RE: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-03 Thread Tom Hodges
For us, life is too short to be spending it without a vehicle.  My wife
would be gone two hours longer each day if she had to find other
transportation to go to and from work.  Also, waiting for a cab around here
can take an hour or so going and the same returning.  I'd rather pay the
cost of vehicle ownership than to waste hour after hour waiting for
transportation and I certainly wouldn't burden my friends or relatives for a
rides.  Life is just too short.  We have a van so anything we buy, including
sheets of plywood or drywall can easily be transported in any weather.  If
no one in the house is sighted or can't drive for some other reason, that's
another story.  But, if someone can drive, why spend valuable time looking
for and waiting for a way to get somewhere.  Do you think we could get a
half dozen sheets of drywall on a public bus?

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:09 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

 

  

this is funny
living with out a car is not an option out here were i live12 miles from the
nearest town.
jim in minnesota

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-03 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins
Tom,

I think you raise some excellent points. I guess each person or couple need
to decide what is important and make decisions accordingly. I do think being
without a vehicle is much easier if you live in a large metropolitan area.
Where my wife and I reside it could be doable but would involve as you
point out much waiting and some inconvenience on friends etc. If you have a
modestly priced vehicle the costs are not exorbitant. Bottom line is
whatever decision a family makes it comes with some cost

Al -Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of Tom Hodges
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:32 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  For us, life is too short to be spending it without a vehicle. My wife
  would be gone two hours longer each day if she had to find other
  transportation to go to and from work. Also, waiting for a cab around here
  can take an hour or so going and the same returning. I'd rather pay the
  cost of vehicle ownership than to waste hour after hour waiting for
  transportation and I certainly wouldn't burden my friends or relatives for
a
  rides. Life is just too short. We have a van so anything we buy, including
  sheets of plywood or drywall can easily be transported in any weather. If
  no one in the house is sighted or can't drive for some other reason,
that's
  another story. But, if someone can drive, why spend valuable time looking
  for and waiting for a way to get somewhere. Do you think we could get a
  half dozen sheets of drywall on a public bus?

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of jim
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:09 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  this is funny
  living with out a car is not an option out here were i live12 miles from
the
  nearest town.
  jim in minnesota

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-03 Thread Jennifer Jackson
I think this is an issue that will be a bother for more communities, rural and 
urban, as the baby boomer generation ages.  This is a generation of people who 
are used to having good mobility to come and go at will who will begin to loose 
the ability to drive safely.  Of course many of them will continue to drive far 
past that safety point because they will believe they have no other choice.

I to have a spouse who can drive and it is something that makes my life easier. 
 I have also lived as an independent blind person for many years without such a 
spouse and am very aware of the hassle of getting larger items home from the 
store.


Jennifer

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  For us, life is too short to be spending it without a vehicle. My wife
  would be gone two hours longer each day if she had to find other
  transportation to go to and from work. Also, waiting for a cab around here
  can take an hour or so going and the same returning. I'd rather pay the
  cost of vehicle ownership than to waste hour after hour waiting for
  transportation and I certainly wouldn't burden my friends or relatives for a
  rides. Life is just too short. We have a van so anything we buy, including
  sheets of plywood or drywall can easily be transported in any weather. If
  no one in the house is sighted or can't drive for some other reason, that's
  another story. But, if someone can drive, why spend valuable time looking
  for and waiting for a way to get somewhere. Do you think we could get a
  half dozen sheets of drywall on a public bus?

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of jim
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:09 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  this is funny
  living with out a car is not an option out here were i live12 miles from the
  nearest town.
  jim in minnesota

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-03 Thread Dan Rossi
Tom,

That is a choice that you and your wife made, but it isn't one I am 
willing to make.

I live in a city where need of a car is limited.  I walk to work, or
take the bus, and it takes me a lot less time to get to work than many of 
the people I work with who drive taking long commutes fighting their way 
through traffic.  My wife and I own a vehicle, but it is a small fuel 
efficient vehicle.  For the handful of times a year I need a large 
vehicle, it would be extremely wasteful to drive a large van around the 
rest of the time.

