Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
With a little practice and the right files, one can bring on a good edge, but it all depends on the tool you are sharpening. My double bladed ax I use a medium file first and than the fine file. On others, like my woodmate, I just use a wet stone. On my knifes I just use a steel. RJ - Original Message - From: carl To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools wil that work with gouges and how wud you matain the right angle for the bevel? - Original Message - From: rj To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools A fine file. - Original Message - From: carl To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a dry grinderr thay run to fast? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
carving andturning tools manley - Original Message - From: rj To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools With a little practice and the right files, one can bring on a good edge, but it all depends on the tool you are sharpening. My double bladed ax I use a medium file first and than the fine file. On others, like my woodmate, I just use a wet stone. On my knifes I just use a steel. RJ - Original Message - From: carl To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools wil that work with gouges and how wud you matain the right angle for the bevel? - Original Message - From: rj To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools A fine file. - Original Message - From: carl To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a dry grinderr thay run to fast? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
I was just poking around on Lee Valley and am wondering what the Veritas Sharpening system looks like. It is two parts, a honing guide and an angle jig. So, does this just sit above, or in front of, a sharpening stone? Does it look like a blind person could use it? It talks about sighting along a registration line to keep a narrow blade properly aligned. Has anyone used this system? thanks. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Here is a list of articles dealing with sharpening that have been recorded on CDs by Woodworking for the Blind over the past year. Magazine CD 1 has an article on Sharpening Machines from Fine Woodworking 182, p. 38. Magazine CD 4 has Sharpen With Sandpaper from Fine Woodworking 184, p. 63. Magazine CD 12 has Keeping Tools Sharp from Fine Woodworking 189, p. 80. Magazine CD 7 has Bowl Gouge Sharpening from American Woodworker 123, p. 78. Magazine CD 9 has Slow Speed Grinders from American Woodworker 124, p. 62. Magazine CD 10 has Tune-up an Old Chisel from American Woodworker 125, p. 79. Magazine CD 14 has Reshaping the Skew Chisel from American Woodworker 127, p. 40 as well as Jet's Slow Speed Wet Sharpener from Woodcraft 13 dated January, 2007, p. 67 and Pinnacle Honing Guide from Woodcraft 14 dated March, 2007, p. 66. Magazine CD 7 has Sharpening Drill Bits from Woodsmith 160, p. 12. I cite the magazine name, issue number and page number to help in finding the article on the CD. The book Complete Manual of Woodworking issued on Book CDs 3 and 4 also has sections on sharpening which are fairly general in approach. Any member joining after the time a CD was issued can request back copies so that you have a complete library. Any blind woodworker not yet a member can join by contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Usually this is done by hand, first tilting the gouge to get the proper bevel angle and then smoothly rolling the gouge across the grinder at the same angle to sharpen it from edge to edge. It takes a lot of practice. There are newer tools like the Wolverine sharpening jig that enable you to set the angle and easily roll it from side to side while maintaining the angle. Go to www.leevalley.com or woodcraft.com and look up Wolverine. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers -- Original message -- From: "carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wil that work with gouges and how wud you matain the right angle for the > bevel? > - Original Message - > From: rj > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > > > A fine file. > - Original Message - > From: carl > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > > what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a > dry > grinderr thay run to fast? > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > .com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
chears for your help dale - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools Probably the very best way is with a pond of variously graded water stones and a couple of hones, fine oil stones and maybe a diamond hone. As you gain skill you may want one or mor of those bevel jigs to guide the blade while grinding and later honing a very fine edge. There is the Scary system (spelling uncertain) which uses sand paper stuck to very flat surfaces like plate glass, this is pretty cheap and can grind a well formed edge. Finally I am very impressed with what I have seen in the new generation of slow speed wet grinders. Tormek was probably the first and remains the most expensive but now Delta and Jet have similar units quite a bit cheaper and arguably as good and maybe better. These have a 2 inch wide grinding wheel which turns relatively slowly in a bath of water and which can be finished to grind quite aggressively or finished for a much finer grind and on the other side is a leather wheel which is used with honing compound for a really rather wonderful finish. There is quite a bit of learning with these too, a number of jigs and fixtures for holding various blades from chisels to plane blades or jointer knives and even specially shaped turning chisels. A collection of decent stones gets pretty expensive and so does the Tormek, even the Jet is about three hundred dollars US for the basic unit and so far I haven't found a Canadian supplier for it. Lee Valley has quite a collection of water