Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Hello there; one way to check to see which update you have is to, 1, desktop, 2, MSE press enter, 3, now tab until you hear, home button, 4, right arrow one time you should hear, update button, 5, now route jaws to pc, and read the information, you should see/hear something like; Microsoft Security Essentials Computer status - Protected Virus & spyware definitions status - Up to date Microsoft Security Essentials updates your virus & spyware definitions automatically to help protect your computer. Definitions created on: 8/11/2010 at 5:25 AM Virus definitions version: 1.87.1709.0 Update Spyware definitions version: 1.87.1709.0 Did you know? Virus & spyware definitions are files that Microsoft Security Essentials uses to identify malicious or potentially unwanted software on your computer. These definitions are updated automatically. However, if for any reason your computer's definitions don't get updated automatically, you should get the latest updates to help protect your computer. I hope this helps. - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures How can you know that the update has taken effect? marilyn - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: "Blind-Computing" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated : automatically today and earlier this week? Even when : clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't : complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in : the past and it has always self corrected in time. : : Al : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
How can you know that the update has taken effect? marilyn - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: "Blind-Computing" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated : automatically today and earlier this week? Even when : clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't : complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in : the past and it has always self corrected in time. : : Al : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
I have automatic updates turned on and the latest bunch still wasn't in my sys tray earlier this afternoon when I remembered to look before reading this thread. There were about 13 and it took ages for the machine to check for updates and supposedly download and install all of them. I'll have to go through the whole thing all over again since I don't remember any of the 13 being for IE. Yes, I had it reboot for them to take effect. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Don Marang" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures I heard about them from tech podcasts. I did not go looking for them, they were waiting to be downloaded and installed from the System Tray Tuesday night. I like to set the update setting so that I am aware of updates. This does require the user to be viligent! For most people, including my adault kids, I recommend automatic updates. Open Windows Update and check for Updates. If you use automatic updates, you can check update history to see if the IE8 and Windows 7 security updates were installed this week. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:32 PM To: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > Don, > > > I haven't been notified as I usually am about any new > security downloads needing to be installed. Did you get the > auto alert or go looking on your own? > > Al > > -Original Message- > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of > Don Marang > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:21 PM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > > > I imagine the Windows Update servers are just extremely > busy! Microsoft > released it's largest numberr of security patches to date on > Tuesday! I > think I had about 14 different security downloads waiting. > Make sure that > you have downloaded and installed all Windows Updates this > week! Now that > these vulnerabilities are publicised, the virus writers will > attack all > computers whose users are not diligent with these updates or > have it done > automatically. > > I wonder if the timing of these fixes had anything to do > with being so close > to the Black Hat Security convention recently? There was > even a major > security hole disclosed regarding ATM machines. > > Don Marang > > There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is > devoid of any real > substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure > that I am working > on things that matter. > Dean Kamen > > > -- > From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:00 AM > To: "Blind-Computing" > Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > >> Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying > updated >> automatically today and earlier this week? Even when >> clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it > won't >> complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally > in >> the past and it has always self corrected in time. >> >> Al >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
THere are over 400 forum comments on that page. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara Arcadia" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : Hi Alan & Yvonne; : : I always use the link below to update MSSE. It seems to work much better. : : http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx : : You have to arrow down a ways to get to the MSSE update buttons. Hope this : helps. Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: yvonne oliver : To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:29 AM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : : : hello : not yet but how do i update? : i can find no update link : where would it be and how do you do this? : thank you : Yvonne : - Original Message - : From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" : To: "Blind-Computing" : Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:00 PM : Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : : : > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated : > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when : > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't : > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in : > the past and it has always self corrected in time. : > : > Al : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Yes. In fact, even though I have it set just to notify me if important updates, so that I can review them before installing, it will still update the virus definitions at least once a day automatically. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Marilyn Walker" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:49 PM To: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures Don, I have auto updates turned on so does that mean the updates come in and are installed automatically as well? Marilyn - Original Message - From: "Don Marang" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures :I imagine the Windows Update servers are just extremely busy! Microsoft : released it's largest numberr of security patches to date on Tuesday! I : think I had about 14 different security downloads waiting. Make sure that : you have downloaded and installed all Windows Updates this week! Now that : these vulnerabilities are publicised, the virus writers will attack all : computers whose users are not diligent with these updates or have it done : automatically. : : I wonder if the timing of these fixes had anything to do with being so close : to the Black Hat Security convention recently? There was even a major : security hole disclosed regarding ATM machines. : : Don Marang : : There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real : substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working : on things that matter. : Dean Kamen : : : -- : From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" : Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:00 AM : To: "Blind-Computing" : Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : : > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated : > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when : > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't : > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in : > the past and it has always self corrected in time. : > : > Al : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Don, I have auto updates turned on so does that mean the updates come in and are installed automatically as well? Marilyn - Original Message - From: "Don Marang" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures :I imagine the Windows Update servers are just extremely busy! Microsoft : released it's largest numberr of security patches to date on Tuesday! I : think I had about 14 different security downloads waiting. Make sure that : you have downloaded and installed all Windows Updates this week! Now that : these vulnerabilities are publicised, the virus writers will attack all : computers whose users are not diligent with these updates or have it done : automatically. : : I wonder if the timing of these fixes had anything to do with being so close : to the Black Hat Security convention recently? There was even a major : security hole disclosed regarding ATM machines. : : Don Marang : : There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real : substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working : on things that matter. : Dean Kamen : : : -- : From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" : Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:00 AM : To: "Blind-Computing" : Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures : : > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated : > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when : > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't : > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in : > the past and it has always self corrected in time. : > : > Al : > : > : > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : > : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
