[BlindHandyMan] Re: Compusult display reader:

[Tom Fowle]

Hi all,
Here's what I got from the folks at compusult about the digicite
display reader.  Obviously something you reallly have to need
badly. to summarize if you don't want to read through his detailed
response, it works with only a single piece of gear  and must be
custom installed by them starts at U.S. $2,395 plus $800.00  daily fee
for the installer.

I've not forwarded there attached PDF file as I think what's here
says what needs saying.

Happy holidays to all.

tom

Digicite information request: (Forward From [EMAIL PROTECTED])
From: "Paul Mitten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Tom Fowle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Digicite information request:

Thank you for your inquiry concerning DigiCite.


DigiCite is a machine vision system that is used to convert alphanumeric
messages on electronic displays into alternative formats, such as speech
output, for blind and visually impaired persons. DigiCite is designed to
be
used as a fixed-in-place system for a single piece of equipment,
typically
for "reading" LED, VFD and VGA displays on electronic devices in the
workplace. DigiCite does not work with LCD displays. The cost of a
DigiCite
system starts at US $2,395 and requires on-site installation and
configuration by qualified Compusult technical personnel.


In answer to your specific questions:



To what extent does the unit need to be customized to individual
products?



As indicated above, DigiCite requires on-site installation and
configuration
by qualified Compusult technical personnel for use with any specific
piece
of equipment.



Can it be used with a range of devices without customization?



No.



How accurately does the user need to aim a camera at the display, in
both
distance and angular measure?



The camera is mounted at a fixed-in-place position in front of the
equipment's digital message display. The user does not aim the camera or
modify its position at any time.



How fast is the conversion and reading process? E.G. seconds, tens of
seconds or more?



Typically 1 to 2 seconds.



Can DigiCite be hand held?



No, not at this time.



What is the cost of the system to individuals, and what is the cost
range
for customization if required?



As indicated above, DigiCite starts at US $2,395. Customization costs US
$800 per day, not including travel and living expenses.



I've attached our product brochure for your further reference.



If you require additional information or have more questions about
DigiCite,
please call or e-mail me.



We appreciate your interest in our Assistive Technology products and
look
forward to hearing from you again.



Best regards,

Paul Mitten
Vice-President





40 Bannister Street
P.O. Box 1000
Mount Pearl, NL, Canada
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Toll-free: 1-888-388-8180

  Tel: 709-745-7914, ext. 19
  Fax: 709-745-7927

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   Web:   http://www.Compusult.net




   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Scratched Glass repair

[Dale Leavens]

Hi,

I would add that there are compounds which have very close refractory 
coefficients to glass which can be applied to scratched or chipped glass. 
These are used on small damaged areas of wind shields for automobiles. We 
have a couple of national franchised companies here in Canada which do this 
and the repair is much cheaper than replacing a car window. I am sure you 
have them in the United States and probably Australia as well. I don't know 
if this would be a reasonable option for a magnifying glass depending on the 
vision of the user I suppose, the repair is not absolutely invisible I am 
told but darn close. Don't know if the cost would be worth it either, I 
expect our local fellow would do it free for someone who, say needed it for 
reading or something, one of the perks of really small town living.

Polishing a scratch out of a magnifying glass may alter the optical 
characteristics of the magnification a little because the optical 
characteristics depend on the shape of the curve so, removing a little of 
the glass will change the angle of incidence at which the lite leaves the 
glass. Again if used by someone with low vision for something like reading 
this probably won't matter much unless one ends up polishing a significant 
flat spot. This is precisely how one goes about polishing and fabrication of 
mirrors and lenses when they make their own home made telescopes, hours and 
hours of circular motion of cutting compounds over the surface of the glass 
until it is very precisely ground hollow in the middle to focus light 
gathered from a wide area toward a focal point effectively magnifying and 
increasing the light density at that point so it is more visible. Unless the 
scratch is very small you will want to grind glass off of a much larger area 
of the lens to preserve the magnifying curve.

Interesting problem.



Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Scratched Glass repair


> Hi Betsy
> ANSWER: It depends on how deep the scratches are. If you can catch your
> fingernail on the scratch in the glass, it is probably too deep to remove.
>
> Hairline or very light scratches can be removed or lightened using an
> abrasive compound. Start by using an automotive-polishing compound or a
> whitening-type
> toothpaste. Hand rub in a circular motion. It may take awhile to make any
> progress.
>
> There are also special glass-polishing compounds available from a glass
> company you can use, or you can use iron oxide (also called jeweler's 
> rouge
> or polishing
> rouge) which is a very fine, dark red powder available at hobby shops or
> jewelry supply stores. Mix 1 ounce of iron oxide into a paste with 1 ounce
> glycerin
> and 1 ounce water. Put a small amount on a cloth and rub the scratches. 
> Wash
> it off with clear water from time to time to check your progress. It may
> take
> awhile to see results. Be careful not to apply too much pressure or you
> could shatter the glass. If you use a glass-polishing compound, you can 
> use
> a power
> buffer.
>
> This requires a lot of pressure, and is recommended only for mirrors or
> glass that can be removed and laid flat and supported from underneath.
>
> Another option is to contact a glass company and have your glass
> professionally buffed. However, if the scratches are too deep, they will 
> be
> permanently
> etched into the glass and will be permanent. In that case your only option
> is to replace the glass.
> HTH
>
> Ray
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com" 
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:07 AM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Scratched Glass repair
>
>
>> Aloha all,
>> My friend has one of those lamps with a large round magnifying glass
>> in the center with a tube-like light that goes around the outside of
>> the glass. Somehow she has managed to scratch the magnifying glass.
>> Any ideas about smoothing out the scratch?
>> Thanks...
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
>
>
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up

[Dale Leavens]

All Right!

I bet I know just where to find one.

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up


> Dear Dale:
>One more note, the two plugs I have are different in that one has a 
> handle that screws in to expand the plug but it also flips ninety degrees 
> to suddenly lock it tight.  The second plug has a simple small tee handle 
> in the center which is used to tighten or loosen the plug.  These are 
> available at any marine dealer or supply.
>
>Yours Truly,
>
>Clifford Wilson
> - Original Message - 
> From: Dale Leavens
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up
>
>
> Well Clifford,
>
> That is something I was not aware of, any of the plugs I ever saw threaded
> into the boat bottom or transom so that is worth looking for.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype DaleLeavens
> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:49 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up
>
>> Dear Dale:
>> You might try heating up the metal around the whole, which in turn will
>> heat the rubber and hopefully, you will get a softer rubber plug which
>> will yield to your pressure to remove it.
>> I have a couple of rubber plugs which are around one inch in diameter,
>> which were used in boats which I owned in the past. Those plugs should
>> work well for this application, if I understand how it is set up.
>>
>> Yours Truly,
>>
>> Clifford Wilson
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> To listen to the show archives go to link
>> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
>> or
>> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>>
>> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
>> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>>
>> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
>> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>>
>> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From
>> Various List Members At The Following Address:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
>> Visit the new archives page at the following address
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/
>> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man
>> list just send a blank message to:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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>
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> To listen to the show archives go to link
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> or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From 
> Various List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up

[clifford]

Dear Dale:
One more note, the two plugs I have are different in that one has a handle 
that screws in to expand the plug but it also flips ninety degrees to suddenly 
lock it tight.  The second plug has a simple small tee handle in the center 
which is used to tighten or loosen the plug.  These are available at any marine 
dealer or supply.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson
- Original Message - 
From: Dale Leavens 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up


Well Clifford,

That is something I was not aware of, any of the plugs I ever saw threaded 
into the boat bottom or transom so that is worth looking for.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

- Original Message - 
From: "clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up

> Dear Dale:
> You might try heating up the metal around the whole, which in turn will 
> heat the rubber and hopefully, you will get a softer rubber plug which 
> will yield to your pressure to remove it.
> I have a couple of rubber plugs which are around one inch in diameter, 
> which were used in boats which I owned in the past. Those plugs should 
> work well for this application, if I understand how it is set up.
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Clifford Wilson
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From 
> Various List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
> Visit the new archives page at the following address
> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/
> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Scratched Glass repair

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Betsy
ANSWER: It depends on how deep the scratches are. If you can catch your 
fingernail on the scratch in the glass, it is probably too deep to remove.

Hairline or very light scratches can be removed or lightened using an 
abrasive compound. Start by using an automotive-polishing compound or a 
whitening-type
toothpaste. Hand rub in a circular motion. It may take awhile to make any 
progress.

