Re: Religion poll
At 11:35 PM Monday 9/25/2006, pencimen wrote: David Hobby wrote: > > Type "A" is authoritarian, metes out punishment, and is highly > > involved in world and personal affairs (the view of about 31 > > percent). > > > > Type "B" is benevolent, also active in the world and individual > > lives, but more forgiving (23 percent). > > > > Type "C" is critical, not engaged but still passing judgment - which > > individuals will discover in a later life (16 percent). > > > > Type "D" is distant, neither active nor judging - but a force which set the laws of nature in motion (about 24 percent). How about type E, the Marty Feldman look-alike with a magnifying glass and various insidious impliments (borrowed from the Bush administration no doubt) and taking great delight in making as many of us as miserable as possible. So what one-word-description-beginning-with-the-letter-"E" do you suggest that type be called? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Religion poll
David Hobby wrote: > > Type "A" is authoritarian, metes out punishment, and is highly > > involved in world and personal affairs (the view of about 31 > > percent). > > > > Type "B" is benevolent, also active in the world and individual > > lives, but more forgiving (23 percent). > > > > Type "C" is critical, not engaged but still passing judgment - which > > individuals will discover in a later life (16 percent). > > > > Type "D" is distant, neither active nor judging - but a force which set the laws of nature in motion (about 24 percent). How about type E, the Marty Feldman look-alike with a magnifying glass and various insidious impliments (borrowed from the Bush administration no doubt) and taking great delight in making as many of us as miserable as possible. Doug Whose email is broke ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What plans???
On 9/25/2006 5:44:39 PM, Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On 9/25/06, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Iraq will not sink the US. > > We're sure as heck stuck in it. > Well.. I understand why most people would say that. But in fact we could leave any time we wanted to. if we possessed the "will" to do so. The fact that we are still there and likely to remain for a good while tells me that we are concerned more with how we look to the rest of the world and more importantly how we would view ourselves if we did indeed leave after creating (to a great degree the situation there is result of our actions) a very messy situation. To clarify my remark that you respond to, Iraq will not cause the downfall of the US. But because we disdain having anything less than the most positive self-image, we will continue to tell ourselves (in our weird national dialogue/monologue via the unique American metaconsciousness) that great gobs of tar are the merest of smudges, and if anyone gives notice of our La Brea coif we will point out the stains remaining from their own historical tarbaby encounters. (I often wonder if our national metaconsciousness is incapable of appreciating irony) xponent Brer Rabbit Revels Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Oy.
At 08:45 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:37 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Victoria's Secret is selling "Uplift Jeans". Do they make your species a more advanced life form? And how many millennia must your species serve Victoria for them? If "more advanced" is equivalent to "having one's butt held up", then yes. Otherwise, no. And I'm not sure how much service $88 takes. :) Wrong Type Of Genes Maru -- Ronn! :) Yup. I got all kinds of DNA here, but I'm not sure I'm shaped right for those denim items. :) (I've still got swelling and tenderness and stuff, so they would hurt, and wouldn't fit in a month. I'm going to order a couple of tops from them, but that's going to be it for awhile.) Oh, and in the print catalog, some of the catalog pictures had the pink arrow stuff on the actual picture, which confused me at first. :P I don't want pink arrows around my butt! Perhaps those are intended for wearers who cannot find their [deleted} with both hands and a road map . . . You Are Here Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Oy.
