Re: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 26, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote:
* Gautam Mukunda [Thu, 21/04/2005 at 08:27 -0700]
The amazing thing about this article is how _blatant_
it is.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1559253,00.html
I would say I'm disgusted of Chirac if I weren't allready on the verge 
of
sickness for so long. Typical of the janus-like Chirac 
the-weather-vane,
trying to satisfy buddies in heavy industry and arm industry. Well, 
what
can I say,  if it isn't already obvious, "normal" people here with a 
brain
and a heart are similarly disgusted.
I can think of a recent event involving a nation we all know but which 
will remain anonymous, wherein the "leadership" decided to do something 
that a significant minority felt was morally or ethically repugnant 
despite any objections that were raised. As events unfolded it became 
increasingly clear that the minority were much more right than anyone 
wanted to believe. Intemperance, however, carried the day, and 
continues to do so in that nation.

It seems to me that no one in that nation has the right to be casting 
any stones at another, and that many from that nation will understand 
your sense of sickened horror at what is perpetrated on your behalf by 
people whom you do not support.

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Re: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Gautam Mukunda [Thu, 21/04/2005 at 08:27 -0700]
> The amazing thing about this article is how _blatant_
> it is.
> 
> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1559253,00.html

I would say I'm disgusted of Chirac if I weren't allready on the verge of
sickness for so long. Typical of the janus-like Chirac the-weather-vane,
trying to satisfy buddies in heavy industry and arm industry. Well, what
can I say,  if it isn't already obvious, "normal" people here with a brain
and a heart are similarly disgusted.




-- 
Jean-Marc
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RE: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Gautam Mukunda wrote
> Subject: France supports unilateralism, preventive war
> 
> The amazing thing about this article is how _blatant_
> it is.
> 
> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1559253,00.html
> 

That's pretty sad isn't it. Nice find :) I can't see in his words where
he actually says he supports preemptive war, but then I have not read
the anti-succession act. Again, it's just a lot of global political
bullshit. Don't think I ever thought that highly of the French. I put
them in the same self interested, greedy, lying manipulative group of
governments as umm, the Italians, the Australians, the Chinese, the
Americans etc etc etc etc etc.

Andrew




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Re: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-21 Thread Dave Land
Gautam,
--- Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it that you think the _article_ is blatant biased towards or 
against
France and/or China), or the willingness of the French Premier to
support China's bombast in exchange for Airbus contracts and the like?
Oh, the latter.  The article never actually spells out the obvious.  I
wonder if the reporter was biting his lit as he wrote it?  But it does
make things pretty clear, doesn't it?
We're certainly in agreement on that point. "Go ahead, Mr. China, kill
your neighbor if you feel you need to, but first, could you sign this
check?" I would imagine that there are some people in France who are
disgusted with it, but there are probably plenty more who see it in a
positive light: The Premier is looking out for French interests while
keeping out of China's internal affairs.
Dave
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Re: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-21 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gautam,
> 
> > The amazing thing about this article is how
> _blatant_ it is.
> 
> Is it that you think the _article_ is blatant
> (biased towards or against
> France and/or China), or the willingness of the
> French Premier to
> support China's bombast in exchange for Airbus
> contracts and the like?
> 
> Dave

Oh, the latter.  The article never actually spells out
the obvious.  I wonder if the reporter was biting his
lit as he wrote it?  But it does make things pretty
clear, doesn't it?



Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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Re: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-21 Thread Dave Land
Gautam,
The amazing thing about this article is how _blatant_ it is.
Is it that you think the _article_ is blatant (biased towards or against
France and/or China), or the willingness of the French Premier to
support China's bombast in exchange for Airbus contracts and the like?
Dave
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