit on a 
CD?


Cliff Smales
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Switching Windows 7 to Classic View

2010-07-08 Thread Bharat

hey all,

why not install the clasic shell? something that you may get by searching 
through the search engines?



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Subject: [Blind-Computing] Switching Windows 7 to Classic View


Hi All,

I've tried and tried, but to no avail.

I am running a Toshiba L500 laptop with Windows 7 64 bit edition home.  I 
am trying to get Windows to appear like Classic Windows, but for the life 
of me, I simply can't do it.  I should also say that I'm using Jaws 11 
latest build 64 bit edition.


I've gone and sought out the Microsoft Technical bulletin on how to do 
this, but some of the steps they're suggesting just aren't there.


A perfect example is how they tell you to switch to the classic start 
menu.


They say to go to the Control Panel, then to appearances and 
personalization's, then to the personalization link, then to taskbar and 
start menu properties, then to the start menu tab, and on that tab, you're 
supposed to select classic start menu.  Well, first and foremost, the 
appearances and personalization link isn't there, and while the 
personalization and taskbar and start menu properties links are there, 
this selection to choose the classic start menu is simply not there.


All I've got on that tab is a customize button, and a few other things, 
like show recent programs and recent files checkboxes, and one other 
thing, but like I said, I've gone through the entire thing, and nothing is 
thee.


So, does anyone have any suggestions?

I've also found that the start menu has two icons for Internet Explorer, 
one for 64 bit, and another stating just Internet Explorer.  I figured out 
that it's the second one I want, but there isn't even one on the desktop.


I've got other icons like computer and control panel on the desktop, but 
the important ones like Internet Explorer and a few others I was looking 
for just aren't there.


So, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Please?

Thanks.

Scorpio
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Re: [Blind-Computing] transfer to cd

2010-07-08 Thread David Ferrin
Oh you blew it big time mentioning a cracked copy of a program on this list. 
We have a zero tolerance polacy about such things.

David Ferrin
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] transfer to cd



hello list members
a while ago i had jaws 9.0 on cd
yes it was a crack copy so contained an extra folder
however i seem to of mislaid the cd and wondered if it can be put on to 
another cd
i know that no one has a copy i can have so i wondered about another way 
of doing this
is it possible to copy the entire jaws folders from my computer to a cd 
and if so how would i do this
i know about cd copying with Nero but have never taken anything from the 
computer and burnt to a cd

any help to do this would be appreciated

thank you

Yvonne
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[Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Rick Watson
Good morning listers,
Has anyone out there compared the pearl / openbook and eye-pal systems. Both 
are camera based and portable solutions for reading. I would like to know if 
people have a preference and both good and bad qualities of these systems.
thanks


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
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www.Ecke.com
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[Blind-Computing] Dialog box relative to Personal Reminder

2010-07-08 Thread Pedro Romero
Hello all. I recently uninstalled Personal Reminder from my computer and now, 
whenever I boot up my system, I get the following dialog box. It says:
---
PersonalReminder: ERROR
---
Unable to open language file. Program will exit
---
OK   
---
Note: I am running Windows XP SP 3. 
Question: What else must I delete in order not to continue to get this message. 
All help will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Pete
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[Blind-Computing] GMail

2010-07-08 Thread David Ferrin
After all of the discussion on hear regarding this topic I decided to go and 
take a look at setting up such an animal. I'm pleased to report that thanks to 
web visum and about 10 or 15 minutes of my time the account was successfully 
created and in business. There really isn't much to do so give it a try those 
of you who have not taken the plunge so to speak. 
David Ferrin
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Re: [Blind-Computing] filing question

2010-07-08 Thread eden kizer

On 7/8/2010 8:09 AM, Cliff Smales wrote:

I've been looking at a website that offers Old Time Radio in MP3 format.

How many MP3 files, of either  30 or  60 minutes duration will fit on a CD?

Cliff Smales
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I do not know how many willl fit depending on how many megs, but I'd 
love to know the site.

Eden

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Re: [Blind-Computing] filing question

2010-07-08 Thread David Ferrin
Please top post. What that means is put your own message at the top with the 
original afterwards.

David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] filing question



On 7/8/2010 8:09 AM, Cliff Smales wrote:

I've been looking at a website that offers Old Time Radio in MP3 format.

