Re: shoelaces, concentration
In a message dated 8/14/2003 9:35:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin wrote: My normal footwear I leave tied all the time, just push down on the back heel and step out. SO I'M NOT CRAZY! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! WOOHOO! (Sorry, I *always* catch flack about the fact that I do the same thing, and it's nice to now be able to say I can *prove* that I'm not the only one :-) Reggie Bautista VBSEG I'm glad to be of help. But comparing yourself with me, to say your are not crazyyou know how tough it is to find tissue boxes in my size? Umwhat's a shoe? Last winter was so warm here in Tucson, I haven't worn a closed shoe since 2001. Socks with sandles, yes. But not a shoe. Both my big toes still have the toenail growing at a slant. I'm not going back to shoes. William Taylor Even when Hugh Downs was hosting it, I've never seen a shoelace as a contestant on Concintration. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jan Coffey wrote: Everyone (not just those with aus etc.) are effected by foods. it's not just autistic kids who get high off of bread. It's just that the autistics are more dialed in, more granular, more sensative. Granular? I'm not sure what you mean by this in this sentence. (On the other hand, it reminded me of a bit of ridiculousness on another mailing list, which was a pleasant thing for me this morning, so some good has come of it, anyway.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Steve Sloan II wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: But seriously, your verb tense there is perfect. Thank you. I don't know about the colored lenses links, but the page about the family with the Aspergers kid was very interesting. I've suspected I might have Aspergers (or however you'd put it) since Michael first mentioned it several years back, and I went to the links he gave. You wouldn't happen to have some of those for me, now would you? This adds more evidence to that, because my ears also turn bright, glowing red the way his do when I eat something my body doesn't agree with. I suspect that one of my legs is getting longer then the other here? Sonja :o) GCU: Puzzled ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: In general it used to be good brin-l practice to deliver information to the list in this form, usually resulting in nuanced replies of informed people who have taken (tense?) Nope, I'm perfectly relaxed. ;-) But seriously, your verb tense there is perfect. the trouble to glance through the material that the original poster pointed to. Additional surprising information can thus be acquired and it is even possible to have a discussion of the subject between polite, enthusiastic and inspired people. Generally broadening the horizon of the members on this list.. I don't know about the colored lenses links, but the page about the family with the Aspergers kid was very interesting. I've suspected I might have Aspergers (or however you'd put it) since Michael first mentioned it several years back, and I went to the links he gave. This adds more evidence to that, because my ears also turn bright, glowing red the way his do when I eat something my body doesn't agree with. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: In general it used to be good brin-l practice to deliver information to the list in this form, usually resulting in nuanced replies of informed people who have taken (tense?) Nope, I'm perfectly relaxed. ;-) But seriously, your verb tense there is perfect. the trouble to glance through the material that the original poster pointed to. Additional surprising information can thus be acquired and it is even possible to have a discussion of the subject between polite, enthusiastic and inspired people. Generally broadening the horizon of the members on this list.. I don't know about the colored lenses links, but the page about the family with the Aspergers kid was very interesting. I've suspected I might have Aspergers (or however you'd put it) since Michael first mentioned it several years back, and I went to the links he gave. This adds more evidence to that, because my ears also turn bright, glowing red the way his do when I eat something my body doesn't agree with. Many people have autistic tendencies. Most smart people do. That desn't mean you have aus. Also, many many people are effected by environmental noise. Wouldn't it be better if we simply change the lighting, noise levels etc. instead of having kids be singled out by weird glasses and hearing aparatus? Everyone (not just those with aus etc.) are effected by foods. it's not just autistic kids who get high off of bread. It's just that the autistics are more dialed in, more granular, more sensative. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: This adds more evidence to that, because my ears also turn bright, glowing red the way his do when I eat something my body doesn't agree with. I suspect that one of my legs is getting longer then the other here? They don't literally *glow*, like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer's nose in that clay animated Christmas special, but they do turn very red, and feel warm to the touch. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sonja van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I knew it was out there. Does that mean your link data base is finally operational? LOL. No, I just happened to save that particular link cause I liked it. Also because I wanted to be able to tie my shoes better. And to know the correct way to teach my kids! Not this weird way they are teaching in schools now... What weir way? Are they teaching the make two loops and tie them together way? That way makes a very loose knot. BTW it is easier for most people to switch from grany to square if you change the way you tie the first overhand instead of the way you loop and follow. