Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread rj
No! that wasn't the way the first blind man did it. He had a wife who said
either you pound that nail in straight or I am going to pound you. Believe
me it worked here.
smiling
- Original Message - 
From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


> Since it's come down to a vote I say lets keep things the way they are
now.
> How did the first blind man to drive a nail figure out how to do it.  He
> first learned how a sighted person did it because that was the only
> information available.  Then he adapted the sighted method and worked out
> how he could do it without seeing the hammer and nail.  Let's stick with
it.
> I use my delete key a lot and I won't say on what.  It's no big deal.
> Listen to jaws read a sentence or so, reach for the delete key, and click,
> it's gone.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing

2006-10-19 Thread Doreen Lundgren
Hi Victor, I have a friend who is blind who works as a mechanic for the L.A. 
fire department and has for 31 years. I don't remember if he has a computer. 
I could ask. He also has many cars that he takes apart and puts back 
together.  He offered to show me how to do it if I ever come back that way. 
grin L8r, Doreen
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert J. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing


> Victor
>
> I am not really in position to turn this thought of mine into a project 
> but
> I would be willing to offer whatever help or suggestions that I can, in 
> the
> event some one is willing and able to take the ball and run with it. I 
> don't
> know if I can get to making a video of my own very soon but I absolutely 
> do
> plan to make an instructional video of me replacing a radiator on a 
> vehicle.
> If not a radiator I will find some thing interesting related to auto 
> repair.
> I don't have any adaptive tools such as micrometers or tork wrenches and 
> the
> like so if I may put a bug in some of you mechanics ears out there it may 
> be
> good to do a video of your own showing adaptive techniques and tools.  The
> video that I want to do will basically just show that you  don'tneed
> sight to do mechanic work and for the most part on basic stuff you really
> don't even need a lot of adaptive techniques. Just get your hands in there
> and find what you are looking for.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread Breeze
When I was a kid, I just got tired of waiting for the sighted friends to 
bend and straighten, bend and straighten their nails and I just got better 
than them.

Breeze

David Burzese
HRIS Project Director
Administrative Computing and Information Services
Carnegie Mellon
Phone:  412-268-3862

You make a living by what you get
You make a life by what you give


On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, rj wrote:

> No! that wasn't the way the first blind man did it. He had a wife who said
> either you pound that nail in straight or I am going to pound you. Believe
> me it worked here.
> smiling
> - Original Message -
> From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
>> Since it's come down to a vote I say lets keep things the way they are
> now.
>> How did the first blind man to drive a nail figure out how to do it.  He
>> first learned how a sighted person did it because that was the only
>> information available.  Then he adapted the sighted method and worked out
>> how he could do it without seeing the hammer and nail.  Let's stick with
> it.
>> I use my delete key a lot and I won't say on what.  It's no big deal.
>> Listen to jaws read a sentence or so, reach for the delete key, and click,
>> it's gone.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>>
>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> or
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>
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> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various 
> List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop

2006-10-19 Thread John Schwery
I have heard of places where one can rent space, tools and get some help, too.

earlier, Lee A. Stone, wrote:


>  as somebody  said years ago" I have a dream". picture this in your
>community.  something similar to years ago it was advertized   to take
>your car or truck to Joe blows place on a weekend and rent a bay. well I
>thought back to when" I was  a kid" and was in school shop and at that
>time I had some limited vision. However like most school shops it was
>well stocked with all sorts of tools and equipment. Imagine, if you
>would, someplace where you could go and say rent the use of a
>professional woood lathe and all the tools that go with it. same for any
>of the power equipment  we discuss on this list.. Table saws , power
>tools the average  home does not have a complete stock of.  So you tell
>your family members or Friends you are off to Joe blows  shop and come
>home maybe with a fnished project or at least something you started  and
>done with all the correct tools. Now take that one step further and
>inside that rented shop is one or two professionals who might assist set
>up  your wood lathe project or  in my case I really liked designing and
>making things on the metal lathe. so if someone wins the powerball or
>big lottery, there you go, invest in a rental  shop which would bring a
>great deal  of satisfaction to many. This commercial was not approved by
>the Democratic or Republican party , only be the three of us. Me, myself
>and I. Lee
>
>
>--
>"Arguments with furniture are rarely productive."
> -- Kehlog Albran, "The Profit"
>
>
>To listen to the show archives go to link
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>or
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>
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>http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
>The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
>http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
>Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions 
> From Various List Members At The Following Address:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread John Schwery
Hailley, I'm helping a bit but my wife is cooking it.

earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:

>Hey your welcome..are you cooking this yourself?
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "John Schwery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
>
>
> > Hailley, thanks much.
> >
> > earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
> >
> >>heheheh I agree,lol
> >>I would say around 20/lb we have 17 people in our group and that works
> >>wfor
> >>all of us and even have leftovers..
> >>
> >>Hailley
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Jewel Blanch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:44 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
> >>
> >>
> >> > HAA--HAA-HAA!!!  WONDERFUL REPLY!
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Assuming a turkey can eat two people I figure you will need about five
> >> > turkeys.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Skype DaleLeavens
> >> > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "John Schwery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:14 PM
> >> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey do
> >> >> we
> >> >> need?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
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> >> >>
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> >> >
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> >> > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
> >> >
> >> > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> >> > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
> >> >
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> >> > Various List Members
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> >> >
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> >> > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
> >> >
> >> > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> >> > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
> >> >
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> >> > Various List Members At The Following Address:
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
Lee,

There used to be a place here that rented service bays for you to work on your 
car.  It was about 30 years ago.  The problem, these days, is that the 
liability insurance makes this prohibitive.

It would be great if we had such a place where every tool we could ever dream 
of using would be at our fingertips.  I have had to invest many thousands of 
dollars to equip my shop with the tools and equipment to do the things that I 
want to do.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:52 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop



  as somebody said years ago" I have a dream". picture this in your 
  community. something similar to years ago it was advertized to take 
  your car or truck to Joe blows place on a weekend and rent a bay. well I 
  thought back to when" I was a kid" and was in school shop and at that 
  time I had some limited vision. However like most school shops it was 
  well stocked with all sorts of tools and equipment. Imagine, if you 
  would, someplace where you could go and say rent the use of a 
  professional woood lathe and all the tools that go with it. same for any 
  of the power equipment we discuss on this list.. Table saws , power 
  tools the average home does not have a complete stock of. So you tell 
  your family members or Friends you are off to Joe blows shop and come 
  home maybe with a fnished project or at least something you started and 
  done with all the correct tools. Now take that one step further and 
  inside that rented shop is one or two professionals who might assist set 
  up your wood lathe project or in my case I really liked designing and 
  making things on the metal lathe. so if someone wins the powerball or 
  big lottery, there you go, invest in a rental shop which would bring a 
  great deal of satisfaction to many. This commercial was not approved by 
  the Democratic or Republican party , only be the three of us. Me, myself 
  and I. Lee

  -- 
  "Arguments with furniture are rarely productive."
  -- Kehlog Albran, "The Profit"


   


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
Tom,

Another thing to check is the short piece of pipe that screws onto the big 
drain piece in the sink.  This pipe is called the tailpiece and screws onto the 
drain basket with a fine thread.  this fine thread should have a bit of pipe 
thread sealant on it and it should be screwed up tight to the drain basket.  
When you are tightening the slip joint nut, you are turning it in the direction 
that can loosen the tailpiece thread.  Check to make sure this has not happened.

Another thing is to make sure that none of the pieces have rotted through with 
either small holes or cracks.

Good luck.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?


  I am not sure I fully understand the set-up you have but most of my drains 
  have a tail coming down from the bottom of the sink which slides into the 
  top of the sewer, sometimes right into the top of the trap. There is a nylon 
  ring like a compression fitting you slide over the tail just under the nut 
  which is squeezed between the hand nut and the inside of the sewer fitting 
  so when you screw the nut down it forces this ring down into the top of the 
  sewer drain fitting. The ring is wedged in cross section, the thin side goes 
  down and this forms a compression fitting around the tail of the sink.

  If the tail is distorted you won't get a good seal but usually that doesn't 
  matter a lot unless there is pressure in the sink, once the trap begins to 
  syphon that fitting will be quite forgiving. If the drainage is slow though, 
  drips will squeeze out. Of course you prefer it to be water tight anyway but 
  in my experience, hand tight is all you need.

  Here, common sizes are inch and an eighth, inch and a quarter and inch and a 
  half, the fit should be snug.

  There are of course many different arrangements and in an older house often 
  some cobbled together hybrid. Your system may be quite different, it 
  actually sounds quite different but I might be misunderstanding it.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Tom Fowle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?

  > Dale,
  > I believe the rubber gaskets in the new nuts are square in cross section,
  > but I'll check more carefully that could be it!
  >
  > I don't see that the flanged end of the pipe looks distorted, but again,
  > i'll check carefully.
  >
  > Since there is a plastic flange that fits inside the upper end of the 
  > small
  > pipe which I might call a universal joint? maybe that nut
  > doesn't need a rubber gasket. That might be keeping the nut from 
  > threading
  > far enough up on the drain end to stayput.
  >
  > I'll have along weekend with Sue off at a music workshop to fill, so may
  > as welll muck about with drains.
  >
  > Thanks
  > Tom
  >
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
There are none of those around here.  

Do you think they would have a coronary if they had a blind guy show up and 
want to use the shop?