Also, I utterly refuse to live somewhere, where as a blind person, I am 
trapped in my home without the ability to get anywhere other than by 
having someone else drive me there.  I can easily walk to the grocery 
store, three blocks away, walk to coffee shops, pharmacies, liquor store, 
restaurants, blah blah blah, and I can do it without having to require a 
sighted person to drive me there.

There are always trade-offs though.  I live in a very small home.  I have 
very little property.  It is a town house so I have to be that much more 
respectful and tolerant of my neighbors.  We do not have off street 
parking.  I pay higher taxes.

But for me personally, and it is my choice, and others will have made 
different choices, but for me, the fact that I can live my life 
independently, have a very short commute to and from work, make a fraction 
of an environmental impact do to driving so little, and living in a small 
house is much more important to me than the alternative.

We are getting way outside of the topic for this list though, so I will 
say no more on the topic.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-03 Thread Lee A. Stone

we did not do it in Minnesota Jim but did  further  upstate  ,NY with 
justa old wagon with two volkswagon care seats monted and a good mule  
of course now mule  or  horse feed is no longer cheap but she mowed the 
lawn, provided fertilizer as well as  a job for the kids to do . and 
 cannot think of his name who wrode from Bruke,NY next to the Canadian 
border by bujckboard wagon  out to your neck of the oods.  oh it was 
Almonzo wilder who  ended up out there . Lee


 On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 
09:08:59PM -0600, jim 
wrote:
 this is funny
  living with out a car is not an option out here were i live12 miles from the 
 nearest town.
 jim in minnesota
 
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Jennifer Jackson
My son spotted a sign the last time we were at Home depot about renting a truck 
from them.  It was about $20 for a little over an hour.  I will be asking about 
it the next time I need a load of something delivered from the home repair 
store.  I thought it was a great idea.


Jennifer
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here. 
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who 
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we 
  do know sighted people who drive.

  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it 
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good 
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the 
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly 
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance, 
  and milage.

  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps 
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve 
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a 
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only 
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't 
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location. 
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill 
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to 
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether 
  you rent for an hour or a day.

  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the 
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup 
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although, 
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the 
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour 
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half 
  hour.

  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of 
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car 
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't 
  extend.

  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup 
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle, 
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.

  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's 
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my 
  experience.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Dan Rossi
Jennifer,

Yes, I've also used the truck rental from Lowes or Home Depot, I forget 
which.  You get it for 75 minutes, and it is $19.95 plus taxes and fees.

The zip car concept seems a bit better for me because it offers a lot of 
other options and is cheaper, assuming I use it more than a couple of 
times a year.  But the Home Depot truck is definitely a better deal than 
UHaul, and is pretty convenient if you can get the truck.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Don
I recently read a good audio book, called car free. Basically about a growing 
group of sighted folks, that are learning, that they actually can live with out 
a car, by using altermitive forms of transportation, such as buses cabs, from 
time to time, and  renting a car are truck, once an a while, all so walking, 
and riding bikes.
They are finally realizing how much money they can save very quickly with out a 
car payment, and all the insurance, and repairs, that go along with owning a 
car.
This Zip car idea would be great for them.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here. 
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who 
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we 
  do know sighted people who drive.

  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it 
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good 
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the 
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly 
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance, 
  and milage.

  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps 
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve 
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a 
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only 
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't 
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location. 
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill 
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to 
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether 
  you rent for an hour or a day.

  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the 
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup 
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although, 
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the 
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour 
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half 
  hour.

  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of 
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car 
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't 
  extend.

  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup 
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle, 
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.

  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's 
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my 
  experience.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread RJ
Dear Bob and all,

I am very unhappy that this company won't rent me one of their vehicles, after 
they ask me for my driver licenses and all I could come up with was my 5 foot 6 
inch white cane, plus my state ID card . I tried to explain, with a cane this 
long, I could and would feel the curb without problems, as long as the steering 
wheel was on the right hand side. They refused to accommodate my needs. 
Thinking of filing a ADA complaint.
RJ
  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 19:55
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  Dear Dan:
  I have never heard of this company, but I like the idea. The next logical 
step is to equip these vehicles, for a nominal fee of course, with a driver 
with suitable credentials, and I would be pleased to draw up those parameters.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here. 
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who 
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we 
  do know sighted people who drive.

