NSK/OSS compilation problems, continued

2006-10-11 Thread mwoehlke

lib/mkdir-p.c needs:
#ifndef HAVE_FCHMOD
# define HAVE_FCHMOD 0
#endif

(or maybe 'false' instead of '0'?)

Looks like an oversight...

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Re: NSK(OSS) compilation problem

2006-10-11 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ok... Attaching an initial attempt at a patch for stdint_.h. The
configure script (or more appropriately, I suppose, configure.in)
needs to be patched additionally, but alas, I do not speak autotools
:-)


I'm afraid you'll have to get up to speed with them in order to do
reasonable development in this area.  You don't have to port the
autotools to NSK(OSS); just run them on a GNU/Linux host, do a "make
dist" and then unpackage the tar image on NSK(OSS).


I was hoping someone else could slip in the 'configure needs to write a 
replacement for HAVE_UNSIGNED_LONG_LONG_INT'. :-) I would have thought 
this is a one-line, trivial change?



Anyway, this got me as far as sha512.c where the compiler croaked with:


Fundamentally the problem is that sha512 assumes a 64-bit unsigned
integer type, and you don't have one.  I guess the best way to fix
this is to change coreutils to not build sha512 on hosts that don't
have uint64_t.


Well, the question was "am I ok telling coreutils to not build 
sha512.c?". I'll take that as a "yes", thanks!



(So, yes... "yike"... Since this thread is already getting old (and
likely to get a lot older before I'm done), should I continue this
thread even if/when it starts falling off NTP, or start new ones?)


I don't know what you mean by "NTP", but we're always interested in
ports to real hosts, and Tandem/NSK OSS qualifies as a real host in my
book.  The thread is still live on
<http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-10/msg00062.html>,
if that's what you mean.


Oops, I meant "NNTP"; I'm using gmane.org. What I meant was that I 
expect the roots of the post to start being culled, but I guess I'll 
just ignore that/live with it.



On an unrelated note, when running configure, I get these two header
compilation failures:

...
configure: WARNING: sys/statvfs.h: present but cannot be compiled
...
configure: WARNING: sys/ioctl.h: present but cannot be compiled
...


This indicates that our tests for sys/ioctl.h and sys/statvfs.h are
neglecting to include some prerequisite include files.  I cannot
reproduce the problem with CVS coreutils on Solaris 10 (using Sun C
5.8), so I guess the problem is fixed now.  If not, you'll have to
send us more info.


No, in *this* case (and it is a strange one), the problem is that 
_TANDEM_SOURCE is not defined; not by missing headers. I can verify this 
with:


$ CFLAGS=-D_TANDEM_SOURCE ./configure
...
checking sys/statvfs.h presence... yes
checking for sys/statvfs.h... yes
...
checking sys/ioctl.h usability... yes
checking sys/ioctl.h presence... yes
...

...but I don't feel that this is an ideal solution. I would prefer that 
autoconf know that if it is on NSK/OSS ('#ifdef __TANDEM'), that 
_TANDEM_SOURCE needs to be defined. I.e. I would add an early check that 
would toss '-D_TANDEM_SOURCE' into CFLAGS, and of course use that value 
as it goes on to try its test programs.


Meanwhile, however, I am going to keep going without to see what 
individual sources trip over this, unless I hear agreement that autoconf 
should be fixed. (I would guess this impacts quite a few packages, and 
not just coreutils.)



My guess, however, is that this is a case of
needing _TANDEM_SOURCE defined ala
http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17172, but since this would need to be
changed in autoconf I'm not sure what, if anything, should or could be
done.


Can you give more information about this?  What is _TANDEM_SOURCE
used for?  You can check the files under /usr/include to find out.


If you see the aforementioned bug report, it must be defined for a 
number of headers to compile correctly... including sys/types.h (see 
next comment), and also sys/statvfs.h and sys/ioctl.h (see above).



