Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or directory". I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi, > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the > graphical terminal with sudo. > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have > speech on the login prompt. > > -- > Best wishes, > Zahari > > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 > >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently >> use. >> Orca's terminal support sucks. >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
Hi, Speakup is a kernel module. Since you're using Ubuntu - it's probably already available, so you don't need to install it separately. Furthermore, it's no longer distributed as a separate package, but it's included in the Linux Kernel itself, so you've probably downloaded something very old. If you don't have /dev/softsynth (espeakup says it couldn't find it) it's probably that speakup module is not loaded. Load it with: sudo modprobe speakup_soft To have this done automatically on startup, do: sudo echo speakup_soft > /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf Speechd-up is an interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher. Espeakup is similar, but it uses the espeak library. If you want to use espeak - you can stick with espeakup. If you want to use other synthesizers - you can't use espeakup, but you have to use speech-dispatcher, i. e. speechd-up. Orca uses speech-dispatcher for it's speech output, for example. So, after you load the speakup kernel module, go to a graphical terminal and do: sudo espeakup If it says ""command not found", find where it is with: which espeakup and include the full path, e. g.: sudo /usr/local/bin/espeakup -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:29:35PM -0500 > I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. > Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or > directory". > I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". > I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running > the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. > > What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? > > On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Hi, > > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? > > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the > > graphical terminal with sudo. > > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have > > speech on the login prompt. > > > > -- > > Best wishes, > > Zahari > > > > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 > > > >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal > >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently > >> use. > >> Orca's terminal support sucks. > >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. > >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. > >> > >> ___ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
> sudo modprobe speakup_soft I got Modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_soft': Required key not available On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi, > Speakup is a kernel module. Since you're using Ubuntu - it's probably > already available, so you don't need to install it separately. > Furthermore, it's no longer distributed as a separate package, but it's > included in the Linux Kernel itself, so you've probably downloaded > something very old. > If you don't have /dev/softsynth (espeakup says it couldn't find it) > it's probably that speakup module is not loaded. Load it with: > sudo modprobe speakup_soft > To have this done automatically on startup, do: > sudo echo speakup_soft > /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf > > Speechd-up is an interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher. > Espeakup is similar, but it uses the espeak library. > If you want to use espeak - you can stick with espeakup. If you want to > use other synthesizers - you can't use espeakup, but you have to use > speech-dispatcher, i. e. speechd-up. > Orca uses speech-dispatcher for it's speech output, for example. > > So, after you load the speakup kernel module, go to a graphical terminal and > do: > sudo espeakup > > If it says ""command not found", find where it is with: > which espeakup > and include the full path, e. g.: > sudo /usr/local/bin/espeakup > > -- > Best wishes, > Zahari > > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:29:35PM -0500 > >> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. >> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or >> directory". >> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". >> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running >> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. >> >> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? >> >> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? >> > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from >> > the >> > graphical terminal with sudo. >> > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have >> > speech on the login prompt. >> > >> > -- >> > Best wishes, >> > Zahari >> > >> > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 >> > >> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal >> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently >> >> use. >> >> Orca's terminal support sucks. >> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. >> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Blinux-list mailing list >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >> > ___ >> > Blinux-list mailing list >> > Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
Howdy, speakup is an kernel module. installing stuff from tarballs is not the best idea in case of kernel modules i think. you need to care about updating it by yourself. that sayd. you cannot run speakup. it needs to be loaded into the kernel "sudo modprobe speakup speakup_soft" after doing that you might be able to install and run "espeakup" to use espeak as speech synth for speakup. by the way, what distribution are you using? maybe i m to "blind ;)" to find that very useful information. if speakup is available as package in your distribution you should prefer that way instead of using a tarball. if you are using a more current system like Arch or Antergos you will be able to install "fenrir-git" via AUR. that is an basic userspace screenreader without need of kernel module stuff. cheers chrys Am 31.07.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or directory". I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi, Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the graphical terminal with sudo. Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have speech on the login prompt. -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently use. Orca's terminal support sucks. I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
I got the same error: could not insert 'speakup': key not available. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS. On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > speakup is an kernel module. > installing stuff from tarballs is not the best idea in case of kernel > modules i think. > you need to care about updating it by yourself. that sayd. > you cannot run speakup. it needs to be loaded into the kernel > "sudo modprobe speakup speakup_soft" > after doing that you might be able to install and run "espeakup" to use > espeak as speech synth for speakup. > by the way, what distribution are you using? maybe i m to "blind ;)" to > find that very useful information. > if speakup is available as package in your distribution you should > prefer that way instead of using a tarball. > > if you are using a more current system like Arch or Antergos you will be > able to install "fenrir-git" via AUR. that is an basic userspace > screenreader without need of kernel module stuff. > > cheers chrys > > Am 31.07.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. >> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or >> directory". >> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". >> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running >> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. >> >> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? >> >> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? >>> If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from >>> the >>> graphical terminal with sudo. >>> Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have >>> speech on the login prompt. >>> >>> -- >>> Best wishes, >>> Zahari >>> >>>Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>> Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 >>> >>>> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal >>>> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently >>>> use. >>>> Orca's terminal support sucks. >>>> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. >>>> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
Howdy, seems that speakup is not installed on your system. in case of success it should not give any output to you. speakup lives in the "staging" area of the kernel. that means it is considered to be unstable/ experimental. the result of this is that not every linux distribution ships the speakup module by default. Maybe ubuntu is one of that distributions. i just found an old blog entry of storm that let me think that speakup is not shipped with the ubuntu kernel (information without warranty, since i cannot look at.) https://stormdragon.tk/installing-speakup-in-ubuntu/ sadly i m not using ubuntu so i cannot give any assistance in "how to install it without need to compile your own kernel" then. maybe some ubuntu user is here that can help you more experienced. maybe there is a PPA or something that provides speakup. maybe you wanna try vinux (based on ubuntu) or sonar (based on manjaro/ antergos/ arch). those distros are made for blind and visual impaired people and have that stuff preinstalled for sure. cheers chrys Am 01.08.2017 um 00:10 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I got the same error: could not insert 'speakup': key not available. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS. On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Howdy, speakup is an kernel module. installing stuff from tarballs is not the best idea in case of kernel modules i think. you need to care about updating it by yourself. that sayd. you cannot run speakup. it needs to be loaded into the kernel "sudo modprobe speakup speakup_soft" after doing that you might be able to install and run "espeakup" to use espeak as speech synth for speakup. by the way, what distribution are you using? maybe i m to "blind ;)" to find that very useful information. if speakup is available as package in your distribution you should prefer that way instead of using a tarball. if you are using a more current system like Arch or Antergos you will be able to install "fenrir-git" via AUR. that is an basic userspace screenreader without need of kernel module stuff. cheers chrys Am 31.07.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or directory". I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi, Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the graphical terminal with sudo. Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have speech on the login prompt. -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently use. Orca's terminal support sucks. I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
did you do modprobe speakup-soft.synth yet? That should not have returned an error if espeakup was installed with all dependencies. On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:29:35 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions? I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or directory". I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi, Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from the graphical terminal with sudo. Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have speech on the login prompt. -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently use. Orca's terminal support sucks. I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel. At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su then modprobe speakup_soft start=1 You should just get back to a prompt. Then from your console, run espeakup If it works, you can automate all of this. Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio. HTH, Willem On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently use. Orca's terminal support sucks. I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Latest brailleblaster and/or braille printer/embosser drivers?
Good day, Willem here. Does any one know how well the latest version of braille blaster work under Linux? What is the basics of braille printing under Linux? Can braille printing be done using cups? TIA, Willem -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Latest brailleblaster and/or braille printer/embosser drivers?