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:37 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Victoria's Secret is selling "Uplift Jeans". Do they make your species a more advanced life form? And how many millennia must your species serve Victoria for them? If "more advanced" is equivalent to "having one's butt held up", then yes. Otherwise, no. And I'm not sure how much service $88 takes. :) Wrong Type Of Genes Maru -- Ronn! :) Yup. I got all kinds of DNA here, but I'm not sure I'm shaped right for those denim items. :) (I've still got swelling and tenderness and stuff, so they would hurt, and wouldn't fit in a month. I'm going to order a couple of tops from them, but that's going to be it for awhile.) Oh, and in the print catalog, some of the catalog pictures had the pink arrow stuff on the actual picture, which confused me at first. :P I don't want pink arrows around my butt! Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:25 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: The one stuck in my head now is by Lyle Lovett. ??? No Bells Ringing Maru If I Had a Boat. http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/lovett-lyle/if-i-had-a-boat-872.html If I had a boat I'd go out on the ocean And if I had a pony I'd ride him on my boat And we could all together Go out on the ocean Me upon my pony on my boat If I were Roy Rogers I'd sure enough be single I couldn't bring myself to marrying old Dale It'd just be me and trigger We'd go riding through them movies Then we'd buy a boat and on the sea we'd sail And if I had a boat I'd go out on the ocean And if I had a pony I'd ride him on my boat And we could all together Go out on the ocean Me upon my pony on my boat The mystery masked man was smart He got himself a Tonto 'Cause Tonto did the dirty work for free But Tonto he was smarter And one day said kemo sabe Kiss my ass I bought a boat I'm going out to sea And if I had a boat I'd go out on the ocean And if I had a pony I'd ride him on my boat And we could all together Go out on the ocean Me upon my pony on my boat And if I were like lightning I wouldn't need no sneakers I'd come and go wherever I would please And I'd scare 'em by the shade tree And I'd scare 'em by the light pole But I would not scare my pony on my boat out on the sea And if I had a boat I'd go out on the ocean And if I had a pony I'd ride him on my boat And we could all together Go out on the ocean Me upon my pony on my boat My favorite line is the one Tonto delivered. :) (My favorite line in The Grateful Dead's "Candyman" is "If I had me a shotgun I'd blow you straight to hell", just for a reference point) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Oy.
At 08:37 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Victoria's Secret is selling "Uplift Jeans". Do they make your species a more advanced life form? And how many millennia must your species serve Victoria for them? Wrong Type Of Genes Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Oy.
Victoria's Secret is selling "Uplift Jeans". http://www2.victoriassecret.com/collection/?cgname=OSCLOUPLZZZ&cgnbr=OSCLOUPLZZZ&rfnbr=3097 http://tinyurl.com/hxc82 (It's probably SFW, but I'm not promising it is) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
At 08:25 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: -Did that last make you think of a song? Michael Martin Murphy's "Wildfire"? Trading One Earworm For Another Maru I don't know that song. She comes down from Yellow Mountain On a dark, flat land she rides On a pony she named Wildfire With a whirlwind by her side On a cold Nebraska night Oh, they say she died one winter When there came a killing frost And the pony she named Wildfire Busted down its stall In a blizzard he was lost She ran calling Wildfire [x3] By the dark of the moon I planted But there came an early snow There's been a hoot-owl howling by my window now For six nights in a row She's coming for me, I know And on Wildfire we're both gonna go We'll be riding Wildfire [x3] On Wildfire we're gonna ride Gonna leave sodbustin' behind Get these hard times right on out of our minds Riding Wildfire (Note that "Wildfire" is sung as thought it contained about seventeen syllables . . . ) The one stuck in my head now is by Lyle Lovett. ??? No Bells Ringing Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: -Did that last make you think of a song? Michael Martin Murphy's "Wildfire"? Trading One Earworm For Another Maru I don't know that song. The one stuck in my head now is by Lyle Lovett. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
Dave Land wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I said it. Now what? Do I get a pony? -Do you want a pony? Not really, but thanks. -Why do you want a pony, instead of, say, a puppy? A kitty would be preferable to either, given that we live in a very, very, very fine house, with two cats in the yard (offered as a cure to your earworm). -Will you be able to ride said pony? I rather doubt it, at least not to the satisfaction of someone with your horsey credibility. -Did that last make you think of a song? Thankfully, no. Dave You know, it didn't on the original post, but now I have this song stuck in my head -- something about riding a pony on a boat. I'll share my favorite line from that song upon request. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
At 07:51 PM Monday 9/25/2006, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I said it. Now what? Do I get a pony? -Do you want a pony? Not really, but thanks. -Why do you want a pony, instead of, say, a puppy? A kitty would be preferable to either, given that we live in a very, very, very fine house, with two cats in the yard (offered as a cure to your earworm). I have that beat atm: I have one cat in my lap . . . (And I suspect that a pony would require a much larger litter box . . . ) -Will you be able to ride said pony? I rather doubt it, at least not to the satisfaction of someone with your horsey credibility. -Did that last make you think of a song? Michael Martin Murphy's "Wildfire"? Trading One Earworm For Another Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I said it. Now what? Do I get a pony? -Do you want a pony? Not really, but thanks. -Why do you want a pony, instead of, say, a puppy? A kitty would be preferable to either, given that we live in a very, very, very fine house, with two cats in the yard (offered as a cure to your earworm). -Will you be able to ride said pony? I rather doubt it, at least not to the satisfaction of someone with your horsey credibility. -Did that last make you think of a song? Thankfully, no. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What plans???
