Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-29 Thread Spiro
yeah, the stuff does get expensive.




On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Ron Yearns wrote:

> Temperature can be one consideration, but the main reason for using the 
> silver in a c work is its ability to withstand the greater pressures.  Its 
> cost would keep me from using it for everyday  electrical soldering which is 
> usually mechanically sound first and uses the solder for the best connection 
> and reduce any corrosion inside a joint if it is just wrapped.
> Ron
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>  From: Spiro
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:15 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>
>
>
>
>  tell him to have kester make him up a 5% or 6% silver solder. Some folks
>  just want to believe.
>  My question is this: if a 40% or 50% silver solder is somewhere what they
>  use for refridgerant tubing, why *isn't it also for audio; is it the temp
>  required would fry many components?
>
>  I didn't have the terms right, but that was the idea.
>  They are great fuses, if you can stretch that far.
>  Best Regards and thanks.
>
>  On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:
>
>  > I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
>  > and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.
>  >
>  > changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
>  > the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the 
> impedance
>  > of the device.
>  >
>  > Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
>  > to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
>  > resistance. Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is
>  > totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
>  > one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.
>  >
>  > Tom
>  >
>  >
>
>
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>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-29 Thread Spiro
actually there is a sonic difference in high end applications.
re: 2% and 4% silver/tin regularly used.

But the temp shock aspects I didn't know.

Disimilar metals can make it interesting.  Rhodium is a nasty plating to 
which to attempt soldering, a 
tin/silver/copper solder seems to work well.
thanks




On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

> Silver solder melts at a much higher temp than tin/led and creates a much
> stronger bond mechanically.  It'll stand the temp shock of refrigeration
> much better than tin/led
>
> You wouldn't use silver for audio cause it's more expensive and
> there is no point, unless maybe in a very corosive environment.
>
> Also, some metals, Re: brass, don't take tin/led and need silver
> to alloy with.
> Tom
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-28 Thread Ron Yearns
Temperature can be one consideration, but the main reason for using the silver 
in a c work is its ability to withstand the greater pressures.  Its cost would 
keep me from using it for everyday  electrical soldering which is usually 
mechanically sound first and uses the solder for the best connection and reduce 
any corrosion inside a joint if it is just wrapped.
Ron
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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  tell him to have kester make him up a 5% or 6% silver solder. Some folks 
  just want to believe.
  My question is this: if a 40% or 50% silver solder is somewhere what they 
  use for refridgerant tubing, why *isn't it also for audio; is it the temp 
  required would fry many components?

  I didn't have the terms right, but that was the idea.
  They are great fuses, if you can stretch that far.
  Best Regards and thanks.

  On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

  > I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
  > and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.
  >
  > changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
  > the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the impedance
  > of the device.
  >
  > Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
  > to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
  > resistance. Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is
  > totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
  > one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.
  >
  > Tom
  >
  >


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Fowle
Silver solder melts at a much higher temp than tin/led and creates a much 
stronger bond mechanically.  It'll stand the temp shock of refrigeration
much better than tin/led

You wouldn't use silver for audio cause it's more expensive and
there is no point, unless maybe in a very corosive environment.

Also, some metals, Re: brass, don't take tin/led and need silver
to alloy with.
Tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-28 Thread Spiro
tell him to have kester make him up a 5% or 6% silver solder. Some folks 
just want to believe.
My question is this: if a 40% or 50% silver solder is somewhere what they 
use for refridgerant tubing, why *isn't it also for audio; is it the temp 
required would fry many components?

I didn't have the terms right, but that was the idea.
They are great fuses, if you can stretch that far.
Best Regards and thanks.





On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

> I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
> and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.
>
> changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
> the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the impedance
> of the device.
>
> Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
> to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
> resistance.  Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is
> totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
> one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.
>
> Tom
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Fowle
I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.

changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the impedance
of the device.

Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
resistance.  Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is 
totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.

Tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-27 Thread Spiro
your notes here are quite interesting Tom.
I had some replacement fuses for some audio gear. (10A 250w and 6A 250W) 
and they were blowing readily.
I asked the gent who sold them to me, what might be the reason as the amps 
were not doing harder work with any new speakers. he said that German 
fuses are "blow at" and our fuses were "travel through".
Saying what you are below, but indicating that not all are so defined.
i went back to the US and had him order the next size up in the German and 
I can change the without any noticable difference under heavy loads. No 
extra heat at the fins.





