Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Kevin Tarr


 Not a fun experience.  Though I did read an article a few weeks ago that
 said that brown recluses might not be as deadly as is commonly thought.

If anyone wants to play with black widows, visit our area.  When we first
moved in, there was an old Dogloo doghouse out back.  I flipped it on its
side to roll it to the side of the house and backed off very, very fast
because there were so many crawly things under it.  What I saw were some
kind of water bugs... and *then* I saw the dozen or so black widows.  Now we
are vey careful about reaching into dark spaces, such as the sprinkler
system valves.

Just saw the new H. Potter movie and spiders are on my mind.

Nick



Yet another reason that any move I make will be farther north. I can take 
snow and ice and polar bears, but spiders and snakes and other bugs the 
size of your hand forget it.

Kevin T.
Was in New Orleans at three in the morning and the sidewalk was covered 
with huge bugs, may have been roaches. I was not drunk.

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Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Jon Gabriel





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Subject: Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:28:46 -0500



 Not a fun experience.  Though I did read an article a few weeks ago 
that
 said that brown recluses might not be as deadly as is commonly thought.

If anyone wants to play with black widows, visit our area.  When we first
moved in, there was an old Dogloo doghouse out back.  I flipped it on 
its
side to roll it to the side of the house and backed off very, very fast
because there were so many crawly things under it.  What I saw were some
kind of water bugs... and *then* I saw the dozen or so black widows.  Now 
we
are vey careful about reaching into dark spaces, such as the sprinkler
system valves.

Just saw the new H. Potter movie and spiders are on my mind.

Nick


Yet another reason that any move I make will be farther north. I can take 
snow and ice and polar bears, but spiders and snakes and other bugs the 
size of your hand forget it.

Kevin T.
Was in New Orleans at three in the morning and the sidewalk was covered 
with huge bugs, may have been roaches. I was not drunk.


*shudder*

Ugh.  Yuck.  Awful.

If there are brown recluse spiders in my area, they have thus far not 
introduced themselves.  The worst problems that I'm aware of other people in 
NYC having are roaches and rats.  I run a vermin-free home and have to date 
avoided taking any on as unwanted roommates.

The NYC subway system is infested with rodents, but they do tend to leave 
people alone and stick to living in and amongst the tracks.

I now have this mental image of a freakishly huge brown recluse spider with 
fangs as long as your arm etc.  Just how large do they get?
Jon
*Twitch* Is Right, Maru

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RE: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Horn, John
 From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 I now have this mental image of a freakishly huge brown 
 recluse spider with 
 fangs as long as your arm etc.  Just how large do they get?

Generally not that big.  Most of the ones we saw were usually about the size
of a quarter or so with legs fully extended.  A few smaller.  A few bigger.
I think the biggest one I ever saw was about 3 inches across.  That one came
inside after a huge rainstorm had flooded the lawn in front of our
apartment.  It came under the front door somehow and walked down the hallway
like he owned the place.  I thought for just a second about trying to catch
it before hammering him out of existence with a shoe.

The most distinctive thing about the recluse is the violin marking on
their back.  It really does look like one.  And once you see it, there's no
doubt about it.  As a friend said, if you have any doubt that it's a
violin, it's not a recluse.  (I understand there are some spiders in the
recluse family in the southwest that don't have that marking on them...)

 - jmh

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RE: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Nick Arnett
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Kevin Tarr

...

 Yet another reason that any move I make will be farther north. I can take
 snow and ice and polar bears, but spiders and snakes and other bugs the
 size of your hand forget it.

 Kevin T.
 Was in New Orleans at three in the morning and the sidewalk was covered
 with huge bugs, may have been roaches. I was not drunk.

It's not like that here...  You have to go farther south to get the large
quantities and sizes of bugs.  I spent most of a summer in San Diego a few
years ago, at my father-in-law's house.  At night, if you walked on the
sidewalk, you'd feel and hear a crunch, crunch, crunch from the bugs.  Even
further south, at my sister's apartment in St. Thomas, USVI, she used to
check for lizards on the walls when arriving home.  If there were no lizards
on the walls, she'd go get a brave friend to check her apartment for
tarantulas.  She didn't particularly like the lizards, but she certainly
appreciated the implication of their presence!