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Everyone (not just those with aus etc.) are effected by foods. it's not just autistic kids who get high off of bread. It's just that the autistics are more dialed in, more granular, more sensative. Granular? I'm not sure what you mean by this in this sentence. More detailed or granular sense. I'm not sure what you don't understand. Autistics are often capable of telling much finer differrences. The idea is that such people might have dificulty teling the difference between stemuli at a larger granularity becouse their sweet spot is gaged much finer. If most people could not see green and but you could, you would have a more granular sense than they. You might also have difficulty nameing which colour yellowish blue or bluish yellow is. Although if you get very specific this example is not consistent with the way humans see colour, it is the simplest way to describe the consept. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And to know the correct way to teach my kids! Not this weird way they are teaching in schools now... What weir way? Are they teaching the make two loops and tie them together way? That way makes a very loose knot. That's it. It definitely doesn't stay very well or for very long. Don't know when my daughter will transition to real knots! A few years ago I tought my wife (and the rest of her family) to tie a loop and follow square knot. They actualy didn't ~like~ laced shoes becouse of the shaby knot they were using. Teach her now. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jan Coffey wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Everyone (not just those with aus etc.) are effected by foods. it's not just autistic kids who get high off of bread. It's just that the autistics are more dialed in, more granular, more sensative. Granular? I'm not sure what you mean by this in this sentence. More detailed or granular sense. I'm not sure what you don't understand. Autistics are often capable of telling much finer differrences. The idea is that such people might have dificulty teling the difference between stemuli at a larger granularity becouse their sweet spot is gaged much finer. If most people could not see green and but you could, you would have a more granular sense than they. You might also have difficulty nameing which colour yellowish blue or bluish yellow is. Although if you get very specific this example is not consistent with the way humans see colour, it is the simplest way to describe the consept. OK, now it makes sense to me. Thank you for the explanation! Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jan Coffey wrote: BTW it is easier for most people to switch from grany to square if you change the way you tie the first overhand instead of the way you loop and follow. And if someone is doing left over right, right over left instead of right over left, left over right, leave them be -- it'll still be a square knot! (But when you're 9, trying to explain this to the high school student helping out with your girl scout troop might not do any good) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 01:27 PM 8/14/2003 -0700, you wrote: --- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And to know the correct way to teach my kids! Not this weird way they are teaching in schools now... What weir way? Are they teaching the make two loops and tie them together way? That way makes a very loose knot. That's it. It definitely doesn't stay very well or for very long. Don't know when my daughter will transition to real knots! A few years ago I tought my wife (and the rest of her family) to tie a loop and follow square knot. They actualy didn't ~like~ laced shoes becouse of the shaby knot they were using. Teach her now. My normal footwear I leave tied all the time, just push down on the back heel and step out. But I'll learn the new knots, nothing sucks worse than boot laces coming undone and becoming muddy or worse frozen. I have a friend, he can never keep his shoes tied...but he also has dyslexia, severely. Never knew there was a connection. Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shoelaces, concetration, stingy reactionsandRe:dyslexiaandtinted lenses Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 16:39:48 +0200 Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shoelaces, concetration, stingy reactions andRe:dyslexiaandtinted lenses Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 10:48:22 +0200 I've suspected I might have Aspergers (or however you'd put it) since Michael first mentioned it several years back, and I went to the links he gave. You wouldn't happen to have some of those for me, now would you? I don't know what Michael posted, but here's what I researched for a friend a few months ago. I don't know if all of these are still active and some of the info is probably redundant. http://www.pddaspergersupportct.org/ www.aspergerssyndrome.org/ www.aspergers.com http://home.vicnet.net.au/~asperger/ http://www.aacap.org/publications/factsfam/69.htm www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/ www.wpi.edu/~trek/aspergers.html http://www.autism.org/asperger.html www.geocities.com/athens/atlantis/4462/ www.asperger.org/ www.isn.net/~jypsy/whataspe.htm www.users.dircon.co.uk/~cns/ www.faaas.org/ http://dir.yahoo.com/Health/Diseases_and_Conditions/Asperger_s_Syndrome/ http://www.ddleadership.org/aspergers/ That'll keep me busy for a while then. Thanks. You're quite welcome, Sonja. Jon Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:27 PM 8/14/2003 -0700, you wrote: --- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And to know the correct way to teach my kids! Not this weird way they are teaching in schools now... What weir way? Are they teaching the make two loops and tie them together way? That way makes a very loose knot. That's it. It definitely doesn't stay very well or for very long. Don't know when my daughter will transition to real knots! A few years ago I tought my wife (and the rest of her family) to tie a loop and follow square knot. They actualy didn't ~like~ laced shoes becouse of the shaby knot they were using. Teach her now. My normal footwear I leave tied all the time, just push down on the back heel and step out. But I'll learn the new knots, nothing sucks worse than boot laces coming undone and becoming muddy or worse frozen. I have a friend, he can never keep his shoes tied...but he also has dyslexia, severely. Never knew there was a connection. There isn't. That was how this thread got started. