Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday
No problem, there will also be one next week ;) Italo Vignoli wrote on 2011-03-16 00.37: I will be on a train at that time, and I anticipate that it will be very difficult for me to participate. -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Confused by our Trademark Policy ...
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-11 14.34: there's no more formal running vote. We're discussing on what to do with respect to the TDF trademark itself and the TDF subline. My last post was asking the following question: If we agree on the TM policy in I agree, and thanks a lot for drafting and pushing it forward! Just one remark: Legally, we should maybe mention "Referred to 'TDF' in this document", rather than "short 'TDF'", as the latter one might create the impression "TDF" is our trademark as well, which it isn't. I also would change "widespread use of TDF trademarks" to "widespread use of our trademarks", as the former one might raise the impression people should use the TDF subline as much as possible, which they shouldn't. This term, "TDF trademarks", occurs more often, and probably all should be replaced by "our trademarks", to make it clear and avoid confusion. We should also add a separate paragraph "Contact", where we sum up the contact possibilities. In addition to the e-mail address, we should also add a fax number. Feel free to use mine, which is currently also registered with the trademark office, as I'm the legal representant of OOoDeV: +49 8341 99660889 (we will this replace then later on with the official TDF fax number) The sentence "Trademarks are not just TDF logos but also the names of its various products and projects, as well as the names documentfoundation.org and libreoffice.org among others (also called word marks), and are collectively referred to as “TDF Trademarks”." is wrong. The only thing generally registered as trademark or being filed is "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation", solely as word mark. No logos, no URLs and the like. These can, however, be covered by copyright or competition law, and we should add a sentence. Sorry for being so touchy here, but in some countries claiming TMs you don't have is even a crime. Legally, we should also avoid saying at the moment that the trademarks belong to TDF, as legally, they belong to OOoDeV. However, if this policy will be put in place only as soon as the foundation legally exists, leave it in the draft. In that case, don't worry about my fax number, rather wait until we have our own office or contact point. :-) general (and I think we do) does the TDF subline and the TDF trademark need a specific, more restrictive trademark policy OR does the TM already cover its usage? It is indeed a bit confusing. In the beginning, we talk about LibO and TDF trademarks, but then we have this paragraph: "TDF Trademarks should be used in their exact form, neither abbreviated nor combined with any other word or words. TDF has a set of acceptable logos for general use. If you are not sure where they are please inquire on our lists. Only the logos that bear the exact mention of the software name with the mention “The Document Foundation” are reserved for the sole and official use of TDF as an entity, for instance on splash screens from software builds compiled by the Document Foundation or DVD labels officially stemming from the Document Foundation. You may not use this set of logos but only the logos bearing the software name without the Document Foundation's mention." I think Michael raised these concerns already and wanted to legally check it. Michael, any results? Sorry for jumping in so late... although this mail is rather long, I think the points addressed are just minor and do not touch the general intention of the TM policy. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday
Hi, Original-Nachricht > Von: Florian Effenberger > > the next Steering Committee phone conference call will be > > tomorrow, Wednesday, March 16th > 1800 UTC Still at the office and not sure if I can make it in time. So short update on MC: We are waiting for the TDF website to be migrated to Silverstripe (at least Christian, Christoph, Florian are working on this). As soon as this has been done, we will implement a application form (protoype already exists). After this has been deone, we can really start the process. André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday
Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-03-16 17.28: Still at the office and not sure if I can make it in time. that's sad to hear, because it would once again leave us with just 4 SC members in the call. Given that we have 16 people (8 seats plus 8 deputies) in the commitee, that's not really that much... :-) To all the SC: Would it help if we did the calls during the weekend? I know that some do not want this, but I would appreciate if we could gather at least most of the SC people together during the calls. Not to blame you, André, I just took your mail as a chance to point this out. :-) We are waiting for the TDF website to be migrated to Silverstripe (at least Christian, Christoph, Florian are working on this). As soon as this has been done, we will implement a application form (protoype already exists). After this has been deone, we can really start the process. Ideally, the new site is propagated in DNS already tomorrow. :) Thanks Christian! Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday
Hi Flo, On 16/03/2011 19:35, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, [...] To all the SC: Would it help if we did the calls during the weekend? I know that some do not want this, but I would appreciate if we could gather at least most of the SC people together during the calls. For me it would be better and if we can make it earlier too :-) Not to blame you, André, I just took your mail as a chance to point this out. :-) We are waiting for the TDF website to be migrated to Silverstripe (at least Christian, Christoph, Florian are working on this). As soon as this has been done, we will implement a application form (protoype already exists). After this has been deone, we can really start the process. Ideally, the new site is propagated in DNS already tomorrow. :) Thanks Christian! Great and thanks a lot Christian! Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee
Hello, this is a formal vote for all steering committee members (not their deputies, unless their seat holder is unavilable). To start work on the membership committee soon, all of its committee members are needed. It is possible, however, that Sophie might be unavailable for some time. To avoid the membership committee being unable to work during this time, Cor Nouws should serve as her deputy, taking over her responsibility during her time of absence. A 2/3 majority out of the eight SC members is needed, so please cast your vote now. For the records: Mine is +1 Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 20:57 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > unavailable for some time. To avoid the membership committee being > unable to work during this time, Cor Nouws should serve as her deputy, > taking over her responsibility during her time of absence. > > A 2/3 majority out of the eight SC members is needed, so please cast > your vote now. > > For the records: Mine is +1 Sure, +1, I assume this is Sophie's nomination. C. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee
Florian Effenberger wrote: > To avoid the membership committee being unable to work during this > time, Cor Nouws should serve as her deputy, taking over her > responsibility during her time of absence. > +1 -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee
Hi, On 16/03/2011 22:57, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, this is a formal vote for all steering committee members (not their deputies, unless their seat holder is unavilable). To start work on the membership committee soon, all of its committee members are needed. It is possible, however, that Sophie might be unavailable for some time. To avoid the membership committee being unable to work during this time, Cor Nouws should serve as her deputy, taking over her responsibility during her time of absence. +1 Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***