Linux for blind general discussion, on mar. 01 août 2017 08:06:54 +0200, wrote: > Can braille printing be done using cups? Simply by setting it as a printer, using the generic braille driver (or the Index braille driver when it is an Index embosser), and setting parameters. You can then just lp text files. Also see /usr/share/doc/cups-filters/README*, there is a "braille embossing section" in there. Samuel ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
Hi, What computer do you use? Searching for the error on the Internet brings plenty of search results about problems with loading kernel modules in recent kernels on computers with UEFI with Secure Boot enabled. On one hand, that's strange, because speakup is included in the kernel and I pritty much doubt that you were able to compile and install any external code, and the build-in one should be signed already. Still, if you have UEFI instead of BIOS and Secure Boot enabled - you can try to disable it and see what happens. The bad news is that you'll need a sighted help for this. Look at this link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/762254/why-do-i-get-required-key-not-available-when-install-3rd-party-kernel-modules If you have problems entering UEFI and disabling Secure Boot - search for instructions for your PC/laptop/motherboard model. At the above page, it's stated that you can enter UEFI from GRUB as well, but I haven't tried it so I can't confirm. If somehow you have managed to change your build-in speakup, you may try reinstalling the kernel, and speakup along with that: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 04:20:45PM -0500 > > sudo modprobe speakup_soft > > I got > Modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_soft': Required key not available > > > On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Hi, > > Speakup is a kernel module. Since you're using Ubuntu - it's probably > > already available, so you don't need to install it separately. > > Furthermore, it's no longer distributed as a separate package, but it's > > included in the Linux Kernel itself, so you've probably downloaded > > something very old. > > If you don't have /dev/softsynth (espeakup says it couldn't find it) > > it's probably that speakup module is not loaded. Load it with: > > sudo modprobe speakup_soft > > To have this done automatically on startup, do: > > sudo echo speakup_soft > /etc/modules-load.d/speakup.conf > > > > Speechd-up is an interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher. > > Espeakup is similar, but it uses the espeak library. > > If you want to use espeak - you can stick with espeakup. If you want to > > use other synthesizers - you can't use espeakup, but you have to use > > speech-dispatcher, i. e. speechd-up. > > Orca uses speech-dispatcher for it's speech output, for example. > > > > So, after you load the speakup kernel module, go to a graphical terminal and > > do: > > sudo espeakup > > > > If it says ""command not found", find where it is with: > > which espeakup > > and include the full path, e. g.: > > sudo /usr/local/bin/espeakup > > > > -- > > Best wishes, > > Zahari > > > > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:29:35PM -0500 > > > >> I'm trying to use speakup with espeakup. > >> Espeakup says: "Unable to open the soft synth device: no such file or > >> directory". > >> I thought I'd installed speakup, but typing it gives "command not found". > >> I just downloaded a speakup tarball (that took some digging). Running > >> the makefile produces two errors that I don't understand. > >> > >> What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? > >> > >> On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion > >> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? > >> > If you use espeakup or speechd-up, kill all instances and start it from > >> > the > >> > graphical terminal with sudo. > >> > Then, switch to some text console and log in - you probably won't have > >> > speech on the login prompt. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Best wishes, > >> > Zahari > >> > > >> > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> > Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 > >> > > >> >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal > >> >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently > >> >> use. > >> >> Orca's terminal support sucks. > >> >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. > >> >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. > >> >> > >> >>
Plugin for Orca
Hi! I am looking for problem statements to make Orca a better screen reader on Linux. Development is usually a better choice, when it comes to Linux, but the developer community mainly lacks accessibilities here. I will be glad to receive feedbacks from you all about Orca and problems you face which you think needs to work upon and improved. Thanks. Regards, Hritik Gupta ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
RE: Plugin for Orca
You should probably also be asking your question on the ORCA mailing list: orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of Congress Washington, DC 20542 202-707-0535 http://www.loc.gov/nls/ The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress, NLS. -Original Message- From: blinux-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:29 AM To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Plugin for Orca Hi! I am looking for problem statements to make Orca a better screen reader on Linux. Development is usually a better choice, when it comes to Linux, but the developer community mainly lacks accessibilities here. I will be glad to receive feedbacks from you all about Orca and problems you face which you think needs to work upon and improved. Thanks. Regards, Hritik Gupta ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Plugin for Orca
Howdy, the suject suggest me that you are intrested in "Plugins for Orca". If that is the case, i create a simple plugin system for orca what is integrated via "orca-customization.py" See here: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=simple_orca_plugin_system&s[]=sops I also try to improve the a11y stuff in linux. if you plan to develop or fix some bugs, maybe we can join our forces to do so. so let me know if you are intrested in. cheers chrys Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion : Hi! I am looking for problem statements to make Orca a better screen reader on Linux. Development is usually a better choice, when it comes to Linux, but the developer community mainly lacks accessibilities here. I will be glad to receive feedbacks from you all about Orca and problems you face which you think needs to work upon and improved. Thanks. Regards, Hritik Gupta ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's the one who unintentionally deleted Windows... Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil? sudo mokutil --disable-validation It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt. On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel. > At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su > then modprobe speakup_soft start=1 > You should just get back to a prompt. > Then from your console, run espeakup > If it works, you can automate all of this. > Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of > Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio. > HTH, Willem > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently >> use. >> Orca's terminal support sucks. >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> > > -- > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. > The full disclaimer details can be found at > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
Howdy, If speakup is making too much trouble you can try yasr or fenrir what you can start without need to change something at the bios or kernel. Do you have GUI access via orca to launch/install stuff? Yasr: http://yasr.sourceforge.net/ Fenrir https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader Brltty (good for braille ) http://www.brltty.com/ Just to have some alternatives. Cheers Chrys Am Dienstag 1. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for > certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The > sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's > the one who unintentionally deleted Windows... > > Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil? > sudo mokutil --disable-validation > It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't > know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt. > > On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel. > > At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su > > then modprobe speakup_soft start=1 > > You should just get back to a prompt. > > Then from your console, run espeakup > > If it works, you can automate all of this. > > Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of > > Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio. > > HTH, Willem > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal > >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently > >> use. > >> Orca's terminal support sucks. > >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. > >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. > >> > >> ___ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. > > The full disclaimer details can be found at > > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ may be useable though it's more than a screen reader. On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 16:43:21 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions? Howdy, If speakup is making too much trouble you can try yasr or fenrir what you can start without need to change something at the bios or kernel. Do you have GUI access via orca to launch/install stuff? Yasr: http://yasr.sourceforge.net/ Fenrir https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader Brltty (good for braille ) http://www.brltty.com/ Just to have some alternatives. Cheers Chrys Am Dienstag 1. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's the one who unintentionally deleted Windows... Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil? sudo mokutil --disable-validation It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt. On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel. At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su then modprobe speakup_soft start=1 You should just get back to a prompt. Then from your console, run espeakup If it works, you can automate all of this. Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio. HTH, Willem On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently use. Orca's terminal support sucks. I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
Hi, You still get the same error after you did what - reinstalling the kernel? To check the state of Secure Boot, try: sudo mokutil --sb-state I don't have UEFI here, so I don't know if it'll ask you for a password just for checking the state, but I guess not. P. S. Although mokutil doesn't have a --help option, it has a manual page: man mokutil -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:57:36PM -0500 > I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for > certain that I'm still stuck with that acursed secure boot? The > sighted person who came over last said he turned it off. But then he's > the one who unintentionally deleted Windows... > > Has anyone here had luck turning off secure boot with mokutil? > sudo mokutil --disable-validation > It asks you to create a password that you enter on reboot. I don't > know if I'll be able to hear the password prompt. > > On 8/1/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel. > > At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su > > then modprobe speakup_soft start=1 > > You should just get back to a prompt. > > Then from your console, run espeakup > > If it works, you can automate all of this. > > Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of > > Ubuntu, you need to add the user to group audio. > > HTH, Willem > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > >> I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal > >> applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently > >> use. > >> Orca's terminal support sucks. > >> I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. > >> Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. > >> > >> ___ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. > > The full disclaimer details can be found at > > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: bats rescue disk
This is Tony Baechler. Please write off list about the BATS live / rescue CD. I know wireless networking is a problem and I really need help fixing it. I don't have wireless here. I installed all of the non-free firmware I knew about but I guess I missed something. I had surgery and will shortly be starting the evaluation for a kidney transplant (stage 4 kidney failure) so I have very little time, but I'm interested in feedback. I'm in the process of turning it over to someone else, but I still have the chroot here. Please email bats at batsupport dot com. Thanks! Also, due to the above lack of time, I'm leaving the blinux list. If you need me, write to the above address. If you want to work on it, take it over or test it, please let me know. On 6/19/2017 8:26 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: The version I downloaded was up at the end of May 2017. I found most of it worked well except for networking. I got link not ready and after booting was not able to set up networking and go onto the internet. Why this surprised me is because the wifi adapter I use is a realtech 8127b wireless adapter and linux isn't supposed to have any problems with that hardware. The wifi networks here were found using wicd-cli and also using wicd-curses but I couldn't configure them. This disk has wcalc on it along with nethack so is a worthy rescue disk in those respects. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- James 5:16 Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous man availeth much in its working. (ASV) ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Fenrir doesn't talk.
I have all the "dependencys" installed. However, it complains that python3-speechd and python3-espeak are missing. They aren't. Neither is speech dispatcher. Fenrir starts but doesn't talk. What should I try? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Howdy, Thanks for the typo :) i fixed it. What distro are you using? fenrir needs a very current system python>=3.3, python3-evdev >=0.6.4, current version of sox what contains opus support for opus soundIcons (but for soundicons you also can use WAV or the gstreamer backend). Are you using master or stable? are you using pulseaudo or plain alsa? (alsa should work out of the box, pulse would need some configuration to stream the "root" soundoutput to your user) can you post the output of check-dependencies? fenrir is written in python3 so you may need to take care if you install the python2 or python3 version of an module. what happens if you just type in the bash: $python3 (python opens) import speechd maybe you can produce a debug out for me. (with master) sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log sudo /path/to/fenrir/fenrir -d (stop fenrir) send me /var/log/fenrir.log there is also some user documentation found here: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual&s[]=fenrir Cheers Chrys Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion : I have all the "dependencys" installed. However, it complains that python3-speechd and python3-espeak are missing. They aren't. Neither is speech dispatcher. Fenrir starts but doesn't talk. What should I try? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Just wondering if Fenrir works with any other better speech, other than espeak? Also, just tried manualling running, but got this following announcement: sudo systemctl start fenrir Job for fenrir.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status fenrir.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. I got that both with and without sudo. Thanks in advance from a Vinux 5.1 Ubunto 1604 system Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Howdy, and what do you get for "Job for fenrir.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status fenrir.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. " systemctl status fenrir.service and journalctl -xe i would need some details to help :). you can also run fenrir in debug mode using sudo fenrir -d you can send me the debug (/var/log/fenrir.log) off list then to ch...@linux-a11y.org i want help but need some more information :). //Just wondering if Fenrir works with any other better speech what is a better speech? fenrir (master) supports 3 different TTS backends - espeak (directly, via python-espeak bindings) - speech-dispatcher (with configurable speech module pico, espeak, ibmtts, festival and anything else that is supported by speechd) - generic speech driver (where you can use an configurable shell command to produce speech) Hardware syth support for dectalk/ double talk are planned but i dont have that devices, so it will take some time here. cheers chrys Am 04.08.2017 um 15:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Just wondering if Fenrir works with any other better speech, other than espeak? Also, just tried manualling running, but got this following announcement: sudo systemctl start fenrir Job for fenrir.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status fenrir.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. I got that both with and without sudo. Thanks in advance from a Vinux 5.1 Ubunto 1604 system Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
OK, thanks, running your debug command, says /usr/bin/fenrir not found, so maybe I missed something along the way. And yes, if it supports I B M T T S, and others, thats great. Thanks Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Howdy, //OK, thanks, running your debug command, says /usr/bin/fenrir not found did you installed it or do you run the fenrir binary from the git tree? if there is no /usr/bin/fenrir that means that fenrir is not installed so it could not started via systemd. you will first be able to start fenrir after installing it. thats ok, you dont need to install it to try it out but as long as you start it from the source tree you need to start sudo src/fenrir/fenrir -d inside of the git directory yea IBMTTS is supported via speech-dispatcher backend. that is what my girlfrind is using here :). Am 04.08.2017 um 16:43 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: OK, thanks, running your debug command, says /usr/bin/fenrir not found, so maybe I missed something along the way. And yes, if it supports I B M T T S, and others, thats great. Thanks Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
fenrir setup?
Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier today. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: fenrir setup?
