Re: Please take personal conflict off-list (was: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF)
hello Paolo, On 02.06.22 19:55, Paolo Vecchi wrote: > > Also thanks to Andreas comment about the ESC minutes I had a look at > last week and today's minutes and it seems like Michael Meeks is already > implementing his proposal, transposed mostly by copy/paste by Kendy in > his own proposal (which BTW hasn't been renamed yet), with some > unexplained urgency and without anyone informing the board. if memory serves (and i'm sorry to say i missed last week's meeting due to a public holiday), the ESC discussed this topic because there was an urgency expressed on this list [1] regarding the hiring of in-house developers/mentors by TDF. one of the questions with this plan is which problem domains the in-house developers would be working on, that is, which are the areas that are actively used but under-maintained currently, so that for example expertise in such areas could be considered when evaluating applicants. hence the question was brought to the ESC to draw on the experience of its members in diverse areas of the code base, and the ESC attempted to come up with a list of such under-maintained areas in a collective effort, in order to expedite the TDF hiring process. the current version of the list, imperfect and unfinished as it is, is public in the TDF Wiki. also there was a follow-up discussion on the public mailing list, with about half a dozen people with various backgrounds - including several community members who are not in the ESC - provided additional input that can been taken into account. in case the board no longer considers hiring to be urgent, or is not interested in advice prepared by the ESC and sourced from the developer community, i think the ESC (who i don't speak for, this is just my personal opinion) would be most happy to stop discussing this topic and come back to it at a later date; please advise us of your preference in this regard. best regards, michael [1] https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00540.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Please take personal conflict off-list (was: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF)
Hi Thorsten, On 02/06/2022 19:02, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Dear list, Kendy & Andreas, let me repeat my earlier request to keep the interaction on this list friendly and productive. In particular, don't offend, and try not to be offended. This part of the thread is not making progress towards coming up with a final, merged proposal for in-house developers. thanks for defusing a conversation that was going in the wrong direction but I think that Andreas has brought to the discussion quite a few very good points. It's rather unfortunate that Kendy did not reply in a constructive manner to several of Andreas, IMHO, valid objections to his proposal, some of which go along the lines of what I was about to reply. Also thanks to Andreas comment about the ESC minutes I had a look at last week and today's minutes and it seems like Michael Meeks is already implementing his proposal, transposed mostly by copy/paste by Kendy in his own proposal (which BTW hasn't been renamed yet), with some unexplained urgency and without anyone informing the board. That just reinforced my belief, shared apparently also by Andreas, that a body in which third party companies seem to be able to impose their will should not direct TDF's employees in any way at all. I've asked the board to evaluate the situation to see if further actions should be taken. Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Please take personal conflict off-list (was: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF)
Dear list, Kendy & Andreas, let me repeat my earlier request to keep the interaction on this list friendly and productive. In particular, don't offend, and try not to be offended. This part of the thread is not making progress towards coming up with a final, merged proposal for in-house developers. Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature
