Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
Thanks for those great tips! -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:56 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Hi Ah perhaps that is the difference I am using Jaws 12. I have just pressed Control r and here I am. Try pressing f6 until you hear Mail and then arrow down util you hear contacts and press enter. You will now be in the list of your contacts where you can right clink on the desired contact to email them. To get back to the maill window press f6 again until you hear Mail and press enter. Not sure about altering columns, dont use that much, but I am sure I altered them once because I removed the sender name fom a particular folder and found it did it to all folders which I did not want soe I turned it back on so I believe things can be done with columns. I must admit when replying to a message it is not all together clear where you are but a quick tab or shift tab will move jaws so as you know here you are etc., I also find when I am in the message area it is silent and to have to press insert Z to turn off the current navigation mode otherwise it will not type. Once you have sent your message remember to press Insert Z again otherwise messages will not be read automaticaly. Best of luck Graham -Original Message- From: Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:52 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible OK Graham, something is really amiss here because I'm finding it difficult to: 1) rearrange the columns in the header page 2) send replies (or any compose any e-mail) Which version of JAWS are you using? Perhaps that's the difference. I find no appreciable relief when switching to JAWS 11 over JAWS 10. -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:31 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net - "A WOMAN'S MIND IS CLEANER THAN A MAN'S BECAUSE SHE CHANGES IT MORE OFTEN!" - Source Unknown For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
Hello bill; well, the instructions I gave you would work with jaws12, however, for jaws11, they would be a little different. sorting columns; 1, open windows live mail; 2, alt+v=view; 3, now, down arrow one time; 4, here you can use either the right or left arrow key, to navigate until you hear; sort by, now, press the, spacebar or enter key, you will see the columns, which you can check or uncheck. the next thing you should do is; 1, while in windows live mail; alt+v=view; 2, down arrow one time, again, use right or left arrow keys, and navigate until you hear; message list, press the spacebar or the enter key. 3, now tab and check with spacebar, one line view; you will be then placed back into your inbox. let me no if this helps. - Original Message - From: "Bill Gallik" To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible OK Graham, something is really amiss here because I'm finding it difficult to: 1) rearrange the columns in the header page 2) send replies (or any compose any e-mail) Which version of JAWS are you using? Perhaps that's the difference. I find no appreciable relief when switching to JAWS 11 over JAWS 10. -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:31 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
yes nicely explained I have just altered my columns. There was a little confusion at the view button though. I dont believe FS have looked at this at all yes so hopefully when they do it should be good. Graham -Original Message- From: David Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:06 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Hello bill; okay, give this a try; I'm assuming your using the latest version of windows live mail, 2011. 1, open windows live mail; 2, press the alt-key, you will probably hear; home tab, right arrow until you hear; view tab; 3, now to change the columns for example, down arrow until you hear; arrangements sub-menu, right arrow to open, and now down arrow until you hear; sort by, and press the spacebar, you now can arrange the columns, another thing you should do is, again, go to the menu, right or left arrow until you hear; view tab, and down arrow until you hear; layout sub-menu, right arrow to open. now, you need to press spacebar on, message list; now, tab until you hear, one line view, and check with the spacebar, you will then be placed back into your inbox, of windows live mail. also, you can use the f6-key, and press until you hear mail, now, you can arrow down and enter on a particular choice. let me no if this works; or helps you. - Original Message - From: "Bill Gallik" To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible OK Graham, something is really amiss here because I'm finding it difficult to: 1) rearrange the columns in the header page 2) send replies (or any compose any e-mail) Which version of JAWS are you using? Perhaps that's the difference. I find no appreciable relief when switching to JAWS 11 over JAWS 10. -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:31 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
Hi Ah perhaps that is the difference I am using Jaws 12. I have just pressed Control r and here I am. Try pressing f6 until you hear Mail and then arrow down util you hear contacts and press enter. You will now be in the list of your contacts where you can right clink on the desired contact to email them. To get back to the maill window press f6 again until you hear Mail and press enter. Not sure about altering columns, dont use that much, but I am sure I altered them once because I removed the sender name fom a particular folder and found it did it to all folders which I did not want soe I turned it back on so I believe things can be done with columns. I must admit when replying to a message it is not all together clear where you are but a quick tab or shift tab will move jaws so as you know here you are etc., I also find when I am in the message area it is silent and to have to press insert Z to turn off the current navigation mode otherwise it will not type. Once you have sent your message remember to press Insert Z again otherwise messages will not be read automaticaly. Best of luck Graham -Original Message- From: Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:52 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible OK Graham, something is really amiss here because I'm finding it difficult to: 1) rearrange the columns in the header page 2) send replies (or any compose any e-mail) Which version of JAWS are you using? Perhaps that's the difference. I find no appreciable relief when switching to JAWS 11 over JAWS 10. -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:31 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
Hello bill; okay, give this a try; I'm assuming your using the latest version of windows live mail, 2011. 1, open windows live mail; 2, press the alt-key, you will probably hear; home tab, right arrow until you hear; view tab; 3, now to change the columns for example, down arrow until you hear; arrangements sub-menu, right arrow to open, and now down arrow until you hear; sort by, and press the spacebar, you now can arrange the columns, another thing you should do is, again, go to the menu, right or left arrow until you hear; view tab, and down arrow until you hear; layout sub-menu, right arrow to open. now, you need to press spacebar on, message list; now, tab until you hear, one line view, and check with the spacebar, you will then be placed back into your inbox, of windows live mail. also, you can use the f6-key, and press until you hear mail, now, you can arrow down and enter on a particular choice. let me no if this works; or helps you. - Original Message - From: "Bill Gallik" To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible OK Graham, something is really amiss here because I'm finding it difficult to: 1) rearrange the columns in the header page 2) send replies (or any compose any e-mail) Which version of JAWS are you using? Perhaps that's the difference. I find no appreciable relief when switching to JAWS 11 over JAWS 10. -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:31 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
OK Graham, something is really amiss here because I'm finding it difficult to: 1) rearrange the columns in the header page 2) send replies (or any compose any e-mail) Which version of JAWS are you using? Perhaps that's the difference. I find no appreciable relief when switching to JAWS 11 over JAWS 10. -Original Message- From: Graham Smith Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:31 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible
Sorry dont agree with you, works just fine here after finding out how and where. I would agree with you if you were talking about messinger. Graham -Original Message- From: Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: Blind Computing Subject: [Blind-Computing] Windows Live Mail Update Is Impossible Well Gang, I did some updates this morning and now have what I believe is the latest version of Windows Live Mail. My advice: stay the Hell away from this garbage. It's near impossible to navigate if you're totally blind (I have no idea how it is if one has sight). Microsoft has completely changed the menus. I can't find the procedures to change the order of items in message headers and this entire user interface rework is nothing short of a load of . . . well, better keep it clean. Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net - "A WOMAN'S MIND IS CLEANER THAN A MAN'S BECAUSE SHE CHANGES IT MORE OFTEN!" - Source Unknown For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