On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

> ray,
> We'll see what Ron thinks, but I'd not bother changing for just an ampere of
> difference.
>
> The rating of the fuse is the current it will pass in normal operation
> NOT, as some think, the current required to blow it.  You're only up by an amp
> even if the caravan pulls its full 15 amps, so no deal.
>
> tom
>
>


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread Tom Fowle
Max,
I could also be wet, but I think he had a 220 volt pool pump with a 3 wire
cord.
Tom

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:53:59PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
> Maybe I'm miss remembering the question but I think he wanted to derive two 
> 120 volt circuits from the 4 conductor cable.  If I'm wrong, put it down to 
> old age.
> 
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> 3
> 
> 
> > Max
> > Yes, if so he'd not get 220, they'd be in phase.
> >
> > As someone else said the two 120s should lead back to the same
> > double breaker.
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:44:51PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
> >> Tom wrote.
> >>
> >> > They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> >> > on the same side of the service.
> >>
> >> But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?
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> >> to
> >> 3
> >>
> >>
> >> > Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines
> >> > are
> >> > actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier 
> >> > way,
> >> > but
> >> > I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
> >> > to chec between the two hots to see that they are
> >> > actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread chiliblindman
On a normal breaker panel, every other breaker is the same polarity and will 
give a zero voltage reading to each other.  In a three phase panel every third 
breaker is the same.  The reason for it is any one single breaker is 120 volt 
usually.  A double 220 volt breaker can be plugged in anywhere and have 220 
volt.  On a three phase panel a three phase breaker can be plugged in anywhere 
and you will have three phase power.  There are some that aren't, but they 
center in commercial applications.
..bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread Max Robinson
Maybe I'm miss remembering the question but I think he wanted to derive two 
120 volt circuits from the 4 conductor cable.  If I'm wrong, put it down to 
old age.

Regards.

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To: 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
3


> Max
> Yes, if so he'd not get 220, they'd be in phase.
>
> As someone else said the two 120s should lead back to the same
> double breaker.
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:44:51PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
>> Tom wrote.
>>
>> > They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
>> > on the same side of the service.
>>
>> But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
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>>
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tom Fowle" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire 
>> to
>> 3
>>
>>
>> > Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines
>> > are
>> > actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier 
>> > way,
>> > but
>> > I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
>> > to chec between the two hots to see that they are
>> > actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
>> > on the same side of the service.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread Tom Fowle
Max
Yes, if so he'd not get 220, they'd be in phase.

As someone else said the two 120s should lead back to the same
double breaker.
Tom

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:44:51PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
> Tom wrote.
> 
> > They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> > on the same side of the service.
> 
> But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
> 
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> From: "Tom Fowle" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
> 3
> 
> 
> > Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines 
> > are
> > actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier way, 
> > but
> > I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
> > to chec between the two hots to see that they are
> > actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> > on the same side of the service.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread Max Robinson
Tom wrote.

> They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> on the same side of the service.

But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fowle" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
3


> Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines 
> are
> actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier way, 
> but
> I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
> to chec between the two hots to see that they are
> actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> on the same side of the service.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> 
>
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> Or
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>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-27 Thread Ray Boyce
Hi Tom

This is why this list is so good that you can ask any question and many
members who have the experience you do not, will give you the answer.

Many thanks to all who have taken the time to respond.

Regards 

Ray

 

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ray,
We'll see what Ron thinks, but I'd not bother changing for just an ampere of
difference.

The rating of the fuse is the current it will pass in normal operation
NOT, as some think, the current required to blow it. You're only up by an
amp
even if the caravan pulls its full 15 amps, so no deal.

tom





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread Tom Fowle
Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines are
actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier way, but
I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
to chec between the two hots to see that they are 
actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
on the same side of the service.

Tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-27 Thread Tom Fowle
ray,
We'll see what Ron thinks, but I'd not bother changing for just an ampere of
difference.

The rating of the fuse is the current it will pass in normal operation
NOT, as some think, the current required to blow it.  You're only up by an amp
even if the caravan pulls its full 15 amps, so no deal.

tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread Ron Yearns
What Max told you earlier is basically true.  But do not assume anything.  
Check between the two hot wires to be sure you have 240 volts between them.  
They could have been hooked to the same phase for some unknown reason.  The one 
thing I learned many times over about electricity is check, check, check try it 
and then check again.  Just to make some things clear is  the white of the 
three wire cable on the tub grounded to metal or just running to one side of a 
pump motor and or controller?  If yes then the fourth wire, green or bare from 
the source will hook to any metal and or the metal water pipes in the tub.  The 
green, grounding wire shall never carry current, unless there is a fault.  The 
white carries the other side of 120 volt loads.

Ron.
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  From: Charles Reichardt 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3





  Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire appliance to 
the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and a nutral in the 4 
wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.

  Plese help.

  Charlie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one of. 
Talk later.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-27 Thread Ron Yearns
I don't see a problem with this.  Oh course in the U S we normally start at 15 
and then go to 20, 25, 30 etc unless someone is using the old fuse stats which 
are about extinct.  A little give and take works wonders in electricity.
Ron
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  From: Ray Boyce 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:29 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Hi 

  I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
  my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.

  The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.

  Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.

  I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  extension lead.

  Ron help me on this one.

  Ray 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-27 Thread chiliblindman
Charlie, making that hook-up is bad news unless both the 120 volt lines are 
connected to a single double breaker.  Having two power lines to anything is 
bad news.  People get hunt that way or worse.
...bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Betsy Whitney
Yep, that one I knew.