  - Original Message - 
  From: John Schwery 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop


  I have heard of places where one can rent space, tools and get some help, too.

  earlier, Lee A. Stone, wrote:

  > as somebody said years ago" I have a dream". picture this in your
  >community. something similar to years ago it was advertized to take
  >your car or truck to Joe blows place on a weekend and rent a bay. well I
  >thought back to when" I was a kid" and was in school shop and at that
  >time I had some limited vision. However like most school shops it was
  >well stocked with all sorts of tools and equipment. Imagine, if you
  >would, someplace where you could go and say rent the use of a
  >professional woood lathe and all the tools that go with it. same for any
  >of the power equipment we discuss on this list.. Table saws , power
  >tools the average home does not have a complete stock of. So you tell
  >your family members or Friends you are off to Joe blows shop and come
  >home maybe with a fnished project or at least something you started and
  >done with all the correct tools. Now take that one step further and
  >inside that rented shop is one or two professionals who might assist set
  >up your wood lathe project or in my case I really liked designing and
  >making things on the metal lathe. so if someone wins the powerball or
  >big lottery, there you go, invest in a rental shop which would bring a
  >great deal of satisfaction to many. This commercial was not approved by
  >the Democratic or Republican party , only be the three of us. Me, myself
  >and I. Lee
  >
  >
  >--
  >"Arguments with furniture are rarely productive."
  > -- Kehlog Albran, "The Profit"
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hot water heater

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
Richard,

It would be helpful if you can tell us what type of water heater you have. (eg. 
electric, gas with a pilot light, gas with electric power vent, etc.)  The 
answer will depend on the type of water heater, since the reset button is 
different for each type.  I will assume that it is not a gas heater with a 
standing pilot light, since you didn't say that you had to relight it to get to 
operate again.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Most 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:09 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hot water heater


  i all,
  I have a hot water heater that popped the reset button. I pressed the 
  reset button and all has worked for about three weeks. What made the 
  reset button pop?
  Thanks for any info.
  Richard Most
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop

2006-10-19 Thread Dan Rossi
Lee,

Guess what, this mystical shop of which you speak, does exist.  It is 
called your local community college.

granted, they gave me some shit when I signed up for a wood working class 
back in the spring.  I jumped through their stupid hoops and signed a 
waiver, but we had full access to a high school shop with lots of tools I 
don't have, and don't have room for.

The only thing that I didn't like was that I thought I was paying for a 
class to learn about wood working, but what I got was access to a shop and 
a guy who would answer your questions if you could get his attention away 
from the one cute girl in the class.  I gave up after a couple of weeks. 
But others may have a better experience if their local community college 
has a class.

Later.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread Dan Rossi
I have to agree with everyone on this, (nothing like a strong stance).

When I first saw Mickey's and Tom's messages, I agreed with them to a 
certain degree.  Sometimes there is virtually nothing I can get out of 
certain posts, but other times the posts are extremely useful.  I am 
extremely liberal with the delete key but I subscribe to a number of lists 
work and none work related and my delete key is getting a bit tired.

Never-the-less, I would much rather have Ray and others out there doing 
the research with the occasional clinker in there rather than always have 
to do it myself.

So, I prefer that we keep things as they were, and there is really no 
reason at all for anyone to "get the hell out of here".

There are a number of people on this list who are pretty much amateurs 
like myself, a number of folks who are just lurkers, and a few who are 
exceptionally valuable for their hands on experience.  I include Mickey, 
Tom, and Dale as well as a few others who I can't remember at the moment, 
in this category.

this is a tremendously useful list and I would rather not see it get 
ripped up in flames over a misunderstanding.  So let's get back on the 
track of building things.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...

2006-10-19 Thread spiro
Independant Living Aids


On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:

> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't remember 
> where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris.  Can someone 
> tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that would like to 
> purchase one.  Andy.
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2006-10-19 Thread brice mijares
Thanks Dan, that's not a bad price.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


> Brice,
>
> according to www.xe.net/ucc a currency conversion web site that is updated
> several times a day, Your #49.95 pound measuring tape will cost $78.33
> U.S. dollars.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hot water heater

2006-10-19 Thread Richard Most
The heater is electric.
On Oct 19, 2006, at 6:09 AM, Mickey Fixsen wrote:

> electric

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread Armando Del Gobbo
Hi John,
a 15 pounder should do the trick, unless you have real huge eaters!  If you 
like leftovers, then go for a bigger one!

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> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey do we 
> need?
>
>
> John
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread Armando Del Gobbo
Aren't we taking this a little too far?  Everyone should be able to express 
an opinion, and that opinion should be respected!  If there is no agreement, 
I am sure that we all know where the delete key is located!  I believe there 
is always someone who benefits from the information!

- Original Message - 
From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


> Mickey,  if you don't like the list unsubscribe,  just get the hell 
> out...Don
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Mickey Fixsen
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:31 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
>  All I did was ask an honest question abut a list that purports to be 
> about how a "blind" person can do all kinds of handyman type jobs. I 
> simply stated my frustration that some postings are strictly geared toward 
> the sighted and tell, in no way, how a blind person can do the job. I was 
> not at all rude or nasty to anyone. I think this is a very fair question 
> and it did get some honest answers. I don't think I deserve the nasty 
> treatment for asking an honest question.
>
>  Maybe it's really just a "post anything you want as long as the moderator 
> agrees with you list" and really isn't about blindness at all. If so, then 
> I was mistaken.
>
>  At least, all of my postings have been from a blindness perstective.
>
>  -- Mickey
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: David Ferrin
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:39 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>  This is great as we won't be without a research department in your 
> absence Ray. good of you to leave the list in such capable hands.
>  David Ferrin
>  personal email address
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Consciousness is that annoying time between naps.
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Ray Boyce
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>  Hi Mickey
>
>  As I do a lot of the research for the Blind Handy Man List and I am going
>  on Holidays I Appoint You to Stand In while I am away, it will be
>  interesting to see what you can come up with.
>  Remember Blind Techniques I think are your words so please base all your
>  responses along these lines.
>
>  Ray
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:21 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>  > Thanks to all who replied to this issue.
>  >
>  > As expected, the responses are extremely varied. If nothing else, it 
> has
>  > been interesting.
>  >
>  > Keep all of the good blind tricks and techniques coming.
>  >
>  >
>  > - Original Message - 
>  > From: Mickey Fixsen
>  > To: Blind Handyman
>  > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:11 AM
>  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi all.
>  >
>  > I'm sorry, but I get frustrated when I read many things posted to this
>  > list that are simply a rehash of information available out there that 
> is
>  > intended for sighted people. The information posted does not include 
> the
>  > techniques and procedures to get the task done as a blind person.
>  > Shouldn't a rule of posting to this sight require the information 
> posted
>  > to include the blindness techniques needed to do the Job?
>  >
>  > Granted, some posts do include blindness techniques and they are 
> greatly
>  > appreciated. I am here, after all, to learn and share blindness 
> techniques
>  > for doing all sorts of jobs as a blind person. It is of great help and
>  > encouragement to hear how other blind people are doing these jobs. It 
> is
>  > of little or no help to me to hear how to do jobs by using vision. 
> There
>  > are plenty of tv shows, books, and the internet to find information for
>  > sighted people. There is virtually no other place to get information of
>  > how to do these things as a blind person.
>  >
>  > This is, of course, just one person's opinion. I would like to hear 
> what
>  > others think.
>  >
>  > Thanks-- Mickey
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler..

2006-10-19 Thread Rob Monitor
Hi, I'm new to this list and I was wondering if any one could tell me 
where I could get a click ruler and a talking volt meter???
THANKS ROB
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...


> Independant Living Aids
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>
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
>
>> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't 
>> remember where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris. 
>> Can someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that 
>> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
>>
>>
>>
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[BlindHandyMan] forwards to the list

2006-10-19 Thread David Ferrin
Personally I'm in favor of them so long as they pertain to the subject of 
being handy.  I often take nothing out of them myself as I don't have a 
vehicle, a table saw, or a drill press either.  I do know that many members 
of this list do have such things though.  So the fact that I personally 
might not benefit from a post of that nature doesn't mean that it shouldn't 
be posted as somebody might just grab some useful information from it.  Like 
I said so long as it's on topic for the list is the main thing.  Along with 
that though I do hope that somebody is getting use of the information. 
Sadly there's no way to determine that.  Consider this right now this list 
has 214 subscribers counting the archiving service so chances are good in my 
opinion that some person out there is learning from any given post.  I too 
would like to have it my disposal more instructional material written for 
the blind, but as anybody on here over the age of 18 should already know 
that's not always going to be the case.  As a result we must adapt to the 
sited world as they aren't going to adapt to us.  I'm speaking as just 
another list member right now and nothing more as this is only my opinion. 
Think about this for a moment I will bet that virtually everybody out there 
at some time in their life long before becoming a handy person came up with 
some technique or other to do something that a sited person taught them to 
do.
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[BlindHandyMan] electric: Hot water heater

2006-10-19 Thread Geno
October 19 sent at: 11:15 AM EST
Richard,
I am guessing as Dale has kindly suggested. Especially that you have mention
electric hot water unit.
I would do a test on both heating rods. Guessing the bottom one is showing
wear. Do you do a yearly empty the water tank to keep the cramp out of the
bottom of the tank? I learned that in my other home I use to have. As, here
in the city with a Boiler that handles my hot water and forced hot water
heat. The pipes need to be cleaned
I am not a plumber or want to mess with a Natural Gas boiler, so every two
years, I have this Guy Jeff come over and go through my entire system.
geno
PS: thanks guys for all the valuable information past through this group!
Greatly appreciated!