How many MP3 files, of either  30 or  60 minutes duration will fit on a 
CD?


Cliff Smales
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I do not know how many willl fit depending on how many megs, but I'd love 
to know the site.

Eden

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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Patricia
I was over at the NFB yesterday and none other than Eric Damary gave me a 
demo of the Pearl and it was nice indeed for $600 with OB 9. the Pearl is 
totally portable folds down into a nice case. The reading quality was very 
clear and concise.
The Pearl looks sort of like what the old goose lamps look like if you 
happen to remember what those looked like, but not as fat.

I didn't see or use the other model..

Patricia

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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



Good morning listers,
Has anyone out there compared the pearl / openbook and eye-pal systems. 
Both are camera based and portable solutions for reading. I would like to 
know if people have a preference and both good and bad qualities of these 
systems.

thanks


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
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152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Rick Watson
Good morning,
thank you for the information. Do you happen to know what operating system was 
on the computer?
also does jaws need to be running to make openbook speak?


Rick Watson
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Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patricia
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:20 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

I was over at the NFB yesterday and none other than Eric Damary gave me a
demo of the Pearl and it was nice indeed for $600 with OB 9. the Pearl is
totally portable folds down into a nice case. The reading quality was very
clear and concise.
The Pearl looks sort of like what the old goose lamps look like if you
happen to remember what those looked like, but not as fat.
I didn't see or use the other model..

Patricia

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From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal


 Good morning listers,
 Has anyone out there compared the pearl / openbook and eye-pal systems.
 Both are camera based and portable solutions for reading. I would like to
 know if people have a preference and both good and bad qualities of these
 systems.
 thanks


 Rick Watson
 IS Department
 Paul Ecke Ranch
 mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
 www.Ecke.com
 Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

 152 Oglevee Lane
 Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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[Blind-Computing] Facebook

2010-07-08 Thread Patricia
I would like to say that I was able to set up my own facebook account using 
no captuas or any sighted assistance. The audible message is clear and easy 
to repeat in the lil' edit box.

It is better to use the m.facebook version though..

Patricia 



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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Patricia
I asked Eric bout that, he said xp still works and that's what he had on a 
laptop there with the Pearl. It's totally portable really folds up nicely 
and they give a very nice leather padded case to carry it in, it uses 
elegance and Open Book 9. He said the upgrade from 8 to 9 would cost without 
an SMA $150. The SMA only applies to OB not Jaws.
But it uses the same kieys to scan as I use now. It makes that sound like a 
camera flash then reads it back rather quickly..


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From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



Good morning,
thank you for the information. Do you happen to know what operating system 
was on the computer?

also does jaws need to be running to make openbook speak?


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com 
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patricia

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:20 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

I was over at the NFB yesterday and none other than Eric Damary gave me a
demo of the Pearl and it was nice indeed for $600 with OB 9. the Pearl is
totally portable folds down into a nice case. The reading quality was very
clear and concise.
The Pearl looks sort of like what the old goose lamps look like if you
happen to remember what those looked like, but not as fat.
I didn't see or use the other model..

Patricia

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From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



Good morning listers,
Has anyone out there compared the pearl / openbook and eye-pal systems.
Both are camera based and portable solutions for reading. I would like to
know if people have a preference and both good and bad qualities of these
systems.
thanks


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
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www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Patricia
This might be your solution. It was fast and the price plus the portability 
might be your idea choice. The Pearl is no bigger than a desk lamp very 
streamline would need to sit on top of a desk or other surface as for the 
height extension of the device it's self. A flat bed scanner with a lid 
needs a certain clearance to use as well anyways, but not portable as in 
this device. If that didn't suit your needs, then go for the NFB reader for 
your cell which does a pretty good job of scanning too, that doesn't get any 
more portable..
You can get that, as well as color identifier, Mobil speaks on a phone for 
$1200.


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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal


I'm debating about ordering the camera for now because the 600 price ends 
july 15. My current system uses a regular flatbed scanner and I would like 
something with more speed.

scanning books with a flatbed works but takes forever.