On 9/25/06, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Iraq will not sink the US. We're sure as heck stuck in it. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Religion poll
At 02:57 PM Monday 9/25/2006, David Hobby wrote: Pretty much a ghostpost here, but I like the "four views of god" bit. (Particularly if they were actually found as clusters in the responses to the poll, rather than having been pulled out of the researchers' hats.) The fact that they are described by words which begin with "A", "B", "C", and "D" like the choices in a multiple-choice test made me suspicious the first time I saw the results of the poll a week or two ago on another list . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Morality of Killing Babies
Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/09/2006, at 7:16 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Probably you haven't asked the right person. I base my ethical decisions on my ability to empathize. If I know a given action would cause me misery, I know that it's an action I shouldn't perpetrate upon another. ...unless you've asked first. While "do unto others" is a reasonable first approximation, it can also be arrogance to assume that what we want is what others want. But it's a starting point. On that note, I recommend http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=17 Important excerpt: The Platinum Rule is: Do unto others as they would have you do unto them. Does that also apply to mega-hot schoolteachers in their 20s and their fourteen-year-old students? Just tossing in a monkey-wrench. ;) I think anything illegal is probably a bad idea, if for no other reason than you might get caught and what will happen as a result probably isn't something YOU want to have done unto you. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What plans???
- Original Message - From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: What plans??? > In one of the Democratic party's regular mass mailings, from Howard > Dean today, I read this: > > "You know that Democrats have a real plan for destroying Osama bin > Laden and al Qaeda, fixing the mess in Iraq, and really securing us > at > home." > > WTF? > > I don't know that at all. Where is this plan? Anybody seen it? > Anybody who claims to have a plan to "fix the mess in Iraq" is > automatically suspect, as far as I'm concerned. It ain't fixable. > As > Donald Rumsfeld predicted, it is a quagmire. (Yeah, Rumsfeld. > Years > earlier, when somebody suggested we invade.) I've said this before, but it bears repeating I believe. The situation in Iraq is not a quagmire. It is a "Tarbaby" Iraq will not sink the US. But involvement in Iraq will stick to anyone who gets their hands in it and the stains will stay on us for a long time. It will take a lot, a whole lot of cleaning to to remove *most* of those stains, but removing all those stains will take a lot of work and a lot of time. And until the stains are removed anyone involved closely with us is likely to get a bit on them too. xponent Uncle Remus Reputations Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
> Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I said it. Now what? Do I get a pony? -Do you want a pony? -Why do you want a pony, instead of, say, a puppy? -Will you be able to ride said pony? -Did that last make you think of a song? Debbi Earworms Are Evil And Must Be Eliminated* Maru ;) *30 grams a day! ';) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Fertility Gap
OK, since I'm feeling a bit snarky: Is this one reason for a fertility gap between Dems and Reps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spencer_(politician) "...Spencer is married to Kathy Spring, his third wife. They have three children together, two of whom were born while Spencer was married to his second wife and while Spring was serving as Spencer's mayoral chief of staff. Spring's annual salary, which started at $52,000, increased to $138,000 by the time she and Spencer both left office. Spencer did not publicly acknowledge the affair until 2002..." Or could it be that the Dems need a new mascot? After all, mules don't reproduce, while elephants do (albeit slowly). Debbi A Pox On Both Houses! Maru;) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Religion poll