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hot water heater

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
Ok, then Dale already gave you the answer.

Good luck.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Most 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hot water heater


  The heater is electric.
  On Oct 19, 2006, at 6:09 AM, Mickey Fixsen wrote:

  > electric

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[BlindHandyMan] re: click rule and talking voltmeter

2006-10-19 Thread Jay Williams
I think that Someone recently posted a source for clickrules, but I've
forgotten. As to a talking multimeter, I can highly recommend the one
available from the link below, supplied by Tom.
Jay
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To: 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Multimeter source


> This is possibly the meter being sold by circuit city in Canada,
> thanks to the folks at HandiHams for this snip from their weekly
> e-letter.
>
> I havn't check this out my self.
> tom
> 
> The Nexxtech talking multimeter is available from a place
> called KMS Tools in Canada. Their web site is
> http://kmstools.com
> and the multimeter is listed under "automotive tools". They will ship to
the
> US and Canada, but we are not sure if they will ship to other countries.
The
> total cost of the multimeter, including shipping, is approximately $45 to
> USA addresses.
> The toll-free number for KMS Tools is 1-800-567-8979. Thanks to K0LR for
> this information.
> Direct link to the NEXXTECH talking multimeter:
> http://www.kmstools.com/main.php?scripts/products/cat.php?142
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread William Stephan
Well, size is a function of time, as in how long do you want the left-overs to 
last.


Bill Stephan
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Assuming a turkey can eat two people I figure you will need about five 
turkeys.



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> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey do we 
> need?
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop

2006-10-19 Thread William Stephan
Lee, back in the '70s and early '80s I ran an equipment leasing and rental 
business.  Back then, if you had basic aptitude, and didn't mind getting your 
hands dirty, you could still say, repair your own car without thousands of 
dollars of diagnostic equipment.

Anyway, we actually thought about doing something very similar to what you're 
talking about here.  What killed the plan though was the astronomical cost of 
the insurance we would have had to carry.

I've lived in highrises for a lot of years, and I always wished they would at 
least have space so you could build stuff, and now I'm really enjoying having a 
basement again.



Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop


 as somebody  said years ago" I have a dream". picture this in your 
community.  something similar to years ago it was advertized   to take 
your car or truck to Joe blows place on a weekend and rent a bay. well I 
thought back to when" I was  a kid" and was in school shop and at that 
time I had some limited vision. However like most school shops it was 
well stocked with all sorts of tools and equipment. Imagine, if you 
would, someplace where you could go and say rent the use of a 
professional woood lathe and all the tools that go with it. same for any 
of the power equipment  we discuss on this list.. Table saws , power  
tools the average  home does not have a complete stock of.  So you tell 
your family members or Friends you are off to Joe blows  shop and come 
home maybe with a fnished project or at least something you started  and 
done with all the correct tools. Now take that one step further and 
inside that rented shop is one or two professionals who might assist set 
up  your wood lathe project or  in my case I really liked designing and 
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big lottery, there you go, invest in a rental  shop which would bring a 
great deal  of satisfaction to many. This commercial was not approved by 
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and I. Lee


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[BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff

2006-10-19 Thread William Stephan
 Well, I've been whining for a year or so about how much I need one of those 
Tissot vibrating watches that cost $400 or so.  And, my wife I believe was 
going to buy me one for Xmas.  Yesterday though, I decided I could save money 
and really be happier buying a compressor, which I've also been whining about 
not having. 

So, after I got the "clearance" from my wife, I checked around a bit and 
finally bought a small relatively inexpensive one from Harbor Freight.

I was able to get the compressor, hose, coupling set, blow gun, 3/8 drill and 
3/8 air ratchet for about $160.00, and that includes shipping.  
And, since I saved us so much money, I'm going to have another 30 amp line put 
on the breaker box in the basement, which is something else I've wanted for a 
while.

BTW, I got really good service from the folks at Harbor Freight.



Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler..

2006-10-19 Thread William Stephan
Rob:  the only source I know of for those click rulers is the NFB store.

There number is:
(410) 659-9314
They also have a ruler that's accurate to at least 1/64th inch if you're 
interested.


Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan


-Original Message-
From: "Rob Monitor"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 10/19/06 9:35:14 AM
To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler..

Hi, I'm new to this list and I was wondering if any one could tell me 
where I could get a click ruler and a talking volt meter???
THANKS ROB
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> Independant Living Aids
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
>
>> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't 
>> remember where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris. 
>> Can someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that 
>> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing

2006-10-19 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
A Great idea, Robert. And when we get those ideas across, let's give 
them a show that includes women. You should see the look on the faces 
of clerks when my husband and I go to the hardware store and I tell 
the clerk what we need. My husband is perfectly happy not to be the 
handy person in our house. Good thing, because I'd have way more 
repairs to do. Grin!

At 04:25 PM 10/18/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Robert,
>
>I myself had such an idea.
>
>I had plans of starting a project on the show, and getting actual 
>real time advice from Phil, the two Dons and Tom, while doing the 
>actual project, and depending on the size of the project, turning it 
>into a two parter.
>
>Just a thought, because I have one such project in mind, and it 
>isn't that hard or complicated.
>
>I just hadn't gotten a chance to write Phil about it yet, guess you 
>beat me to it.
>
>Victor Gouveia
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread one foxy lady
awe ok, is this the first time yall have cooked turkeys? Since you asked 
about how big to buy was just wondering..
www.butterball.com

has all the gobble on turkey birds ya ever wanted to know grins
oh one other note..ever try those deep fried turkeys? They cook them in hot 
hot peanut oil in these huge kettles big big deal here in Texas and that is 
some good tasting turkey..

Hailley

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> Hailley, I'm helping a bit but my wife is cooking it.
>
> earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
>
>>Hey your welcome..are you cooking this yourself?
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "John Schwery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
>>
>>
>> > Hailley, thanks much.
>> >
>> > earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
>> >
>> >>heheheh I agree,lol
>> >>I would say around 20/lb we have 17 people in our group and that works
>> >>wfor
>> >>all of us and even have leftovers..
>> >>
>> >>Hailley
>> >>
>> >>- Original Message -
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>> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:44 PM
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>> >>
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>> >> > - Original Message -
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Assuming a turkey can eat two people I figure you will need about 
>> >> > five
>> >> > turkeys.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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>> >> >
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>> >> >> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Alton
Beyond Sight
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From: "Andrew J. LaPointe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...


> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't remember 
> where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris.  Can 
> someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that 
> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
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>
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> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale,
Yes, it's quite different, The threaded "tail" from the drain takes an inch
and a quarter slip nut and has a flange shaped plastic insert that is pushed
up against this tail by a small flange on
the top of a piece of smaller pipe with the afore mentioned slip joint nut
holding this all together.

This first pipe is maybe 2 inches long and is a kind of joiner between
the drain and a further set of slip joint pipes that bring the drains
from the two sinks together and go through the trap and
into the cast iron sewer.

The old stuff had no washers in the slip joint nuts but the new
nuts came with square cross section washers but with a washer in the top 
fitting where it goes up against the larger drain pipe, the nut
won't thread on enough to stay put.

I suspect that slow drain is most of the problem causing the backup that leaves 
the pipe full long enough to leak.

I'm beginning to think the vent is stopped cause it bubbles  a lot when full.

Thanks, will continue to thrash this weekend.

Tom
 


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff

2006-10-19 Thread Don
Sounds like you have a plan, grin.  Don
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:47 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff


  Well, I've been whining for a year or so about how much I need one of those 
Tissot vibrating watches that cost $400 or so. And, my wife I believe was going 
to buy me one for Xmas. Yesterday though, I decided I could save money and 
really be happier buying a compressor, which I've also been whining about not 
having. 

  So, after I got the "clearance" from my wife, I checked around a bit and 
finally bought a small relatively inexpensive one from Harbor Freight.

  I was able to get the compressor, hose, coupling set, blow gun, 3/8 drill and 
3/8 air ratchet for about $160.00, and that includes shipping. 
  And, since I saved us so much money, I'm going to have another 30 amp line 
put on the breaker box in the basement, which is something else I've wanted for 
a while.

  BTW, I got really good service from the folks at Harbor Freight.