I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle those sounds. Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case. It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir did not use that synthesizer as its default even though speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring. I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: fenrir setup? Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier today. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Actually, when I run check-dependencys.py with python3 instead of python, everything passes but pyenchant. Pyenchant is already installed in python2.7 but I have no idea how to install it so that it works with python3. I don't understand the difference between python, python2.7, python3... On 8/4/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > Thanks for the typo :) i fixed it. > What distro are you using? fenrir needs a very current system > python>=3.3, python3-evdev >=0.6.4, current version of sox what > contains opus support for opus soundIcons (but for soundicons you also > can use WAV or the gstreamer backend). > Are you using master or stable? are you using pulseaudo or plain alsa? > (alsa should work out of the box, pulse would need some configuration > to stream the "root" soundoutput to your user) > can you post the output of check-dependencies? > fenrir is written in python3 so you may need to take care if you > install the python2 or python3 version of an module. > > what happens if you just type in the bash: > $python3 > (python opens) >>>> import speechd > > maybe you can produce a debug out for me. (with master) > sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log > sudo /path/to/fenrir/fenrir -d > (stop fenrir) > send me /var/log/fenrir.log > > there is also some user documentation found here: > https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual&s[]=fenrir > > Cheers Chrys > > > Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion : > >> I have all the "dependencys" installed. However, it complains that >> python3-speechd and python3-espeak are missing. They aren't. Neither >> is speech dispatcher. Fenrir starts but doesn't talk. What should I >> try? >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: fenrir setup?
Howdy, > insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and > even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different > sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle > those sounds. I cannot see this. You can bind whatever key you want as fenrir key. It sound more like an wrong setup i bet to an old python-evdev version. > It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. This is fixed fore some weeks now since i bring fenrir to an event based and multiprocess structure. What surprised me > though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir > did not use that synthesizer as its default even though Fenrir does use speech-dispacher as default but did not use the defaults of speech-dispacher. It has its own settings to tell speech-dispacher what TTS needs to be used. But when running pulse and speech-dispacher it needs some special setup to configure speech-dispacher for root (as what fenrir is running )pulse to forewart the sound to the user. Cheers Chrys Hm speechd-el, sure i dont stop someone to use a software that got about 10 commits in seven years or try to create a good new maintained one. Sure it has bugs but without knowledge of them i cannot fix it. Or we come to the conclusion we dont need another screenreader and i will better spent my sparetime at the bar ;). Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried > insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and > even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different > sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle > those sounds. > Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until > checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case. > It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me > though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir > did not use that synthesizer as its default even though > speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks > nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades > fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But > then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring. > I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to > read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default > speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably > helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too. > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35 > > From: Linux for blind general discussion > > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > > Subject: fenrir setup? > > > > Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur > > package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier > > today. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: fenrir setup?
Howdy, That should be scriptable yes. Cheers Chrys Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur > package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier > today. > > > > -- > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Howd, Ah i will make python 3 the default for the script thanks for reporting. The python language did some incompatible breaks between version 2 and 3 thats why there are mostly for everything are bindings for python 2 and python3 in seperated way. Cheers Chrys Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Actually, when I run check-dependencys.py with python3 instead of > python, everything passes but pyenchant. > Pyenchant is already installed in python2.7 but I have no idea how to > install it so that it works with python3. > I don't understand the difference between python, python2.7, python3... > > On 8/4/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > Thanks for the typo :) i fixed it. > > What distro are you using? fenrir needs a very current system > > python>=3.3, python3-evdev >=0.6.4, current version of sox what > > contains opus support for opus soundIcons (but for soundicons you also > > can use WAV or the gstreamer backend). > > Are you using master or stable? are you using pulseaudo or plain alsa? > > (alsa should work out of the box, pulse would need some configuration > > to stream the "root" soundoutput to your user) > > can you post the output of check-dependencies? > > fenrir is written in python3 so you may need to take care if you > > install the python2 or python3 version of an module. > > > > what happens if you just type in the bash: > > $python3 > > (python opens) > >>>> import speechd > > > > maybe you can produce a debug out for me. (with master) > > sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log > > sudo /path/to/fenrir/fenrir -d > > (stop fenrir) > > send me /var/log/fenrir.log > > > > there is also some user documentation found here: > > https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual&s[]=fenrir > > > > Cheers Chrys > > > > > > Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion : > > > >> I have all the "dependencys" installed. However, it complains that > >> python3-speechd and python3-espeak are missing. They aren't. Neither > >> is speech dispatcher. Fenrir starts but doesn't talk. What should I > >> try? > >> > >> ___ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: fenrir setup?
I got no question when running fenrir-conf about which key to bind to the fenrir key. I'll do some more reading and figure what to put in the desktop.conf file to get that working. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:38:31 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: fenrir setup? Howdy, insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle those sounds. I cannot see this. You can bind whatever key you want as fenrir key. It sound more like an wrong setup i bet to an old python-evdev version. It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. This is fixed fore some weeks now since i bring fenrir to an event based and multiprocess structure. What surprised me though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir did not use that synthesizer as its default even though Fenrir does use speech-dispacher as default but did not use the defaults of speech-dispacher. It has its own settings to tell speech-dispacher what TTS needs to be used. But when running pulse and speech-dispacher it needs some special setup to configure speech-dispacher for root (as what fenrir is running )pulse to forewart the sound to the user. Cheers Chrys Hm speechd-el, sure i dont stop someone to use a software that got about 10 commits in seven years or try to create a good new maintained one. Sure it has bugs but without knowledge of them i cannot fix it. Or we come to the conclusion we dont need another screenreader and i will better spent my sparetime at the bar ;). Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle those sounds. Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case. It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir did not use that synthesizer as its default even though speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring. I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: fenrir setup? Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier today. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
How can I make python3 the default script now? I have all the dependencies fixed. When I run without installing it freezes the whole machine, requiring a restart. Could it be trying to use python instead of python3? On 8/4/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howd, > > Ah i will make python 3 the default for the script thanks for reporting. > The python language did some incompatible breaks between version 2 and 3 > thats why there are mostly for everything are bindings for python 2 and > python3 in seperated way. > > Cheers Chrys > > Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> Actually, when I run check-dependencys.py with python3 instead of >> python, everything passes but pyenchant. >> Pyenchant is already installed in python2.7 but I have no idea how to >> install it so that it works with python3. >> I don't understand the difference between python, python2.7, python3... >> >> On 8/4/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >> > Howdy, >> > >> > Thanks for the typo :) i fixed it. >> > What distro are you using? fenrir needs a very current system >> > python>=3.3, python3-evdev >=0.6.4, current version of sox what >> > contains opus support for opus soundIcons (but for soundicons you also >> > can use WAV or the gstreamer backend). >> > Are you using master or stable? are you using pulseaudo or plain alsa? >> > (alsa should work out of the box, pulse would need some configuration >> > to stream the "root" soundoutput to your user) >> > can you post the output of check-dependencies? >> > fenrir is written in python3 so you may need to take care if you >> > install the python2 or python3 version of an module. >> > >> > what happens if you just type in the bash: >> > $python3 >> > (python opens) >> >>>> import speechd >> > >> > maybe you can produce a debug out for me. (with master) >> > sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log >> > sudo /path/to/fenrir/fenrir -d >> > (stop fenrir) >> > send me /var/log/fenrir.log >> > >> > there is also some user documentation found here: >> > https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual&s[]=fenrir >> > >> > Cheers Chrys >> > >> > >> > Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion : >> > >> >> I have all the "dependencys" installed. However, it complains that >> >> python3-speechd and python3-espeak are missing. They aren't. Neither >> >> is speech dispatcher. Fenrir starts but doesn't talk. What should I >> >> try? >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Blinux-list mailing list >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Blinux-list mailing list >> > Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?
If you're still debugging, you might want to try isolating where y our problem is. First step, imo, is to ascertain that espeak is installed and working as expected. >From a terminal window/console type: espeak hello If you heard it say the word "Hello," you're ready for the next step. I recommend you check whether espeakup is running. This is the part of the connection between speakup and espeak. Try the command: pidof espeakup This should return a number which is the process ID of the currently running espeakup. If you do not get that, your espeakup is either not installed or not running. Lastly, check whether speakup and the speakup_soft modules are loaded. Try typing: lsmod |grep speakup This should return two lines of output, one with speakup_soft and the other with speakup itself. hth Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > If you run ubuntu, speakup should already be in your kernel. > At your terminal in the GUI, do sudo su > then modprobe speakup_soft start=1 > You should just get back to a prompt. > Then from your console, run espeakup > If it works, you can automate all of this. > Also make sure you have sound in the console. with some versions of Ubuntu, > you need to add the user to group audio. > HTH, Willem > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal > > applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently > > use. > > Orca's terminal support sucks. > > I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. > > Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks. > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > -- > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full > disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
arch fenrir-git package
configuration files inconsistency exists between /etc/fenrir/keyboard/test.conf and /etc/fenrir/keyboard/desktop.conf. The inconsistency has to do with line endings in each file. The test.conf file has something like dos line endings in it and desktop.conf file has unix line endings in it. Which is correct? -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Sound and speech not working in emacspeak
This started after I'd installed all the dependencies for fenrir (still not working). It says that the process speaker fails to run when I run emacs --debug-init. What sound-related package did I likely break? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Fenrir errors
I've attached the errors I get when I try to run Fenrir without installing it.