There are also special glass-polishing compounds available from a glass 
company you can use, or you can use iron oxide (also called jeweler's rouge 
or polishing
rouge) which is a very fine, dark red powder available at hobby shops or 
jewelry supply stores. Mix 1 ounce of iron oxide into a paste with 1 ounce 
glycerin
and 1 ounce water. Put a small amount on a cloth and rub the scratches. Wash 
it off with clear water from time to time to check your progress. It may 
take
awhile to see results. Be careful not to apply too much pressure or you 
could shatter the glass. If you use a glass-polishing compound, you can use 
a power
buffer.

This requires a lot of pressure, and is recommended only for mirrors or 
glass that can be removed and laid flat and supported from underneath.

Another option is to contact a glass company and have your glass 
professionally buffed. However, if the scratches are too deep, they will be 
permanently
etched into the glass and will be permanent. In that case your only option 
is to replace the glass.
HTH

Ray

- Original Message - 
From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Scratched Glass repair


> Aloha all,
> My friend has one of those lamps with a large round magnifying glass
> in the center with a tube-like light that goes around the outside of
> the glass. Somehow she has managed to scratch the magnifying glass.
> Any ideas about smoothing out the scratch?
> Thanks...
> Betsy
>
>
>





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11:30 AM

Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Tom Huhn]

I can't tell if you need a laxitiv or some kaopectate sorry I couldn't resist I 
think I ate too much turkey the last few dayssorry again blind humor
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:43 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


  Hi,

  Looking for suggestions.

  I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to roll 
out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it out so I 
could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round shape for 
next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer on each side 
and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, when you tighten the 
wingnut it pulls the two washers together which thickens the rubber and it fits 
water tightly in the hole in the side of the drum.

  Well it wouldn't come out!

  I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it does, I 
will never again retrieve.

  This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily available 
but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they inform me they are 
right out of stock as if they had just sold the last one minutes before my 
arrival. Not only that but they are expecting more on the next truck on Tuesday 
but without fail, some other needy bungger seems to get there before me but I 
digress.

  So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the little 
beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would be pulling 
on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the stopper but I did it 
anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of those pressed metal 
things and it decided to slide off of the threads instead, a consequence I had 
not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes probably in my neighbours yard 
somewhere over my shed where he will doubtless find it in the spring and wonder 
which of his devices it had been liberated from.

  I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I 
still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner washer 
and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that hole 
including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too tight.

  The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer than 
required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just melt it or 
burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well leave it to 
rattle about inside there.

  Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone has; 
Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Dale Leavens]

Thanks, I'll check it out but I suspect those are large wooden bungs.



Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Gallik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


> Dale,
>
> There's a web site that sells bungs for wine barrels, do you suppose this
> might a source for you? Here's the URL:
>
>http://www.bestbung.com/
>
>
> 
> Bill Gallik
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - "Ability will never catch up with the demand for it."
> - Malcolm Forbes
>
>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From 
> Various List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
> Visit the new archives page at the following address
> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/
> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man 
> list just send a blank message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 
> 26/11/2006
>
> 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Dale Leavens]

Armando, that is quite correct and I never thought of it. I have a set of 
those rubber drill sanding drums and even as I was reading your suggestion I 
thought "What in hell is he talking about?"

They are exactly the same idea.

I have seen bungs with a lever like arrangement on the end which levers the 
bolt through in the past.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Armando Del Gobbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