  Bill Stephan
  Kansas City, MO
  (816)803-2469
  William Stephan



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread Don
HI,  Max,  I think that is a fine idea  discriptions always help.   regards don
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  From: Max Robinson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


  I have a further suggestion. When information is posted that includes a 
  reference to a diagram Ray, or who ever is posting it, should enlist the 
  help of one of us partials to write a verbal description of the figure. I 
  have considerable experience in doing this and am willing to do my share of 
  the work.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

  > Hi All,
  >
  > If I can weigh in here for a minute.
  >
  > I thought Mickey's post was done well, and I didn't think there was 
  > anything wrong with it.
  >
  > I just don't think that Mickey was necessarily thinking about the over 200 
  > members on the list, and the fact that some of them, whether it be a small 
  > portion or large portion of our members, have usable sight, such as Don 
  > Shaw, or Boop, and for a time, before I went completely dark, I had some 
  > usable vision, as well, so Ray's posts do have merit, whether they be from 
  > a blind or sighted perspective.
  >
  > There have been many different opinions on this subject, some agreed with 
  > Mickey, and some did not, in any case, it is not up to a regular member on 
  > the list to decide where the list goes, it is up to the list owner and 
  > moderator.
  >
  > If you have problems with how the list is being run, or the direction that 
  > it is taking, feel free to write the owner or moderator. I mean, Jesus, 
  > there are, I think, something like four or five moderators, and I'm sure 
  > you get along with, at least, one of them.
  >
  > Another point is that these problems should be discussed off-list, not on 
  > list.
  >
  > When the necessary changes are to be implemented, and or if the owner and 
  > moderators feel that a consensus is needed from list members, then the 
  > subject should be broached on-list, otherwise, comments on list practises 
  > and allowances should be kept off-list.
  >
  > Lastly, there is one suggestion I would have for Ray, and that is, he 
  > should include the original website address with his posts, this serves 
  > two purposes...
  >
  > First, it allows the reader to check it's legitimacy, and accuracy, and 
  > allows for added ability of the reader to add the website to their 
  > favourites list.
  >
  > Secondly, it allows for the reader to go onto the website and check out if 
  > there's more stuff the reader might want to glean from it.
  >
  > I know of such posts that Ray has submitted where the information was, in 
  > a way what I was looking for, but had just the right amount off as to be 
  > useless to me, however, I wanted to go to the website to see if there 
  > might have been an addendum to the article that would've included that 
  > subtle difference that would have adapted the article to suit me.
  >
  > In any case, these suggestions have allowed the groups that I moderate to 
  > work alright, and I offer these ideas as suggestions for possible 
  > application.
  >
  > Victor Gouveia
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
don,
Again, I have never said there shouldn't be forwards although, since it is
a subject to continue, I do worry about copyright attribution and sources
on some of them, but it ain't my kneck if some site owner finds out this list
has been illegally publishing copyrighted material.

I'd vote to continue as it is as long as the general subject of
handyman work is kept.

and yes, I do know where my delete key is.

I do, however, resent your implication that I even suggested no forwarsdon,
Again, I have never said there shouldn't be forwards although, since it is
a subject to continue, I do worry about copyright attribution and sources
on some of them, but it ain't my kneck if some site owner finds out this list
has been illegally publishing copyrighted material.

I'd vote to continue as it is as long as the general subject of
handyman work is kept.

and yes, I do know where my delete key is.

I do, however, resent your implication that I even suggested no forwards
 because I didn't.

enough allready!
Tom

didn't.


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
robert,
There are some things a blind person can't do, like driving a car or flying
a plane without sighted help, but the rest
depend on the individual and his/herwillingness to go to extremes and/or learn
and experiment.

If you want to find out how blind folks solder electronics go to:
http://www.ski.rog/rerc/sktf/
and grab the 
soldering series
of seven articles.

Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Rob Monitor
Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know  which of 
these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. They are in 
the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent 
for one...
THANKS ROB
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...


> Beyond Sight
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> To: 
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> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>
>
>> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't 
>> remember
>> where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris.  Can
>> someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that
>> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
>>
>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread John Schwery
Hailley, no, this isn't our first turkey but I wasn't sure how large 
of a bird I needed for this many people.  they come out well, using a 
cooking bag.  Nope, I haven't had fried turkey but I have heard it is good.

earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:

>awe ok, is this the first time yall have cooked turkeys? Since you asked
>about how big to buy was just wondering..
>www.butterball.com
>
>has all the gobble on turkey birds ya ever wanted to know grins
>oh one other note..ever try those deep fried turkeys? They cook them in hot
>hot peanut oil in these huge kettles big big deal here in Texas and that is
>some good tasting turkey..
>
>Hailley
>
>- Original Message -
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>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:46 AM
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>
>
> > Hailley, I'm helping a bit but my wife is cooking it.
> >
> > earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
> >
> >>Hey your welcome..are you cooking this yourself?
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
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> >>To: 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:42 PM
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> >>
> >> > Hailley, thanks much.
> >> >
> >> > earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>heheheh I agree,lol
> >> >>I would say around 20/lb we have 17 people in our group and that works
> >> >>wfor
> >> >>all of us and even have leftovers..
> >> >>
> >> >>Hailley
> >> >>
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> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:44 PM
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> >> >> >
> >> >> > Assuming a turkey can eat two people I figure you will need about
> >> >> > five
> >> >> > turkeys.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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> >> >> >> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey
> >> >> >> do
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Seeing is believing

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale,
Of course none could say it better, the attitudenal change is slowly happening
and I'm never sure how much single examples help, it is so easy to make it
into a "oh isn't that wonderfull" film and have "them" not get the point.

But if one doesn't try, one surely fails.

Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
Hi Mickey,
Yep, I looked carefully at the tail piece and it is coroded solid, so if it
is leaking it's cause it has crack.

I'm going to put some compound or teflon tape on that thread
also to see if that stops it.

With the supplied washer in the slip joint nut, the nut
can't come up far enough on the tail piece thread to hold
so I think either the washer is too 
thick or the threads on the tail piece are stripped.

Thanks
tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] re: click rule and talking voltmeter

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
The click and roto rules are available from the NFB's 
materials center
http://ww.nfb.org

Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Jay Williams
Hi, Rob,
The clickrule is great for quickie measurements as it clicks every 16th
inch. The rotorule, however has a square nut and a lock nut so you have
accurate resolution to at least 1/64th inch; better if you have a good sense
of when the nut is truly diagonal to the flat surface used as a reference.
It's slower, but if you're measuring the positions of holes to be punched
and drilled, this is far better.
Jay
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> Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know  which of
> these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. They are
in
> the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent
> for one...
> THANKS ROB
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
rob,
Better is not appropriate here, the click rule resolves to a sixteenth of an
inch and is faster to set, while the rotomatic is good to a sixty fourth and
is slower to spin a long way.

I have and love them both, but that's from a day, long ago, when
they weren't so expensive.

for most work, unless you're doing high
quality cabinetry or metla work, I'd bet the click rule is more than 
adequate.

Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
If cooking time is an issue, you might go for two ten pounders 
instead of a twenty, assuming that you have room in the oven.

At 05:04 AM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>a 15 pounder should do the trick, unless you have real huge eaters!  If you
>like leftovers, then go for a bigger one!
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread William Stephan
Yes, fried turkey is outstanding when done right, but it sucks when it's done 
wrong.  

There is, or
 used to be, a guy who ran a frying service to the east of here.  He had a 
small stock tank on blocks filled with oil.  He had four 85,000 BTU 
propane-fired salamander heaters under the tank.  You would bring your turkey 
and he'd attach a flag with a number to it.  Typically, people just left the 
turkeys and came back in an hour or so.  I can't recall how much he charged, 
but it had to be cheaper than buying oil for your very own private fryer.


Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
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-Original Message-
From: "one foxy lady"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 10/19/06 12:49:52 PM
To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

awe ok, is this the first time yall have cooked turkeys? Since you asked 
about how big to buy was just wondering..
www.butterball.com

has all the gobble on turkey birds ya ever wanted to know grins
oh one other note..ever try those deep fried turkeys? They cook them in hot 
hot peanut oil in these huge kettles big big deal here in Texas and that is 
some good tasting turkey..

Hailley

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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?


> Hailley, I'm helping a bit but my wife is cooking it.
>
> earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
>
>>Hey your welcome..are you cooking this yourself?
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "John Schwery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
>>
>>
>> > Hailley, thanks much.
>> >
>> > earlier, one foxy lady, wrote:
>> >
>> >>heheheh I agree,lol
>> >>I would say around 20/lb we have 17 people in our group and that works
>> >>wfor
>> >>all of us and even have leftovers..
>> >>
>> >>Hailley
>> >>
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>> >> > Assuming a turkey can eat two people I figure you will need about 
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>> >> >> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread William Stephan
Rob:
The click ruler is accurate to the 1/16th, the rotomatic to the 1/64th.

I don't like the rotomatic for measuring, but I do use it all the time for 
positioning work on my drill press and other applications where I need that 
accuracy.  
Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan


-Original Message-
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Sent: 10/19/06 1:27:57 PM
To: "blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com"
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know  which of 
these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. They are in 
the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent 
for one...
THANKS ROB
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> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>
>
>> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't 
>> remember
>> where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris.  Can
>> someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that
>> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Victor Gouveia
Tom Divulged:

There are some things a blind person can't do, like driving a car or flying
a plane without sighted help

***

Sorry Tom, but if I want to, I can drive or fly a plane just like anyone else.

Sure, that pole or home on the corner and anything else that is bolted to the 
ground might not like it, or the people I run over, but heck, who needs sighted 
help to do those things when I can do it just fine.

Like I said, I can do it, just can't do it legally.

Victor Gouveia

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread spiro
similarly, even though it may be advertising, there have been some 
articles that explain what a unit or substance will and will not do (CYA 
on the part of the company) and that is informative as well. Even if it's 
main benefit was to keep the company from getting hauled into liability 
cases.
so I am thankful, if even what I have learned often, is that I am under 
experienced for what much of what the other guys can do.
Info is knowledge, and fore warned is fore armed, and isn't that half an 
octopus?



