Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Dan, Listen a bit more carefully to the messages. At one point the system asks you to press Alt R. It takes about 50 seconds to load so be patient. It works Dan, believe me. John Justice - Original Message - From: Dan Mccurley bearea...@bellsouth.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON When we try that site, it says welcome to system access, press enter to begin. When we press enter it just repeats the welcome phrase. How do you gain access to the site in order to set up an account and what is the price of this program? beareau...@bellsouth.net Thanks from Dan and Julie - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks John, just did that. Put the website on my favorites. Deb -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, John. You also have to unload Jaws. I figured it out yesterday when I went on system access to go. It does take awhile to load but I was finally able to create a new free account. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: Dan Mccurley bearea...@bellsouth.net; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Dan, Listen a bit more carefully to the messages. At one point the system asks you to press Alt R. It takes about 50 seconds to load so be patient. It works Dan, believe me. John Justice - Original Message - From: Dan Mccurley bearea...@bellsouth.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON When we try that site, it says welcome to system access, press enter to begin. When we press enter it just repeats the welcome phrase. How do you gain access to the site in order to set up an account and what is the price of this program? beareau...@bellsouth.net Thanks from Dan and Julie - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks John, just did that. Put the website on my favorites. Deb -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
If you want to run System Access To Go (http://satogo.com) try turning off any screen readers that you have running and then access that site. Frank Ventura, MCP -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, David. I tried the procedure and got a message that said system access was unable to start. I even contacted Serotek by email but how do you set internet explorer to the default settings? I'm running windows XP home eddition with service pack 2 and internet explorer 6. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Will await your reply. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Deb. System access to go wouldn't start for me either. I wanted to go on it so I could re-register but I couldn't even get in. I contacted Serotek by email and they said to set internet explorer to the default settings. I tried doing that and I still got the same message that system access wouldn't be able to start. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: 'Dan Mccurley' bearea...@bellsouth.net; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first
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Seems to be ok here, but is very slow at downloading. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallswort...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, Deb. System access to go wouldn't start for me either. I wanted to go on it so I could re-register but I couldn't even get in. I contacted Serotek by email and they said to set internet explorer to the default settings. I tried doing that and I still got the same message that system access wouldn't be able to start. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: 'Dan Mccurley' bearea...@bellsouth.net; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access
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David, I have the paid version of AVG, and it will read the message so you can allow it through the Fire Wall. Hope this helps someone. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part
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Interesting I also have the paid version of AVG 8 but System Access does not appear to be able to read the buttons on the Firewall alert message. Jaws has no problem reading these messages. However, given that system Access appears to be able to read some web pages that Jaws cannot cope with the answer appears to be have a range of screen reader tools available to cope with whatever problem gets thrown at you. Ironically Jaws has just crashed on my system as I am typing this. I would normally switch to NVDA to finish what I am doing and restart my PC. However there is a problem with NVDA using Microsoft Outlook . Rather than losing the email I remembered that my old copy of ZoomText had a screen reader so I am using this to finish off my email! I have ended up using 3 screen readers in less than an hour. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 21:10 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON David, I have the paid version of AVG, and it will read the message so you can allow it through the Fire Wall. Hope this helps someone. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON The procedure from what I remember is as follows. Type www.serotek.com in your run dialogue box. The Serotek page should tell you to press alt plus s to start System Access. The Serotek page should then prompt you to press alt plus r. This will run a short program which installs the Free mobile version of system Access on your PC. You now have System Access working in browser only mode. To get it to work as a full screen reader you need to activate your software. System Access also ask you to register though this does not appear compulsory. If you register System Access will email you a free login and pin. One possible problem may be allowing access to System access through your firewall. On my firewall System Access does not read the pop up message from AVG firewall so I had to revert to Jaws to get this permission sorted. Regards David Griffith My Low Vision Resources Web Site is http://www.nonags.org/members/dajgriff/ -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Deb Caldbeck Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 14:07 To: 'Dan Mccurley'; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Here is how I dgot System Access site to work. I closed all programs. Opened my web browser and entered the site name. Then with JAWS still running I entered on begin. I did not shut JAWS off until I had System Access installed. Hope this helps! Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Mccurley Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON What is the difference between nvida and system access to go? I couldn't access either website. On the system access to go, it gave a welcome message and to hit enter to begin then threw me back to the blind computing message. beareau...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you