> Dale, you may want to wet the plug, to make it more pliable!
> To replace it, would a rubber insert from a drum sander work for you!  As 
> you tighten the bolt, it expands to hold the sanding drum!
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Dale Leavens
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!
>
>
>  Great idea and I have one of those too! Hope the hole isn't too big and 
> that
>  I have enough dexterity to lose the bolt without losing the rubber bung
>  
>
>  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Skype DaleLeavens
>  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:20 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!
>
>  > Dale,
>  > For some reason a cork screw comes to mind.. I used one last weekend 
> that
>  > had a couple of arms that stayed up until the screw was all the way in
>  > than were pried down against the neck of the bottle which reuslted in 
> the
>  > cork being raised. The bung rim may not be right for this style, but
>  > maymaybe the old bolt could be pushed in and a regular corkscrew 
> screwedd
>  > into the rubber and hopefully result on the pull being distrbuted
>  > throughout the cork or plug So it could be just pulled out. Of course
>  > next time a new bolt would be nedded and maybe not shove the thing in 
> as
>  > far..
>  > Ron
>  > - Original Message - 
>  > From: Dale Leavens
>  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:43 PM
>  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Looking for suggestions.
>  >
>  > I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to
>  > roll out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle 
> it
>  > out so I could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's 
> round
>  > shape for next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a 
> washer
>  > on each side and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so,
>  > when you tighten the wingnut it pulls the two washers together which
>  > thickens the rubber and it fits water tightly in the hole in the side 
> of
>  > the drum.
>  >
>  > Well it wouldn't come out!
>  >
>  > I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it
>  > does, I will never again retrieve.
>  >
>  > This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily
>  > available but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they
>  > inform me they are right out of stock as if they had just sold the last
>  > one minutes before my arrival. Not only that but they are expecting 
> more
>  > on the next truck on Tuesday but without fail, some other needy bungger
>  > seems to get there before me but I digress.
>  >
>  > So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the
>  > little beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which 
> would
>  > be pulling on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the
>  > stopper but I did it anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one 
> of
>  > those pressed metal things and it decided to slide off of the threads
>  > instead, a consequence I had not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes
>  > probably in my neighbours yard somewhere over my shed where he will
>  > doubtless find it in the spring and wonder which of his devices it had
>  > been liberated from.
>  >
>  > I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way 
> I
>  > still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner
>  > washer and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of 
> that
>  > hole including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain 
> too
>  > tight.
>  >
>  > The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer
>  > than required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I 
> just
>  > melt it or burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as 
> well
>  > leave it to rattle about inside there.
>  >
>  > Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone
>  > has; Either an idea to try or a source for

Re: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up

[Dale Leavens]

Well Clifford,

That is something I was not aware of, any of the plugs I ever saw threaded 
into the boat bottom or transom so that is worth looking for.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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- Original Message - 
From: "clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] all bunged up


> Dear Dale:
>You might try heating up the metal around the whole, which in turn will 
> heat the rubber and hopefully, you will get  a softer rubber plug which 
> will yield to your pressure to remove it.
>I have a couple of rubber plugs which are around one inch in diameter, 
> which were used in boats which I owned in the past.  Those plugs should 
> work well for this application, if I understand how it is set up.
>
>Yours Truly,
>
>Clifford Wilson
>
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[pythonden21]

Since part of your problem is the availability of bungs, you might try either 
asking the hanrdware store to order you some, although this might require 
getting a much larger nmber than you need, or asking them to put some on hold 
for 
you when the next order comes in, and in either of those cases make sure you 
get the proper size.

As to your neighbor, :)   You might just warn them and maybe come spring you 
might get the lost one back.

Py

> Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone has; 
> Either an idea to try or a source for bungs
> 



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[BlindHandyMan] Scratched Glass repair

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

Aloha all,
My friend has one of those lamps with a large round magnifying glass 
in the center with a tube-like light that goes around the outside of 
the glass. Somehow she has managed to scratch the magnifying glass. 
Any ideas about smoothing out the scratch?
Thanks...
Betsy

[BlindHandyMan] all bunged up

[clifford]

Dear Dale:
You might try heating up the metal around the whole, which in turn will 
heat the rubber and hopefully, you will get  a softer rubber plug which will 
yield to your pressure to remove it.
I have a couple of rubber plugs which are around one inch in diameter, 
which were used in boats which I owned in the past.  Those plugs should work 
well for this application, if I understand how it is set up.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Armando Del Gobbo]

Dale, you may want to wet the plug, to make it more pliable!  
To replace it, would a rubber insert from a drum sander work for you!  As you 
tighten the bolt, it expands to hold the sanding drum!  

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


  Great idea and I have one of those too! Hope the hole isn't too big and that 
  I have enough dexterity to lose the bolt without losing the rubber bung 
  

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

  - Original Message - 
  From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