On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Geoff Eden wrote:

> I'm confused by the discussion, I don't know of many things in the world 
> easier to do then press the delete key.  In particular, with respect to 
> advertising, some of the material on power tools has been invaluable.  It's 
> the kind of thing that it would take a lot of time to search for.
>
> Geoff
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Tom Fowle
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
> Mickey,
> HERE HERE! In spades.
>
> Although there may be some argument made that some visual techniquues may
> help some low vision folks, I delete any and all articles
> that do the following:
> 1. discribe a technique from a visual point of view:
> 2. promote a product by its manufacturer re: copy advertising.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread spiro
in your defense Tom.
I recently read a book on tape from NLS. I forget their RC#.
But it was called "Windows for Dummies". I am one.
I thought it would help.
Now reading along so far, carefully tells you alot. But it all comes 
crashing down right here!
The book was full of, "right click" and "double click on the ..."
and i read the whole thing, (gaining alot on windows structure) and found 
no key stroke commands.
Now, my complete frustration makes me ask, "why would NLS put it on tape? 
Just for the *oherwise print impared?" So those who can't hold a book, or 
the dyslexic will benefit, and I think that's great.
But even a readers note would have been helpful.
So i can, and we've all been there,
feelthat frustration.


On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Tom Fowle wrote:

> All,
> I had unintensionally offended ray and have appologized porfusely to him
> privately.
>
> I will cease complaining about this subject for ever.
> first because I was wrong, second because I regret offending
> anybody especially Ray who does so much
> hard and very worthwhile research.
>
> sorry, I'll try to be better.
> Tom
>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread Max Robinson
I saw many of the files on the handy man site when I helped David edit them. 
There were many references to diagrams and figures.  When Ray gets back from 
vacation perhaps he can give me the URL sources so I can go there, see the 
figure and then write a description.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


> HI,  Max,  I think that is a fine idea  discriptions always help. 
> regards don
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Max Robinson
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
>  I have a further suggestion. When information is posted that includes a
>  reference to a diagram Ray, or who ever is posting it, should enlist the
>  help of one of us partials to write a verbal description of the figure. I
>  have considerable experience in doing this and am willing to do my share 
> of
>  the work.
>
>  Regards.
>
>  Max. K 4 O D S.
>
>  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:42 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > If I can weigh in here for a minute.
>  >
>  > I thought Mickey's post was done well, and I didn't think there was
>  > anything wrong with it.
>  >
>  > I just don't think that Mickey was necessarily thinking about the over 
> 200
>  > members on the list, and the fact that some of them, whether it be a 
> small
>  > portion or large portion of our members, have usable sight, such as Don
>  > Shaw, or Boop, and for a time, before I went completely dark, I had 
> some
>  > usable vision, as well, so Ray's posts do have merit, whether they be 
> from
>  > a blind or sighted perspective.
>  >
>  > There have been many different opinions on this subject, some agreed 
> with
>  > Mickey, and some did not, in any case, it is not up to a regular member 
> on
>  > the list to decide where the list goes, it is up to the list owner and
>  > moderator.
>  >
>  > If you have problems with how the list is being run, or the direction 
> that
>  > it is taking, feel free to write the owner or moderator. I mean, Jesus,
>  > there are, I think, something like four or five moderators, and I'm 
> sure
>  > you get along with, at least, one of them.
>  >
>  > Another point is that these problems should be discussed off-list, not 
> on
>  > list.
>  >
>  > When the necessary changes are to be implemented, and or if the owner 
> and
>  > moderators feel that a consensus is needed from list members, then the
>  > subject should be broached on-list, otherwise, comments on list 
> practises
>  > and allowances should be kept off-list.
>  >
>  > Lastly, there is one suggestion I would have for Ray, and that is, he
>  > should include the original website address with his posts, this serves
>  > two purposes...
>  >
>  > First, it allows the reader to check it's legitimacy, and accuracy, and
>  > allows for added ability of the reader to add the website to their
>  > favourites list.
>  >
>  > Secondly, it allows for the reader to go onto the website and check out 
> if
>  > there's more stuff the reader might want to glean from it.
>  >
>  > I know of such posts that Ray has submitted where the information was, 
> in
>  > a way what I was looking for, but had just the right amount off as to 
> be
>  > useless to me, however, I wanted to go to the website to see if there
>  > might have been an addendum to the article that would've included that
>  > subtle difference that would have adapted the article to suit me.
>  >
>  > In any case, these suggestions have allowed the groups that I moderate 
> to
>  > work alright, and I offer these ideas as suggestions for possible
>  > application.
>  >
>  > Victor Gouveia
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > To listen to the show archives go to link
>  > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
>  > or
>  > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>  >
>  > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
>  > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>  >
>  > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
>  > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>  >
>  > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From
>  > Vari

Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

2006-10-19 Thread David Ferrin
Yes my friend and you were a tremendous help with that project, I thank you 
once again for saving me probably another week's work.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Max Robinson 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques


I saw many of the files on the handy man site when I helped David edit them. 
There were many references to diagrams and figures. When Ray gets back from 
vacation perhaps he can give me the URL sources so I can go there, see the 
figure and then write a description.

Regards.

Max. K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques

> HI, Max, I think that is a fine idea discriptions always help. 
> regards don
> - Original Message - 
> From: Max Robinson
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
>
> I have a further suggestion. When information is posted that includes a
> reference to a diagram Ray, or who ever is posting it, should enlist the
> help of one of us partials to write a verbal description of the figure. I
> have considerable experience in doing this and am willing to do my share 
> of
> the work.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max. K 4 O D S.
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > If I can weigh in here for a minute.
> >
> > I thought Mickey's post was done well, and I didn't think there was
> > anything wrong with it.
> >
> > I just don't think that Mickey was necessarily thinking about the over 
> 200
> > members on the list, and the fact that some of them, whether it be a 
> small
> > portion or large portion of our members, have usable sight, such as Don
> > Shaw, or Boop, and for a time, before I went completely dark, I had 
> some
> > usable vision, as well, so Ray's posts do have merit, whether they be 
> from
> > a blind or sighted perspective.
> >
> > There have been many different opinions on this subject, some agreed 
> with
> > Mickey, and some did not, in any case, it is not up to a regular member 
> on
> > the list to decide where the list goes, it is up to the list owner and
> > moderator.
> >
> > If you have problems with how the list is being run, or the direction 
> that
> > it is taking, feel free to write the owner or moderator. I mean, Jesus,
> > there are, I think, something like four or five moderators, and I'm 
> sure
> > you get along with, at least, one of them.
> >
> > Another point is that these problems should be discussed off-list, not 
> on
> > list.
> >
> > When the necessary changes are to be implemented, and or if the owner 
> and
> > moderators feel that a consensus is needed from list members, then the
> > subject should be broached on-list, otherwise, comments on list 
> practises
> > and allowances should be kept off-list.
> >
> > Lastly, there is one suggestion I would have for Ray, and that is, he
> > should include the original website address with his posts, this serves
> > two purposes...
> >
> > First, it allows the reader to check it's legitimacy, and accuracy, and
> > allows for added ability of the reader to add the website to their
> > favourites list.
> >
> > Secondly, it allows for the reader to go onto the website and check out 
> if
> > there's more stuff the reader might want to glean from it.
> >
> > I know of such posts that Ray has submitted where the information was, 
> in
> > a way what I was looking for, but had just the right amount off as to 
> be
> > useless to me, however, I wanted to go to the website to see if there
> > might have been an addendum to the article that would've included that
> > subtle difference that would have adapted the article to suit me.
> >
> > In any case, these suggestions have allowed the groups that I moderate 
> to
> > work alright, and I offer these ideas as suggestions for possible
> > application.
> >
> > Victor Gouveia
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > To listen to the show archives go to link
> > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> > or
> > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
> >
> > The Pod 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
victor,
Of course you're correct, anybody can do, or try to do, anything they want.
it's the consequences you have to watch out for.

Maybe we have to say that there are a few things blind folks can't do as 
well as most sighted folks can, most of the time, probably, depending,
etc.  I once was steered to a blog from some por pilot who
was talking to some blind guy who was trying to get money
to buy his own personal helocopter.  He said that reading the instruments
was going to be the hard part.
boy was that blind guy naive, reading the instruments wouldn't be that hard.
but getting a chopper back on the ground without sight would be a real
test, Now, that, I think, is something a bat just
couldn't do with any techniques I can imagine today.

Nothing is black and white, except wire colors maybe.

tom



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[BlindHandyMan] click ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Rob Monitor
Hi, Just Rob again. Thanks for the info on the rulers I sent for the click 
ruler believe that will work for me for now... Can't believe how much they are 
...
THANKS ROB

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Bob
Yes Victor, and then there are things you can't do well, such as climbing a 
ladder.  Cheers, Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor Gouveia 
  To: Blind Handyman Listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:47 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.


  Tom Divulged:

  There are some things a blind person can't do, like driving a car or flying
  a plane without sighted help

  ***

  Sorry Tom, but if I want to, I can drive or fly a plane just like anyone else.

  Sure, that pole or home on the corner and anything else that is bolted to the 
ground might not like it, or the people I run over, but heck, who needs sighted 
help to do those things when I can do it just fine.

  Like I said, I can do it, just can't do it legally.

  Victor Gouveia

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
I have a machinist friend and showed him the click ruler, asked if the price
was fare, he said yes, not a device that lends its self to mass
manufacturing, and would take more than an hour to make.  So that's a fair
price for the work done.