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patricia

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:45 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

I asked Eric bout that, he said xp still works and that's what he had on a
laptop there with the Pearl. It's totally portable really folds up nicely
and they give a very nice leather padded case to carry it in, it uses
elegance and Open Book 9. He said the upgrade from 8 to 9 would cost 
without

an SMA $150. The SMA only applies to OB not Jaws.
But it uses the same kieys to scan as I use now. It makes that sound like 
a

camera flash then reads it back rather quickly..

- Original Message -
From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



Good morning,
thank you for the information. Do you happen to know what operating 
system

was on the computer?
also does jaws need to be running to make openbook speak?


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patricia
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:20 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

I was over at the NFB yesterday and none other than Eric Damary gave me a
demo of the Pearl and it was nice indeed for $600 with OB 9. the Pearl is
totally portable folds down into a nice case. The reading quality was 
very

clear and concise.
The Pearl looks sort of like what the old goose lamps look like if you
happen to remember what those looked like, but not as fat.
I didn't see or use the other model..

Patricia

- Original Message -
From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



Good morning listers,
Has anyone out there compared the pearl / openbook and eye-pal systems.
Both are camera based and portable solutions for reading. I would like 
to
know if people have a preference and both good and bad qualities of 
these

systems.
thanks


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread First CRC Tom Vos
I talked with sales at FS on Tuesday this week, and The introductory
offer on the Pearl has been extended to August 31.
Which, I suppose, means it is a little behind schedule.
Blessings,
Tom


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Re: [Blind-Computing] GMail

2010-07-08 Thread Francis E. Khan
Pardon my ignorance on this but what is web bisum.  What does it do and 
where do I find it?
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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] GMail


After all of the discussion on hear regarding this topic I decided to go 
and take a look at setting up such an animal. I'm pleased to report that 
thanks to web visum and about 10 or 15 minutes of my time the account was 
successfully created and in business. There really isn't much to do so 
give it a try those of you who have not taken the plunge so to speak.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] GMail

2010-07-08 Thread Hamid AITOUZNAG

Hi there,

WebVisum is a service that's provided by Mozilla to help blind and 
visually impaired people solve the capchas while registering or signing 
up for websites and online services. A capcha is a visual verification 
that one has to solve in order to get an account or access to the needed 
service. Hope that helps...


Hamid AITOUZNAG
On 08/07/2010 16:29, Francis E. Khan wrote:
Pardon my ignorance on this but what is web bisum.  What does it do 
and where do I find it?

- Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] GMail


After all of the discussion on hear regarding this topic I decided to 
go and take a look at setting up such an animal. I'm pleased to 
report that thanks to web visum and about 10 or 15 minutes of my time 
the account was successfully created and in business. There really 
isn't much to do so give it a try those of you who have not taken the 
plunge so to speak.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Gerald Levy


Or maybe they're not selling as well as FS had expected, so they extended 
the introductory price.


Gerald


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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



I talked with sales at FS on Tuesday this week, and The introductory
offer on the Pearl has been extended to August 31.
Which, I suppose, means it is a little behind schedule.
Blessings,
Tom


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[Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and KNFB reader

2010-07-08 Thread sister Heather Albright
Hay does the KNFB reader ever going to just have the reader again?  I don't 
want a t-mobile phone just so I can get a reader, that is just wrong!  Heather 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] GMail

2010-07-08 Thread Francis E. Khan

Yes, it does.
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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] GMail



Hi there,

WebVisum is a service that's provided by Mozilla to help blind and 
visually impaired people solve the capchas while registering or signing 
up for websites and online services. A capcha is a visual verification 
that one has to solve in order to get an account or access to the needed 
service. Hope that helps...


Hamid AITOUZNAG
On 08/07/2010 16:29, Francis E. Khan wrote:
Pardon my ignorance on this but what is web bisum.  What does it do 
and where do I find it?

- Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] GMail


After all of the discussion on hear regarding this topic I decided to 
go and take a look at setting up such an animal. I'm pleased to 
report that thanks to web visum and about 10 or 15 minutes of my time 
the account was successfully created and in business. There really 
isn't much to do so give it a try those of you who have not taken the 
plunge so to speak.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Rick Watson
Good afternoon,
I was going to download the ob 9 demo but it is not yet posted. Maybe that's 
not ready yet.


Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
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www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:54 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal


Or maybe they're not selling as well as FS had expected, so they extended
the introductory price.

Gerald


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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal


I talked with sales at FS on Tuesday this week, and The introductory
 offer on the Pearl has been extended to August 31.
 Which, I suppose, means it is a little behind schedule.
 Blessings,
 Tom

 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Patricia
That's odd, I seem to remember getting a newsletter from Fs telling about 
the v/9.


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From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



Good afternoon,
I was going to download the ob 9 demo but it is not yet posted. Maybe 
that's not ready yet.



Rick Watson
IS Department
Paul Ecke Ranch
mailto:rwat...@eckeranch.com
www.Ecke.com
Tel. (724)628-8360 x 108

152 Oglevee Lane
Connellsville, Pa. 15425


-Original Message-
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com 
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:54 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal


Or maybe they're not selling as well as FS had expected, so they extended
the introductory price.

Gerald


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From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal



I talked with sales at FS on Tuesday this week, and The introductory
offer on the Pearl has been extended to August 31.
Which, I suppose, means it is a little behind schedule.
Blessings,
Tom


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Re: [Blind-Computing] About Daisy

2010-07-08 Thread Donald Marang
Check out daisy.org.  It is a wealth of information and tools.  There is a 
free authoring tool and a plug-in to save a Word document to a daisy format. 
This is not a conversion utility, more of a simplified authoring tool.


Don Marang

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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:48 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] About Daisy


Hi All:

1. I would like to know more about Daisy. Is there any website or URL
from where can get more info.

2. I would like to know if word, excel, power point and HTML formats
can be accessed in Daisy formats.
3. And I would like to know if any other formats can be accessed in
Daisy formats.

4. I would like to know the extension of .ODT.

Thanks and regards,
Silpa.

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[Blind-Computing] External drives

2010-07-08 Thread Maria Campbell
I've just acquired a 1T external drive with it's own power supply.
Is it best to keep it plugged in and connected to the PC?
I have a laptop that I turn off at night.
Thanks for any info.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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Re: [Blind-Computing] External drives

2010-07-08 Thread sister Heather Albright
I only connect mine if I want to put something on it!  Also, if you are going 
to have it on constantly, add it to your virus scan.  Heather 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] External drives

2010-07-08 Thread matthew


Just turn it off when you turn off the laptop at night and on when you 
use the laptop that is what i do.


On 7/8/2010 1:17 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

I've just acquired a 1T external drive with it's own power supply.
Is it best to keep it plugged in and connected to the PC?
I have a laptop that I turn off at night.
Thanks for any info.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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Re: [Blind-Computing] External drives

2010-07-08 Thread JanetSmith

i have mine on when i need it as wellAt 01:22 PM 7/8/2010, you wrote:
I only connect mine if I want to put something on it!  Also, if you are 
going to have it on constantly, add it to your virus scan.  Heather

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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and eye-pal

2010-07-08 Thread Norma A. Boge

The current issue of Access World
has a review of the


Eye-Pal SOLO and Eye-Pal SOLO LV

http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw110304

HTH
Norma


  



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[Blind-Computing] a computer alternative to cable

2010-07-08 Thread eden kizer
Does anyone know of anything that is comparable to cable or satellite 
with real cable stations that I can use my computer to listen to? I ask 
this because the cable company up here is really being a pain about 
where I live, and I can not have a satellite in my apartment complex. I 
will have no trouble getting high-speed Internet, I will do it from 
ATT, as much as I hate it, but they only have cable through their 
Directv up here. I am not looking for some Tv service that gives you 
access to some weird channels no one has ever heard of. Any response is 
helpful. Thanks. You can write onlist or offlist at

eden...@comcast.net
Eden Kizer

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Keeping my wireless adapter connected

2010-07-08 Thread Deb Caldbeck
I believe in the recent past, I used the same Linksys wireless adaptor as
you are speaking of.  Do you plug it into one of the ports of your computer?
Well, anyway, I use a Qwest wireless adapter now, as my modem is a Qwest
modem.  But here is what happened to me and the Linksys adapter.  Hope
you've got a light probe or can get a set of eyes.  Once I had my computer
rebuilt from the Trojans, each time I turned it on, my Linksys adapter would
not come on.  I literally had to go into Control Panel under connections and
hook up to my wireless again.  Eventually, my Linksys adapter wasn't coming
on at all.  I called in a set of eyes.  Problem, no light was showing on the
Linksys adapter.  I think I may have dropped it.  It's not quite two years
old.  Anyway, went to Best Buy and for $46 got a Qwest wireless adapter.
Now adays they even install themselves.

