Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
There are many of these electric cars here in Madison. There are also many streets that have odd intersections that come together at very odd angles. Sometimes 5 streets come together at once. There are also roads with stop signs as there are everywhere. When there is a stop sign and no parallel traffic and an electric car is going or waiting at the stop sign I certainly can't hear it. There have been many times when if I were using my cane and not my dog I would have been squashed. David adi- Original Message - From: Trouble To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. you would think they could find a issue that is more forth coming then a handful of cars. When I see or hear more of them on the road then mini vans. i will take notice, but for now i just go with traffic like everyone else. A bigger issue is identification of money, witch they stepped away from, Better transportation within town and cities, and more education for the public that thinks helpless still spells blind. New name for NFB, Not For the Blind! At 09:56 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote: Sure hope the NFB leadership don't get a donation from these folks. RJ - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 21:37 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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you would think they could find a issue that is more forth coming then a handful of cars. When I see or hear more of them on the road then mini vans. i will take notice, but for now i just go with traffic like everyone else. A bigger issue is identification of money, witch they stepped away from, Better transportation within town and cities, and more education for the public that thinks helpless still spells blind. New name for NFB, Not For the Blind! At 09:56 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote: Sure hope the NFB leadership don't get a donation from these folks. RJ - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 21:37 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora
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And I hope the NFB hires a real accoustics engineer who understands how to generate actually locatable sound and how to taylor it to the ambient noise. Otherwise some idiot will just put a sonalert on the things and we won't be able to tell em from those bloody backup beepers or car alarms. Tom
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There is one place where a well trained and maintained dog has it over us cane nerds. Tom
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
I've had toyota Prius's pass me at very slow sped when it's quite and all you hear is tires on road junk. If it was noisy good luck. Once they're moving at any speed the gas engine starts up. Tom
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
sorry to say amen brother Philadelphia has a few 5 way circles and other pents in my area and I'm not looking forward to the standard driving idiot (sorry, overwhelmed multi tasking visual person at the wheel) smacking me with a silent bullet. Center City Philadelphia has trouble enough with bicycles, and don't need the silent vehicle weighing over a ton. On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, David Sexton wrote: There are many of these electric cars here in Madison. There are also many streets that have odd intersections that come together at very odd angles. Sometimes 5 streets come together at once. There are also roads with stop signs as there are everywhere. When there is a stop sign and no parallel traffic and an electric car is going or waiting at the stop sign I certainly can't hear it. There have been many times when if I were using my cane and not my dog I would have been squashed. David adi- Original Message - From: Trouble To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. you would think they could find a issue that is more forth coming then a handful of cars. When I see or hear more of them on the road then mini vans. i will take notice, but for now i just go with traffic like everyone else. A bigger issue is identification of money, witch they stepped away from, Better transportation within town and cities, and more education for the public that thinks helpless still spells blind. New name for NFB, Not For the Blind! At 09:56 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote: Sure hope the NFB leadership don't get a donation from these folks. RJ - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 21:37 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
It's those really noisy diesels, busses and trucks, needlessly loud motorcycles and hopped up exhausts which insist on revving their engines and otherwise making excessive noise which I object to. Can't hear a thing until they are blocks past you, hybrid, electric or anything else. Road construction, jack hammers, they all obliterate useful auditory information. Here we don't have so much trouble with that but the snow plows, snow throwers and in the summer, passing a lawn mower on a corner at a street crossing covers all useful sounds. Personally, I welcome quieter urban environments. Might even make one of those sonic devices so favoured by Tom a practical aide to mobility. - Original Message - From: Trouble To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. you would think they could find a issue that is more forth coming then a handful of cars. When I see or hear more of them on the road then mini vans. i will take notice, but for now i just go with traffic like everyone else. A bigger issue is identification of money, witch they stepped away from, Better transportation within town and cities, and more education for the public that thinks helpless still spells blind. New name for NFB, Not For the Blind! At 09:56 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote: Sure hope the NFB leadership don't get a donation from these folks. RJ - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 21:37 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 10:26 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
Speaking of roads and strange intersections, there are 2 that come to mind in my town. One is called 5 points and the other is 6 points. You can probably figure out why these intersections have these names. And they are a bear to cross. You can get around them, but I tried crossing 6 points once. Hopefully not again. Shane - Original Message - From: David Sexton To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. There are many of these electric cars here in Madison. There are also many streets that have odd intersections that come together at very odd angles. Sometimes 5 streets come together at once. There are also roads with stop signs as there are everywhere. When there is a stop sign and no parallel traffic and an electric car is going or waiting at the stop sign I certainly can't hear it. There have been many times when if I were using my cane and not my dog I would have been squashed. David adi- Original Message - From: Trouble To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. you would think they could find a issue that is more forth coming then a handful of cars. When I see or hear more of them on the road then mini vans. i will take notice, but for now i just go with traffic like everyone else. A bigger issue is identification of money, witch they stepped away from, Better transportation within town and cities, and more education for the public that thinks helpless still spells blind. New name for NFB, Not For the Blind! At 09:56 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote: Sure hope the NFB leadership don't get a donation from these folks. RJ - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 21:37 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1290
[BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over.
funny you should mention this... Just last weekend I took my dog over to a local golf course where electric golf carts abound and talked some folks into letting us walk out in front of their golf carts so that both dog and I could get some idea about this whole hybrid car Bravo Sierra. It took my dog one close call and he realized that the silent cars were going to be his responsibility and from that point foreword he treated them like any other idiot driver during rush hour. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boyce, Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:37 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 158196897) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=158196897m=6d048913ab94c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=158196897m=6d048913ab94c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=158196897m=6d048913ab94c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
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Sure hope the NFB leadership don't get a donation from these folks. RJ - Original Message - From: Boyce, Ray To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 21:37 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Seeing Eye has a Toyota Prius that they use during training. I can hear them coming unless there is other traffic. Then too, I play a good bit of golf and the first time I heard a hybrid I asked if someone was driving a golf cart on the street. They are actually quieter than a cart. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. funny you should mention this... Just last weekend I took my dog over to a local golf course where electric golf carts abound and talked some folks into letting us walk out in front of their golf carts so that both dog and I could get some idea about this whole hybrid car Bravo Sierra. It took my dog one close call and he realized that the silent cars were going to be his responsibility and from that point foreword he treated them like any other idiot driver during rush hour. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boyce, Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:37 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Hear It Coming, Before It Knocks You Over. Members of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) will testify before the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee regarding the extreme danger silent hybrid cars pose to the blind, as well as other pedestrians, cyclists, and small children. Date: February 19, 2008 Time: 1:00 p.m. Location: Miller Senate Office Building, Room 2 East Annapolis, Maryland 21401 When compared to vehicles using traditional combustion engines, hybrid vehicles are virtually silent when accelerating and decelerating, making it impossible for blind individuals to detect their presence. To address this problem, Senator Norman Stone has introduced Senate Bill 276. If passed, the bill will establish a task force to make recommendations regarding a minimum sound standard for all new vehicles sold and licensed in Maryland. About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. National Federation of the Blind ** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of Eraring Energy must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by Eraring Energy. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach InfoWest Spam Trap if this mail (ID 158196897) is spam: Spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=158196897m=6d048913ab94c=s Not spam: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=158196897m=6d048913ab94c=n Forget vote: https://spamtrap.infowest.com/canit/b.php?i=158196897m=6d048913ab94c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