  > Dale,
  > For some reason a cork screw comes to mind.. I used one last weekend that 
  > had a couple of arms that stayed up until the screw was all the way in 
  > than were pried down against the neck of the bottle which reuslted in the 
  > cork being raised. The bung rim may not be right for this style, but 
  > maymaybe the old bolt could be pushed in and a regular corkscrew screwedd 
  > into the rubber and hopefully result on the pull being distrbuted 
  > throughout the cork or plug So it could be just pulled out. Of course 
  > next time a new bolt would be nedded and maybe not shove the thing in as 
  > far..
  > Ron
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Dale Leavens
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:43 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!
  >
  >
  > Hi,
  >
  > Looking for suggestions.
  >
  > I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to 
  > roll out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it 
  > out so I could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round 
  > shape for next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer 
  > on each side and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, 
  > when you tighten the wingnut it pulls the two washers together which 
  > thickens the rubber and it fits water tightly in the hole in the side of 
  > the drum.
  >
  > Well it wouldn't come out!
  >
  > I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it 
  > does, I will never again retrieve.
  >
  > This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily 
  > available but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they 
  > inform me they are right out of stock as if they had just sold the last 
  > one minutes before my arrival. Not only that but they are expecting more 
  > on the next truck on Tuesday but without fail, some other needy bungger 
  > seems to get there before me but I digress.
  >
  > So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the 
  > little beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would 
  > be pulling on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the 
  > stopper but I did it anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of 
  > those pressed metal things and it decided to slide off of the threads 
  > instead, a consequence I had not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes 
  > probably in my neighbours yard somewhere over my shed where he will 
  > doubtless find it in the spring and wonder which of his devices it had 
  > been liberated from.
  >
  > I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I 
  > still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner 
  > washer and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that 
  > hole including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too 
  > tight.
  >
  > The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer 
  > than required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just 
  > melt it or burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well 
  > leave it to rattle about inside there.
  >
  > Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone 
  > has; Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.
  >
  > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Skype DaleLeavens
  > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >
  >
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  > or
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  >
  > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
  > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Bill Gallik]

Dale,

There's a web site that sells bungs for wine barrels, do you suppose this
might a source for you? Here's the URL:

http://www.bestbung.com/



Bill Gallik
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Dale Leavens]

It is an inch I think, I'll try that too.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


> Hey Dale, you might try  your local auto parts store, what you are 
> describing sounds allot like a universal freeze plug,  not sure how big 
> your hole is but they came in some fairly large sizes if I am remembering 
> correctly.  Bob
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Dale Leavens
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:43 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!
>
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Looking for suggestions.
>
>  I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to 
> roll out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it 
> out so I could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round 
> shape for next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer 
> on each side and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, 
> when you tighten the wingnut it pulls the two washers together which 
> thickens the rubber and it fits water tightly in the hole in the side of 
> the drum.
>
>  Well it wouldn't come out!
>
>  I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it 
> does, I will never again retrieve.
>
>  This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily 
> available but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they 
> inform me they are right out of stock as if they had just sold the last 
> one minutes before my arrival. Not only that but they are expecting more 
> on the next truck on Tuesday but without fail, some other needy bungger 
> seems to get there before me but I digress.
>
>  So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the 
> little beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would 
> be pulling on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the 
> stopper but I did it anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of 
> those pressed metal things and it decided to slide off of the threads 
> instead, a consequence I had not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes 
> probably in my neighbours yard somewhere over my shed where he will 
> doubtless find it in the spring and wonder which of his devices it had 
> been liberated from.
>
>  I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I 
> still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner 
> washer and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that 
> hole including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too 
> tight.
>
>  The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer 
> than required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just 
> melt it or burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well 
> leave it to rattle about inside there.
>
>  Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone 
> has; Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.
>
>  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Skype DaleLeavens
>  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
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>
>
>
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> or
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>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
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> Various List Members At The Following Address:
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Dale Leavens]

Great idea and I have one of those too! Hope the hole isn't too big and that 
I have enough dexterity to lose the bolt without losing the rubber bung 




Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
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- Original Message - 
From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