All dependencies are installed and I hear no sound or speech. Does
this file suggest why?
play FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `opus'
Process Process-4:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/multiprocessing/process.py", line 249, in _bootstrap
self.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/multiprocessing/process.py", line 93, in run
self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs)
File "/home/amanda/Downloads/fenrir/src/fenrir/core/eventManager.py", line
140, in simpleEventWorkerThread
Data = function(self._mainLoopRunning, args)
File "/home/amanda/Downloads/fenrir/src/fenrir/inputDriver/evdevDriver.py",
line 87, in inputWatchdog
r, w, x = select(deviceFd, [], [], 2)
KeyboardInterrupt
Process Process-5:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/multiprocessing/process.py", line 249, in _bootstrap
self.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/multiprocessing/process.py", line 93, in run
self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs)
File "/home/amanda/Downloads/fenrir/src/fenrir/core/eventManager.py", line
127, in customEventWorkerThread
function(self._mainLoopRunning, eventQueue)
File "/home/amanda/Downloads/fenrir/src/fenrir/screenDriver/vcsaDriver.py",
line 120, in updateWatchdog
vcsaDevices = glob.glob('/dev/vcsa*')
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/glob.py", line 20, in glob
return list(iglob(pathname, recursive=recursive))
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/glob.py", line 71, in _iglob
for name in glob_in_dir(dirname, basename):
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/glob.py", line 85, in glob1
names = os.listdir(dirname)
KeyboardInterrupt
Process Process-3:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/multiprocessing/process.py", line 249, in _bootstrap
self.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/multiprocessing/process.py", line 93, in run
self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs)
File "/home/amanda/Downloads/fenrir/src/fenrir/core/eventManager.py", line
127, in customEventWorkerThread
function(self._mainLoopRunning, eventQueue)
File "/home/amanda/Downloads/fenrir/src/fenrir/inputDriver/evdevDriver.py",
line 65, in plugInputDeviceWatchdogUdev
devices = monitor.poll(2)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pyudev/monitor.py", line 340, in poll
rlist, _, _ = select.select([self], [], [], timeout)
KeyboardInterrupt
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Re: Fenrir errors
Howdy, I stay currently at my parents (til thirsday) i will take a look at / fix it on thursday. Cheers Chrys Am Dienstag 8. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > I've attached the errors I get when I try to run Fenrir without installing it. > All dependencies are installed and I hear no sound or speech. Does > this file suggest why? > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
linux and webvisum
I have a webvisum account and need to solve a couple captions on a couple different sites. What version of firefox will I have to downgrade to in order for webvisum to install? Finally when I used webvisum last time it was on windows and it appears procedure for using it on linux is different. Has anyone done this that could walk me through it? -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: linux and webvisum
Hi, On my computer it works with Firefox 52. Regards, Raphaël On 08/08/2017 01:37 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I have a webvisum account and need to solve a couple captions on a couple different sites. What version of firefox will I have to downgrade to in order for webvisum to install? Finally when I used webvisum last time it was on windows and it appears procedure for using it on linux is different. Has anyone done this that could walk me through it? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: linux and webvisum
Webvisum must have been updated if that's the case. That is good news. On Tue, 8 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:21:41 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: linux and webvisum Hi, On my computer it works with Firefox 52. Regards, Rapha?l On 08/08/2017 01:37 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I have a webvisum account and need to solve a couple captions on a couple different sites. What version of firefox will I have to downgrade to in order for webvisum to install? Finally when I used webvisum last time it was on windows and it appears procedure for using it on linux is different. Has anyone done this that could walk me through it? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: arch fenrir-git package
Howdy, thanks for reporting. I removed /etc/fenrir/keyboard/test.conf since it was just used for my development tests. //Which is correct? the fenrir parser can read all kinds of line endings. so its not butyfull but it does not result in errors :) cheers chrys Am 05.08.2017 um 04:39 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: configuration files inconsistency exists between /etc/fenrir/keyboard/test.conf and /etc/fenrir/keyboard/desktop.conf. The inconsistency has to do with line endings in each file. The test.conf file has something like dos line endings in it and desktop.conf file has unix line endings in it. Which is correct? -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir errors
Howdy, the first issue i see in your output is that the provided sox version does not support opus. play FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `opus' so you have 2 possible solutions here: 1. use the gstreamer sound driver 1.1 open config/settings.conf 1.2 search for section [sound] 1.3 search for:driver=genericDriver 1.4 change it to driver=gstreamerDriver this requires gstreamer installed 2. use the default-wav soundicon theme 2.1 open config/settings.conf 2.2 search for section [sound] 2.3 search for:theme=default 2.4 change it to theme=default-wav 3. install a more current "sox" version. i dont see any other problems on that quick output. so byside this i assume it works but pulseaudio is not configured correct (see below): To create an complete debug output do the following: sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log cd /path/to/git/src/fenrir sudo ./fenrir -d ctrl + c send me the file /var/log/fenrir.log per mail to chrys at linux-a11y dot de if you don't hear sound or speech: you are using pulseaudio: then you have 2 possible solutions 1. run pulse in system wide mode (not recommentet) 1.1 https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/SystemWide/ 2. stream "root" sound to user (recommentet): 2.1 run "tools/configure_pulse.sh" 2.2 run "sudo tools/configure_pulse.sh" in any case if you running speech-dispatcher with pulse: you need to run "sudo spd-conf" and select pulse as output module. restart then it works if you are using also no configuration should needed since alsa does not sepearte different users like pulse does. Am 08.08.2017 um 01:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I've attached the errors I get when I try to run Fenrir without installing it. All dependencies are installed and I hear no sound or speech. Does this file suggest why? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir doesn't talk.
Howdy, i recognice that python3 is already the default for the dependencie check. did u start fenrir as root? if you have still trouble please send me an debug file sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log sudo /path/to/src/fenrir/fenrir -d (stop fenrir) send me /var/log/fenrir.log to chrys at linux-a11y dot org Am 04.08.2017 um 23:43 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: How can I make python3 the default script now? I have all the dependencies fixed. When I run without installing it freezes the whole machine, requiring a restart. Could it be trying to use python instead of python3? On 8/4/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Howd, Ah i will make python 3 the default for the script thanks for reporting. The python language did some incompatible breaks between version 2 and 3 thats why there are mostly for everything are bindings for python 2 and python3 in seperated way. Cheers Chrys Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Actually, when I run check-dependencys.py with python3 instead of python, everything passes but pyenchant. Pyenchant is already installed in python2.7 but I have no idea how to install it so that it works with python3. I don't understand the difference between python, python2.7, python3... On 8/4/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Howdy, Thanks for the typo :) i fixed it. What distro are you using? fenrir needs a very current system python>=3.3, python3-evdev >=0.6.4, current version of sox what contains opus support for opus soundIcons (but for soundicons you also can use WAV or the gstreamer backend). Are you using master or stable? are you using pulseaudo or plain alsa? (alsa should work out of the box, pulse would need some configuration to stream the "root" soundoutput to your user) can you post the output of check-dependencies? fenrir is written in python3 so you may need to take care if you install the python2 or python3 version of an module. what happens if you just type in the bash: $python3 (python opens) import speechd maybe you can produce a debug out for me. (with master) sudo rm /var/log/fenrir.log sudo /path/to/fenrir/fenrir -d (stop fenrir) send me /var/log/fenrir.log there is also some user documentation found here: https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual&s[]=fenrir Cheers Chrys Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion : I have all the "dependencys" installed. However, it complains that python3-speechd and python3-espeak are missing. They aren't. Neither is speech dispatcher. Fenrir starts but doesn't talk. What should I try? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: fenrir setup?
howdy the fenrir-conf is not ready for master yet. its still on version 1.06 state. its a very basic script to create a settings.conf. i plan a more enhanced version in fenrir 2.0 (with an nice menu and so on) for master you need to change the config/settings/settings.conf with an editor. you can use any key as fenrir key as defaults are Keypad 0, insert, and super (or meta, windows key) fenrirKeys=KEY_KP0,KEY_META,KEY_INSERT you can use multible keys seperated by comma. the names of the keys are the same that are used in evdev (linux input event device subsystem) you can find an unstructured list of possible keys in fenrirs git /config/keyboard/Readme.md https://raw.githubusercontent.com/chrys87/fenrir/master/config/keyboard/Readme.md i hope this helps cheers chrys Am 04.08.2017 um 23:19 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I got no question when running fenrir-conf about which key to bind to the fenrir key. I'll do some more reading and figure what to put in the desktop.conf file to get that working. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:38:31 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: fenrir setup? Howdy, insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle those sounds. I cannot see this. You can bind whatever key you want as fenrir key. It sound more like an wrong setup i bet to an old python-evdev version. It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. This is fixed fore some weeks now since i bring fenrir to an event based and multiprocess structure. What surprised me though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir did not use that synthesizer as its default even though Fenrir does use speech-dispacher as default but did not use the defaults of speech-dispacher. It has its own settings to tell speech-dispacher what TTS needs to be used. But when running pulse and speech-dispacher it needs some special setup to configure speech-dispacher for root (as what fenrir is running )pulse to forewart the sound to the user. Cheers Chrys Hm speechd-el, sure i dont stop someone to use a software that got about 10 commits in seven years or try to create a good new maintained one. Sure it has bugs but without knowledge of them i cannot fix it. Or we come to the conclusion we dont need another screenreader and i will better spent my sparetime at the bar ;). Am Freitag 4. August 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I have used fenrir git version for a little while and have tried insert-h to get help up and that doesn't work. super-h doesn't work and even kp(insert)-h doesn't work. (keypad)8 plays a couple different sounds depending on number of times it is pressed it appears to toggle those sounds. Originally I was thinking speakup and fenrir were fighting until checking contents of /etc/fenrir/settings/ out but that's not the case. It's just that fenrir introduces keyboard latency. What surprised me though is I have speech-dispatcher installed on this system and fenrir did not use that synthesizer as its default even though speech-dispatcher got installed before fenrir. Speech-dispatcher speaks nicely when first started but as keys are typed speech quality degrades fast to the point where many parts of many words do not get spoken. But then all of this could be because speech-dispatcher needs configuring. I downloaded voices for speech-dispatcher and unpacked them and need to read some more of what I can find on the web pages to get a default speech-dispatcher voice selected. I want to do that since that probably helps me get speechd-el working inside emacs too. On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:31:35 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: fenrir setup? Can speakup be turned off once fenrir starts? I got the fenrir-git aur package installed and apparently running on this system a little earlier today. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir errors
by the way if you try again please pull git master again i did some massive changes :) for process handling. Am 08.08.2017 um 01:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I've attached the errors I get when I try to run Fenrir without installing it. All dependencies are installed and I hear no sound or speech. Does this file suggest why? ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir errors
I was thinking, wouldn't a live phone conference be a faster way for many of us to get these issues resolved? I would suggest a phone bridge instead of something like Skype, as many of us would need our sound cards for speech. Thanks in advance Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir errors