I heard about them from tech podcasts. I did not go looking for them, they were waiting to be downloaded and installed from the System Tray Tuesday night. I like to set the update setting so that I am aware of updates. This does require the user to be viligent! For most people, including my adault kids, I recommend automatic updates. Open Windows Update and check for Updates. If you use automatic updates, you can check update history to see if the IE8 and Windows 7 security updates were installed this week. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:32 PM To: Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures Don, I haven't been notified as I usually am about any new security downloads needing to be installed. Did you get the auto alert or go looking on your own? Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Don Marang Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:21 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures I imagine the Windows Update servers are just extremely busy! Microsoft released it's largest numberr of security patches to date on Tuesday! I think I had about 14 different security downloads waiting. Make sure that you have downloaded and installed all Windows Updates this week! Now that these vulnerabilities are publicised, the virus writers will attack all computers whose users are not diligent with these updates or have it done automatically. I wonder if the timing of these fixes had anything to do with being so close to the Black Hat Security convention recently? There was even a major security hole disclosed regarding ATM machines. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:00 AM To: "Blind-Computing" Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated automatically today and earlier this week? Even when clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in the past and it has always self corrected in time. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Don, I haven't been notified as I usually am about any new security downloads needing to be installed. Did you get the auto alert or go looking on your own? Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Don Marang Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:21 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures I imagine the Windows Update servers are just extremely busy! Microsoft released it's largest numberr of security patches to date on Tuesday! I think I had about 14 different security downloads waiting. Make sure that you have downloaded and installed all Windows Updates this week! Now that these vulnerabilities are publicised, the virus writers will attack all computers whose users are not diligent with these updates or have it done automatically. I wonder if the timing of these fixes had anything to do with being so close to the Black Hat Security convention recently? There was even a major security hole disclosed regarding ATM machines. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:00 AM To: "Blind-Computing" Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in > the past and it has always self corrected in time. > > Al > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
I imagine the Windows Update servers are just extremely busy! Microsoft released it's largest numberr of security patches to date on Tuesday! I think I had about 14 different security downloads waiting. Make sure that you have downloaded and installed all Windows Updates this week! Now that these vulnerabilities are publicised, the virus writers will attack all computers whose users are not diligent with these updates or have it done automatically. I wonder if the timing of these fixes had anything to do with being so close to the Black Hat Security convention recently? There was even a major security hole disclosed regarding ATM machines. Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:00 AM To: "Blind-Computing" Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated automatically today and earlier this week? Even when clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in the past and it has always self corrected in time. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Mike Thanks, just checked this out and will save in favorites. This is very helpful Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Mike & Barbara Arcadia Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:50 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures Hi Alan & Yvonne; I always use the link below to update MSSE. It seems to work much better. http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.asp x You have to arrow down a ways to get to the MSSE update buttons. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: yvonne oliver To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures hello not yet but how do i update? i can find no update link where would it be and how do you do this? thank you Yvonne - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: "Blind-Computing" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in > the past and it has always self corrected in time. > > Al > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Open the MSE shortcut on your desktop and tab around and you should land on it. To read much of the info in the MSE box just use your JAWS cursor Al Al -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of yvonne oliver Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:30 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures hello not yet but how do i update? i can find no update link where would it be and how do you do this? thank you Yvonne - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: "Blind-Computing" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in > the past and it has always self corrected in time. > > Al > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Hi Alan & Yvonne; I always use the link below to update MSSE. It seems to work much better. http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx You have to arrow down a ways to get to the MSSE update buttons. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: yvonne oliver To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures hello not yet but how do i update? i can find no update link where would it be and how do you do this? thank you Yvonne - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: "Blind-Computing" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures > Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated > automatically today and earlier this week? Even when > clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't > complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in > the past and it has always self corrected in time. > > Al > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
hello not yet but how do i update? i can find no update link where would it be and how do you do this? thank you Yvonne - Original Message - From: "Alan & Terrie Robbins" To: "Blind-Computing" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSE update failures Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated automatically today and earlier this week? Even when clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in the past and it has always self corrected in time. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] MSE update failures
Anyone else been having difficulty with MSE staying updated automatically today and earlier this week? Even when clicking on the update button in the MSE interface it won't complete successfully. I've had this problem occasionally in the past and it has always self corrected in time. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