> Dale,
> For some reason a cork screw comes to mind..  I used one last weekend that 
> had a couple of arms that stayed up until the screw was all the way in 
> than were pried down against the neck of the bottle which reuslted in the 
> cork being raised.  The bung rim may not be right for this style, but 
> maymaybe the old bolt could be pushed in and a regular corkscrew screwedd 
> into the rubber and hopefully result on the pull being distrbuted 
> throughout the cork or plug  So it could be just pulled out.  Of course 
> next time a new bolt would be nedded and maybe not shove the thing in as 
> far..
> Ron
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Dale Leavens
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:43 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!
>
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Looking for suggestions.
>
>  I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to 
> roll out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it 
> out so I could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round 
> shape for next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer 
> on each side and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, 
> when you tighten the wingnut it pulls the two washers together which 
> thickens the rubber and it fits water tightly in the hole in the side of 
> the drum.
>
>  Well it wouldn't come out!
>
>  I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it 
> does, I will never again retrieve.
>
>  This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily 
> available but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they 
> inform me they are right out of stock as if they had just sold the last 
> one minutes before my arrival. Not only that but they are expecting more 
> on the next truck on Tuesday but without fail, some other needy bungger 
> seems to get there before me but I digress.
>
>  So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the 
> little beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would 
> be pulling on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the 
> stopper but I did it anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of 
> those pressed metal things and it decided to slide off of the threads 
> instead, a consequence I had not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes 
> probably in my neighbours yard somewhere over my shed where he will 
> doubtless find it in the spring and wonder which of his devices it had 
> been liberated from.
>
>  I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I 
> still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner 
> washer and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that 
> hole including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too 
> tight.
>
>  The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer 
> than required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just 
> melt it or burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well 
> leave it to rattle about inside there.
>
>  Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone 
> has; Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.
>
>  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Skype DaleLeavens
>  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To listen to the show archives go to link
> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html
> or
> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday
>
> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is.
> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
>
> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From 
> Various List Members At The Following Address:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/
> Visit the new archives page at the following address
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Bob]

Hey Dale, you might try  your local auto parts store, what you are describing 
sounds allot like a universal freeze plug,  not sure how big your hole is but 
they came in some fairly large sizes if I am remembering correctly.  Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:43 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


  Hi,

  Looking for suggestions.

  I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to roll 
out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it out so I 
could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round shape for 
next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer on each side 
and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, when you tighten the 
wingnut it pulls the two washers together which thickens the rubber and it fits 
water tightly in the hole in the side of the drum.

  Well it wouldn't come out!

  I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it does, I 
will never again retrieve.

  This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily available 
but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they inform me they are 
right out of stock as if they had just sold the last one minutes before my 
arrival. Not only that but they are expecting more on the next truck on Tuesday 
but without fail, some other needy bungger seems to get there before me but I 
digress.

  So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the little 
beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would be pulling 
on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the stopper but I did it 
anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of those pressed metal 
things and it decided to slide off of the threads instead, a consequence I had 
not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes probably in my neighbours yard 
somewhere over my shed where he will doubtless find it in the spring and wonder 
which of his devices it had been liberated from.

  I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I 
still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner washer 
and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that hole 
including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too tight.

  The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer than 
required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just melt it or 
burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well leave it to 
rattle about inside there.

  Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone has; 
Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[R & S Enterprises]

Dale,
For some reason a cork screw comes to mind..  I used one last weekend that had 
a couple of arms that stayed up until the screw was all the way in than were 
pried down against the neck of the bottle which reuslted in the cork being 
raised.  The bung rim may not be right for this style, but maymaybe the old 
bolt could be pushed in and a regular corkscrew screwedd into the rubber and 
hopefully result on the pull being distrbuted throughout the cork or plug  So 
it could be just pulled out.  Of course next time a new bolt would be nedded 
and maybe not shove the thing in as far..
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:43 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!


  Hi,

  Looking for suggestions.

  I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to roll 
out things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it out so I 
could get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round shape for 
next year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer on each side 
and a bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, when you tighten the 
wingnut it pulls the two washers together which thickens the rubber and it fits 
water tightly in the hole in the side of the drum.

  Well it wouldn't come out!

  I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it does, I 
will never again retrieve.

  This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily available 
but in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they inform me they are 
right out of stock as if they had just sold the last one minutes before my 
arrival. Not only that but they are expecting more on the next truck on Tuesday 
but without fail, some other needy bungger seems to get there before me but I 
digress.

  So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the little 
beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would be pulling 
on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the stopper but I did it 
anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of those pressed metal 
things and it decided to slide off of the threads instead, a consequence I had 
not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes probably in my neighbours yard 
somewhere over my shed where he will doubtless find it in the spring and wonder 
which of his devices it had been liberated from.

  I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I 
still have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner washer 
and I have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that hole 
including smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too tight.

  The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer than 
required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just melt it or 
burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well leave it to 
rattle about inside there.

  Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone has; 
Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.

  Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Skype DaleLeavens
  Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.