For statvfs.h:
"/usr/include/sys/statvfs.h", line 50: error(114): identifier "u_long"
is undefined


What include file is supposed to define u_long?  Use "grep -r u_long
/usr/include" to find out.  Similary for ioctl.h.


sys/types.h defines u_*, but *only if _TANDEM_SOURCE is defined*. No 
header in /usr/include defines this, but *all* of these test for it:

/usr/include/ctype.h
/usr/include/dirent.h
/usr/include/fcntl.h
/usr/include/fnmatch.h
/usr/include/limits.h
/usr/include/locale.h
/usr/include/netdb.h
/usr/include/netinet/in.h
/usr/include/nl_types.h
/usr/include/pwd.h
/usr/include/signal.h
/usr/include/stdio.h
/usr/include/stdlib.h
/usr/include/string.h
/usr/include/stropts.h
/usr/include/sys/ipc.h
/usr/include/sys/socket.h
/usr/include/sys/types.h
/usr/include/sys/uio.h
/usr/include/sys/un.h
/usr/include/sys/wait.h
/usr/include/termios.h
/usr/include/unistd.h
/usr/include/wchar.h

I'm attaching sys/types.h so you can take a look, but just in case the 
horse isn't dead enough yet, /plea

Re: [bug-gnulib] proposed patch to allocsa, vasnprintf for Tandem NSK (OSS)

2006-10-11 Thread mwoehlke

Bruno Haible wrote:

Matthew,

The citation in 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-10/msg00062.html
looks like it explains why no 'long long' type exists although the machine
would support it. Are you sure the machine supports '[signed] long long'?
Before we engage on a change as large as this, can you please report
the results (output) of the attached program, compiled once with and once
without optimization?
If it doesn't compile, try commenting out one of the lines
  #define HAVE_LONGLONG 1
  #define HAVE_ULONGLONG 1


As should be expected, I had to take out HAVE_ULONGLONG for it to 
compile. I also had to take out several of the comments (non-ASCII 
characters were doing Bad Things).


If I am reading this correctly, 'long long' is OK (64-bit), which is a 
bit of a relief since one of our products demands an int8(!). The errors 
about sign extension were interesting, though.


I'm attaching the non-optimized output. The optimized ('cc -O') output 
is identical, plus these two errors:


#error "Left shift of integers of type long long does not work!!"
#error "Right shift of integers of type long long does not work!!"

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/* Integers of type char have 8 bits. */
#define char_bitsize 8

/* Integers of type short have 16 bits. */
#define short_bitsize 16

/* Integers of type int have 32 bits. */
#define int_bitsize 32

/* Integers of type long have 32 bits. */
#define long_bitsize 32

/* Integers of type long long have 64 bits. */
#define long_long_bitsize 64

/* Integers of type unsigned char have 8 bits. */

/* Integers of type unsigned short have 16 bits. */

/* Integers of type unsigned int have 32 bits. */

/* Integers of type unsigned long have 32 bits. */

/* Integer types char and unsigned char have the same binary representation. */
/* Integer types short and unsigned short have the same binary representation. 
*/
/* Integer types int and unsigned int have the same binary representation. */
/* Integer types long and unsigned long have the same binary representation. */

#error "Right shift of integers of type char does not work!!"
#error "Casts from char to short works by zero-extend!!"
#error "Casts from char to int works by zero-extend!!"
#error "Casts from char to long works by zero-extend!!"
#error "Casts from char to long long works by zero-extend!!"
#error "Casts from char to unsigned short works by zero-extend!!"
#error "Casts from char to unsigned int works by zero-extend!!"
#error "Casts from char to unsigned long works by zero-extend!!"
/* Pointers of type char * have 32 bits. */
#define pointer_bitsize 32

/* Casts from long * to char * is OK (does nothing). */
/* Casts from char * to long * is OK (does nothing). */
/* Casts from function * to char * is OK (does nothing). */
/* Casts from char * to function * is OK (does nothing). */

/* Type char has sizeof = 1 and alignment = 1. */
#define sizeof_char 1
#define alignment_char 1