Hope this helps!
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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of First CRC Tom
Vos
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:10 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Keeping my wireless adapter connected

I've been using a Linksys wireless adapter for quite awhile.
Every time I turned on my computer, it would automatically connect.
the last few days I've had to manually connect it each time I start the
computer.
And it's not JAWS friendly.
Anybody have an idea why this has changed?
Blessings,
Tom

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Scanned PDF Documents

2010-07-08 Thread Deanne Miller

Joyce:
There is a free online ocr service at:
http://www.onlineocr.net/

I've used it a couple of times and it seems to do a pretty good job.

Deanne

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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:24 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Scanned PDF Documents



Hi everyone.  Is there any way I could possibly read a scanned PDF
document?  It's an image, so it isn't showing up when I save it to text or
pull it into Google docs and try plain html.  I'm thinking there's not 
much

I can do but I'd like to know from those who are more tech savvy than me.
Thanks.
Joyce Espy
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[Blind-Computing] how hard to install a wireless router

2010-07-08 Thread lloydfuge352
Last night I was told that installing a wireless router to a cable is 
rather simple. Is it something that can be done without vision? The local 
cable company asks so much for making the connection that I assumed it was 
extremely difficult. If it requires vision, does it require color 
distinction since one person with vision I can ask for help is color blind.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and KNFB reader

2010-07-08 Thread Kenbu
Hi Sister Heather.  Do you happen to know the difference between the knf 
reader and the Pearl reader. From what I've read on these lists, it seems 
the Pearl has more features. Heather, do you happen to know if the Pearl is 
better?  It's possible that you don't know but thought I'd ask. Cheers; 
Kenbu
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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:01 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] comparison of pearl and KNFB reader


Hay does the KNFB reader ever going to just have the reader again?  I 
don't want a t-mobile phone just so I can get a reader, that is just 
wrong!  Heather

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Re: [Blind-Computing] how hard to install a wireless router

2010-07-08 Thread Scorpio Forever
Hello Lloyd,

While setting up a wireless router is fairly easy in terms of setting up 
encryption and the like, in other words, a Wireless password so only people 
who have the password can access it, the hardware setup can be moderate to 
advanced, depending on the type of service you have.

If you have or are looking to install a wireless router on a service 
utilizing DSL service, then it may be difficult without sighted help, as the 
installation required the installation of filters to the existing phone 
jacks, and those phone jack filters are rarely easy for a blind person to be 
able to distinguish between the line in and line out. for the router and the 
phone line.

Having said that, you said your friend is colour blind, and so the 
difficulty level drops significantly for him, as he can look at the diagrams 
on the filters to be able to distinguish between the two jacks that have to 
be plugged in.

The only problem I could see him encountering, and this would be with both 
services, cable and DSL, is being able to tell whether the router is online 
or not.

This part requires some colour identification with the lights on the router, 
and so if he cannot tell what colour the lights are, he can't advise the 
rep, if he calls, what colour they are.

With the cable service, it's a bit more simplified, as it does not involve 
any filtering of the lines, and just requires straight lines into the 
router, and those are fairly hard to miss.

In most cases though, as soon as you tell the service provider that you're 
blind/visually impaired, or even colour blind, in most cases, they are 
required to send out a tech to install the piece of equipment, as it does 
require sight to distinguish the colours on the router.

You should enquire about that.

Once the hardware is set up, the rest is fairly simple, and just involves 
logging into the router to set up any firewall, although this part is 
already configured by default, unless your friend operates a server or 
something else that would require remote access, and setting up a password 
for the wireless.

Advanced users will often access the router to increase the time out 
protocols and connection types, but these are better left alone for people 
who have little experience with those types of settings.

It's all done through your Internet browser, like Firefox or Internet 
Explorer, and does require a username and password, but that can be given to 
you by your ISP tech support.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio 


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