Howdy, i often stay in mumble on mumble.linux-a11y.org nickname chrys also storm is often available there (he has a lot of experience since he is my tester and is using fenrir for fulltime). i also stay on irc on: irc.netwirc.tk rooms #a11y #devel https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=join-us I m always want to help :) thats why i create OCRdesktop fenrir and SOPS. Am 11.08.2017 um 18:14 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I was thinking, wouldn't a live phone conference be a faster way for many of us to get these issues resolved? I would suggest a phone bridge instead of something like Skype, as many of us would need our sound cards for speech. Thanks in advance Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Fenrir Wiki updated
Howdy, i updated the fenrir user wiki to hopfully be more useful for troubleshooting. i hope this helps https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual#troubleshooting corrections are always welcome since i have a really bad english lol but i try to do my best. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
linux firefox and webvisum
I got webvisum installed on a current version of linux (ubuntu). When I did the install, I did not log onto webvisum. After firefox restart it's like it doesn't appear to be installed in firefox now. If this is the case what key combination or key can I use to wake it up so I can log into it locally? -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: linux firefox and webvisum
Hi, my signature is at the bottom of the message, but, to save yall the trouble, I'm Jackie. Part of the problem may be that the old version of W V is not signed. U may have to go into about:config & enable unsigned extensions. Alternatively, I believe a guy named James Shoals has a new, signed version of W V. I'm not sure if that works on Linux or is only for windows. HTH, & let us know if u resolved it, won't u? On 8/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I got webvisum installed on a current version of linux (ubuntu). When I > did the install, I did not log onto webvisum. After firefox restart it's > like it doesn't appear to be installed in firefox now. If this is the > case what key combination or key can I use to wake it up so I can log into > it locally? > > > > -- > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe Jackie McBride Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time https://brighter-vision.com ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir Wiki updated
Running spd-conf messed up my speech. I listen to speech very fast. It slowed it down! I find a system with slow speech to be barely useable. I had sped it up by modifying the max speed setting in /etc/speech-dispatcher/moldules/espeak.conf That modified file is still there, but speech is still slow. Please help! My thoughts are wandering between syllables. On 8/11/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > i updated the fenrir user wiki to hopfully be more useful for > troubleshooting. i hope this helps > > https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual#troubleshooting > corrections are always welcome since i have a really bad english lol but > i try to do my best. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function with speech this slow. Please help. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to use the file I was using before. Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: > I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow > and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. > > Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the > /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still > there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function > with speech this slow. Please help. > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Fenrir error file
I get sound but no speech. I'm using gstreamer. BTW, your email address where you receive these log files bounced: ** Address not found ** Your message wasn't delivered to ch...@linux-a11y.de because the domain linux-a11y.de couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary spaces and try again. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir Wiki updated
Howdy, i wonder what kind of screen reader are you using currently? just to know why are you affect this. orca should not be affected. what is needed to use fenrir is that speech-dispatcher is streaming to pulse insteed of alsa. that why spd-conf for root is needed. you can always revert all kind of missconfiguration by delete the folder in home ".config/speech-dispatcher/" in /root (for root) and in /home/user/ for your user. what screenreader are you using currently? orca should not affect by changes here since it is overwriting stuff by its own settings (like fenrir does). cheers chrys Am 12.08.2017 um 19:32 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Running spd-conf messed up my speech. I listen to speech very fast. It slowed it down! I find a system with slow speech to be barely useable. I had sped it up by modifying the max speed setting in /etc/speech-dispatcher/moldules/espeak.conf That modified file is still there, but speech is still slow. Please help! My thoughts are wandering between syllables. On 8/11/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Howdy, i updated the fenrir user wiki to hopfully be more useful for troubleshooting. i hope this helps https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual#troubleshooting corrections are always welcome since i have a really bad english lol but i try to do my best. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
Howdy, what screen reader are you using currently? maybe you run spd-conf that overwrite your settings in "users home" so you chang make changes in ".config/speech-dispatcher" that overwrites the systemwide settings. maybe i can assist you doing some teamviewer or ssh session? i will make it working for you then. cheers chrys Am 12.08.2017 um 20:19 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function with speech this slow. Please help. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
maybe send me a private message to ch...@linux-a11y.org i lets fix this :). Am 12.08.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to use the file I was using before. Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function with speech this slow. Please help. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir error file
Howdy, ah cool so the sound setup is correct. you just need to configure speech-dispatcher. run spd-conf as root and tell it to use pulse. sorry i misspelled it. my mail address is: ch...@linux-a11y.org cheers chrys Am 12.08.2017 um 22:56 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I get sound but no speech. I'm using gstreamer. BTW, your email address where you receive these log files bounced: ** Address not found ** Your message wasn't delivered to ch...@linux-a11y.de because the domain linux-a11y.de couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary spaces and try again. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: linux firefox and webvisum
For starters, I sent webvisum a message about unsigned addons and extensions maybe that problem will get fixed. Whether it gets fixed or not, I'll search around in about.config (inside firefox)?, and see if I can find and change allow unsigned apps to run at least temporarily until webvisum gets fixed and yes I will return with whatever results I have and/or discoveries I make and write them up here. On Sat, 12 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:04:50 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: linux firefox and webvisum Hi, my signature is at the bottom of the message, but, to save yall the trouble, I'm Jackie. Part of the problem may be that the old version of W V is not signed. U may have to go into about:config & enable unsigned extensions. Alternatively, I believe a guy named James Shoals has a new, signed version of W V. I'm not sure if that works on Linux or is only for windows. HTH, & let us know if u resolved it, won't u? On 8/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I got webvisum installed on a current version of linux (ubuntu). When I did the install, I did not log onto webvisum. After firefox restart it's like it doesn't appear to be installed in firefox now. If this is the case what key combination or key can I use to wake it up so I can log into it locally? -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
I predict this will be found not to be a fenrir problem at all but a pulseaudio problem. The reason for that is I have some pulseaudio support for vlc installed on my system and had removed speech-dispatcher-git and fenrir-git from my system since speech was being slowed down here too. Whenever I use vlc to play an mp4 or webm file on this computer, afterwards the speech slows down and sounds like darth vader until I reboot the system. I could wipe out pulseaudio configuration and try playing another mp4 file to see if the same degradation happens too and probably will in a few minutes since now this has got me curious. I expect an outside possibility exists fenrir wrote some wrong stuff with pulseaudio-config and this should be a way to find that out. On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:37:06 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. maybe send me a private message to ch...@linux-a11y.org i lets fix this :). Am 12.08.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to use the file I was using before. Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function with speech this slow. Please help. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
Now this is interesting. I did rm -fr ./config/pulse and then rebooted the system to clear memory and played a webm file I have on vlc. Afterwards no change to speech happened at all. So it is possible what configure-pulse is writing is causing problems. This is a current version of archlinux specifically talking arch with all software updated on an x86_64 machine where all of this happened. On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 01:14:01 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. I predict this will be found not to be a fenrir problem at all but a pulseaudio problem. The reason for that is I have some pulseaudio support for vlc installed on my system and had removed speech-dispatcher-git and fenrir-git from my system since speech was being slowed down here too. Whenever I use vlc to play an mp4 or webm file on this computer, afterwards the speech slows down and sounds like darth vader until I reboot the system. I could wipe out pulseaudio configuration and try playing another mp4 file to see if the same degradation happens too and probably will in a few minutes since now this has got me curious. I expect an outside possibility exists fenrir wrote some wrong stuff with pulseaudio-config and this should be a way to find that out. On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:37:06 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. maybe send me a private message to ch...@linux-a11y.org i lets fix this :). Am 12.08.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to use the file I was using before. Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function with speech this slow. Please help. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: linux firefox and webvisum
Okay, this is what I found out. First understand I'm using firefox 54.x and I did find a webvisum menu in the tools menu. However firefox made the webvisum menu inaccessible. Many of us need google to write a competitor to webvisum that works on chrome. I could justify removing firefox and thunderbird from my systems were that to happen. neomutt could probably replace thunderbird and probably at a considerable space savings on disk too. On Sat, 12 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:04:50 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: linux firefox and webvisum Hi, my signature is at the bottom of the message, but, to save yall the trouble, I'm Jackie. Part of the problem may be that the old version of W V is not signed. U may have to go into about:config & enable unsigned extensions. Alternatively, I believe a guy named James Shoals has a new, signed version of W V. I'm not sure if that works on Linux or is only for windows. HTH, & let us know if u resolved it, won't u? On 8/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I got webvisum installed on a current version of linux (ubuntu). When I did the install, I did not log onto webvisum. After firefox restart it's like it doesn't appear to be installed in firefox now. If this is the case what key combination or key can I use to wake it up so I can log into it locally? -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
I'm on Ubuntu. I originally sped up my speech by modifying the file /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf. I suspect that spd-conf created another espeak.conf file somewhere and that one is now the default. But it also set pulseaudio as the default, so I haven't ruled that out as the problem. On 8/13/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Now this is interesting. I did rm -fr ./config/pulse and then rebooted > the system to clear memory and played a webm file I have on vlc. > Afterwards no change to speech happened at all. So it is possible what > configure-pulse is writing is causing problems. This is a current > version of archlinux specifically talking arch with all software updated > on an x86_64 machine where all of this happened. > > On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 01:14:01 >> From: Linux for blind general discussion >> To: Linux for blind general discussion >> Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. >> >> I predict this will be found not to be a fenrir problem at all but a >> pulseaudio problem. The reason for that is I have some pulseaudio support >> >> for vlc installed on my system and had removed speech-dispatcher-git and >> fenrir-git from my system since speech was being slowed down here too. >> Whenever I use vlc to play an mp4 or webm file on this computer, >> afterwards >> the speech slows down and sounds like darth vader until I reboot the >> system. >> I could wipe out pulseaudio configuration and try playing another mp4 file >> to >> see if the same degradation happens too and probably will in a few minutes >> >> since now this has got me curious. I expect an outside possibility exists >> >> fenrir wrote some wrong stuff with pulseaudio-config and this should be a >> way >> to find that out. >> >> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> >>> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:37:06 >>> From: Linux for blind general discussion >>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>> Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. >>> >>> maybe send me a private message to >>> ch...@linux-a11y.org >>> i lets fix this :). >>> Am 12.08.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>> Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch >>>> changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to >>>> use the file I was using before. >>>> Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: >>>>> I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow >>>>> and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. >>>>> >>>>> Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the >>>>> /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still >>>>> there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function >>>>> with speech this slow. Please help. >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >> >> > > -- > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir error file