  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it 
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good 
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the 
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly 
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance, 
  and milage.

  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps 
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve 
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a 
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only 
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't 
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location. 
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill 
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to 
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether 
  you rent for an hour or a day.

  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the 
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup 
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although, 
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the 
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour 
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half 
  hour.

  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of 
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car 
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't 
  extend.

  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup 
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle, 
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.

  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's 
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my 
  experience.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread john schwery
RJ, just drive on the left side of the road.

earlier, RJ, wrote:


Dear Bob and all,

I am very unhappy that this company won't rent 
me one of their vehicles, after they ask me for 
my driver licenses and all I could come up with 
was my 5 foot 6 inch white cane, plus my state 
ID card . I tried to explain, with a cane this 
long, I could and would feel the curb without 
problems, as long as the steering wheel was on 
the right hand side. They refused to accommodate 
my needs. Thinking of filing a ADA complaint.
RJ
- Original Message -
From: clifford
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 19:55
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

Dear Dan:
I have never heard of this company, but I like 
the idea. The next logical step is to equip 
these vehicles, for a nominal fee of course, 
with a driver with suitable credentials, and I 
would be pleased to draw up those parameters.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson
- Original Message -
From: Dan Rossi
To: Blind Handyman List
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:16 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here.
Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who
does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we
do know sighted people who drive.

Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it
looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good
benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the
world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly
or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance,
and milage.

The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps
of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve
online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a
special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only
the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't
unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location.
The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill
the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to
fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether
you rent for an hour or a day.

Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the
teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup
trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although,
there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the
first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour
minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half
hour.

There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of
your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car
has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't
extend.

I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup
truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle,
especially if he does it a few days in advance.

Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's
hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my
experience.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Bob Kennedy
Can't think of the last time I saw a pick up truck with long white curb 
feelers.  I'd be upset too.
  - Original Message - 
  From: RJ 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  Dear Bob and all,

  I am very unhappy that this company won't rent me one of their vehicles, 
after they ask me for my driver licenses and all I could come up with was my 5 
foot 6 inch white cane, plus my state ID card . I tried to explain, with a cane 
this long, I could and would feel the curb without problems, as long as the 
steering wheel was on the right hand side. They refused to accommodate my 
needs. Thinking of filing a ADA complaint.
  RJ
  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 19:55
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  Dear Dan:
  I have never heard of this company, but I like the idea. The next logical 
step is to equip these vehicles, for a nominal fee of course, with a driver 
with suitable credentials, and I would be pleased to draw up those parameters.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here. 
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who 
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we 
  do know sighted people who drive.

  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it 
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good 
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the 
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly 
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance, 
  and milage.

  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps 
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve 
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a 
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only 
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't 
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location. 
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill 
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to 
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether 
  you rent for an hour or a day.

  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the 
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup 
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although, 
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the 
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour 
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half 
  hour.

  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of 
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car 
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't 
  extend.

  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup 
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle, 
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.

  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's 
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my 
  experience.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Lenny McHugh
Wow! aren't we showing our age? Curb Feelers! Guess you need a suicide knob 
as well.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Kennedy inthes...@att.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.


Can't think of the last time I saw a pick up truck with long white curb 
feelers.  I'd be upset too.
  - Original Message - 
  From: RJ
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  Dear Bob and all,

  I am very unhappy that this company won't rent me one of their vehicles, 
after they ask me for my driver licenses and all I could come up with was my 
5 foot 6 inch white cane, plus my state ID card . I tried to explain, with a 
cane this long, I could and would feel the curb without problems, as long as 
the steering wheel was on the right hand side. They refused to accommodate 
my needs. Thinking of filing a ADA complaint.
  RJ
  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 19:55
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  Dear Dan:
  I have never heard of this company, but I like the idea. The next logical 
step is to equip these vehicles, for a nominal fee of course, with a driver 
with suitable credentials, and I would be pleased to draw up those 
parameters.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi
  To: Blind Handyman List
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here.
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we
  do know sighted people who drive.

  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance,
  and milage.

  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location.
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether
  you rent for an hour or a day.

  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although,
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half
  hour.

  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't
  extend.

  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle,
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.

