Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Roundup becomes inert almost immediately on application. It doesn't poison the soil. It cannot be used to sterilize soil, seeds germinate and come right up following application of Roundup. To work it must come in contact with green living vegetation. Salt and oil and other agents, probably not bleach which will bubble off the chlorine fairly quickly but certainly the other agents do persist in the soil and migrate to other areas too. You can use Roundup directly to selectively kill individual plants. Brush some onto a particularly noxious weed among your beauties and it alone will die. You might like to put a cotton glove over a rubber glove and wet a couple of fingers in Roundup then stroke those plants you want to die. It doesn't even have to touch the soil. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 21/03/2007 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
It sounds like you own Monsanto stock. The landfills here which once charged for their compost, now have to give it away, with the proviso to add plenty of dirt to the compost because of the presence of Roundup in the compost. If you're going to use Roundup, you may as well use vinegar. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:19 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup becomes inert almost immediately on application. It doesn't poison the soil. It cannot be used to sterilize soil, seeds germinate and come right up following application of Roundup. To work it must come in contact with green living vegetation. Salt and oil and other agents, probably not bleach which will bubble off the chlorine fairly quickly but certainly the other agents do persist in the soil and migrate to other areas too. You can use Roundup directly to selectively kill individual plants. Brush some onto a particularly noxious weed among your beauties and it alone will die. You might like to put a cotton glove over a rubber glove and wet a couple of fingers in Roundup then stroke those plants you want to die. It doesn't even have to touch the soil. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 21/03/2007 __ NOD32 2136 (20070322) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Miracle Grow says that about their fertilizer too. However, they have just started this ad thing where they remind everyone to sweep spilled fertilizer off the sidewalk and driveways so it does not contaminate the ground water.- Original Message - Jennifer From: Dan H. To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup does not contaminate the soil. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tunecollector Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
sounds like salt and boiling water would make a good edging, and I may not have to keep feeling like impact on the lawn trimmer's cranium is necessary. On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, tunecollector wrote: Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Fertilizer is a very different thing. It is intended to persist in the soil. Some is prized for it's long term qualities. The problem with it is that it gets into streams or ponds and becomes easily available to algae and other plants which choke out life and oxygen from those water ways. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Miracle Grow says that about their fertilizer too. However, they have just started this ad thing where they remind everyone to sweep spilled fertilizer off the sidewalk and driveways so it does not contaminate the ground water.- Original Message - Jennifer From: Dan H. To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup does not contaminate the soil. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tunecollector Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 22/03/2007 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Why would there be Roundup in compost? Particularly in those quantities and further, why would that even be a problem? I spray my fence lines about three times a year and although it kills what ever green there is growing there it certainly doesn't prevent it from coming back. I don't then harvest the stuff for my compost stack it is true but so far the applications have not interfered with new growth coming up. There are pre-emergent herbicides which do persist for some time in the soil, I don't have any real knowledge of them but some farmers do use them to keep early emerging weeds down before planting certain crops but I don't know where or why. Certain forms of 2 4D which are broad leafed herbicides also persist. They have Estrogen like compounds which produce growth and because broad leaves absorb more they grow themselves literally to death. Trouble is that these may also contribute to certain growth defects including in children. Products like Weed Feed are usually some combination including 2 4D. This may be the worry as it is often widely used on lawns and golf courses to keep them weed free. I confess I do generally lay down a spray in the spring. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass It sounds like you own Monsanto stock. The landfills here which once charged for their compost, now have to give it away, with the proviso to add plenty of dirt to the compost because of the presence of Roundup in the compost. If you're going to use Roundup, you may as well use vinegar. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:19 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup becomes inert almost immediately on application. It doesn't poison the soil. It cannot be used to sterilize soil, seeds germinate and come right up following application of Roundup. To work it must come in contact with green living vegetation. Salt and oil and other agents, probably not bleach which will bubble off the chlorine fairly quickly but certainly the other agents do persist in the soil and migrate to other areas too. You can use Roundup directly to selectively kill individual plants. Brush some onto a particularly noxious weed among your beauties and it alone will die. You might like to put a cotton glove over a rubber glove and wet a couple of fingers in Roundup then stroke those plants you want to die. It doesn't even have to touch the soil. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