I've created a user configuration with spd-conf and set sound as pulse. All the tests pass. Fenrir still makes the opening sound but doesn't talk. I tried creating a system configuration with spd-conf but it causes spd-conf to crash. Something else also crashes. The Ubuntu GUI asks me to send an error report but doesn't tell me what crashed. On 8/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > ah cool so the sound setup is correct. > you just need to configure speech-dispatcher. > run spd-conf as root and tell it to use pulse. > sorry i misspelled it. my mail address is: > ch...@linux-a11y.org > cheers chrys > Am 12.08.2017 um 22:56 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> I get sound but no speech. I'm using gstreamer. BTW, your email >> address where you receive these log files bounced: >> >> ** Address not found ** >> Your message wasn't delivered to ch...@linux-a11y.de because the >> domain linux-a11y.de couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary >> spaces and try again. >> >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Fenrir Wiki updated
I'm using Orca. > you can always revert all kind of missconfiguration by delete the folder in > home > ".config/speech-dispatcher/" in /root (for root) Which folder do I delete? > and in /home/user/ for your user. /home/user/ doesn't exist. Which folder do I remove here? On 8/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > i wonder what kind of screen reader are you using currently? > just to know why are you affect this. orca should not be affected. > > what is needed to use fenrir is that speech-dispatcher is streaming to > pulse insteed of alsa. that why spd-conf for root is needed. > you can always revert all kind of missconfiguration by delete the folder > in home ".config/speech-dispatcher/" in /root (for root) and in > /home/user/ for your user. > > what screenreader are you using currently? orca should not affect by > changes here since it is overwriting stuff by its own settings (like > fenrir does). > cheers chrys > > Am 12.08.2017 um 19:32 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> Running spd-conf messed up my speech. >> I listen to speech very fast. It slowed it down! I find a system with >> slow speech to be barely useable. >> >> I had sped it up by modifying the max speed setting in >> /etc/speech-dispatcher/moldules/espeak.conf >> >> That modified file is still there, but speech is still slow. Please >> help! My thoughts are wandering between syllables. >> >> On 8/11/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> i updated the fenrir user wiki to hopfully be more useful for >>> troubleshooting. i hope this helps >>> >>> https://wiki.linux-a11y.org/doku.php?id=fenrir_user_manual#troubleshooting >>> corrections are always welcome since i have a really bad english lol but >>> i try to do my best. >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
lost speech with upgrade from jessie to stretch
Greetings! I upgraded from jessie to stretch this afternoon, after reading the upgrade section of the release notes and other oddds and ends. When I first rebooted, I apparently got speakup talking real slow. I had disabled espeakup.service after installing jessie, so I guessed the upgrade must have re-enabled it. Also, orca never came up. I did systemctl disable espeakup.service and rebooted. Speakup didn't come up, which I expected. Orca never did either. Using alt-super-s didn't work. I was never able to get speakup again. Enabling espeakup.service didn't work. Trying to run the script I created to run it after I'd gone in with orca (which I didn't have this afternoon) didn't work. using modprobe to load speakup_soft with staert=1 and then running the command espeakup didn't work. I therefore have no speakup and no orca. I know I went into a couple of terminals, where I typed these commands, because the poweroff command actually shut the thing down. With no speech, though, it's hard to figure how to either disable pulseaudio according to the Debian accessibility instructions or retrieve my previous set-up. I'll be grateful for any pointers. Al ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
If you have locate installed and ran updatedb recently you can type locate espeak.conf and find all locations for that file. The package may be called mlocate or locate and typing which locate will tell you if the locate package or mlocate package is installed. On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:07:52 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. I'm on Ubuntu. I originally sped up my speech by modifying the file /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf. I suspect that spd-conf created another espeak.conf file somewhere and that one is now the default. But it also set pulseaudio as the default, so I haven't ruled that out as the problem. On 8/13/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Now this is interesting. I did rm -fr ./config/pulse and then rebooted the system to clear memory and played a webm file I have on vlc. Afterwards no change to speech happened at all. So it is possible what configure-pulse is writing is causing problems. This is a current version of archlinux specifically talking arch with all software updated on an x86_64 machine where all of this happened. On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 01:14:01 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. I predict this will be found not to be a fenrir problem at all but a pulseaudio problem. The reason for that is I have some pulseaudio support for vlc installed on my system and had removed speech-dispatcher-git and fenrir-git from my system since speech was being slowed down here too. Whenever I use vlc to play an mp4 or webm file on this computer, afterwards the speech slows down and sounds like darth vader until I reboot the system. I could wipe out pulseaudio configuration and try playing another mp4 file to see if the same degradation happens too and probably will in a few minutes since now this has got me curious. I expect an outside possibility exists fenrir wrote some wrong stuff with pulseaudio-config and this should be a way to find that out. On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:37:06 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. maybe send me a private message to ch...@linux-a11y.org i lets fix this :). Am 12.08.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to use the file I was using before. Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY slow and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't function with speech this slow. Please help. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.
I got rid of all but my original espeak.conf. Speech still has not reverted to the way it was. Weirdly, the only thing that has changed is that the pitch of capitalized words is raised by about an octave On 8/13/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > If you have locate installed and ran updatedb recently you can type > locate espeak.conf and find all locations for that file. The package > may be called mlocate or locate and typing which locate will tell you if > the locate package or mlocate package is installed. > > On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:07:52 >> From: Linux for blind general discussion >> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >> Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. >> >> I'm on Ubuntu. I originally sped up my speech by modifying the file >> /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf. >> I suspect that spd-conf created another espeak.conf file somewhere and >> that one is now the default. But it also set pulseaudio as the >> default, so I haven't ruled that out as the problem. >> >> On 8/13/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >>> Now this is interesting. I did rm -fr ./config/pulse and then rebooted >>> the system to clear memory and played a webm file I have on vlc. >>> Afterwards no change to speech happened at all. So it is possible what >>> configure-pulse is writing is causing problems. This is a current >>> version of archlinux specifically talking arch with all software updated >>> on an x86_64 machine where all of this happened. >>> >>> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 01:14:01 >>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion >>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion >>>> Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. >>>> >>>> I predict this will be found not to be a fenrir problem at all but a >>>> pulseaudio problem. The reason for that is I have some pulseaudio >>>> support >>>> >>>> for vlc installed on my system and had removed speech-dispatcher-git >>>> and >>>> fenrir-git from my system since speech was being slowed down here too. >>>> Whenever I use vlc to play an mp4 or webm file on this computer, >>>> afterwards >>>> the speech slows down and sounds like darth vader until I reboot the >>>> system. >>>> I could wipe out pulseaudio configuration and try playing another mp4 >>>> file >>>> to >>>> see if the same degradation happens too and probably will in a few >>>> minutes >>>> >>>> since now this has got me curious. I expect an outside possibility >>>> exists >>>> >>>> fenrir wrote some wrong stuff with pulseaudio-config and this should be >>>> a >>>> way >>>> to find that out. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>>> >>>>> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:37:06 >>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion >>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help. >>>>> >>>>> maybe send me a private message to >>>>> ch...@linux-a11y.org >>>>> i lets fix this :). >>>>> Am 12.08.2017 um 20:37 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>> Now I have British-sounding speech as well as slow speech with pitch >>>>>> changes and punctuations spoken that I don't want. I really need to >>>>>> use the file I was using before. >>>>>> Again, help is necessary and greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/12/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: >>>>>>> I ran it while trying to make fenrir work. Now everything is VERY >>>>>>> slow >>>>>>> and I get weird pitch changes with caiptal letters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Before, I was able to adjust the max rate in the >>>>>>> /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf file. That file is still >>>>>>> there, but the rate settings no longer seem to apply. I can't >>>>>>> function >>>>>>> with speech this slow. Please help. >>>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > -- > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
getting started with debian, suggestions anyone?
Hi all, I'm looking to get started seriously in debian, although I appear to be having several problems. First off, my initial hope was to be able to work exclusivly in the commandline with espeakup, which I understand should be installed by default when using the accessable installer from the netinstall. However, after going through the installation, selecting standard system utilities, ssh server and web server I don't appear to have speech. I do, however have the console beap after logging in which suggests to me that the installation was succesfull. I'm half tempted to scrap this current instance and reinstall, but my question is do any of you have any combinations from that main installation screen that you would suggest using? Thanks much for any help with this. Cheers, Daniel ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Overwriting old/corrupted files in a backup
Okay, so using the cp command with the -Rn switch is convenient for say copying my Music folder from my home directory to an external hard drive or the SD card for my portable Media player when the destination already has an older copy without needing to copy everything already present in the old copy, manually determining what's been added and copying manually, or dealing with a bunch of prompts. It also allows an aborted copy to more or less be resumed from where it left off. This method is simple enough to not require scripting or complex command syntax, but it does have a few downsides: 1. It won't overwrite corrupted files left by an interrupted copy, and such files are too rare for manual searching. 2. Files that have been altered don't get copied. unless they've changed filename. Not a big issue for copying my Music folder since those files are seldom altered, but copying say, my writing folder can lead to the backup media containing only older drafts of some documents. 3. It tells me nothing of files from an older copy that have been deletd/renamed since the last copy. jdupes can find old files on the destination media if the new file is just a rename, but it can't help with files that have been altered as well as renamed. I suppose what I'm looking for is a command line utility or script that executes the following pseudo code: Given directories source and destination: for every file found in both source and destination: if file.source != file.destination prompt user whether to overwrite one version of the file with the other or to add the files to a list for later examination. For every file only in source: search for match in destination. If match found prompt user towhich to rename to match. If not match found, copy to destination. For every file only in destination: search for match in source. If match is found, prompt user to which file should be renamed. If no match is found, prompt user whether to copy of delete. If anyone knows of command line utilities to help with this task, it would be greatly appreciated. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: getting started with debian, suggestions anyone?