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[rj]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence

[Jewel Blanch]

In spite of having a well constructed electric fence which follows, in most 
part,  all the rules, I do have my periodic battles with it. 
I was very interested to read here that using plastic hose pipe as an 
insulating barrier may not be the best idea in the world.  There are a few 
places throughout my fence line where the use of plastic hose was the only 
thing I could think of to separate the hot wire from metal standards, such as 
when the wire was actually passing through the groove on the top of a steel 
Waratah.  There is an insulator especially made for situations such as this 
which is a plastic tube containing a metal strip which one can thread onto the 
wire, but, if the wire has any sort of a kink in it, they will get caught and 
stuck as they are a very tight fit, even on a completely straight wire.   
A short will often develop after a gale when stray bits of flying detritus 
become entangled around the hot and cold wires, but I can't  say that the 
plastic hose pipe has had any detrimental affect on the operation of the fence.
Incidentally, I heard part of a news item the other night that spoke of the 
invention by of course, an innovative Kiwi farmer, of an unshortable electric 
fence, but, unfortunately, I did not catch the details.

  Jewel 

From: Doug Rose 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:45 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence


Hi Hank, I have two different electric fence controllers. Which kind of
controller do you have? I will copy below 7 common sins of fence controller
installations listed off the web and a link to same page with very good
instructions for troubleshooting.

There are of course different kinds of fence controllers and installations.
Sounds that you tested the controller's terminals and it has output there
but along the fence there is no electrical charge that you can detect? Is
this true? Here is the web info, good success.

"THE SEVEN SINS OF
FENCE CONTROLLER INSTALLATIONS

1. 
An insufficient ground system for the fence controller. (Refer to Step 2 of
the installation instructions.) 

2. 
Stray voltage may occur when the fence controller ground system is located
within 50 ft. of a utility ground, buried water pipe, or buried telephone
wire.
(Refer to Step 2 of the installation instructions and Radio Interference
Section.) 

3. 
Inadequately insulated lead-out wire and jumper wires (wire must be
insulated to 20,000V minimum). (Refer to Step 1 of the installation
instructions.) 

4. 
The ground wire is not adequately insulated and is located 20 ft. or more
from fence controller. (Refer to Step 2 of the installation instructions.) 

5. 
Inferior connections and splices of the fence wire, ground wire, lead-out
wire, and jumper wires. (Refer to Step 3 of the installation instructions.) 

6. 
Substandard fence wire insulation: cracked insulators, poor quality
insulators, water hose, plastic tubing, or the use of wood posts without
insulators.
(Refer to Step 3 of the installation instructions.) 

7. 
The fence controller is underpowered for the condition of the fence being
energized (i.e., rain, snow, ice, vegetation, rusty wire, and length of
fence).
(Refer to "How Electric Fencing
Works" in this manual.)" 

This information was copied from: 
http://www.afence.com/Electric_Fence/how_to_elecfence/elecinstall.htm

Doug Rose
Rosepond Aquatics
707-839-0588
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rosepond.com  

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On Behalf Of gail johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:38 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence

I was wondering if anyone on this list has installed an electric fence? 
I installed one following the directions given but I do not have any 
voltage on the fence line.

Hank Johnson

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[BlindHandyMan] All bungged up!

[Dale Leavens]

Hi,

Looking for suggestions.

I have a roller which you fill with water or sand for adding weight to roll out 
things like the lawn. I released the bung and tried to wiggle it out so I could 
get the water out of it in an effort to preserve it's round shape for next 
year. The rubber bung is a round rubber plug with a washer on each side and a 
bolt which runs through the middle and a wingnut so, when you tighten the 
wingnut it pulls the two washers together which thickens the rubber and it fits 
water tightly in the hole in the side of the drum.

Well it wouldn't come out!

I wiggled and jiggled and all it wanted to do was go in which, if it does, I 
will never again retrieve.

This would not worry me all that much if a replacement was easily available but 
in the past, every time I go to my hardware store they inform me they are right 
out of stock as if they had just sold the last one minutes before my arrival. 
Not only that but they are expecting more on the next truck on Tuesday but 
without fail, some other needy bungger seems to get there before me but I 
digress.

So, I put a small prybar on the wingnut musing as I tried wiggling the little 
beggar that pulling on the nut was pulling on the bolt which would be pulling 
on the washer inside the drum which would be expanding the stopper but I did it 
anyway. I was mistaken though, the wingnut was one of those pressed metal 
things and it decided to slide off of the threads instead, a consequence I had 
not anticipated. The wingnut now reposes probably in my neighbours yard 
somewhere over my shed where he will doubtless find it in the spring and wonder 
which of his devices it had been liberated from.