Pretty much a ghostpost here, but I like the "four views of god" bit. (Particularly if they were actually found as clusters in the responses to the poll, rather than having been pulled out of the researchers' hats.) ---David No wonder no one agrees, Maru Commentary The Monitor's View from the September 25, 2006 edition Americans and the God question The Monitor's View "In God we trust"... but what kind of God? Most Americans (85 to 90 percent) believe in God. A large majority prays and almost half attend church or other services at least monthly. But how do they view God, and does it affect social and political attitudes? A new survey from Baylor University in Waco, Texas, called "American Piety in the 21st Century" probes this subject. Conducted by Gallup pollsters, the survey is receiving deserved praise for its depth of questioning. While some critics point to a degree of bias - Baylor is a Baptist university - religion pollsters say the survey is generally sound and especially revealing about people's concept of deity. The use of religion in politics has helped drive polling on faith. But understanding how Americans think about God is also important in gauging how they approach the moral issues of the day, and how they relate to each other. The most innovative aspect of the Baylor study is how its questions turned up four ways in which people conceive of deity. The survey offered 16 words to characterize God, such as motherly, wrathful, and severe. It supplied 10 descriptions relating to God's involvement in the world, including "a cosmic force in the universe," "removed from world affairs," and "concerned with my personal well-being." About 5 percent of the 1,721 respondents were atheists, but the rest had a view of God that fit one of four basic "types": Type "A" is authoritarian, metes out punishment, and is highly involved in world and personal affairs (the view of about 31 percent). Type "B" is benevolent, also active in the world and individual lives, but more forgiving (23 percent). Type "C" is critical, not engaged but still passing judgment - which individuals will discover in a later life (16 percent). Type "D" is distant, neither active nor judging - but a force which set the laws of nature in motion (about 24 percent). The study found that even people within the same denomination hold different concepts of God - which may explain schisms over dogma. Evangelicals and black Protestants, however, hold the most uniform views (a majority sees God as authoritarian). It also found that the "four Gods" track more closely with political and social attitudes than do traditional indicators such as church attendance. The study found, for instance, that the closer one moves toward the authoritarian model, the more likely one finds abortion and gay marriage are "always wrong." Baylor plans more such surveys, and there's still much to plumb. Some religion experts, for instance, suspect a certain superficiality in Americans' religiosity. How might they weigh in on the import of the Sermon on the Mount or the Ten Commandments? And then there's the growth in nontraditional and nonJudeo-Christian faiths, especially among young people. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Quantum Leakage (was: 9/11 conspiracies)
> Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 25/09/2006, at 9:31 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > >> On 24 Sep 2006 at 10:55, Charlie Bell wrote: > >> Very cool indeed. Mysteries are what science is > all about. > > > > Even when the suggestions are as..odd..as the one > from m-theory that > > our universe has no inherent gravity, it gets it > via leakage from > > another universe "nearby" in m-space, hence why > it's so weak... > > Yeah, or dark matter which is more and more weird > the more I > understand it. Still, doesn't matter how weird it is > as long as it works... I think you guys have stumbled upon why the brain is *not* the source of our thoughts: they are leaking from another brane! Debbi Obviously Silliputtied Maru:D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: 9/11 conspiracies - in triplicate?!
I swear - or strongly proclaim - that I only hit the Send key *once*... Debbi who, you will note, has absolutely *nothing* to contribute to the discussion on computer programming and languages...except that a few FORTRAN cards are probably still in a box of college memorabilia, along with truly extravagant essays from her Humanities classes ;) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
What plans???
In one of the Democratic party's regular mass mailings, from Howard Dean today, I read this: "You know that Democrats have a real plan for destroying Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, fixing the mess in Iraq, and really securing us at home." WTF? I don't know that at all. Where is this plan? Anybody seen it? Anybody who claims to have a plan to "fix the mess in Iraq" is automatically suspect, as far as I'm concerned. It ain't fixable. As Donald Rumsfeld predicted, it is a quagmire. (Yeah, Rumsfeld. Years earlier, when somebody suggested we invade.) According to the Council on Foreign Relations, the Demos have a number of plans: http://www.cfr.org/publication/11465/ And this is better than "stay the course?" Would some real leaders please rise up? Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > > Assuming that a large number of people can't be > wrong about something > > because they are smart and well-connected is a > tautology. > > I think that you are still missing the point, so let > me try it again. Let > me start with one example: Gautam's dad. He's a > structural engineer. I > think it is fair to say that one of the first > instincts that a technical > person like him or myself when faced with something > like this is trying to > understand it. In particular, when one's own area > of expertise is involved, > using that expertise to understand is all but > instinctive. I have absolutely no experience in structural engineering, so have not comented on this thread, but I'm just going to toss out one medical example of well-educated folk in the field being wrong: _Helicobactor pylori_ infection and relation to peptic ulcer disease. One researcher (from Australia, IIRC) posited and studied this; the vast majority of gastroenterologists disagreed completely -- until it was finally shown to be true. Took years. My personal experience has been that my 'medical gut feelings' are correct better than 90% of the time, even when specialists' opinions do not concur. My gut about this administration is that it spins 'truth' like a top, and is utterly untrustworthy. About the towers, I really don't know; about cabals within our government manufacturing crises: Gulf of Tonkin(g?). Debbi who has much List-catching-up to do __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > > Assuming that a large number of people can't be > wrong about something > > because they are smart and well-connected is a > tautology. > > I think that you are still missing the point, so let > me try it again. Let > me start with one example: Gautam's dad. He's a > structural engineer. I > think it is fair to say that one of the first > instincts that a technical > person like him or myself when faced with something > like this is trying to > understand it. In particular, when one's own area > of expertise is involved, > using that expertise to understand is all but > instinctive. I have absolutely no experience in structural engineering, so have not comented on this thread, but I'm just going to toss out one medical example of well-educated folk in the field being wrong: _Helicobactor pylori_ infection and relation to peptic ulcer disease. One researcher (from Australia, IIRC) posited and studied this; the vast majority of gastroenterologists disagreed completely -- until it was finally shown to be true. Took years. My personal experience has been that my 'medical gut feelings' are correct better than 90% of the time, even when specialists' opinions do not concur. My gut about this administration is that it spins 'truth' like a top, and is utterly untrustworthy. About the towers, I really don't know; about cabals within our government manufacturing crises: Gulf of Tonkin(g?). Debbi who has much List-catching-up to do __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > > Assuming that a large number of people can't be > wrong about something > > because they are smart and well-connected is a > tautology. > > I think that you are still missing the point, so let > me try it again. Let > me start with one example: Gautam's dad. He's a > structural engineer. I > think it is fair to say that one of the first > instincts that a technical > person like him or myself when faced with something > like this is trying to > understand it. In particular, when one's own area > of expertise is involved, > using that expertise to understand is all but > instinctive. I have absolutely no experience in structural engineering, so have not comented on this thread, but I'm just going to toss out one medical example of well-educated folk in the field being wrong: _Helicobactor pylori_ infection and relation to peptic ulcer disease. One researcher (from Australia, IIRC) posited and studied this; the vast majority of gastroenterologists disagreed completely -- until it was finally shown to be true. Took years. My personal experience has been that my 'medical gut feelings' are correct better than 90% of the time, even when specialists' opinions do not concur. My gut about this administration is that it spins 'truth' like a top, and is utterly untrustworthy. About the towers, I really don't know; about cabals within our government manufacturing crises: Gulf of Tonkin(g?). Debbi who has much List-catching-up to do __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Although my interest in football has diminished greatly since the good ol' days when the Steelers kept winning the Superbowl (wait, didn't that happen again recently?) and I was in college with Tony Dorsett and Danny Marino... and then the 49ers dominated... here's something some of you might find interesting -- Liberty Mutual's new Coach of the Year site with discussion forums. http://forums.coachoftheyear.com/index.jspa Say, the company where Dave and I work does discussion forums... OK, I said it. Now what? Do I get a pony? Dave Obligatory Second Line Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 2 NFL Picks
