Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on WebPages
I understand, since it is an intra net item can you check with the page creators, to see if the table does in fact include headers, and/or you might be able to check for yourself by looking up tables on the w3cschools.com website to find out what a table header tag command is (I can't remember off the top of my head) and then opening the page, and going into your browsers view menu and finding a source option, this will show you what is behind the nicely printed page to the code that runs it HTH, inthane -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:23 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on WebPages Hi, Thank you for your email and support. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to share the web address of the page I am having trouble with. The page in question is on our companies intranet, it requires authorized access, hence the limitation in sharing the URL. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthaneelf Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on WebPages some of your troubles may be that the table is used as a layout formatting device and due to this has no headers in it. can you give us an example of a site that your having trouble with? so we can go take a look at it. inthane -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:28 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] Tables on Webpages Hello, I write to seek your assistance on this issue I am trying to resolve. On many webpages I come across tables that are not structured as tables, yet they appear and are identified by JAWS as tables. I can navigate them using the navigation keys for tables, but I can't get JAWS to read the column headings. I tried to get into table layer mode, JAWS KEY + SPACEBAR + T, but this too does not help in announcing the column headings/ titles. Any suggestions on how I can be helped in this situation will be highly appreciated. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on WebPages
Hi, Thank you for your email and support. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to share the web address of the page I am having trouble with. The page in question is on our companies intranet, it requires authorized access, hence the limitation in sharing the URL. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthaneelf Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:00 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on WebPages some of your troubles may be that the table is used as a layout formatting device and due to this has no headers in it. can you give us an example of a site that your having trouble with? so we can go take a look at it. inthane -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:28 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] Tables on Webpages Hello, I write to seek your assistance on this issue I am trying to resolve. On many webpages I come across tables that are not structured as tables, yet they appear and are identified by JAWS as tables. I can navigate them using the navigation keys for tables, but I can't get JAWS to read the column headings. I tried to get into table layer mode, JAWS KEY + SPACEBAR + T, but this too does not help in announcing the column headings/ titles. Any suggestions on how I can be helped in this situation will be highly appreciated. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on Webpages
Hi, Thanks for your email and support. This is exactly what I tried first, and it works wonders on all the pages except the one in question. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to share the web address of the page I am having trouble with. The page in question is on our companies intranet, it requires authorized access, hence the limitation in sharing the URL. So far I have been using sighted help in my office to get my job accomplished on that page, which needs to be done once every month. We call it the time sheet entry, some kind of billing tool to keep record of man hours allocated to a project. I think using the jaws cursor also helps to a certain extent. I am not saying that I can't do the job at all, but would have preffered if JAWS could announce the column headings, in this case they contain the day of the week and the date for each column in the row below we need to fill out 9 hours, hard to tell if that day was a company off, if you dont get the date announced. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:10 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on Webpages You need to set the settings for Table Titles. In Internet Explorer or Firefox, press Insert + v for the Quick Settings dialog. Type in the word table into the search box. Now arrow down to Table Titles, and hit the Enter key. Press Space to change this value. The default is to read only properly labeled titles coded into the HTML of the webpage. If you select rows and columns, it will announce the first row and column as the titles. Hit the Enter key again to save the new setting. *Don Marang* Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org http://www.vinuxproject.org/ On 11/26/2012 10:28 PM, Mujtaba Merchant wrote: Hello, I write to seek your assistance on this issue I am trying to resolve. On many webpages I come across tables that are not structured as tables, yet they appear and are identified by JAWS as tables. I can navigate them using the navigation keys for tables, but I can't get JAWS to read the column headings. I tried to get into table layer mode, JAWS KEY + SPACEBAR + T, but this too does not help in announcing the column headings/ titles. Any suggestions on how I can be helped in this situation will be highly appreciated. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on WebPages
some of your troubles may be that the table is used as a layout formatting device and due to this has no headers in it. can you give us an example of a site that your having trouble with? so we can go take a look at it. inthane -Original Message- From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:28 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] Tables on Webpages Hello, I write to seek your assistance on this issue I am trying to resolve. On many webpages I come across tables that are not structured as tables, yet they appear and are identified by JAWS as tables. I can navigate them using the navigation keys for tables, but I can't get JAWS to read the column headings. I tried to get into table layer mode, JAWS KEY + SPACEBAR + T, but this too does not help in announcing the column headings/ titles. Any suggestions on how I can be helped in this situation will be highly appreciated. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Tables on Webpages
You need to set the settings for Table Titles. In Internet Explorer or Firefox, press Insert + v for the Quick Settings dialog. Type in the word table into the search box. Now arrow down to Table Titles, and hit the Enter key. Press Space to change this value. The default is to read only properly labeled titles coded into the HTML of the webpage. If you select rows and columns, it will announce the first row and column as the titles. Hit the Enter key again to save the new setting. *Don Marang* Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org http://www.vinuxproject.org/ On 11/26/2012 10:28 PM, Mujtaba Merchant wrote: Hello, I write to seek your assistance on this issue I am trying to resolve. On many webpages I come across tables that are not structured as tables, yet they appear and are identified by JAWS as tables. I can navigate them using the navigation keys for tables, but I can't get JAWS to read the column headings. I tried to get into table layer mode, JAWS KEY + SPACEBAR + T, but this too does not help in announcing the column headings/ titles. Any suggestions on how I can be helped in this situation will be highly appreciated. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