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Kevin wrote: My normal footwear I leave tied all the time, just push down on the back heel and step out. SO I'M NOT CRAZY! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! WOOHOO! (Sorry, I *always* catch flack about the fact that I do the same thing, and it's nice to now be able to say I can *prove* that I'm not the only one :-) Reggie Bautista _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Sloan II wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: But seriously, your verb tense there is perfect. Thank you. I don't know about the colored lenses links, but the page about the family with the Aspergers kid was very interesting. I've suspected I might have Aspergers (or however you'd put it) since Michael first mentioned it several years back, and I went to the links he gave. You wouldn't happen to have some of those for me, now would you? This adds more evidence to that, because my ears also turn bright, glowing red the way his do when I eat something my body doesn't agree with. I suspect that one of my legs is getting longer then the other here? 8) Didn't even occur to me. guess mine is longer than yours.. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jan Coffey wrote: I also feel that it is necessary to note that there is a lot of quackery around learning disabilities. FREX The Gift of dyslexia is a non scientific book with absolutely ridiculous notions like dyslexics shoes come untied more often, and that dyslexic are clumbsy. There are studies by ~real~ scientists such as Shaywitz shoing that this stuff is nonsense. Well, about those shoes. ;o) I remember that a while back I read about some research into tying shoe laces. It showed that there are many ways to tie your laces but there are only one or two ways that will result in laces that will not continuously come undone. Well that, and it helps if you knot the loops of your toddies shoelaces once you tied them. I don't have the link to it, but if it exist maybe a benevolent listee might provide it for our amusement. :o) One does not have to be autistic to have a heightened sense for such things as flickering lights or shrill electronics. The average person can only see flicker below some frequency (can't remember what it si just now) and the above average person can only here between 20 Htz and 20k Htz. There are individuals who can see and here better, and they are often distracted in learning environemnts that contain such noise. Thank you for the information. I personally have exceptionally good hearing but found that I can shut it down or more like totally screen my surroundings out while I work. It usually results in me being very concentrated, the more so, the noisier the environs I'm working in get. People have found that it then takes a considerable amount of effort to get my attention once I'm in that state. So I sort of use the noises around me to focus my thoughts and become very concentrated. Something I found totally impossible in a silent room, where I would jump at even the slightest of sounds. It is ridiculous to suggest that a student should wear dark red glasses when the lighting could simply be adjusted. Especialy if the student is autistic and is having a difficult enough time socialy anyway. Reading this (and Julia's response) I feel that I have to ask if either you or Julia for that matter read or even glanced at the sites I pointed to? The reason I'm asking is because f.i. information like below is on one of the sites and both your responses seem to be oddly out of sync with this and other things mentioned there. from http://www.read-eye.connectfree.co.uk/dyslexia.htm Visual stress is a condition that often contributes to reading difficulties in adults and children. The condition is related to light sensitivity in disorders such as migraine and epilepsy. It causes distortions on the printed page when black print contrasts sharply with a bright background. Visual stress is often a big part of the problem in Dyslexia, but can also affect other poor readers and may cause eyestrain and headaches in good readers. etc. disclaimer I didn't say, nor did I attempt to say that this in any way applies to Jan, nor that it was _the_ solution to cure any or all dyslexic and/or autistic people, nor did I say that every dyslexic can become a normal reader by putting on dark red lenses, nor did I say that every dyslexic is autistic or that every autistic person is dyslexic, or a combination thereof. Nor did I as far as I know in any way speak negatively about autism, reading and or other disabilities. If I did I'm not aware of it and apologize. /disclaimer I feel that I have to put in this disclaimer because the to me apparently stingy reaction on this subject I got from Jan seemed a bit odd and undeserved. But since I'm a benign person and have to assume that the inadvertent connection I made between autism and dyslexia was what threw people off, I'll try to clarify and refine my position. What I attempted to mentioned was that there are people with sight difficulties (i.e. specifically people with visual dyslexia, like f.i. my mom who likes to wear yellow lenses but until now didn't know why) that benefit from this kind of simple and cheap solution. I aspired to deliver this (to me amazing) info together with source information and the circumstances under which I acquired the information. In general it used to be good brin-l practice to deliver information to the list in this form, usually resulting in nuanced replies of informed people who have taken (tense?) the trouble to glance through the material that the original poster pointed to. Additional surprising information can thus be acquired and it is even possible to have a discussion of the subject between polite, enthusiastic and inspired people. Generally broadening the horizon of the members on this list.. Sonja :o) GCU: Brevity versus complexity xGCU: Is there a limit to the number of subjects one can put in one subject line? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 07:47 PM 8/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: Kevin wrote: My normal footwear I leave tied all the time, just push down on the back heel and step out. SO I'M NOT CRAZY! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! WOOHOO! (Sorry, I *always* catch flack about the fact that I do the same thing, and it's nice to now be able to say I can *prove* that I'm not the only one :-) Reggie Bautista VBSEG I'm glad to be of help. But comparing yourself with me, to say your are not crazyyou know how tough it is to find tissue boxes in my size? Anyway quick glance: two pairs of bike shoes, grass cutting sneakers, two other pairs of sneakers, three pairs of dress shoes, wet weather dress shoesall tied. I've never had anyone see it as a problem. They are tight enough for me to run in. Like I said, I have one friend who's shoes are always united, and I think he looks like an idiot walking around like that, and so does his wife. I have another friend who also keeps his shoes always tied, even his half height work boots. But he has small feet ;-) Kevin T. - VRWC time for bed ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Reggie Bautista wrote: Kevin wrote: My normal footwear I leave tied all the time, just push down on the back heel and step out. SO I'M NOT CRAZY! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! WOOHOO! (Sorry, I *always* catch flack about the fact that I do the same thing, and it's nice to now be able to say I can *prove* that I'm not the only one :-) Reggie Bautista My mom gets those elastic shoelaces, pulls out the regular laces, laces the shoes up with the elastic ones, getting them to the right tightness on her feet, and then she just uses a shoehorn to get her feet into them. Last week, I bought sneakers that didn't have laces. (They zip. I wanted Velcro, but there were no Velcro-fastening-only shoes in the Ladies section at Academy, which has the best athletic shoe selection I know of. And I sure as heck didn't want anything *besides* supportive, comfortable sneakers at this point) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Sonja van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, about those shoes. ;o) I remember that a while back I read about some research into tying shoe laces. It showed that there are many ways to tie your laces but there are only one or two ways that will result in laces that will not continuously come undone. Well that, and it helps if you knot the loops of your toddies shoelaces once you tied them. I don't have the link to it, but if it exist maybe a benevolent listee might provide it for our amusement. :o) Here you go: Originally posted by the Fool: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~gasmith/knots/knots.html The old saying goes that: All I need to know I learned in kindergarten. Well, I certainly wish that somebody had told me about the proper way to tie my shoes back then! There is recent experimental evidence (but don't bother looking into any scientific journals for it) which suggests there is in fact a right and a wrong way to tie your shoes. The difference is subtle; the effect is not. Tie your shoes the right way and they will rarely come undone. Tie them the wrong way, and you will be frequently tripping over your shoelaces. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jan Coffey wrote: So, DONT USE FLORESENT LIGHTS, and DON'T TURN THE LIGHTS ON BRIGHT!!! Amen, brother! When we were building our house, Dan's father was encouraging him to just use fluorescent lighting everywhere. I get headaches being under them for too long -- if I'm in an office that uses them and I'm in control and there's enough natural light coming in through the windows, I kill the lights. Sammy was displaying sensitivity to them at that time, as well, and that kind of nailed it. We have 4 fluorescent fixtures in the house -- one over a kitchen counter (and Dan insisted on that one, I don't like it), one in the laundry room, and one in each of the master bedroom closets, and I'm not entirely happy about *that*, either, but I don't spend enough time in my closet for it to be a major problem. What's better than having lights on bright is having the light focused properly on just the task you need it on. We have a few lamps that are very good for that. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shoelaces, concetration, stingy reactions andRe:dyslexiaandtinted lenses Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 10:48:22 +0200 I've suspected I might have Aspergers (or however you'd put it) since Michael first mentioned it several years back, and I went to the links he gave. You wouldn't happen to have some of those for me, now would you? I don't know what Michael posted, but here's what I researched for a friend a few months ago. I don't know if all of these are still active and some of the info is probably redundant. http://www.pddaspergersupportct.org/ www.aspergerssyndrome.org/ www.aspergers.com http://home.vicnet.net.au/~asperger/ http://www.aacap.org/publications/factsfam/69.htm www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/ www.wpi.edu/~trek/aspergers.html http://www.autism.org/asperger.html www.geocities.com/athens/atlantis/4462/ www.asperger.org/ www.isn.net/~jypsy/whataspe.htm www.users.dircon.co.uk/~cns/ www.faaas.org/ http://dir.yahoo.com/Health/Diseases_and_Conditions/Asperger_s_Syndrome/ http://www.ddleadership.org/aspergers/ That'll keep me busy for a while then. Thanks. Sonja :o) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: shoelaces, concetration, stingy reactions and Re: dyslexiaandtinted lenses