Go into a terminal and type: modprobe speakup.soft Then type: espeakup and see if you get speech. You could scrap the install and start over, but were I you and did that I'd get into debian main menu by typing (<) at a prompt that's the less than sign sift the comma and I would change priority to low by keying change priority's number then keying in the number on submenu for low. Then I would key in the number to preserve log files and choose mounted partition for that and then hit enter on default choice. Then I'd continue with the installation. The log files are of interest to the debian-boot email list and a problem you experienced may get discovered by them and corrected for your hardware that way. On Mon, 14 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:41:08 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: "blinux-list@redhat.com" Subject: getting started with debian, suggestions anyone? Hi all, I'm looking to get started seriously in debian, although I appear to be having several problems. First off, my initial hope was to be able to work exclusivly in the commandline with espeakup, which I understand should be installed by default when using the accessable installer from the netinstall. However, after going through the installation, selecting standard system utilities, ssh server and web server I don't appear to have speech. I do, however have the console beap after logging in which suggests to me that the installation was succesfull. I'm half tempted to scrap this current instance and reinstall, but my question is do any of you have any combinations from that main installation screen that you would suggest using? Thanks much for any help with this. Cheers, Daniel ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
re: firefox and webvisum
Okay, when in firefox I typed control-f10 I get a menu and moving down I find webvisum menu so hit enter on that. Then I find login and hit enter on that and nothing happens. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Orca speech still messed up
The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > howdy, > > did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher > # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher > sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old > # remove your user specific settings > sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ > # remove any root specific settings > sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ > and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? > cheers chrys > Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified >> version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. >> Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. >> >> BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. >> It only lets me select "default synthesizer". >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while reinstalling. you should be able to do this with |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher on an debian system. you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also remove orca as dependency. | Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while > reinstalling. > you should be able to do this with > |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher > on an debian system. > you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also > remove orca as dependency. > | > Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >> How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get >> remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? >> >> >> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >>> howdy, >>> >>> did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher >>> # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher >>> sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old >>> # remove your user specific settings >>> sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>> # remove any root specific settings >>> sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>> cheers chrys >>> Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>> The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified >>>> version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. >>>> Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. >>>> >>>> BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. >>>> It only lets me select "default synthesizer". >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
did you try to move your orca settings and let recreate it to see if it is an orca issue? mv /home//.local/share/orca /home//.local/share/orca-bak restart orca then, it should recreate this folder with default settings. if it does not work you can just move it back and restart orca again. cheers chrys Am 15.08.2017 um 00:39 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while reinstalling. you should be able to do this with |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher on an debian system. you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also remove orca as dependency. | Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has not improved. On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: > I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. > > On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion > wrote: >> it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while >> reinstalling. >> you should be able to do this with >> |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher >> on an debian system. >> you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also >> remove orca as dependency. >> | >> Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>> How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get >>> remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? >>> >>> >>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>> wrote: >>>> howdy, >>>> >>>> did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher >>>> # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher >>>> sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old >>>> # remove your user specific settings >>>> sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>>> # remove any root specific settings >>>> sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>>> cheers chrys >>>> Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>> The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified >>>>> version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. >>>>> Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. >>>>> >>>>> BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. >>>>> It only lets me select "default synthesizer". >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has not improved. On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while reinstalling. you should be able to do this with |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher on an debian system. you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also remove orca as dependency. | Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
Yes. I've done all those things. Still messed up. There is now a new espeak.conf under /usr/share/speech-dispatcher/conf/modules. I tried changing the max rate in that one with no results. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? > so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore > Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has >> not improved. >> >> On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: >>> I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. >>> >>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>> wrote: >>>> it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while >>>> reinstalling. >>>> you should be able to do this with >>>> |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher >>>> on an debian system. >>>> you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also >>>> remove orca as dependency. >>>> | >>>> Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>>>> How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get >>>>> remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> howdy, >>>>>> >>>>>> did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher >>>>>> # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher >>>>>> sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old >>>>>> # remove your user specific settings >>>>>> sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>>>>> # remove any root specific settings >>>>>> sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>>>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>>>>> cheers chrys >>>>>> Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>>> The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified >>>>>>> version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. >>>>>>> Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the >>>>>>> synthesizer. >>>>>>> It only lets me select "default synthesizer". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
it creates the default setup. thats what we want. orca ignores the speech-dispatcher configuration. it has its own preferences. so changing the "espeak.conf" will not have any affect to orca. it is just used as default if the application did not overwrite with there own settings (spd-say i.e. use it i think). the pitch is found on voice tab in orca. you can select different pitches, volume and voices for Capital, hyperlink, system and default text. Am 15.08.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Yes. I've done all those things. Still messed up. There is now a new espeak.conf under /usr/share/speech-dispatcher/conf/modules. I tried changing the max rate in that one with no results. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has not improved. On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while reinstalling. you should be able to do this with |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher on an debian system. you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also remove orca as dependency. | Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
do you have team viewer? should i take a look at? Am 15.08.2017 um 01:08 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: it creates the default setup. thats what we want. orca ignores the speech-dispatcher configuration. it has its own preferences. so changing the "espeak.conf" will not have any affect to orca. it is just used as default if the application did not overwrite with there own settings (spd-say i.e. use it i think). the pitch is found on voice tab in orca. you can select different pitches, volume and voices for Capital, hyperlink, system and default text. Am 15.08.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Yes. I've done all those things. Still messed up. There is now a new espeak.conf under /usr/share/speech-dispatcher/conf/modules. I tried changing the max rate in that one with no results. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has not improved. On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while reinstalling. you should be able to do this with |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher on an debian system. you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also remove orca as dependency. | Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Orca speech still messed up
I don't have team viewer yet. Is it quick to set up? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > do you have team viewer? > should i take a look at? > Am 15.08.2017 um 01:08 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> it creates the default setup. >> thats what we want. >> orca ignores the speech-dispatcher configuration. it has its own >> preferences. so changing the "espeak.conf" will not have any affect to >> orca. it is just used as default if the application did not overwrite >> with there own settings (spd-say i.e. use it i think). >> the pitch is found on voice tab in orca. >> you can select different pitches, volume and voices for Capital, >> hyperlink, system and default text. >> >> Am 15.08.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>> Yes. I've done all those things. Still messed up. >>> >>> There is now a new espeak.conf under >>> /usr/share/speech-dispatcher/conf/modules. I tried changing the max >>> rate in that one with no results. >>> >>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>> wrote: >>>> But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? >>>> so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore >>>> Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>> My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has >>>>> not improved. >>>>> >>>>> On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: >>>>>> I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher >>>>>>> while >>>>>>> reinstalling. >>>>>>> you should be able to do this with >>>>>>> |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher >>>>>>> on an debian system. >>>>>>> you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also >>>>>>> remove orca as dependency. >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>>>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>>>>>>> How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get >>>>>>>> remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> howdy, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher >>>>>>>>> # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher >>>>>>>>> sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old >>>>>>>>> # remove your user specific settings >>>>>>>>> sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>>>>>>>> # remove any root specific settings >>>>>>>>> sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ >>>>>>>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>>>>>>>> cheers chrys >>>>>>>>> Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>>>>>> The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified >>>>>>>>>> version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. >>>>>>>>>> Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the >>>>>>>>>> synthesizer. >>>>>>>>>> It only lets me select "default synthesizer". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>>>>>> ___ >>>
Re: Orca speech still messed up
depends on your distro. i dont know if it is in the repositorys. maybe you can take a look at otherwhise you will find the .deb file here: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/ you can install it with sudo dpkg -i filename.deb you need to start daemon after installation if you are using systemd its done with that sudo systemctl start teamviewer you need to start the teamviewer client then (its an GUI application but not accessible via orca). so just create an screenshot with "print" key and send it to me ch...@linux-a11y.org not sure if i can fix it (since i m not a debian user) but i could give an shot. but i went to bed in about an hour. its late in germany :). cheers chrys Am 15.08.2017 um 01:19 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I don't have team viewer yet. Is it quick to set up? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: do you have team viewer? should i take a look at? Am 15.08.2017 um 01:08 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: it creates the default setup. thats what we want. orca ignores the speech-dispatcher configuration. it has its own preferences. so changing the "espeak.conf" will not have any affect to orca. it is just used as default if the application did not overwrite with there own settings (spd-say i.e. use it i think). the pitch is found on voice tab in orca. you can select different pitches, volume and voices for Capital, hyperlink, system and default text. Am 15.08.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Yes. I've done all those things. Still messed up. There is now a new espeak.conf under /usr/share/speech-dispatcher/conf/modules. I tried changing the max rate in that one with no results. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed has not improved. On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher while reinstalling. you should be able to do this with |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher on an debian system. you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe also remove orca as dependency. | Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean apt-get remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: howdy, did you try to renew all configuration files for speech-dispatcher # move global configuration for speech-dispatcher sudo mv /etc/speech-dispatcher/ /etc/speech-dispatcher-old # remove your user specific settings sudo rm -r /home//.config/speech-dispatcher/ # remove any root specific settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default synthesizer". ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list m
Re: Orca speech still messed up
Teamviewer encountered errors and did not instal. What folders would you want print-screens of? Maybe I can capture them another way. On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > depends on your distro. i dont know if it is in the repositorys. > maybe you can take a look at > otherwhise you will find the .deb file here: > https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/ > > you can install it with > sudo dpkg -i filename.deb > you need to start daemon after installation > if you are using systemd its done with that > sudo systemctl start teamviewer > you need to start the teamviewer client then (its an GUI application but > not accessible via orca). > so just create an screenshot with "print" key and send it to me > ch...@linux-a11y.org > > not sure if i can fix it (since i m not a debian user) but i could give > an shot. > but i went to bed in about an hour. its late in germany :). > cheers chrys > Am 15.08.2017 um 01:19 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> I don't have team viewer yet. Is it quick to set up? >> >> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >> wrote: >>> do you have team viewer? >>> should i take a look at? >>> Am 15.08.2017 um 01:08 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>> it creates the default setup. >>>> thats what we want. >>>> orca ignores the speech-dispatcher configuration. it has its own >>>> preferences. so changing the "espeak.conf" will not have any affect to >>>> orca. it is just used as default if the application did not overwrite >>>> with there own settings (spd-say i.e. use it i think). >>>> the pitch is found on voice tab in orca. >>>> you can select different pitches, volume and voices for Capital, >>>> hyperlink, system and default text. >>>> >>>> Am 15.08.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>> Yes. I've done all those things. Still messed up. >>>>> >>>>> There is now a new espeak.conf under >>>>> /usr/share/speech-dispatcher/conf/modules. I tried changing the max >>>>> rate in that one with no results. >>>>> >>>>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> But you moved the settings away bevore reinstalling right? >>>>>> so speech-dispatcher cannot use it anymore >>>>>> Am 15.08.2017 um 00:40 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>>> My espeak.conf file is still there and is unchanged, but the speed >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> not improved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/14/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: >>>>>>>> I reinstalled speech-dispatcher and restarted Orca. No change. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> it should be no problem as long you dont stop speech-dispatcher >>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>> reinstalling. >>>>>>>>> you should be able to do this with >>>>>>>>> |sudo apt-get --reinstall install speech-dispatcher >>>>>>>>> on an debian system. >>>>>>>>> you should not remove and install it since removing will maybe >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> remove orca as dependency. >>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>> Am 15.08.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >>>>>>>>>>> and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? >>>>>>>>>> How can I do this without losing speech? I assume you mean >>>>>>>>>> apt-get >>>>>>>>>> remove speech-dispatcher and apt-get install speech-dispatcher? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/17, Linux for blind general discussion >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> howdy, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> did you try to renew all configuration files for >>>>>>>>>>> speech-dispatcher >>>>>>>>>>> # move global configuration for sp
Request for coppy
Hi all, My 1st mail in this group. Accidantly, i have lost my iso blinux package, so i would like to share the link from where i can get that copy again. I have tried to get it from google search, but i am denyed to access that page. Hope for your reply. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Request for coppy
google for vinux iso On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi all, My 1st mail in this group. Accidantly, i have lost my iso blinux package, so i would like to share the link from where i can get that copy again. I have tried to get it from google search, but i am denyed to access that page. Hope for your reply. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Request for coppy
http://vinuxproject.org/downloads maybe. I'm all ubuntu, so haven't used this. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Overwriting old/corrupted files in a backup
Hi,
I didn't know about 'cp -Rn'. I made friends with rsync
years ago, and use it for local copies as well as to/from
remote hosts over the network.