stones, probably not the cheapest place to buy but the quality is high, you will have good suppliers up in Newcastle, a specialty shop I am sure and probably not all that cheap. The methods using sand paper are cheap and apparently quite efficient but both are hand grinding and will take some patience if you have to remove any amount of steel for removing any nicks. The high speed grinders not only spray sparks which pose a fire hazard particularly for the blind although of the fires I am aware of, none were caused by a blind person, the heat can easily destroy the temper and soften the tool steel. you need to quench frequently and that makes relocating the tool on the rest a bit more challenging. I can look for more information on the "scary" system, I know that Larry is familiar with it and of course we have Rae who is becoming expert in the research department, maybe there already is something up there on the Site on it I haven't been there for a while. Hope this helps. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a > dry grinderr thay run to fast? > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
A fine file. - Original Message - From: carl To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a dry grinderr thay run to fast? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Probably the very best way is with a pond of variously graded water stones and a couple of hones, fine oil stones and maybe a diamond hone. As you gain skill you may want one or mor of those bevel jigs to guide the blade while grinding and later honing a very fine edge. There is the Scary system (spelling uncertain) which uses sand paper stuck to very flat surfaces like plate glass, this is pretty cheap and can grind a well formed edge. Finally I am very impressed with what I have seen in the new generation of slow speed wet grinders. Tormek was probably the first and remains the most expensive but now Delta and Jet have similar units quite a bit cheaper and arguably as good and maybe better. These have a 2 inch wide grinding wheel which turns relatively slowly in a bath of water and which can be finished to grind quite aggressively or finished for a much finer grind and on the other side is a leather wheel which is used with honing compound for a really rather wonderful finish. There is quite a bit of learning with these too, a number of jigs and fixtures for holding various blades from chisels to plane blades or jointer knives and even specially shaped turning chisels. A collection of decent stones gets pretty expensive and so does the Tormek, even the Jet is about three hundred dollars US for the basic unit and so far I haven't found a Canadian supplier for it. Lee Valley has quite a collection of water stones, probably not the cheapest place to buy but the quality is high, you will have good suppliers up in Newcastle, a specialty shop I am sure and probably not all that cheap. The methods using sand paper are cheap and apparently quite efficient but both are hand grinding and will take some patience if you have to remove any amount of steel for removing any nicks. The high speed grinders not only spray sparks which pose a fire hazard particularly for the blind although of the fires I am aware of, none were caused by a blind person, the heat can easily destroy the temper and soften the tool steel. you need to quench frequently and that makes relocating the tool on the rest a bit more challenging. I can look for more information on the "scary" system, I know that Larry is familiar with it and of course we have Rae who is becoming expert in the research department, maybe there already is something up there on the Site on it I haven't been there for a while. Hope this helps. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a > dry grinderr thay run to fast? > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTEC
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
wil that work with gouges and how wud you matain the right angle for the bevel? - Original Message - From: rj To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools A fine file. - Original Message - From: carl To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools what is the best way to sharpen tools i don't think i'd feal safe with a dry grinderr thay run to fast? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Carl, look on the blindhandyman text page, there are some articles there about sharpening. Unless a tool is very badly damaged you don't need power. There are a variety of stones etc. available and guides to help you hold tool blades at correct angles. Then there is the ssystem where you put fine grade sandpaper on a sheet of glass and sharpen against that. Very interesting because glass is very flat and makes sure you get a flat surface to work against which is vital. Dry grinders are a poor idea because it is too easy to get the tool too hot and detemper it. Tom Fowle To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
I haven't used it and I don't own it and if you worry about sighting along this or that then you will never get anything because that is the language of the optically enabled. This too is one of the reasons I have not yet acquired those jigs. It is my feeling though that for all the fuss these things are really a lot more approximate than we would be lead to believe. The real trick is to keep the bevel constant so you don't get a convex bevel which would make the actual edge of attack way too great. Obviously, if a plane blade isn't very close to square to it's edge it will be more difficult to line up in the shoe but even a square blade needs alining in the plane which also, theoretically requires sighting along the shoe and there has never been a blind person do that ever in history. When I worked in Dawson Creek I once had this old Sudatenland German patient who came to canada just before the war, there were a number of them settled in the area. I was complaining about having chipped a plane blade. He told me