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Hi Oddly, on my system satogo uses the scroll lock instead of the jaws key which in my case is the caps lock. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, Mark. You unload satogo with the sane keystrokes you use to unload Jaws. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi I have to download the file from the link each time I want to use it. On my laptop if I use alt F4 to unload the program, I have to reboot the computer before reloading it. I believe there is a correct way to unload the s a to go program where one can reload it with out restarting one's computer but I haven't read much in the manual either. I have only been using the program for two or three days. I am glad it is a help. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body
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Hello There! I am very intrested in the nvda project, it is very good. I have installed the beta version, but I found, that braille display can be added there, but how? I have a handy tech modular 40, name is handy tech braille top 1.2 Thanks, and god bless! Lali mail: b.lal...@freemail.hu msn: b.lal...@hotmail.com yahoo: b.lal...@yahoo.com jabber: lalee1 skype: b.lali86 aim: blali21 icq: 396448006 gadu-gadu 1543670 --- avast! Antivirus: Ausgehende Nachricht sauber. Virus-Datenbank (VPS): 090124-0, 2009.01.24 Getestet um: 2009.01.25. 11:37:44 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
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No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
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Thanks John, just did that. Put the website on my favorites. Deb -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:33 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
I am not sure about the last preview, but if you download the snapshot versions from www.nvda-project.org/snapshots you can select the BRLTTY and your display should work. Thanks Nimer J lali wrote: Hello There! I am very intrested in the nvda project, it is very good. I have installed the beta version, but I found, that braille display can be added there, but how? I have a handy tech modular 40, name is handy tech braille top 1.2 Thanks, and god bless! Lali mail: b.lal...@freemail.hu msn: b.lal...@hotmail.com yahoo: b.lal...@yahoo.com jabber: lalee1 skype: b.lali86 aim: blali21 icq: 396448006 gadu-gadu 1543670 --- avast! Antivirus: Ausgehende Nachricht sauber. Virus-Datenbank (VPS): 090124-0, 2009.01.24 Getestet um: 2009.01.25. 11:37:44 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, John. It really is incredible what system access to go can do. I signed up for a free account where I log into the site to use the screen reader and it's wonderful. It really is amazing that you can use it on any computer. All you have to do is log in type in your account number (phone number), your pin number and you're good to go. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I wonder if people realize just how incredible that is? You sit down at a computer where you've never been before. With a few keystrokes or even a thumb drive if you're a paying customer, you can activate a screen reader and navigate quite a bit. Sure, it's limited but can some of these other screen readers do that? I know I'm a newby to this technology and maybe that's why I think it's amazing. Good to hear from you Rosemary. John - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, John. I use system access to go when I shop on the Albertsons website and it's wonderful. I don't get that weird technical error message when I'm trying to read my order to see if it went through. I like that you can use it on any computer. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: JOHN JUSTICE john_just...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON No Deb. You don't download that program unless you are a paying customer. You can use it free by signing up, getting your account number and PIN, then going to the site, http://www.satogo.com and signing in again. Now, once SA is running, you can move to any site you want and it will keep on going. That's how it works. The idea was to create a speech driven screen reader which is accessible to anyone on any computer with a sound board. The great part is that you can change the voices, speed, volume and so on and then save them. If you have an account, you can then bring up that screen reader wherever you are. I used it once at my niece's house and she and her husband were amazed. I could navigate her computer resonably well except for the areas where she had changed things like the screen magnification and things like that. What an incredibel tool! John Justice - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, Light Snow; Mist Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, Light Snow; Mist Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Deb. Whenever I shop on the Albertsons website, I try to read my order to see if it really went through but I get a message that says you have encountered a technical problem. Please close your browser and try again. That's when I'm using Jaws. The weird thing is when I use system access to go, I don't get that error message. Isn't that strange? Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi I have to download the file from the link each time I want to use it. On my laptop if I use alt F4 to unload the program, I have to reboot the computer before reloading it. I believe there is a correct way to unload the s a to go program where one can reload it with out restarting one's computer but I haven't read much in the manual either. I have only been using the program for two or three days. I am glad it is a help. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, Light Snow; Mist Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Mark. You unload satogo with the sane keystrokes you use to unload Jaws. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi I have to download the file from the link each time I want to use it. On my laptop if I use alt F4 to unload the program, I have to reboot the computer before reloading it. I believe there is a correct way to unload the s a to go program where one can reload it with out restarting one's computer but I haven't read much in the manual either. I have only been using the program for two or three days. I am glad it is a help. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, Light Snow; Mist
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
Hi, Mark. How do you find the manual for satogo? Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi I have to download the file from the link each time I want to use it. On my laptop if I use alt F4 to unload the program, I have to reboot the computer before reloading it. I believe there is a correct way to unload the s a to go program where one can reload it with out restarting one's computer but I haven't read much in the manual either. I have only been using the program for two or three days. I am glad it is a help. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, Oregon Overcast, Light Snow; Mist Visit the JAWS Users List home
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
try this link All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, Mark. How do you find the manual for satogo? Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi I have to download the file from the link each time I want to use it. On my laptop if I use alt F4 to unload the program, I have to reboot the computer before reloading it. I believe there is a correct way to unload the s a to go program where one can reload it with out restarting one's computer but I haven't read much in the manual either. I have only been using the program for two or three days. I am glad it is a help. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management
Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON
sorry here is the link. http://help.samobile.net/ All of my outgoing messages are scanned by Avast! - Original Message - From: Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi, Mark. How do you find the manual for satogo? Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Mark torgersonena...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi I have to download the file from the link each time I want to use it. On my laptop if I use alt F4 to unload the program, I have to reboot the computer before reloading it. I believe there is a correct way to unload the s a to go program where one can reload it with out restarting one's computer but I haven't read much in the manual either. I have only been using the program for two or three days. I am glad it is a help. God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks Mark, got it downloaded and was able to read www.abc.com. Was able to unload System Access To Go, but how do I reload it? I did download the zip file but haven't had time to read it yet. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:39 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Hi System access can be found at: http://www.satogo.com God bless, Mark - Original Message - From: Deb Caldbeck industcoldstr...@dwx.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON Thanks, John, will Google and download System Access. Debbie -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN JUSTICE Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:11 PM To: BLIND COMPUTING MAILING LIST Subject: [Blind-Computing] NVDA VERSUS SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, COMPARISON I used the web site http://www.xmradio.com as a test and ran both screen readers. I tried to use NVDA first. On that web site you will need to choose Full Channel Line Up to experience the same situation. With Jaws and NVDA , the speech quit almost immediately. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I believe that the problem exists in the fact that there are Flash links all over this page. Jaws and NVDA both got jammed up by these links and quit entirely. There was literally no way to get them back and I tried everything. Next, I took System Access To Go for a spin and what do you know, it worked! For some reason, I'm still not sure why, SA read the links but did not get hung up. On our list is a member called Debbie. She mentioned a web site provided by ABC, http://www.abc.com and I think that this site has the same problems as the newly designed XM Radio page does. CONCLUSION: For some limited purposes, System Access, although it's a very limited tool, will work where Jaws and NVDA do not. I thought some of the people here might find this interesting. John and Linda Justice With guide dogs Jake and Zachary Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address in order to contact the management team blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the following address: jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Visit the Blind Computing home page at: http://www.blind-computing.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ To post to this group, send email to blind-computing@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com Use the following address