Nick

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Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 Yet another reason that any move I make will be
 farther north. I can take 
 snow and ice and polar bears, but spiders and snakes
 and other bugs the size of your hand forget it.
 
 Kevin T.
 Was in New Orleans at three in the morning and the
 sidewalk was covered 
 with huge bugs, may have been roaches. I was not
 drunk.

They were roaches, called by some locals 'water bugs.'
 When we lived in Baton Rouge, I remember pulling the
sheet over my head to keep the ones crawling on the
ceiling from dropping onto me.  They can fly, too;
their natural high-rise towers are the water oaks
(hence the moniker, I guess), but in the winter they
find houses more cosy.  Mom used gallons of Raid
before discovering Roach-Pruf, which is boric acid
with an attractant (dessicates the creepies from the
inside out, as they ingest it while grooming).
shudder

Cats Find Them Delightfully Crunchy Maru

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Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 05:11:55PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:

 They were roaches, called by some locals 'water bugs.'  When we lived
 in Baton Rouge, I remember pulling the sheet over my head to keep the
 ones crawling on the ceiling from dropping onto me.  They can fly,
 too; their natural high-rise towers are the water oaks (hence the
 moniker, I guess), but in the winter they find houses more cosy.  Mom
 used gallons of Raid before discovering Roach-Pruf, which is boric
 acid with an attractant (dessicates the creepies from the inside out,
 as they ingest it while grooming). shudder

Have you seen that ad for Expedia, every bed equipped with mosquitoe
nets and the image that invokes in the mind of the lady reading it?


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Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message -
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)


 --- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Yet another reason that any move I make will be
  farther north. I can take
  snow and ice and polar bears, but spiders and snakes
  and other bugs the size of your hand forget it.
 
  Kevin T.
  Was in New Orleans at three in the morning and the
  sidewalk was covered
  with huge bugs, may have been roaches. I was not
  drunk.

 They were roaches, called by some locals 'water bugs.'
  When we lived in Baton Rouge, I remember pulling the
 sheet over my head to keep the ones crawling on the
 ceiling from dropping onto me.  They can fly, too;
 their natural high-rise towers are the water oaks
 (hence the moniker, I guess), but in the winter they
 find houses more cosy.  Mom used gallons of Raid
 before discovering Roach-Pruf, which is boric acid
 with an attractant (dessicates the creepies from the
 inside out, as they ingest it while grooming).
 shudder

 Cats Find Them Delightfully Crunchy Maru

They also breathe the boric acid dust through their spiricules or
what-ever-you-call-them in their legs.
This is the best method I know of to control roaches.

xponent
Master Of Roach Life And Death Maru
rob


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Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-27 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 Have you seen that ad for Expedia, every bed
 equipped with mosquitoe
 nets and the image that invokes in the mind of the
 lady reading it?

No, but I shudder to think on it...and I don't know if
mosquito netting would be noisy as the roaches ran up
and down... Still, we had lots of mosquitoes in
Louisiana, so that netting might not be a bad idea.

Debbi
who is now recalling a horrible PBS program about
roaches, with close-ups and slow-mo and Aauugh! those
gnawing mandibles...

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Re: Spiders (was RE: advice for the lovelorn)

2002-12-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Horn, John
  Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:46 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: advice for the lovelorn
 
 ...
 
  Not a fun experience.  Though I did read an article a few weeks ago that
  said that brown recluses might not be as deadly as is commonly thought.
 
 If anyone wants to play with black widows, visit our area.  When we first
 moved in, there was an old Dogloo doghouse out back.  I flipped it on its
 side to roll it to the side of the house and backed off very, very fast
 because there were so many crawly things under it.  What I saw were some
 kind of water bugs... and *then* I saw the dozen or so black widows.  Now we
 are vey careful about reaching into dark spaces, such as the sprinkler
 system valves.

How about that most delightful of things, black widows in the outhouse?

Julia

who grew up hearing stories of same from the part of her father's
boyhood where they didn't have indoor plumbing in SC
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