to bring it in next time and he brought a hand crank grinding wheel which he clamped to the edge of my desk and promptly ground the chip out of the blade, touched up another one and a pair of chisels and then honed them perfect with an oil stone about two and a half inches by maybe 4. He gave me the stone and I use it still. My point here is that I well remember my father having a wheel like that many years ago and me trying to use it. You only have your left hand for guiding the blade against the wheel which, doubtless is a little easier if you can see but you are only estimating the angle even if you can see because you can't observe it from overhead and your right hand is busy cranking. I am betting that a reasonably sensitive touch would aline the edge close enough as doesn't matter. Setting the angles to precisely 35 or 40 or 25 on the gauge might be more problematic but with the set-up blocks as reference one would be within a couple of degrees dead reckoning. The masters of course do it without a jig by touch and claim absolute accuracy and maybe they are right. I am pretty sure most of us could do it too only we don't have the instruction or the reliable means of verification. Besides, we are all waiting for you to buy, test and inform us first. I am thinking I am going to buy me either a Tormek or a Jet. The Tormek rep offered to take a day and teach me how to use the Tormek down in Kitchener which might have been sales talk but I have thought it might be interesting to get a couple of hotel rooms and get a few of us together for a sharpening lesson and maybe over to Stratford for some Shakespeare some week-end this summer or fall. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools >I was just poking around on Lee Valley and am wondering what the Veritas > Sharpening system looks like. It is two parts, a honing guide and an > angle jig. So, does this just sit above, or in front of, a sharpening > stone? Does it look like a blind person could use it? It talks about > sighting along a registration line to keep a narrow blade properly > aligned. > > Has anyone used this system? > > thanks. > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (412) 268-9081 > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
HI, Has any one here herd of the sharp-all machine and does it really work and can a blind guy set all the different things on it??? - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools Carl, look on the blindhandyman text page, there are some articles there about sharpening. Unless a tool is very badly damaged you don't need power. There are a variety of stones etc. available and guides to help you hold tool blades at correct angles. Then there is the ssystem where you put fine grade sandpaper on a sheet of glass and sharpen against that. Very interesting because glass is very flat and makes sure you get a flat surface to work against which is vital. Dry grinders are a poor idea because it is too easy to get the tool too hot and detemper it. Tom Fowle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Hi, I have the Veritas Sharpening system and use it. I need sighted help to set the honing guide for a specific angle. Were I organized I'd brialle the angles for each setting and then could do it myself. I have sharpened at least a couple chistles by guessing at the angle. But, with a new chissle I would want to set it at a particular angle to save time sharpening. Once the angle is set and the blade mounted in the honing guide the rest is just "back and forth" until you can shave your arm. I like the feature that allows you to set a micro bevel by rotating a knob without removing the blade. The results I have had using the guide are far superior to that I have achieved freehand. This is also true for my brother who is sighted. Ralph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Thank you for this Ralph. Do you think you would be able to set the angle on a new chisel by resting it in the guide and feeling when the bevel is flat on your stone then setting the guide? Not having had one in my hands yet I have no idea if this is practical. The bevel on a plane blade is probably too thin but maybe a chisel. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "Ralph Supernaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > Hi, > > I have the Veritas Sharpening system and use it. I need sighted help to > set > the honing guide for a specific angle. Were I organized I'd brialle the > angles for each setting and then could do it myself. I have sharpened at > least a couple chistles by guessing at the angle. But, with a new chissle > I > would want to set it at a particular angle to save time sharpening. Once > the angle is set and the blade mounted in the honing guide the rest is > just > "back and forth" until you can shave your arm. > > I like the feature that allows you to set a micro bevel by rotating a knob > without removing the blade. > > The results I have had using the guide are far superior to that I have > achieved freehand. This is also true for my brother who is sighted. > > Ralph > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Ralph, thanks for the report, and for being the guinea pig. And Dale, my Shakespeare is a bit rusty, so maybe we could sharpen that and some chisels up at the same time. Sounds like a cool idea. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