  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my
  experience.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Betsy Whitney
Aloha Don and all,
I don't know if this is the same book, but on the NLS site I found:


How to Live Well without Owning a Car: Save 
Money, Breathe Easier, and Get More Mileage out of Life

Balish, Chris. Read by Bill Wallace. Reading time 7 hours 30 minutes.
Social Sciences

Award-winning journalist offers a guide to a 
car-free lifestyle. Explains the financial, 
health, and ecological benefits of not owning an 
automobile and provides practical strategies for 
commuting, running errands, traveling, dating, 
and socializing using mass transit, bicycles, and 
ride-sharing. Includes testimonials from car-free 
consumers across America. 2006.
Betsy


At 10:58 AM 2/2/2010, you wrote:


I recently read a good audio book, called car 
free. Basically about a growing group of sighted 
folks, that are learning, that they actually can 
live with out a car, by using altermitive forms 
of transportation, such as buses cabs, from time 
to time, and renting a car are truck, once an a 
while, all so walking, and riding bikes.
They are finally realizing how much money they 
can save very quickly with out a car payment, 
and all the insurance, and repairs, that go along with owning a car.
This Zip car idea would be great for them.

- Original Message -
From: Dan Rossi
To: Blind Handyman List
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here.
Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who
does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we
do know sighted people who drive.

Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it
looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good
benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the
world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly
or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance,
and milage.

The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps
of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve
online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a
special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only
the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't
unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location.
The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill
the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to
fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether
you rent for an hour or a day.

Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the
teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup
trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although,
there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the
first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour
minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half
hour.

There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of
your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car
has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't
extend.

I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup
truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle,
especially if he does it a few days in advance.

Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's
hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my
experience.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Spiro
yes this seems to be the way to go.
I'm really impressed with these services and Philadelphia has two 
companies that I've heard, are working now.





On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

 This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here.
 Many blind handymen don't own vehicles.  Often we may not know someone who
 does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck.  But we
 do know sighted people who drive.

 Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it
 looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good
 benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

 You pay a $50 annual fee.  Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the
 world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly
 or daily rental fee.  The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance,
 and milage.

 The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps
 of where the various cars are located on the website.  You can reserve
 online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance.  You have a
 special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it.  The card will unlock only
 the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it.  It won't
 unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location.
 The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill
 the tank.  Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to
 fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

 Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether
 you rent for an hour or a day.

 Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the
 teens for high end vehicles.  They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup
 trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour.  Although,
 there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the
 first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour.  There is a one hour
 minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half
 hour.

 There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of
 your rental period.  You can extend your period by phone, but if the car
 has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't
 extend.

 I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup
 truck as well.  He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle,
 especially if he does it a few days in advance.

 Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's
 hands on a vehicle from time to time.  Less expensive than UHaul from my
 experience.

 -- 
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
 E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Tel:  (412) 268-9081



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Spiro
the last time i did a big job from Home Depot they wanted $35 to deliver 
anything they could get into a big truck. So unless there were other 
stops, or it was a little load; this doesn't work in that situation.
especially if back and forth would take longer with a two truck load of 
stuff.
But the zip car numbers nicely.





On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Dan Rossi wrote:

 Jennifer,

 Yes, I've also used the truck rental from Lowes or Home Depot, I forget
 which.  You get it for 75 minutes, and it is $19.95 plus taxes and fees.

 The zip car concept seems a bit better for me because it offers a lot of
 other options and is cheaper, assuming I use it more than a couple of
 times a year.  But the Home Depot truck is definitely a better deal than
 UHaul, and is pretty convenient if you can get the truck.


 -- 
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
 E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Tel:  (412) 268-9081



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread jim
this is funny
 living with out a car is not an option out here were i live12 miles from the 
nearest town.
jim in minnesota


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Spiro
I believe it started in NYcity where many folks go without cars.




On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Don wrote:

 I recently read a good audio book, called car free. Basically about a growing 
 group of sighted folks, that are learning, that they actually can live with 
 out a car, by using altermitive forms of transportation, such as buses cabs, 
 from time to time, and  renting a car are truck, once an a while, all so 
 walking, and riding bikes.
 They are finally realizing how much money they can save very quickly with out 
 a car payment, and all the insurance, and repairs, that go along with owning 
 a car.
 This Zip car idea would be great for them.