/* Type unsigned char has sizeof = 1 and alignment = 1. */

/* Type short has sizeof = 2 and alignment = 2. */
#define sizeof_short 2
#define alignment_short 2

/* Type unsigned short has sizeof = 2 and alignment = 2. */

/* Type int has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */
#define sizeof_int 4
#define alignment_int 4

/* Type unsigned int has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */

/* Type long has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */
#define sizeof_long 4
#define alignment_long 4

/* Type unsigned long has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */

/* Type long long has sizeof = 8 and alignment = 8. */
#define sizeof_long_long 8
#define alignment_long_long 8

/* Type float has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */
#define sizeof_float 4
#define alignment_float 4

/* Type double has sizeof = 8 and alignment = 8. */
#define sizeof_double 8
#define alignment_double 8

/* Type char * has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */

/* Type long * has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */

/* Type function * has sizeof = 4 and alignment = 4. */

/* Type unsigned short is stored BIG-ENDIAN in memory (i.e. like mc68000 or 
sparc). */
#define short_big_endian
/* Type unsigned int is stored BIG-ENDIAN in memory (i.e. like mc68000 or 
sparc). */
#define int_big_endian
/* Type unsigned long is stored BIG-ENDIAN in memory (i.e. like mc68000 or 
sparc). */
#define long_big_endian

/* Stack grows down, ca. 32 bytes per function call. */
#define stack_grows_down
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Re: NSK(OSS) compilation problem

2006-10-09 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

So what would be your recommendation? Remove all use of 64-bit
integers? (i.e. make intmax_t also 'long' rather than 'long long'?)


No, I'd make uintmax_t 32-bit and intmax_t 64 bit, if those are
the widest unsigned and signed types.  Then I'd fix any bugs
that crop up.


Ok... Attaching an initial attempt at a patch for stdint_.h. The 
configure script (or more appropriately, I suppose, configure.in) needs 
to be patched additionally, but alas, I do not speak autotools :-), and 
didn't spot the sources anyway in my brief exploration looking for them. 
So ignore that part of the patch.


And remind me to *NEVER* try to update configure on this box; each run 
takes an *hour* (yes, this box sucks :-)). Trying to do so basically 
killed making any headway Friday.


At any rate, this is enough to get me started; I will have additional 
patches as bugs in single programs manifest themselves, but this at 
least gets things further along.




Anyway, this got me as far as sha512.c where the compiler croaked with:

...
   0x27b70a8546d22ffcULL, 0x2e1b21385c26c926ULL, 0x4d2c6dfc5ac42aedULL, 
0x53380d139d95b3dfULL, 0x650a73548baf63deULL, 0x766a0abb3c77b2a8ULL, 
0x81c2c92e47edaee6ULL, 0x92722c851482353bULL,
"/home/tandem_oss/floss/src/coreutils-6.3/lib/sha512.c", line 399: 
error(764):

  invalid unsigned type
Error limit reached.
100 errors detected in the compilation of "sha512.c".
Compilation terminated.

(So, yes... "yike"... Since this thread is already getting old (and 
likely to get a lot older before I'm done), should I continue this 
thread even if/when it starts falling off NTP, or start new ones?)


What exactly is sha512 used for? It is clear that this code is totally 
non-portable from the explicit use of 'uint64_t' in sha512.h. (Is this 
supposed to be excluded from the build, or what? It clearly would not 
build on any system without a 64-bit integer type...)




I also tried the patch on Solaris x86 (manually changing config.h and 
config.status); there were warnings in fsusage.c, and it failed 'make 
check' at cp:sparse, dd:skip-seek, du:basic, misc:printf, 
misc:split-fail, pr:pr-tests (and OMG was that a noisy failure!), 
tr:tr-tests (not as bad, but still noisy), and uniq:uniq-tests.




On an unrelated note, when running configure, I get these two header 
compilation failures:


...
configure: WARNING: sys/statvfs.h: present but cannot be compiled
...
configure: WARNING: sys/ioctl.h: present but cannot be compiled
...