But too bad it is so high.
Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
Rob,

There really is not a "better".  As others have said there is an accuracy 
difference.  They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

The Clickrule is faster to adjust than the Rotomatic to get your measurement.

The Clickrule will do inside measurements more easily than the Rotomatic (in 
most circumstances), just because of its design.

The Rotomatic will lie completely flat against your work piece so that you get 
better measurements.  Because of the 2 stop blocks and the knob on the 
Clickrule, it won't always be lying right against your workpiece and, 
therefore, your accuracy may suffer.

The clickrule can actually have better than a 1/16" accuracy, especially when 
transfering measurements.  The lock knob can be locked between the detents 
(which are 1/16" apart) for this added accuracy.

The way you read the two devices is a bit different, too.  The Rotomatic is 
read at the 1/2" increments when the raised thread is flush (you just can't 
feel it) with the edge of the large rectangular nut and the mark is on the same 
side as the raised 1/2" marks.  The Clickrule 1/2" increments are read with the 
raised thread left so that you can still feel it next to the body of the tool.  
To check this with either tool:  

1.  Run the big rectangular nut on the Rotomatic all the way to the zero end of 
the tool and have it flush with the end with the mark on the same side as the 
raised 1/2" marks.  With the Click rule, flush the end of the threaded piece 
with the body of the tool (the zero point.  
2.  Now with the Rotomatic, rotate the large rectangular nut exactly 8 full 
turns and you will see how it ligns up with the first 1/2" raised mark.  On the 
Clickrule, move the body of the tool exactly 8 clicks to lengthen it and you 
will see how it aligns with the first raised 1/2" mark.

They both use 3/8" diameter extension rods, but the thread of the attaching 
screw is different between the two rules.  They both use a Number 10 screw, but 
the Rotomatic uses a 10-24 coarse thread and the Clickrule uses a 10-32 fine 
thread.  I have both rules and have changed all of the extension rods to the 
10-24 thread, so that all are interchangeable.  I, also, make some of my own 
extension rods which are up to 36" long.  I have actually used these tools to 
well over 20 feet in length.

The Clickrule has 2 stop blocks on it so that you can read either up to 6 
inches or 12 inches.  You will have to remember which stop block you are using 
for each particular measurement.  There is , also, a 1/4" offset that you will 
have to get used to with both tools.  This comes into play depending on which 
side of the stop block or the rectangular nut you are measuring to.  You'll get 
the hang of it.

Good luck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rob Monitor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler


  Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know which of 
  these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. They are in 
  the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent 
  for one...
  THANKS ROB
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  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...

  > Beyond Sight
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  >
  >> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't 
  >> remember
  >> where I got it from. I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris. Can
  >> someone tell me where someone can get this now? I have a friend that
  >> would like to purchase one. Andy.
  >>
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[BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion

2006-10-19 Thread Mickey Fixsen
Hi all.

It seems to me that it might be helpful if there were files added to the Files 
Page that contain some of the information that is frequently sought here, 
regarding where to buy specialized tools.

For instance, The subject of where to buy the following things have come up 
recently.  Things like the Clickrule, Rotomatic, talking multimeter, talking 
tape measure, , and many more items that are either specialized for the blind 
or extremely blind friendly.

Maybe a file could be added for each item, as it comes up on the list  and 
would be there for all , for future reference.  

For example, there could be a file entitled "Where to buy the Clickrule".  The 
body of the file would then contain the appropriate information.  Another one 
could be "Where to buy a talking multimeter".  And so forth.

Another file that might be worthwhile is our current discussion talking about 
the pros and cons of the Clickrule and the Rotomatic.  It would always be there 
for future reference and we wouldn't have to rewrite it each time the subject 
comes up.  People could be referred to the Files Page for, at least, a first 
reference.  

I realize this would take time for someone to do, but it seems to be frequently 
asked info and might be worth the effort.  It would be information specifically 
geared toward us blind guys, too.

Now, please don't anyone get all upset over this suggestion.  It is simply a 
suggestion and nothing more.

Thanks--  Mickey
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
And they tell you size doesn't matter!



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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?


> Well, size is a function of time, as in how long do you want the 
> left-overs to last.
>
>
> Bill Stephan
> Kansas City, MO
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> William Stephan
>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Assuming a turkey can eat two people I figure you will need about five
> turkeys.
>
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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>
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>
>> We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey do we
>> need?
>>
>>
>> John
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
I had a similar experience back in about 1975 at our local high school. The 
instructor was  being paid to run a class on behalf of the Community College 
out of Timmins only back then there was no question about signing a waver. 
There was a lot of conversation going on behind my back I didn't know about 
and some sort of arrangement made that did not include me in any of the 
negotiations, when it was put to me it was pretty well an ultimatum. That is 
the short version it is a much longer story including that at the time I was 
providing treatment for a highschool student of that same teacher for 
fingers amputated by the table saw in that very shop. Obviously everyone had 
an emotional stake in the event, in the end I had to drop it or the 
instructor would refuse to run the class and that was no way for me to make 
friends in a small town of around 4,000 at the time.

To this day it has left me with a certain truth, sighted people cut fingers 
off and step in front of automobiles and fall out of buildings and all sorts 
of things. Is it reasonable to demand that we, as blind persons must exceed 
their performance standards?

Janet and I are more likely to be injured as pedestrians just because we 
walk a lot, law of averages! That is independent of any other variables.

In the end it always comes down to the attitude of inclusion, it is there or 
it is not. We cannot prove anything to anyone unwilling to be taught.

Of course that teacher didn't want me to cut any fingers off and neither did 
I. The very fact that it already happened to someone in his class and under 
his supervision did not make it apply to me, he was a fifteen year old kid!

I did have to concede one point, that moving about I might put others at 
risk, maybe bumping into a board sticking out from a machine, something like 
that. I don't know how to argue a point like that but in the end it wasn't 
about good or poor arguments.


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To: "Blind Handyman" 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] ideal tool and equipment shop


> Lee,
>
> Guess what, this mystical shop of which you speak, does exist.  It is
> called your local community college.
>
> granted, they gave me some shit when I signed up for a wood working class
> back in the spring.  I jumped through their stupid hoops and signed a
> waiver, but we had full access to a high school shop with lots of tools I
> don't have, and don't have room for.
>
> The only thing that I didn't like was that I thought I was paying for a
> class to learn about wood working, but what I got was access to a shop and
> a guy who would answer your questions if you could get his attention away
> from the one cute girl in the class.  I gave up after a couple of weeks.
> But others may have a better experience if their local community college
> has a class.
>
> Later.
>
> -- 
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> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rotomatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread John Schwery
I don't know about the click ruler since I have never used one.  I 
have used a rotomatic for years and I believe it to be a bit more 
accurate than a click ruler.  Measurements may be able to taken more 
quickly with a click ruler.

earlier, Rob Monitor, wrote:

>Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know  which of
>these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. They are in
>the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent
>for one...
> THANKS ROB
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>To: 
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>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>
>
> > Beyond Sight
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> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:51 AM
> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
> >
> >
> >> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't
> >> remember
> >> where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris.  Can
> >> someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that
> >> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >>
> >>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
Better is a difficult thing to judge here.

The click ruler is quite a bit quicker to set in the range of an accurate 
setting and it can be fairly quick to count clicks to a refined measure 
however you are limited to 16ths of an inch which is plenty for many 
purposes. There is, in my experience, some play within the click stop though 
and for precise measurements this may be unacceptable.

The rotary measure can be very accurate, by including fractions of a turn 
you can get easily to 64ths and less however spinning the nuts, particularly 
toward the gross measure takes time and counting revolutions is more 
laborious than counting clicks.

It is  quite a long time since I used the click rule, they may be improved 
over the four or so intervening decades.

Until recently that improved accuracy didn't matter all that much to me but 
now that I am back to more cabinetry work and my skill improves I find I 
want that better accuracy even at the cost of a little speed. I should 
probably have both rules but the price!

Hope this helps.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Monitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler


> Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know  which of
> these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. They are 
> in
> the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent
> for one...
>THANKS ROB
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dale Alton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>
>
>> Beyond Sight
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Andrew J. LaPointe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:51 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>>
>>
>>> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't
>>> remember
>>> where I got it from.  I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris.  Can
>>> someone tell me where someone can get this now?  I have a friend that
>>> would like to purchase one.  Andy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> or
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>>
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>> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>>
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>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?

2006-10-19 Thread John Schwery
Betsy, that is a good point.  We may just get another pan and do that.

earlier, Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press, wrote:

>If cooking time is an issue, you might go for two ten pounders
>instead of a twenty, assuming that you have room in the oven.
>
>At 05:04 AM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi John,
> >a 15 pounder should do the trick, unless you have real huge eaters!  If you
> >like leftovers, then go for a bigger one!
> >
> >- Original Message -
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> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:14 PM
> >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] turkey, how large?
> >
> >
> > > We are feeding 9 or 10 people for thanksgiving.  How big a Turkey do we
> > > need?
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
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> > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> > > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
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>
>The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
>http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
>The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
>http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
>Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions 
> From Various List Members At The Following Address:
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http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday

The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml

Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion

2006-10-19 Thread David Ferrin
Good idea all right I agree.  The problem is I don't have any of those posts 
saved locally but if anybody else does please forward them directly to me for 
editing and subsequent posting up on the files page.  That would be a lot 
quicker then me having to plow through the archives pages even with the fact 
they are so accessible.  I like this idea very much, good thinking thank you.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Mickey Fixsen 
To: Blind Handyman 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion


Hi all.