  - Original Message -
  From: Dan Rossi
  To: Blind Handyman List
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here.
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we
  do know sighted people who drive.

  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.

  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance,
  and milage.

  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location.
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.

  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether
  you rent for an hour or a day.

  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although,
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half
  hour.

  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't
  extend.

  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle,
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.

  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my
  experience.

  --
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Don
This is it  a  fine interesting book.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  Aloha Don and all,
  I don't know if this is the same book, but on the NLS site I found:

  How to Live Well without Owning a Car: Save 
  Money, Breathe Easier, and Get More Mileage out of Life

  Balish, Chris. Read by Bill Wallace. Reading time 7 hours 30 minutes.
  Social Sciences

  Award-winning journalist offers a guide to a 
  car-free lifestyle. Explains the financial, 
  health, and ecological benefits of not owning an 
  automobile and provides practical strategies for 
  commuting, running errands, traveling, dating, 
  and socializing using mass transit, bicycles, and 
  ride-sharing. Includes testimonials from car-free 
  consumers across America. 2006.
  Betsy

  At 10:58 AM 2/2/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  I recently read a good audio book, called car 
  free. Basically about a growing group of sighted 
  folks, that are learning, that they actually can 
  live with out a car, by using altermitive forms 
  of transportation, such as buses cabs, from time 
  to time, and renting a car are truck, once an a 
  while, all so walking, and riding bikes.
  They are finally realizing how much money they 
  can save very quickly with out a car payment, 
  and all the insurance, and repairs, that go along with owning a car.
  This Zip car idea would be great for them.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Dan Rossi
  To: Blind Handyman List
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.
  
  This is pretty tangentially related to handyman stuff, but follow me here.
  Many blind handymen don't own vehicles. Often we may not know someone who
  does own a proper vehicle, something useful like a pickup truck. But we
  do know sighted people who drive.
  
  Teresa and I have rented trucks in the past for hauling large items but it
  looks like this Zip Car concept, www.zipcar.com, has some pretty good
  benefits as well as being comparatively inexpensive.
  
  You pay a $50 annual fee. Then you can use any Zip Car anywhere in the
  world, they are pretty much only in major cities, for a reasonable hourly
  or daily rental fee. The rental fee includes gas, insurance, maintenance,
  and milage.
  
  The cars are parked at various locations around a city, and there are maps
  of where the various cars are located on the website. You can reserve
  online anywhere from a few hours, to a year in advance. You have a
  special ZIPCar card, with an RFID tag on it. The card will unlock only
  the specific car you reserved at the time you reserved it. It won't
  unlock it early, and it won't unlock a different car in another location.
  The keys are in the car, and there is a gas card that you can use to fill
  the tank. Don't ask me how they prevent you from using the gas card to
  fill your car, I haven't seen that answer yet.
  
  Technically, milage isn't unlimited, but you get 180 free miles whether
  you rent for an hour or a day.
  
  Vehicles rent for anywhere from 7 bucks an hour up to something in the
  teens for high end vehicles. They have a couple of Toyota Tacoma pickup
  trucks in Pittsburgh and those rent for about $11.50 an hour. Although,
  there are PA and PGH taxes and fees that make it more like $16.50 for the
  first hour, and $12.50 for each additional hour. There is a one hour
  minimum rental period, but after the first hour you can rent by the half
  hour.
  
  There are heavy penalties if you don't return the vehicle by the end of
  your rental period. You can extend your period by phone, but if the car
  has already been reserved right after your original period, you can't
  extend.
  
  I've spoken with a guy at work who uses the system mainly for the pickup
  truck as well. He says he never has an issue reserving the vehicle,
  especially if he does it a few days in advance.
  
  Overall, it sounds like a very flexible and affordable way to get one's
  hands on a vehicle from time to time. Less expensive than UHaul from my
  experience.
  
  --
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.

2010-02-02 Thread Don
I agree, definitely for folks, that live in the larger cities.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: jim 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Zip Car.



  this is funny
  living with out a car is not an option out here were i live12 miles from the 
nearest town.
  jim in minnesota

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