The angle depends on the length of the blade protruding from the unit, and I believe that there is a scale included with the instructions. For example a one inch length, gives you a 25 degree! I haven't use it for a while, so I don't remember the scale! - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools Thank you for this Ralph. Do you think you would be able to set the angle on a new chisel by resting it in the guide and feeling when the bevel is flat on your stone then setting the guide? Not having had one in my hands yet I have no idea if this is practical. The bevel on a plane blade is probably too thin but maybe a chisel. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "Ralph Supernaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > Hi, > > I have the Veritas Sharpening system and use it. I need sighted help to > set > the honing guide for a specific angle. Were I organized I'd brialle the > angles for each setting and then could do it myself. I have sharpened at > least a couple chistles by guessing at the angle. But, with a new chissle > I > would want to set it at a particular angle to save time sharpening. Once > the angle is set and the blade mounted in the honing guide the rest is > just > "back and forth" until you can shave your arm. > > I like the feature that allows you to set a micro bevel by rotating a knob > without removing the blade. > > The results I have had using the guide are far superior to that I have > achieved freehand. This is also true for my brother who is sighted. > > Ralph > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 14-Apr-2007 21:36 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
Excellent posting here Larry. Don - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools Here is a list of articles dealing with sharpening that have been recorded on CDs by Woodworking for the Blind over the past year. Magazine CD 1 has an article on Sharpening Machines from Fine Woodworking 182, p. 38. Magazine CD 4 has Sharpen With Sandpaper from Fine Woodworking 184, p. 63. Magazine CD 12 has Keeping Tools Sharp from Fine Woodworking 189, p. 80. Magazine CD 7 has Bowl Gouge Sharpening from American Woodworker 123, p. 78. Magazine CD 9 has Slow Speed Grinders from American Woodworker 124, p. 62. Magazine CD 10 has Tune-up an Old Chisel from American Woodworker 125, p. 79. Magazine CD 14 has Reshaping the Skew Chisel from American Woodworker 127, p. 40 as well as Jet's Slow Speed Wet Sharpener from Woodcraft 13 dated January, 2007, p. 67 and Pinnacle Honing Guide from Woodcraft 14 dated March, 2007, p. 66. Magazine CD 7 has Sharpening Drill Bits from Woodsmith 160, p. 12. I cite the magazine name, issue number and page number to help in finding the article on the CD. The book Complete Manual of Woodworking issued on Book CDs 3 and 4 also has sections on sharpening which are fairly general in approach. Any member joining after the time a CD was issued can request back copies so that you have a complete library. Any blind woodworker not yet a member can join by contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps. -- Larry Martin Woodworking for the Blind --joining the world of blind wood workers [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools
The honing guide has a rectangular tongue that mounts to the front during setup. There is a tab that moves up and down the tongue. When the blade is placed in the honing guide the side of the blade is placed against a raised edge of the tongue. The end of the blade rests against the tab. The closer the tab is to the honing guide the greater the sharpening angle. This means that the tongue extends past the end of the blade being sharpened. Once the blade is secured in the honing guide the tongue with its attached tab is removed to expose the blade for sharpening. This process allows the blade to be positioned tactally. It does not allow you to set the end of the blade against the sharpening stone when mounting it in the honing guide. I have used angle setup blocks from Lee Valley to determine the angle of a blade bevel so I know what angle to use when sharpening. One of the benefits of the setup process is that the blade is straight so the sharpening does not result in a skewed edge. Ralph _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools Thank you for this Ralph. Do you think you would be able to set the angle on a new chisel by resting it in the guide and feeling when the bevel is flat on your stone then setting the guide? Not having had one in my hands yet I have no idea if this is practical. The bevel on a plane blade is probably too thin but maybe a chisel. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> net Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: "Ralph Supernaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rsupernaw%40clarks.net> net> To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] sharpening tools > Hi, > > I have the Veritas Sharpening system and use it. I need sighted help to > set > the honing guide for a specific angle. Were I organized I'd brialle the > angles for each setting and then could do it myself. I have sharpened at > least a couple chistles by guessing at the angle. But, with a new chissle > I > would want to set it at a particular angle to save time sharpening. Once > the angle is set and the blade mounted in the honing guide the rest is > just > "back and forth" until you can shave your arm. > > I like the feature that allows you to set a micro bevel by rotating a knob > without removing the blade. > > The results I have had using the guide are far superior to that I have > achieved freehand. This is also true for my brother who is sighted. > > Ralph > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://acbradio. <http://acbradio.org/handyman.html> org/handyman.html > or > ftp://ftp.acbradio. <ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/> org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio <http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday> .org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > http://www.gcast. <http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml> com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various > List Members At The Following address: > http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/> users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > http://www.mail- <http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/> archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > blindhandyman- <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pert