It seems to me that it might be helpful if there were files added to the Files 
Page that contain some of the information that is frequently sought here, 
regarding where to buy specialized tools.

For instance, The subject of where to buy the following things have come up 
recently. Things like the Clickrule, Rotomatic, talking multimeter, talking 
tape measure, , and many more items that are either specialized for the blind 
or extremely blind friendly.

Maybe a file could be added for each item, as it comes up on the list and would 
be there for all , for future reference. 

For example, there could be a file entitled "Where to buy the Clickrule". The 
body of the file would then contain the appropriate information. Another one 
could be "Where to buy a talking multimeter". And so forth.

Another file that might be worthwhile is our current discussion talking about 
the pros and cons of the Clickrule and the Rotomatic. It would always be there 
for future reference and we wouldn't have to rewrite it each time the subject 
comes up. People could be referred to the Files Page for, at least, a first 
reference. 

I realize this would take time for someone to do, but it seems to be frequently 
asked info and might be worth the effort. It would be information specifically 
geared toward us blind guys, too.

Now, please don't anyone get all upset over this suggestion. It is simply a 
suggestion and nothing more.

Thanks-- Mickey
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http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
Rubbish! You haul back on the collector when you feel slack in the guide 
dog's chain!

Nothing to it.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fowle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.


> victor,
> Of course you're correct, anybody can do, or try to do, anything they 
> want.
> it's the consequences you have to watch out for.
>
> Maybe we have to say that there are a few things blind folks can't do as
> well as most sighted folks can, most of the time, probably, depending,
> etc.  I once was steered to a blog from some por pilot who
> was talking to some blind guy who was trying to get money
> to buy his own personal helocopter.  He said that reading the instruments
> was going to be the hard part.
> boy was that blind guy naive, reading the instruments wouldn't be that 
> hard.
> but getting a chopper back on the ground without sight would be a real
> test, Now, that, I think, is something a bat just
> couldn't do with any techniques I can imagine today.
>
> Nothing is black and white, except wire colors maybe.
>
> tom
>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From 
> Various List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say anything since I don't 
intend to do it.

BTW, I will soon begin constructing my version of the Norm Abrams Deluxe 
Router table. I intend to keep a cassette machine to hand and describe the 
cut plan, the sequence and the project as it progresses. There may be 
Copyright issues but I don't think I'll ask.

I may require someone to do some editing for digital production when the 
time comes.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Blind Handyman" 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion


> Hi all.
>
> It seems to me that it might be helpful if there were files added to the 
> Files Page that contain some of the information that is frequently sought 
> here, regarding where to buy specialized tools.
>
> For instance, The subject of where to buy the following things have come 
> up recently.  Things like the Clickrule, Rotomatic, talking multimeter, 
> talking tape measure, , and many more items that are either specialized 
> for the blind or extremely blind friendly.
>
> Maybe a file could be added for each item, as it comes up on the list  and 
> would be there for all , for future reference.
>
> For example, there could be a file entitled "Where to buy the Clickrule". 
> The body of the file would then contain the appropriate information. 
> Another one could be "Where to buy a talking multimeter".  And so forth.
>
> Another file that might be worthwhile is our current discussion talking 
> about the pros and cons of the Clickrule and the Rotomatic.  It would 
> always be there for future reference and we wouldn't have to rewrite it 
> each time the subject comes up.  People could be referred to the Files 
> Page for, at least, a first reference.
>
> I realize this would take time for someone to do, but it seems to be 
> frequently asked info and might be worth the effort.  It would be 
> information specifically geared toward us blind guys, too.
>
> Now, please don't anyone get all upset over this suggestion.  It is simply 
> a suggestion and nothing more.
>
> Thanks--  Mickey
>  --
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
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>
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>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From 
> Various List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
> Visit the new archives page at the following address
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale,
Or you pull up on the collective when your stick comes up and bops you on the
chin. And if you're stick isn't vibrating and scraping
you're staying in the same place and not heading for
the control tower.
sounds like a blast.
Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion

2006-10-19 Thread Don
That is a fine idea,  It would be a excellent list resource... Don
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mickey Fixsen 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion


  Hi all.

  It seems to me that it might be helpful if there were files added to the 
Files Page that contain some of the information that is frequently sought here, 
regarding where to buy specialized tools.

  For instance, The subject of where to buy the following things have come up 
recently. Things like the Clickrule, Rotomatic, talking multimeter, talking 
tape measure, , and many more items that are either specialized for the blind 
or extremely blind friendly.

  Maybe a file could be added for each item, as it comes up on the list and 
would be there for all , for future reference. 

  For example, there could be a file entitled "Where to buy the Clickrule". The 
body of the file would then contain the appropriate information. Another one 
could be "Where to buy a talking multimeter". And so forth.

  Another file that might be worthwhile is our current discussion talking about 
the pros and cons of the Clickrule and the Rotomatic. It would always be there 
for future reference and we wouldn't have to rewrite it each time the subject 
comes up. People could be referred to the Files Page for, at least, a first 
reference. 

  I realize this would take time for someone to do, but it seems to be 
frequently asked info and might be worth the effort. It would be information 
specifically geared toward us blind guys, too.

  Now, please don't anyone get all upset over this suggestion. It is simply a 
suggestion and nothing more.

  Thanks-- Mickey
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The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
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Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various 
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[BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measure

2006-10-19 Thread Boyce, Ray
Hi
Please see details of this Talking Tape Measure.
Description

A 16 foot standard metal tape measure that announces the measured length
with an accuracy of .06 of an inch. Just turn it on and pull it out to
the length
of the object or distance being measured, and the distance will be
announced in a pleasant male British voice. It has a memory mode, and
can be used to
measure consecutive distances that exceed its 16 foot length. It will
automatically turn itself off when it is not used for about 15 seconds,
and will
announce a 5 second advance notice of the turn-off. Requires one 9 volt
battery (not included).

Purchase Details

Unit Price: $99.95 
Where to Buy
http://www.independentliving.com/searchprods.asp

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[BlindHandyMan] This weeks show's.

2006-10-19 Thread Don
HI list.  it's  almost show time again.  There is two good show's coming down 
the line for this week.
On the handy show this week,  Mr. Tom reads and we talk about  some list mail.
Our guest name this week is William Miller,   Bill tells us all about some 
would products that  he,.   builds  and  then sells.  Listen in and find out 
about that.  Then we talk a bit at the end of the show.
On the blind like me show this week Phil  visits with Phyllis Campbell,.  
listen in,.   our download the show and find out about what they are talking 
about.  Download links follow.

Handy show  http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpddx4

Blind like me  http://www.sendspace.com/file/pg8w6m

Have a fine week.  Don



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[BlindHandyMan] Deluxe Router Table

2006-10-19 Thread Joe
I really look forward to that, Dale.

Joe


At 07:22 PM 10/19/06, you wrote:
>I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say anything since I don't
>intend to do it.
>
>BTW, I will soon begin constructing my version of the Norm Abrams Deluxe
>Router table. I intend to keep a cassette machine to hand and describe the
>cut plan, the sequence and the project as it progresses. There may be
>Copyright issues but I don't think I'll ask.
>
>I may require someone to do some editing for digital production when the
>time comes.
>
>
>Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype DaleLeavens
>Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Blind Handyman" 
>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:26 PM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion
>
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > It seems to me that it might be helpful if there were files added to the
> > Files Page that contain some of the information that is frequently sought
> > here, regarding where to buy specialized tools.
> >
> > For instance, The subject of where to buy the following things have come
> > up recently.  Things like the Clickrule, Rotomatic, talking multimeter,
> > talking tape measure, , and many more items that are either specialized
> > for the blind or extremely blind friendly.
> >
> > Maybe a file could be added for each item, as it comes up on the list  and
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> >
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> >
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> > about the pros and cons of the Clickrule and the Rotomatic.  It would
> > always be there for future reference and we wouldn't have to rewrite it
> > each time the subject comes up.  People could be referred to the Files
> > Page for, at least, a first reference.
> >
> > I realize this would take time for someone to do, but it seems to be
> > frequently asked info and might be worth the effort.  It would be
> > information specifically geared toward us blind guys, too.
> >
> > Now, please don't anyone get all upset over this suggestion.  It is simply
> > a suggestion and nothing more.
> >
> > Thanks--  Mickey
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff

2006-10-19 Thread Tony Thurman
I bought a small compressor from them last year and have been pleased with
it.  

I recently purchased a hose reel on ebay.  Its not the self winding model
but was cheap and is very sturdhy and is much better than messing with the
hose.
 
Tony

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of William Stephan
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:47 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff

 Well, I've been whining for a year or so about how much I need one of those
Tissot vibrating watches that cost $400 or so.  And, my wife I believe was
going to buy me one for Xmas.  Yesterday though, I decided I could save
money and really be happier buying a compressor, which I've also been
whining about not having. 

So, after I got the "clearance" from my wife, I checked around a bit and
finally bought a small relatively inexpensive one from Harbor Freight.

I was able to get the compressor, hose, coupling set, blow gun, 3/8 drill
and 3/8 air ratchet for about $160.00, and that includes shipping.  
And, since I saved us so much money, I'm going to have another 30 amp line
put on the breaker box in the basement, which is something else I've wanted
for a while.