Although my interest in football has diminished greatly since the good ol' days when the Steelers kept winning the Superbowl (wait, didn't that happen again recently?) and I was in college with Tony Dorsett and Danny Marino... and then the 49ers dominated... here's something some of you might find interesting -- Liberty Mutual's new Coach of the Year site with discussion forums. http://forums.coachoftheyear.com/index.jspa Say, the company where Dave and I work does discussion forums... Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:32 AM Thursday 9/21/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:24 PM Monday 9/11/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Nonesense. Why do the puppetmasters pushing suicide bombers have less to lose than the soviet aparatchniks did? 'Cuz "a cave somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan" is harder to program into the nav system of a cruise missile than the GPS coordinates for "the men's room window of the Kremlin"? Is it starve a cold and feed a fever, or other way around? And if you have a cold _with_ fever, should you binge and purge? Not as funny as the one that stopped me last night. :) Sturgeon may be gone, but his law lives on. Yup. And the great ones being rare helps you appreciate them. (And again I hope you are feeling better today than yesterday and keep improving . . . ) In either case, if you're not a vegetarian, chicken broth is decent stuff. And if you are a humanitarian? Or a veterinarian? Having chunks of chicken, plus other stuff such as rice or noodles or various vegetables isn't a bad thing. OTOH with some chunky soups it can be hard to tell if this is the first or second intake pass . . . (I think the "starve a fever" went out at some point; I didn't write that. I was just trying for a response to it. And at the time I realized that it wasn't one of my best ones. if you're sick, eat what you can to keep up your strength. If you're having gastrointestinal issues, try just a BRAT diet Ice cream, candy, soda, and pizza? Or anything with enough sugar to turn a normally well-behaved kid into a BRAT? Bananas, Rice, Applesauce, Toast. until you're doing better. If you're vomiting, be very easy on your stomach, F'r instance, don't read list mail? Well, technically, it's not my stomach that's having the problem, it's my abs. :) But if you're vomiting a lot, you may be too cranky to read listmail anyway. and if the vomiting doesn't start getting better before you're approaching problematic dehydration, get some meds for it. I personally like promethazine; in an IV, it puts me out fairly soundly, and if I'm in a situation where I'm already on an IV, sleeping probably is beneficial. Yeah, but your recent experience is hopefully relatively rare. I have been on an IV like that 3 times in my life. All in the same hospital, at that. The really weird thing was, this was the first non-birth stay in the hospital, and after the surgery they ended up putting me in the postpartum ward, because there weren't enough beds available in the post-surgery ward. Just like old times. :) (With Sam's birth, I did not have Phenergan through the IV at any time. The other two hospital visits, I did. I'm OK with an epidural, but any other sort of anesthesia given to me in the hospital has upset my stomach rather badly. I didn't need the Phenergan for my stomach as much as needing it to sleep this time, because the milder stuff actually worked this time.) Sure beats freaking out because someone has messed with the carefully-arranged lighting arrangement Frex, brought their million-candlepower flashlight to a night lab or star-gazing session . . . Yup. I think at that point, you confiscate the flashlight, shine it in the offender's eyes, and try to make sure they don't fall off the roof before their eyes get dark-adapted again. and walked out again before you can say anything.) Julia Maru? Maru -- Ronn! :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: unholy OS wars
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:07 PM Wednesday 9/20/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:49 AM Monday 9/11/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote: [...] do you let the programmers self-test in a vacuum If so, you probably go through a _lot_ of testers that way. And you have to wonder about the reports they gasp out in the last stages of hypoxia. Dammit, Ronn!, I can't read anymore listmail tonight. You made me laugh. Aren't you the one who warns others about the dangers of drinking anything while reading list mail? Yup. And that hurts right now! Sorry. I hope you didn't pull anything loose. And I do hope you heal soon. Nothing pulled loose. Just some pain. :) It's getting a little bit better. And laughing is a lot more pleasant than coughing. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
