Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} Don't tempt me. :) Julia off alcohol for awhile When I was still nursing Tom, I used to drink one or two glasses of dark ale a day (Heineken* dark that is). It was very soothing and since there are a lot of sugars in it, it was also very nourishing. I wouldn't have thought of it myself but the midwife highly recommended it... grin. My mom was given similar advice while nursing me. So was the mother of a friend of mine. But these days in the US they're saying no alcohol. One reason, I think, is that alcohol is mildly dehydrating and dehydration is the last thing you need while you're making milk. I'll probably go back to the occasional drink sooner this time around. I would *really* like a good margarita. Maybe in January. * Yeah shoot me. I voluntarily drank Heineken and I liked it. But only the dark ale, their pilsener you can keep. Darker beers are better, IMO. (So, please don't offer me a Corona, OK, folks?) I think they also have more of the stuff that's in beer that's good for you, as well. (IIRC some of those things are antioxidants) Julia but Chuck drank the last Shiner Bock and all we have now is the stuff my mom bought when she was here, which *isn't* dark, so I won't be tempted by the beer in the fridge ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} Don't tempt me. :) Julia off alcohol for awhile When I was still nursing Tom, I used to drink one or two glasses of dark ale a day (Heineken* dark that is). It was very soothing and since there are a lot of sugars in it, it was also very nourishing. I wouldn't have thought of it myself but the midwife highly recommended it... grin. * Yeah shoot me. I voluntarily drank Heineken and I liked it. But only the dark ale, their pilsener you can keep. Sonja :o) GCU: Bottoms up xGCU: Duvel still is my favourite www.duvel.be http://www.duvel.be ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:29:10PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: Have you ever met anyone who makes hot chocolate without SOME form of milk? Whole, 2%, skim, dry milk, something besides water? Darn ivory tower research! :-) I tried it once, actually. I managed to drink half the mug's worth I'd made. I don't recommend it, but if anyone wants to find out first-hand just why I wouldn't recommend it, go ahead, and then report back to us. :) I'll stand on your research, thank you! Actually, I was thinking after I posted it that maybe some Atkin's diet people may do it. Too many carbs in milk, you know. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:29:10PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: Have you ever met anyone who makes hot chocolate without SOME form of milk? Whole, 2%, skim, dry milk, something besides water? Darn ivory tower research! :-) I tried it once, actually. I managed to drink half the mug's worth I'd made. I don't recommend it, but if anyone wants to find out first-hand just why I wouldn't recommend it, go ahead, and then report back to us. :) I'll stand on your research, thank you! Actually, I was thinking after I posted it that maybe some Atkin's diet people may do it. Too many carbs in milk, you know. But they might use heavy whipping cream, more fat, fewer carbs. :) Then again, hot cocoa tends to be sweetened with sugar. Unless they got the diet version using an artificial sweetener, there would be all those sugar carbs. Wonder if the trick of using vanilla extract to sweeten the whipping cream instead of sugar (which is a trick I use if I'm actually buying cream and whipping it myself, as opposed to buying Redi-whip) would work on that? Julia mind (at least, what's left of it) wandering... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
At 07:49 PM 11/14/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} Don't tempt me. :) Julia off alcohol for awhile Well, you can always take some fresh mint leaves and pulp them in a mortar (of the and pestle kind, Shopping list: Mint leaves, fresh. New mortar and pestle that hasn't been used for years of chemistry experiments. *not* ordnance! ... or brick cement, or an academic hat ... ), and add _that_ to your cocoa. With a dash of cream, it'd be sort of a 'liquid York Peppermint Patty.' :) But what would Charlie Brown say? The Ski Lodges Are Opening Up Maru Funny, the people down here are putting their ski boats away . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snip http://www.brightsurf.com/news/nov_03/ACS_news_110603.php ...The beverages tested included a cup of hot water containing two tablespoons of pure cocoa powder, Have you ever met anyone who makes hot chocolate without SOME form of milk? Whole, 2%, skim, dry milk, something besides water? Darn ivory tower research! :-) Note that there was no milk in the tested liquid; there has been some research suggesting that milk proteins might reduce the bioavailability of tea antioxidants, so it is possible that the same holds for cocoa antioxidants. I think I can live with that. :) I think I get it, in parallel with Hollywood producers and movies, these guys want to squeeze as many publications as possible out of their hot chocolate idea. Next, for the sequel paper, what is the difference in health benefits between milkless hot chocolate and hot chocolate made with milk? Yep! And don't forget the following paper, on 'soymilk cocoa,' and then one on cold chocolate milk vs. hot cocoa, and of course one about hot cocoa with Kahlua vs. with Drambuie... ;} Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 05:45:01PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: Researchers at Cornell University have shown that the popular winter beverage contains more antioxidants per cup than a similar serving of red wine or tea and may be a healthier choice...Their study, which they say is the most complete comparison to date of the total antioxidant content of these three popular beverages, will appear in the Dec. 3 issue of the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Chemical Society, the world's largest scientific societyThe beverages tested included a cup of hot water containing two tablespoons of pure cocoa powder, Have you ever met anyone who makes hot chocolate without SOME form of milk? Whole, 2%, skim, dry milk, something besides water? Darn ivory tower research! :-) I tried it once, actually. I managed to drink half the mug's worth I'd made. I don't recommend it, but if anyone wants to find out first-hand just why I wouldn't recommend it, go ahead, and then report back to us. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} Don't tempt me. :) Julia off alcohol for awhile ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} One of my favorite additives for hot chocolate are the marshmallow Peeps that seem to pop up every holiday. Especially the Christmas Peeps. Throw in a couple of Peep snowmen with a little Hershey's chocolate drizzled over them.yum... http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com/ Gary Let's have some hot chocolate Maru. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} Don't tempt me. :) Julia off alcohol for awhile Well, you can always take some fresh mint leaves and pulp them in a mortar (of the and pestle kind, *not* ordnance!), and add _that_ to your cocoa. With a dash of cream, it'd be sort of a 'liquid York Peppermint Patty.' :) The Ski Lodges Are Opening Up Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
At 10:44 PM 11/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} One of my favorite additives for hot chocolate are the marshmallow Peeps that seem to pop up every holiday. Especially the Christmas Peeps. Throw in a couple of Peep snowmen with a little Hershey's chocolate drizzled over them.yum... http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com/ Gary I like to eat Peeps after a nice meal of Philly Cheesesteak and Rolling Rock beer. Kevin T. - VRWC Remember: look for the PA label on everything you buy. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} One of my favorite additives for hot chocolate are the marshmallow Peeps that seem to pop up every holiday. Especially the Christmas Peeps. Throw in a couple of Peep snowmen with a little Hershey's chocolate drizzled over them.yum... http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com/ grin What _is_ it about Peeps, anyway?! There are lots of sites devoted to them; I particularly enjoyed the ones researching 'Peeps under extreme conditions' (previously posted). And of course, Lord of the Peeps was someone's loving tribute to the puffy confections...or else the herald to full-blown psychosis. ;) Debbi Hot-Tubbing Peeps In Mount Doom Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
