Re: Is taxation ever justified, was: DeLong on health insurance reform
John Williams wrote: ... John-- At the moment, it's not clear to me that you HAVE any coherent views on the legitimacy of taxation. If you do, feel free to outline them. It seems that whenever I press you for details on this kind of thing, you get vague. Can you do better than "taxation is O.K. as long as government is small"? Getting worse. Care to try again? No. It's basically "put up, or shut up". And it's arrogant on your part to keep asking others to dredge through the archives for your earlier posts. ---David ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is taxation ever justified, was: DeLong on health insurance reform
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM, David Hobby wrote: > John Williams wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Hobby wrote: >>> >>> here's a new thread, as per your request. >>> >>> I don't really see why a new thread is justified, >>> since this seems to get at something you've said >>> repeatedly in the old thread. You claim that >>> spending taxes on health care is "taking your >>> money from you by force", or somesuch. Why make >>> such an inflammatory claim, when that is what >>> ALL taxes do? >> >> That is not a way to frame a discussion that makes me want to >> participate. I'm not being coy -- I just don't see that we will make >> any progress in understanding each other's views when you start a >> discussion that way. > > John-- > > At the moment, it's not clear to me that you HAVE any > coherent views on the legitimacy of taxation. If you > do, feel free to outline them. > > It seems that whenever I press you for details on > this kind of thing, you get vague. Can you do better > than "taxation is O.K. as long as government is small"? Getting worse. Care to try again? ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is taxation ever justified, was: DeLong on health insurance reform
John Williams wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Hobby wrote: here's a new thread, as per your request. I don't really see why a new thread is justified, since this seems to get at something you've said repeatedly in the old thread. You claim that spending taxes on health care is "taking your money from you by force", or somesuch. Why make such an inflammatory claim, when that is what ALL taxes do? That is not a way to frame a discussion that makes me want to participate. I'm not being coy -- I just don't see that we will make any progress in understanding each other's views when you start a discussion that way. John-- At the moment, it's not clear to me that you HAVE any coherent views on the legitimacy of taxation. If you do, feel free to outline them. It seems that whenever I press you for details on this kind of thing, you get vague. Can you do better than "taxation is O.K. as long as government is small"? ---David ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is taxation ever justified, was: DeLong on health insurance reform
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM, David Hobby wrote: >here's a new thread, as per your request. > > I don't really see why a new thread is justified, > since this seems to get at something you've said > repeatedly in the old thread. You claim that > spending taxes on health care is "taking your > money from you by force", or somesuch. Why make > such an inflammatory claim, when that is what > ALL taxes do? That is not a way to frame a discussion that makes me want to participate. I'm not being coy -- I just don't see that we will make any progress in understanding each other's views when you start a discussion that way. ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Is taxation ever justified, was: DeLong on health insurance reform
John Williams wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM, David Hobby wrote: John Williams wrote: I don't get this. You recently wrote: No, I do not propose that the US should abolish all taxes, and I have written that here before. So some taxes are O.K.? But I imagine that some of the people paying those taxes would rather not have "their" money spent on items paid for with those taxes. So can't they always make the same complaint you did above? Help me out? When do you believe taxation is justified? Once again I am asked something that I have already answered, and yet others say my posts are repetitive. If you really want to discuss this again, please start a new thread and ask me again. John-- O.K., here's a new thread, as per your request. I don't really see why a new thread is justified, since this seems to get at something you've said repeatedly in the old thread. You claim that spending taxes on health care is "taking your money from you by force", or somesuch. Why make such an inflammatory claim, when that is what ALL taxes do? ---David ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