It has flags for most of the behaviors you want.
To not clobber existing files during the copy you have:
--backup, --backup-dir and --suffix options.
To test before actually copying: --dry-run
I generally use -a and -v options (retain attributes, and
give verbose output).
For comparing to directory trees, there must be something
better available, however, I can offer a short perl script
(attached) takes two directory trees and lists differences
in size, modify date, owner, group, permission, etc. between
files; files only in source, or only in target. Not great
coding style (you shouldn't use $a and $b as variable names
because they have special meaning during sort).
Hope this helps,
Joel
someone wrote:
> Okay, so using the cp command with the -Rn switch is convenient for
> say copying my Music folder from my home directory to an external hard
> drive or the SD card for my portable Media player when the destination
> already has an older copy without needing to copy everything already
> present in the old copy, manually determining what's been added and
> copying manually, or dealing with a bunch of prompts. It also allows
> an aborted copy to more or less be resumed from where it left off.
>
> This method is simple enough to not require scripting or complex
> command syntax, but it does have a few downsides:
> 1. It won't overwrite corrupted files left by an interrupted copy, and
> such files are too rare for manual searching.
> 2. Files that have been altered don't get copied. unless they've
> changed filename. Not a big issue for copying my Music folder since
> those files are seldom altered, but copying say, my writing folder can
> lead to the backup media containing only older drafts of some
> documents.
> 3. It tells me nothing of files from an older copy that have been
> deletd/renamed since the last copy. jdupes can find old files on the
> destination media if the new file is just a rename, but it can't help
> with files that have been altered as well as renamed.
>
> I suppose what I'm looking for is a command line utility or script
> that executes the following pseudo code:
> Given directories source and destination:
> for every file found in both source and destination:
> if file.source != file.destination
> prompt user whether to overwrite one version of the file with the
> other or to add the files to a list for later examination.
> For every file only in source:
> search for match in destination.
> If match found prompt user towhich to rename to match.
> If not match found, copy to destination.
> For every file only in destination:
> search for match in source.
> If match is found, prompt user to which file should be renamed.
> If no match is found, prompt user whether to copy of delete.
>
> If anyone knows of command line utilities to help with this task, it
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
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#!/usr/bin/env perl
my ($a, $b) = @ARGV;
my (%a, %b); # hashes to hold stat data
my %stat_field =( 0 => 'dev',
1 => 'ino',
2 => 'mode',
3 => 'nlink',
4 => 'uid',
5 => 'gid',
6 => 'rdev',
7 => 'size',
8 => 'atime',
9 => 'mtime',
10 => 'ctime',
11 => 'blksize',
12 => 'blks');
my @target_fields = (2, 4, 5, 7, 9);
my %compared = ();
use File::Find;
find (\&want_a, $a );
sub want_a { $a{$File::Find::name} = [ stat $File::Find::name ]; }
find (\&want_b, $b);
sub want_b { $b{$File::Find::name} = [ stat $File::Find::name ]; }
#foreach my $k (keys %a) {print join (" ", $k, @{$a{$k}}, "\n" ); } exit;
#foreach my $k (keys %b) {print join (" ", $k, @{$b{$k}}, "\n" ); } exit;
# print join "\n", keys %b; exit;
foreach my $k (keys %a) {
# print $k, "\n"; next;
my $l = $k;
$l =~ s/^$a/$b/;
# print "$k $l\n";
$b{$l} or print ("$k not in target\n"), next;
my @diffs = ();
foreach my $f (@target_fields) {
print(join " ", "$k differs in $stat_field{$f}:", $a{$k}->[$f],
$b{$l}->[$f] ,"\n")
if ! $b{$l}->[$f] == $a{$k}->[$f];
}
$compared{$l}++;
}
foreach my $l (keys %b) {
next if $compared{$l};
print "$l not in source\n";
}
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No speech with orca
I resterated the machine and now I get no speech with orca. Emacspeak still talks. In orca preferences the "speech system" and "speech synthesizer choices no longer appear. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: No speech with orca
Fixed it! And I got my speech settings back. I just made sure I'd done everything Crys suggested and then ran spd-conf again. Thanks Crys! On 8/15/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: > I resterated the machine and now I get no speech with orca. Emacspeak > still talks. In orca preferences the "speech system" and "speech > synthesizer choices no longer appear. > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: No speech with orca
happy to hear :) you are welcome. cheers chrys Am 16.08.2017 um 01:03 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: Fixed it! And I got my speech settings back. I just made sure I'd done everything Crys suggested and then ran spd-conf again. Thanks Crys! On 8/15/17, Amanda Lacy wrote: I resterated the machine and now I get no speech with orca. Emacspeak still talks. In orca preferences the "speech system" and "speech synthesizer choices no longer appear. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Request for coppy
Thank you. But in vinux, after pressing super + a, Orca does not say my available apps and sounds scratched a lot. So do you have any suggestion? On 8/15/17, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > http://vinuxproject.org/downloads > > maybe. > I'm all ubuntu, so haven't used this. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Request for coppy
Here, save the script below to your machine then run it. If you have wget installed you'll get your copy back on your machine. To check the download progress, you can use wc -l wget-log. If you read a number that keeps growing each time you key in that wc -l wget-log command it means your iso is still downloading. When that number stops growing you want to do the command grep -in saved wget-log. If grep returns a line with saved on it then the iso download is finished. Once finished you can safely rm wget-log. cut here. #!/usr/bin/env bash # file: getvinux.sh - get latest vinux version wget --background --continue --trust-server-names --max-redirect=1 https://sourceforge.net/projects/vinuxproject/files/latest/download?source=files cut here. On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:15:36 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Request for coppy google for vinux iso On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi all, My 1st mail in this group. Accidantly, i have lost my iso blinux package, so i would like to share the link from where i can get that copy again. I have tried to get it from google search, but i am denyed to access that page. Hope for your reply. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
festival screen reader install
I downloaded the voices pack for festival and put it in /usr/share/festival/english/. The english part of that may have needed capitalization I'm not sure. Beyond that, I don't know yet how to select a default voice from those available and configure festival so that a voice comes up talking when I run festival --server. I wouldn't have asked about any of this here if I found this information using google, I tried that first and came up with zip. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Overwriting old/corrupted files in a backup
Use rsync instead. You'll never look back. Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Okay, so using the cp command with the -Rn switch is convenient for > say copying my Music folder from my home directory to an external hard > drive or the SD card for my portable Media player when the destination > already has an older copy without needing to copy everything already > present in the old copy, manually determining what's been added and > copying manually, or dealing with a bunch of prompts. It also allows > an aborted copy to more or less be resumed from where it left off. > > This method is simple enough to not require scripting or complex > command syntax, but it does have a few downsides: > 1. It won't overwrite corrupted files left by an interrupted copy, and > such files are too rare for manual searching. > 2. Files that have been altered don't get copied. unless they've > changed filename. Not a big issue for copying my Music folder since > those files are seldom altered, but copying say, my writing folder can > lead to the backup media containing only older drafts of some > documents. > 3. It tells me nothing of files from an older copy that have been > deletd/renamed since the last copy. jdupes can find old files on the > destination media if the new file is just a rename, but it can't help > with files that have been altered as well as renamed. > > I suppose what I'm looking for is a command line utility or script > that executes the following pseudo code: > Given directories source and destination: > for every file found in both source and destination: > if file.source != file.destination > prompt user whether to overwrite one version of the file with the > other or to add the files to a list for later examination. > For every file only in source: > search for match in destination. > If match found prompt user towhich to rename to match. > If not match found, copy to destination. > For every file only in destination: > search for match in source. > If match is found, prompt user to which file should be renamed. > If no match is found, prompt user whether to copy of delete. > > If anyone knows of command line utilities to help with this task, it > would be greatly appreciated. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Overwriting old/corrupted files in a backup
I agree. rsync is fast and extremely powerful. If in the future you need something really sophisticated, like large companies use, try storeBackup. Fernando On 08/16/2017 09:57 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Use rsync instead. You'll never look back. Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: Okay, so using the cp command with the -Rn switch is convenient for say copying my Music folder from my home directory to an external hard drive or the SD card for my portable Media player when the destination already has an older copy without needing to copy everything already present in the old copy, manually determining what's been added and copying manually, or dealing with a bunch of prompts. It also allows an aborted copy to more or less be resumed from where it left off. This method is simple enough to not require scripting or complex command syntax, but it does have a few downsides: 1. It won't overwrite corrupted files left by an interrupted copy, and such files are too rare for manual searching. 2. Files that have been altered don't get copied. unless they've changed filename. Not a big issue for copying my Music folder since those files are seldom altered, but copying say, my writing folder can lead to the backup media containing only older drafts of some documents. 3. It tells me nothing of files from an older copy that have been deletd/renamed since the last copy. jdupes can find old files on the destination media if the new file is just a rename, but it can't help with files that have been altered as well as renamed. I suppose what I'm looking for is a command line utility or script that executes the following pseudo code: Given directories source and destination: for every file found in both source and destination: if file.source != file.destination prompt user whether to overwrite one version of the file with the other or to add the files to a list for later examination. For every file only in source: search for match in destination. If match found prompt user towhich to rename to match. If not match found, copy to destination. For every file only in destination: search for match in source. If match is found, prompt user to which file should be renamed. If no match is found, prompt user whether to copy of delete. If anyone knows of command line utilities to help with this task, it would be greatly appreciated. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
accessing shared files. what password and name?
Hi. I've got files on my windows computer. I can see the computer name in orca, but when I try to connect I have to log in with user name and password. what name and password does it want? and pass -- Kristoffer Gustafsson Salängsgatan 7a tel:033-12 60 93 mobil: 0730-500934 ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