BTW, I got really good service from the folks at Harbor Freight.



Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Victor Gouveia
Bite me, Bob!!!

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Driving and Flying.

2006-10-19 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Tom,

Even in that analogy, you run into a problem, because they aren't black and 
white any longer, are they?

You run into weird colours in telephone wires, and don't even get me started on 
three ring circus wire, they can come in 346 different colours of the rainbow.

My God, I think I'll just keel over and die, who the heck can live in this 
crappy sight dependant world?

Certainly not me, although, I have to admit, some of the intimate stuff is a 
great deal better, now that I'm blind, oh, well, maybe I'll stick around for 
another millennium.

Victor Gouveia

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff

2006-10-19 Thread Loren buntemeyer
How many PSI capacity?

Loren
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony Thurman 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:57 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff


  I bought a small compressor from them last year and have been pleased with
  it.  

  I recently purchased a hose reel on ebay.  Its not the self winding model
  but was cheap and is very sturdhy and is much better than messing with the
  hose.
   
  Tony

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of William Stephan
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:47 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Harbor Freight, a good tradeoff

   Well, I've been whining for a year or so about how much I need one of those
  Tissot vibrating watches that cost $400 or so.  And, my wife I believe was
  going to buy me one for Xmas.  Yesterday though, I decided I could save
  money and really be happier buying a compressor, which I've also been
  whining about not having. 

  So, after I got the "clearance" from my wife, I checked around a bit and
  finally bought a small relatively inexpensive one from Harbor Freight.

  I was able to get the compressor, hose, coupling set, blow gun, 3/8 drill
  and 3/8 air ratchet for about $160.00, and that includes shipping.  
  And, since I saved us so much money, I'm going to have another 30 amp line
  put on the breaker box in the basement, which is something else I've wanted
  for a while.

  BTW, I got really good service from the folks at Harbor Freight.



  Bill Stephan
  Kansas City, MO
  (816)803-2469
  William Stephan



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deluxe Router Table

2006-10-19 Thread Dan Rossi
Dale,

I purchased the plans for that table as well, but haven't gotten around to 
even watching the video yet.  I am hoping to work on it this winter. 
Maybe we can discuss it between us.

Later.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
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[BlindHandyMan] just a test please delete

2006-10-19 Thread Lee A. Stone


 did this make it? my mail here is bouncing or was. Lee
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deluxe Router Table

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
Hi Dave,

I had one of my daughters who has an interest in building and more, is now a 
Master of Education in vision impaired teaching to comment the plans so more 
sense could be made of the cut plans for the sheet goods and so on.

I must touch up the formatting and transcribe into braille.

I might, for fun, submit something to The New Yankee when it is done along 
with a request that on the Video, he include more commentary including the 
sizes he is cutting. He does it all except that, I assume on the television 
show to keep people from just writing it down and not bothering to buy the 
plans but once you have purchased it, what would be the harm?

It could probably be done at time of shooting the programme and then just 
edited out.

I expect I'll get started when we get back from Houston.


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> Dale,
>
> I purchased the plans for that table as well, but haven't gotten around to
> even watching the video yet.  I am hoping to work on it this winter.
> Maybe we can discuss it between us.
>
> Later.
>
> -- 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deluxe Router Table

2006-10-19 Thread Dale Leavens
Sorry I meant Hi Dan!!!


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- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Deluxe Router Table


> Dale,
>
> I purchased the plans for that table as well, but haven't gotten around to
> even watching the video yet.  I am hoping to work on it this winter.
> Maybe we can discuss it between us.
>
> Later.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel: (412) 268-9081
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
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> or
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion

2006-10-19 Thread Max Robinson
Looks like more work for me and David.  Well, as has been said many times 
before, that's why we get paid the big bucks.  Please don't anyone take 
offence to this post.  It's a joke.

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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Files page suggestion


> Hi all.
>
> It seems to me that it might be helpful if there were files added to the 
> Files Page that contain some of the information that is frequently sought 
> here, regarding where to buy specialized tools.
>
> For instance, The subject of where to buy the following things have come 
> up recently.  Things like the Clickrule, Rotomatic, talking multimeter, 
> talking tape measure, , and many more items that are either specialized 
> for the blind or extremely blind friendly.
>
> Maybe a file could be added for each item, as it comes up on the list  and 
> would be there for all , for future reference.
>
> For example, there could be a file entitled "Where to buy the Clickrule". 
> The body of the file would then contain the appropriate information. 
> Another one could be "Where to buy a talking multimeter".  And so forth.
>
> Another file that might be worthwhile is our current discussion talking 
> about the pros and cons of the Clickrule and the Rotomatic.  It would 
> always be there for future reference and we wouldn't have to rewrite it 
> each time the subject comes up.  People could be referred to the Files 
> Page for, at least, a first reference.
>
> I realize this would take time for someone to do, but it seems to be 
> frequently asked info and might be worth the effort.  It would be 
> information specifically geared toward us blind guys, too.
>
> Now, please don't anyone get all upset over this suggestion.  It is simply 
> a suggestion and nothing more.
>
> Thanks--  Mickey
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Edward Przybylek
Hi Rob,

I've been thinking of buying one or both of these devices.  As long 
as you've done the research, just how much do they cost?  Thanks.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek

At 04:47 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
>Hi, Just Rob again. Thanks for the info on the rulers I sent for the 
>click ruler believe that will work for me for now... Can't believe 
>how much they are ...
> THANKS ROB
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler

2006-10-19 Thread Edward Przybylek
Hi Mickey,

It sounds like both these devices take a little effort to get a 
measurement.  Which of the two would you say is faster to use?  With 
most of the things I do, I'm willing to sacrifice accuracy in favor 
of speed.  Thanks.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek

At 06:00 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
>Rob,
>
>There really is not a "better".  As others have said there is an 
>accuracy difference.  They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
>
>The Clickrule is faster to adjust than the Rotomatic to get your measurement.
>
>The Clickrule will do inside measurements more easily than the 
>Rotomatic (in most circumstances), just because of its design.
>
>The Rotomatic will lie completely flat against your work piece so 
>that you get better measurements.  Because of the 2 stop blocks and 
>the knob on the Clickrule, it won't always be lying right against 
>your workpiece and, therefore, your accuracy may suffer.
>
>The clickrule can actually have better than a 1/16" accuracy, 
>especially when transfering measurements.  The lock knob can be 
>locked between the detents (which are 1/16" apart) for this added accuracy.
>
>The way you read the two devices is a bit different, too.  The 
>Rotomatic is read at the 1/2" increments when the raised thread is 
>flush (you just can't feel it) with the edge of the large 
>rectangular nut and the mark is on the same side as the raised 1/2" 
>marks.  The Clickrule 1/2" increments are read with the raised 
>thread left so that you can still feel it next to the body of the 
>tool.  To check this with either tool:
>
>1.  Run the big rectangular nut on the Rotomatic all the way to the 
>zero end of the tool and have it flush with the end with the mark on 
>the same side as the raised 1/2" marks.  With the Click rule, flush 
>the end of the threaded piece with the body of the tool (the zero point.
>2.  Now with the Rotomatic, rotate the large rectangular nut exactly 
>8 full turns and you will see how it ligns up with the first 1/2" 
>raised mark.  On the Clickrule, move the body of the tool exactly 8 
>clicks to lengthen it and you will see how it aligns with the first 
>raised 1/2" mark.
>
>They both use 3/8" diameter extension rods, but the thread of the 
>attaching screw is different between the two rules.  They both use a 
>Number 10 screw, but the Rotomatic uses a 10-24 coarse thread and 
>the Clickrule uses a 10-32 fine thread.  I have both rules and have 
>changed all of the extension rods to the 10-24 thread, so that all 
>are interchangeable.  I, also, make some of my own extension rods 
>which are up to 36" long.  I have actually used these tools to well 
>over 20 feet in length.
>
>The Clickrule has 2 stop blocks on it so that you can read either up 
>to 6 inches or 12 inches.  You will have to remember which stop 
>block you are using for each particular measurement.  There is , 
>also, a 1/4" offset that you will have to get used to with both 
>tools.  This comes into play depending on which side of the stop 
>block or the rectangular nut you are measuring to.  You'll get the hang of it.
>
>Good luck
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Rob Monitor
>   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:27 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] click ruler or rototmatic ruler
>
>
>   Hi, This is Rob again and I was wondering if any one would know which of
>   these rulers is better. The click ruler or the rototmatic ruler. 
> They are in
>   the NFB STORE. Also thank you for the information on the multimeter I sent
>   for one...
>   THANKS ROB
>   - Original Message -
>   From: "Dale Alton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: 
>   Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:53 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>
>   > Beyond Sight
>   > - Original Message -
>   > From: "Andrew J. LaPointe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   > To: 
>   > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:51 AM
>   > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure...
>   >
>   >
>   >> Clear DayHi, I have purchased a talking tape measure but, I can't
>   >> remember
>   >> where I got it from. I keep thinking I got it from Ann Morris. Can
>   >> someone tell me where someone can get this now? I have a friend that
>   >> would like to purchase one. Andy.
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>
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>   >>
>   >>
>   >>
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>   >>
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>   >>
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>   >>
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>   >> Various List Members At The Following Address:
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