What do you think happens to oil, salt, vinegar, bleach, all that stuff? I don't submit that Roundup disappears , it just doesn't persist in a form that kills vegetation. It becomes inert. Dog urine also kills grass but the salts persist in the environment in strong enough concentrations to keep the grass and everything else dead for years until either removed or eventually diluted by successive rains. It may be that Roundup is environmentally more friendly than piss! It certainly behaves that way. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass After you spray a plant with Roundup, what do you suppose happens to the Roundup? Do you think it just vanishes off the plant? Compost is made from plant matter that has decayed.That decayed plant matter contains the Roundup. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:23 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Why would there be Roundup in compost? Particularly in those quantities and further, why would that even be a problem? I spray my fence lines about three times a year and although it kills what ever green there is growing there it certainly doesn't prevent it from coming back. I don't then harvest the stuff for my compost stack it is true but so far the applications have not interfered with new growth coming up. There are pre-emergent herbicides which do persist for some time in the soil, I don't have any real knowledge of them but some farmers do use them to keep early emerging weeds down before planting certain crops but I don't know where or why. Certain forms of 2 4D which are broad leafed herbicides also persist. They have Estrogen like compounds which produce growth and because broad leaves absorb more they grow themselves literally to death. Trouble is that these may also contribute to certain growth defects including in children. Products like Weed Feed are usually some combination including 2 4D. This may be the worry as it is often widely used on lawns and golf courses to keep them weed free. I confess I do generally lay down a spray in the spring. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass It sounds like you own Monsanto stock. The landfills here which once charged for their compost, now have to give it away, with the proviso to add plenty of dirt to the compost because of the presence of Roundup in the compost. If you're going to use Roundup, you may as well use vinegar. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:19 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup becomes inert almost immediately on application. It doesn't poison the soil. It cannot be used to sterilize soil, seeds germinate and come right up following application of Roundup. To work it must come in contact with green living vegetation. Salt and oil and other agents, probably not bleach which will bubble off the chlorine fairly quickly but certainly the other agents do persist in the soil and migrate to other areas too. You can use Roundup directly to selectively kill individual plants. Brush some onto a particularly noxious weed among your beauties and it alone will die. You might like to put a cotton glove over a rubber glove and wet a couple of fingers in Roundup then stroke those plants you want to die. It doesn't even have to touch the soil. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Honestly, I don't give a damn as to whether Monsanto turns a buck this year or not, so my remarks on Roundup are not prompted by financial considerations. Roundup and other generic brands of its ilk, are herbicides in the true sense of the word in that their effects are restricted to vegetative material alone. The poison is neutralized upon contact with the soil, so the soil and its fauna are left unharmed. Jewel Original Message - From: tunecollector To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:30 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 22/03/07 7:44 a.m. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
More and more farmers these days are turning to renewing pastures and planting crops with what is known as zero tillage, I cannot deny that reducing expense is a driving force, but it is also a fact that the less exposure the soil has to the compaction caused by heavy machinery the better, as such compaction can severely damage soil structure. In the method known as zero tillage, the green cover is sprayed off with Roundup, and then the seed is drilled directly into the soil. This method means that the soil and its fauna is left, relatively, undisturbed. As I said in my earlier post, I don't give a monkey's uncle whether Monsanto makes 5 or 60 dollars profit this year. Jewel - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Why would there be Roundup in compost? Particularly in those quantities and further, why would that even be a problem? I spray my fence lines about three times a year and although it kills what ever green there is growing there it certainly doesn't prevent it from coming back. I don't then harvest the stuff for my compost stack it is true but so far the applications have not interfered with new growth coming up. There are pre-emergent herbicides which do persist for some time in the soil, I don't have any real knowledge of them but some farmers do use them to keep early emerging weeds down before planting certain crops but I don't know where or why. Certain forms of 2 4D which are broad leafed herbicides also persist. They have Estrogen like compounds which produce growth and because broad leaves absorb more they grow themselves literally to death. Trouble is that these may also contribute to certain growth defects including in children. Products like Weed Feed are usually some combination including 2 4D. This may be the worry as it is often widely used on lawns and golf courses to keep them weed free. I confess I do generally lay down a spray in the spring. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass It sounds like you own Monsanto stock. The landfills here which once charged for their compost, now have to give it away, with the proviso to add plenty of dirt to the compost because of the presence of Roundup in the compost. If you're going to use Roundup, you may as well use vinegar. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:19 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup becomes inert almost immediately on application. It doesn't poison the soil. It cannot be used to sterilize soil, seeds germinate and come right up following application of Roundup. To work it must come in contact with green living vegetation. Salt and oil and other agents, probably not bleach which will bubble off the chlorine fairly quickly but certainly the other agents do persist in the soil and migrate to other areas too. You can use Roundup directly to selectively kill individual plants. Brush some onto a particularly noxious weed among your beauties and it alone will die. You might like to put a cotton glove over a rubber glove and wet a couple of fingers in Roundup then stroke those plants you want to die. It doesn't even have to touch the soil. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tunecollector%40sbcglobal.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