For now I'm ignoring the ioctl.h one as I don't remember it being a 
problem. I'll look into the statvfs.h failure when I try to get 'stat' 
to build (contrary to my previous bug report, statvfs() looks OK so I'm 
not sure why I couldn't get 'stat' to build on 5.97 - I'm going to try 
harder this time). My guess, however, is that this is a case of needing 
_TANDEM_SOURCE defined ala http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17172, but 
since this would need to be changed in autoconf I'm not sure what, if 
anything, should or could be done.


For statvfs.h:
"/usr/include/sys/statvfs.h", line 50: error(114): identifier "u_long" 
is undefined

(I get this on lines 35-43, 45, 46, 48-50)

Similarly for ioctl.h it complains about 'u_short', 'u_char', 'caddr_t', 
etc in "/usr/include/net/if_arp.h" and "/usr/include/net/if.h" which are 
of course inet headers, i.e. this failure exactly matches my description 
in the bug report.





I think there may be some problems with files that double-include
.  That is a no-no nowadays, since  redefines
uintmax_t and the like.  I'll try to look into it.


Thanks. (Hmm, that sounds like you got off on a tangent talking about
my Tru64 problem?)


I think the issues are related.


I don't see what including config.h twice has to do with HP NSK/OSS not 
having an 'unsigned long long' type? But thanks again for fixing that 
(assuming the patch worked, not sure when I might get around to trying it).


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diff -ur coreutils-6.3-orig/configure coreutils-6.3/configure
--- coreutils-6.3-orig/configure2006-09-30 02:09:13.0 -0700
+++ coreutils-6.3/configure 2006-10-09 10:29:25.0 -0700
@@ -715,6 +715,7 @@
 LIBICONV
 LTLIBICONV
 HAVE_LONG_LONG_INT
+HAVE_UNSIGNED_LONG_LONG_INT
 HAVE_WCHAR_H
 HAVE_INTTYPES_H
 HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H
@@ -17568,9 +17569,14 @@
 cat >>confdefs.h <<\_ACEOF
 #define HAVE_UNSIGNED_LONG_LONG_INT 1
 _ACEOF

   fi

+  if test $ac_cv_type_unsigned_long_long_int = yes; then
+HAVE_UNSIGNED_LONG_LONG_INT=1
+  else
+HAVE_UNSIGNED_LONG_LONG_INT=0
+  fi



@@ -62390,6 +62399,7 @@
 LIBICONV!$LIBICONV$ac_delim

Re: make check "failure" on Itanium HPUX

2006-10-09 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


You mean /usr/bin/posix, right?


Yes.


 14388 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) | diff - $t

So it looks like 'diff' is broken?


I guess so.  But that's a different issue.  Try removing the broken
diff and using the system-standard diff.  You can debug diff later.


Ok, confirming that diff is broken; 'make check' passed with 
/usr/bin/diff. Looks like I'll be (hopefully) filing a bug against 
diffutils.


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Re: coreutils 6.3 on Tru64 - just plain broken, or...?

2006-10-09 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

source='xstrtoimax.c' object='xstrtoimax.o' libtool=no \
DEPDIR=.deps depmode=tru64 /usr/bin/posix/sh ../build-aux/depcomp \
cc -std  -I. -I. -I.   -I/home/install/gnu/alpha_osf/include -g -c 
xstrtoimax.c
cc: Warning: ./config.h, line 1741: The redefinition of the macro
"intmax_t" conflicts with a current definition because the replacement
lists differ.  The redefinition is now in effect. (macroredef)
#define intmax_t long long
-^


I think I see the problem now; you can't include , then
, then , due to  having some
semi-obsolescent definitions of intmax_t (due to gettext not yet
upgrading to assume inttypes.h).

I installed this into gnulib to fix things:

[patch snipped]


Sounds good, thanks!

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Re: [bug #17908] 'configure' fails because it is unable to determine how to read the mount table.