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: I also feel that it is necessary to note that there is a lot of quackery around learning disabilities. FREX The Gift of dyslexia is a non scientific book with absolutely ridiculous notions like dyslexics shoes come untied more often, and that dyslexic are clumbsy. There are studies by ~real~ scientists such as Shaywitz shoing that this stuff is nonsense. Well, about those shoes. ;o) I remember that a while back I read about some research into tying shoe laces. It showed that there are many ways to tie your laces but there are only one or two ways that will result in laces that will not continuously come undone. Well that, and it helps if you knot the loops of your toddies shoelaces once you tied them. I don't have the link to it, but if it exist maybe a benevolent listee might provide it for our amusement. :o) Just passing on the info from real scientists. The thing you don't realize is the links you provided refernce reasearchres the dyslexic comunity knows to be quacks. There are hundreds of dyslexics out there who are being told that their problem is simply solved with red glasses, that they are clumsy, that they are inferior, that they need special help. It's all BS. One does not have to be autistic to have a heightened sense for such things as flickering lights or shrill electronics. The average person can only see flicker below some frequency (can't remember what it is just now) and the above average person can only here between 20 Htz and 20k Htz. There are individuals who can see and here better, and they are often distracted in learning environemnts that contain such noise. Thank you for the information. I personally have exceptionally good hearing but found that I can shut it down or more like totally screen my surroundings out while I work. It usually results in me being very concentrated, the more so, the noisier the environs I'm working in get. People have found that it then takes a considerable amount of effort to get my attention once I'm in that state. So I sort of use the noises around me to focus my thoughts and become very concentrated. Something I found totally impossible in a silent room, where I would jump at even the slightest of sounds. You are one of millions of individuals on this planet who are lucky enough to have autistic tendencies. Use your powers of concentration wisely. Recognize those like you, and those deeper in do not suffer from a defect, they are not broken, they do not need help. well, other than help being treated as an equal in society. It is ridiculous to suggest that a student should wear dark red glasses when the lighting could simply be adjusted. Especialy if the student is autistic and is having a difficult enough time socialy anyway. Reading this (and Julia's response) I feel that I have to ask if either you or Julia for that matter read or even glanced at the sites I pointed to? The reason I'm asking is because f.i. information like below is on one of the sites and both your responses seem to be oddly out of sync with this and other things mentioned there. from http://www.read-eye.connectfree.co.uk/dyslexia.htm Once again these people are quakcs. If you contact them as a concerenc=ed parent of a shild with autism or dyslexia they will try and convince you that all your childs problems are optical and can be fixed with red glasses. Visual stress is a condition that often contributes to reading difficulties in adults and children. The condition is related to light sensitivity in disorders such as migraine and epilepsy. It causes distortions on the printed page when black print contrasts sharply with a bright background. So, DONT USE FLORESENT LIGHTS, and DON'T TURN THE LIGHTS ON BRIGHT!!! Most public places have the lights on so bright and use floresets becouse they are cheeper. Somewhere along the line people bought into an old wives tale that dim lights are bad for your eyes. actuly bright lights are. No one needs dark red lenses, what they need is the lights to be turned down. Visual stress is often a big part of the problem in Dyslexia, No more so than it is for anyone else. remember these people use the term Visual Dyslexia and then drop the visual so that they are just saying dyslexia they are still not talking about the same thing. And if they are they are lying. but can also affect other poor readers and may cause eyestrain and headaches in good readers. etc. disclaimer I didn't say, nor did I attempt to say that this in any way applies to Jan, nor that it was _the_ solution to cure any or all dyslexic and/or autistic people, nor did I say that every dyslexic can become a normal reader by putting on dark red lenses, nor did I say that every dyslexic is autistic or that every autistic person is dyslexic, or a combination thereof. Nor did I as far as I know in any
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http://www.u.arizona.edu/~gasmith/knots/knots.html The old saying goes that: All I need to know I learned in kindergarten. Well, I certainly wish that somebody had told me about the proper way to tie my shoes back then! There is recent experimental evidence (but don't bother looking into any scientific journals for it) which suggests there is in fact a right and a wrong way to tie your shoes. The difference is subtle; the effect is not. Tie your shoes the right way and they will rarely come undone. Tie them the wrong way, and you will be frequently tripping over your shoelaces. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