I did grab the bolt with a small pair of channel locks so, in some way I still 
have hold of the rubber stopper and bolt and at least the inner washer and I 
have tried, with this hold to jiggle the rubber out of that hole including 
smearing Vaseline over it but, the fit seems to remain too tight.

The hole appears to be maybe an inch and the bolt only a little longer than 
required but I am thinking I won't get it out of there unless I just melt it or 
burn it with a torch which really isn't useful, might as well leave it to 
rattle about inside there.

Anyway, I thought I would put it out there on the list in case someone has; 
Either an idea to try or a source for bungs.



Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence

[Aimee Glover]

Are you talking about a dog electric fence or a horse electric fence?  We
have installed a horse fence.  Please give us more details.

 

Aimee Glover E.S.M.T.

www.gaeqm.com (Equine Sports Massage Therapy)

www.gaeqf.com (Green Acres Equestrian Farm a quality boarding facility)

HYPERLINK "http://www.equinesoft.com/"www.equinesoft.com (Mobile software
for the care and management of equines)HYPERLINK
"http://www.ridingwithpride.com/";
www.ridingwithpride.com  (Equine forums)



 

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On Behalf Of gail johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 8:38 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence

 

I was wondering if anyone on this list has installed an electric fence? 
I installed one following the directions given but I do not have any 
voltage on the fence line.

Hank Johnson

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence

[Doug Rose]

Hi Hank, I have two different electric fence controllers.  Which kind of
controller do you have?  I will copy below 7 common sins of fence controller
installations listed off the web and a link to same page with very good
instructions for troubleshooting.
 
 There are of course different kinds of fence controllers and installations.
Sounds that you tested the controller's terminals and it has output there
but along the fence there is no electrical charge that you can detect?   Is
this true?  Here is the web info, good success.
 
"THE SEVEN SINS OF
FENCE CONTROLLER INSTALLATIONS

1. 
An insufficient ground system for the fence controller. (Refer to Step 2 of
the installation instructions.) 

2. 
Stray voltage may occur when the fence controller ground system is located
within 50 ft. of a utility ground, buried water pipe, or buried telephone
wire.
(Refer to Step 2 of the installation instructions and Radio Interference
Section.) 

3. 
Inadequately insulated lead-out wire and jumper wires (wire must be
insulated to 20,000V minimum). (Refer to Step 1 of the installation
instructions.) 

4. 
The ground wire is not adequately insulated and is located 20 ft. or more
from fence controller. (Refer to Step 2 of the installation instructions.) 

5. 
Inferior connections and splices of the fence wire, ground wire, lead-out
wire, and jumper wires. (Refer to Step 3 of the installation instructions.) 

6. 
Substandard fence wire insulation: cracked insulators, poor quality
insulators, water hose, plastic tubing, or the use of wood posts without
insulators.
(Refer to Step 3 of the installation instructions.) 

7. 
The fence controller is underpowered for the condition of the fence being
energized (i.e., rain, snow, ice, vegetation, rusty wire, and length of
fence).
(Refer to "How Electric Fencing
Works" in this manual.)" 

This information was copied from: 
http://www.afence.com/Electric_Fence/how_to_elecfence/elecinstall.htm
 
Doug Rose
Rosepond Aquatics
707-839-0588
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rosepond.com   

 
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of gail johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:38 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric fence



I was wondering if anyone on this list has installed an electric fence? 
I installed one following the directions given but I do not have any 
voltage on the fence line.

Hank Johnson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] miner complante

[carl hickson]

thanks i will look at it 
  - Original Message - 
  From: rj 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] miner complante


  It is usually some thing with your ISP
  - Original Message - 
  From: carl hickson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:49 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] miner complante

  can some one explane why i get a duplocate or some times a triplocate coppy 
of any mesage i send into this group?

  yours carl

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[BlindHandyMan] electric fence

[gail johnson]

I was wondering if anyone on this list has installed an electric fence? 
I installed one following the directions given but I do not have any 
voltage on the fence line.

Hank Johnson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] miner complante

[rj]

It is usually some thing with your ISP
  - Original Message - 
  From: carl hickson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:49 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] miner complante


  can some one explane why i get a duplocate or some times a triplocate coppy 
of any mesage i send into this group?

  yours carl

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