I used roundup to kill grass in my gravel drive way and around the air conditioner. This spring there is a new crop of pretty green grass around the air conditioner, exactly where I don't want it. More roundup will do it in, but the way the grass keeps coming back in places where I have sprayed I think Dale is right that it doesn't persist in the soil. I believe in acting green but lets keep our facts straight or we will destroy our credibility. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Roundup does not contaminate the soil. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tunecollector Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Pouring vinegar onto a plant will kill the leaves but it is not effective in killing the roots. Adding orange oil extract to the vinegar will make it a more potent leaf killer. Adding salt to the soil is more effective at killing the roots. Smothering the weed under plastic or five sheets of newspaper is effective and does not poison the soil. Pouring boiling water onto a weed will harm the root hairs and the weed will wither but not necessarily kill it. By its very content, Roundup is a poison and you are poisoning your soil by applying it. I have been told that bleach is effective but I have no direct knowledge of this. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 7:44 AM To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass.
at one point I started planting neighbors along the fence line, but I ran out of energy before I ran out of neighbors. I might start again this season, but nothing grows there, I can guarenty that. (okay, for the humor impared, I was kidding) On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Dan Rossi wrote: Dale wrote: Dan! I am surprised you hadn't mentioned planting marijuana along the fence line and leave the neighbours take care of it. What neighbors? *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Personally, I'd be afraid to put diesel gas or any kind of oil on my lawn. Some damn environmentalist may call the police and I'd get ticketed for contaminating my soil. Believe me, this can happen in California. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
Ya, that whole destroying the ground water thing. Some people are so picky. Jennifer - Original Message - From: mardal dugal To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass it is felony i do know that [EMAIL PROTECTED] tunecollector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't put it on my lawn either but I do pour it along the fence border. I live in California too and all my neighbor says is pour a little more on my side. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:01 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass Personally, I'd be afraid to put diesel gas or any kind of oil on my lawn. Some damn environmentalist may call the police and I'd get ticketed for contaminating my soil. Believe me, this can happen in California. __ NOD32 2112 (20070313) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] fence grass
You don't know what you may want to do in the future. Maybe plant a privacy hedge inside the dividing fence. If you have permanently poisoned the soil, it is: no go Jo. Repeat spraying with Roundup every couple of months is no great hassle. The reason why Roundup and its ilk only last for a short time is that they are neutralized as soon as they touch the soil, so it, the soil itself and the life that exists under its surface such as worms and dormant seeds is left unharmed. Jewel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass.
Dale wrote: Dan! I am surprised you hadn't mentioned planting marijuana along the fence line and leave the neighbours take care of it. What neighbors? *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass.
To emphasize what Dan has said, fuel oil is far more effective than Roundup. It is the best thing you can do if you are adverse to plutonium. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:59 AM To: BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass. Well, I am sure you have thought of the following ways to keep grass from around the fence, but I'll toss them out anyway. Railroad ties, gravel, cement blocks, mulch, How about you lay down a nice unhealthy dose of fuel oil, then a layer of black plastic, then the ties / block / mulch / gravel. I bet it's a while before any self respecting blade of grass tries to grow there. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 __ NOD32 2085 (20070228) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass.
Get a goat to keep inside the fence with the dog. You'll not have anymore fence grass or weeds! See ya, Scooter Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tunecollector Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:26 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass. To emphasize what Dan has said, fuel oil is far more effective than Roundup. It is the best thing you can do if you are adverse to plutonium. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:59 AM To: BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fence grass. Well, I am sure you have thought of the following ways to keep grass from around the fence, but I'll toss them out anyway. Railroad ties, gravel, cement blocks, mulch, How about you lay down a nice unhealthy dose of fuel oil, then a layer of black plastic, then the ties / block / mulch / gravel. I bet it's a while before any self respecting blade of grass tries to grow there. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 __ NOD32 2085 (20070228) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/86xolB/TM ~- To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