At 12:29 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>Or a bunch of trailers all going the same place at same time.
>
>At 05:34 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
> >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
> >
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> >From: Betsy Whitney
> >To: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
> >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
> >
> >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
> >Betsy
> >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan 
> and I asked
> > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
> > >
> > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the 
> caravan runs
> > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
> > >
> > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
> > >
> > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> > >extension lead.
> > >
> > >Ron help me on this one.
> > >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Reichardt
thanks much. That's pretty much what I thought.

Charlie
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  From: Max Robinson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3





  The 4 wire cable will have two hots, a neutral and a safety ground. The two 
  hots are on opposite sides of the line and there is 240 volts between them. 
  But between each hot and neutral there is 120 volts. So you connect each 
  120 volt outlet between its own hot and the common neutral. The ground must 
  be connected to the safety ground of the outlets. Never connect the neutral 
  of the outlet to the safety ground and never connect the ground and the 
  neutral together except at the electrical panel.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: "Charles Reichardt" 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
  3

  > Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
  > lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire 
  > appliance to the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and 
  > a nutral in the 4 wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.
  >
  > Plese help.
  >
  > Charlie
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Don
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one 
  > of. Talk later.
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Bob Kennedy
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  > Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a 
  > minivan...
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Betsy Whitney
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  > Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  > At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  > >
  > >- Original Message -
  > >From: Betsy Whitney
  > >To: 
  > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  > >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  > >
  > >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  > >Betsy
  > >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  > >
  > > >Hi
  > > >
  > > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
  > asked
  > > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > > >
  > > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan 
  > runs
  > > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > > >
  > > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > > >
  > > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > > >extension lead.
  > > >
  > > >Ron help me on this one.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-26 Thread Max Robinson
The 4 wire cable will have two hots, a neutral and a safety ground.  The two 
hots are on opposite sides of the line and there is 240 volts between them. 
But between each hot and neutral there is 120 volts.  So you connect each 
120 volt outlet between its own hot and the common neutral.  The ground must 
be connected to the safety ground of the outlets.  Never connect the neutral 
of the outlet to the safety ground and never connect the ground and the 
neutral together except at the electrical panel.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Reichardt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
3


> Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
> lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire 
> appliance to the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and 
> a nutral in the 4 wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.
>
> Plese help.
>
> Charlie
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Don
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>
>
>
>
>  That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one 
> of. Talk later.
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Bob Kennedy
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a 
> minivan...
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Betsy Whitney
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
>  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
>  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
>  >
>  >- Original Message -
>  >From: Betsy Whitney
>  >To: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
>  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>  >
>  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
>  >Betsy
>  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>  >
>  > >Hi
>  > >
>  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
> asked
>  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
>  > >
>  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan 
> runs
>  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
>  > >
>  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
>  > >
>  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
>  > >extension lead.
>  > >
>  > >Ron help me on this one.
>  > >
>  > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Max Robinson
After all the kidding here is another serious answer.  You've already had 
one and I agree with it, the difference is not enough to worry about.  Is 
this a charger for the batteries in the caravan?

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Boyce" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:29 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List


> Hi
>
> I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
> asked
> my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
>
> The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan 
> runs
> 15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
>
> Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
>
> I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> extension lead.
>
> Ron help me on this one.
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Reichardt
Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire appliance to 
the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and a nutral in the 4 
wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.

Plese help.

Charlie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one of. 
Talk later.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
  > >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Don
That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one of.  
Talk later.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
  > >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Bob Kennedy
Or maybe even camels.
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  From: Trouble 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:29 PM
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  Or a bunch of trailers all going the same place at same time.

  At 05:34 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
  > >
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  > >
  > >
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Bob Kennedy
Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
  > >
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  > >
  > >
  >
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  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Sean Paul
Ray, the 16 amp fuse should work just fine.
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  From: Ray Boyce 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 16:29
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Hi 

  I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
  my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.

  The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.

  Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.

  I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  extension lead.

  Ron help me on this one.

  Ray 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Trouble
Or a bunch of trailers all going the same place at same time.

At 05:34 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Betsy Whitney
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
>Betsy
>At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
> >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
> >
> >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
> >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
> >
> >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
> >
> >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> >extension lead.
> >
> >Ron help me on this one.
> >
> >Ray
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
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>
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>

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trouble
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Betsy Whitney
Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Betsy Whitney
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
>Betsy
>At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
> >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
> >
> >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
> >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
> >
> >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
> >
> >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> >extension lead.
> >
> >Ron help me on this one.
> >
> >Ray
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Dale Leavens
We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  Betsy
  At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >Hi
  >
  >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
  >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  >
  >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  >
  >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  >
  >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  >extension lead.
  >
  >Ron help me on this one.
  >
  >Ray
  >
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  >
  >

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

2009-04-26 Thread Betsy Whitney
Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
Betsy
At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>Hi
>
>I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
>my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
>
>The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
>15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
>
>Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
>
>I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
>extension lead.
>
>Ron help me on this one.
>
>Ray
>
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