2006-10-09 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

Update of bug #17908 (project coreutils):
Severity:  3 - Normal => 2 - Minor  
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Follow-up Comment #3:

Thanks for the report.  Considering the affected systems are not mainstream,
I'm changing severity to "minor".


Fine with me, since I can't *change* the severity. :-)
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Re: NSK(OSS) compilation problem

2006-10-06 Thread mwoehlke

mwoehlke wrote:
I have a problem building on Tandem/NSK OSS; specifically, uintmax_t 
(unsigned long long) is not a valid data type. [snip]


Also, I don't remember this problem with 5.97 (but I could be wrong); 
[snip]


Ah, hmm, maybe '2006-08-21  Jim Meyering  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' has 
something to do with it...


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Re: NSK(OSS) compilation problem

2006-10-06 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I have a problem building on Tandem/NSK OSS; specifically, uintmax_t
(unsigned long long) is not a valid data type (don't ask me why!).


Sorry, but we've gotta ask why.  Why isn't it a valid data type?
Does the compiler reject 'unsigned long long int x;'?  Or does
it mishandle code generated with that type?  Or what?


If you read the bottom of my original post, I already answered that:
"Unsigned long long: The C++ standard does not specify the long long 
integer data type; however, it does state that signed integer data types 
should have an unsigned counterpart. None of the compilers on the TNS/R 
platform define an unsigned 64-bit data type, and C++ is no exception."


"*None of the compilers... define an unsigned 64-bit data type...*" If 
you want to know /why/ they don't, you'll have to ask HP.



I am thinking about changing this to 'long long',


That would break a lot of code.  I wouldn't do it.


Would it be better to change it to 'unsigned long' instead?


uintmax_t should be the widest unsigned integer type that works.
If that's 'unsigned long int', then you should use 'unsigned long int'.

C does not require that uintmax_t and intmax_t must have the same
width.  However, I suspect that some gnulib code does assume that
uintmax_t is wide enough to represent any nonnegative integer value,
which means you may run into trouble if intmax_t, off_t, etc.  are
wider than uintmax_t.


So what would be your recommendation? Remove all use of 64-bit integers? 
(i.e. make intmax_t also 'long' rather than 'long long'?) And I wonder 
why I don't remember running into this with 5.97?



Also, I don't remember this problem with 5.97 (but I could be wrong);


I think there may be some problems with files that double-include
.  That is a no-no nowadays, since  redefines
uintmax_t and the like.  I'll try to look into it.


Thanks. (Hmm, that sounds like you got off on a tangent talking about my 
Tru64 problem?)


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Re: coreutils 6.3 on Tru64 - just plain broken, or...?

2006-10-04 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


things went badly until I removed the #define for
intmax_t from config.h.


That's not a good sign.  In what way did they go badly, exactly?  What
diagnostics did you get?


source='xstrtoimax.c' object='xstrtoimax.o' libtool=no \
DEPDIR=.deps depmode=tru64 /usr/bin/posix/sh ../build-aux/depcomp \
cc -std  -I. -I. -I.   -I/home/install/gnu/alpha_osf/include 
-g -c xstrtoimax.c
cc: Warning: ./config.h, line 1741: The redefinition of the macro 
"intmax_t" conflicts with a current definition because the replacement 
lists differ.  The redefinition is now in effect. (macroredef)

#define intmax_t long long
-^
cc: Error: xstrtol.c, line 53: In this declaration, the type of 
"strtoimax" is not compatible with the type of a previous declaration of 
"strtoimax" at line number 1039 in file ./inttypes.h. (notcompat)

intmax_t strtoimax ();
-^
cc: Warning: xstrtol.c, line 89: In this declaration, parameter 4 has a 
different type than specified in an earlier declaration of this 
function. (mismatparam)

__xstrtol (const char *s, char **ptr, int strtol_base,
^
cc: Error: xstrtol.c, line 89: In this declaration, the type of 
"xstrtoimax" is not compatible with the type of a previous declaration 
of "xstrtoimax" at line number 48 in file xstrtol.h. (notcompat)

__xstrtol (const char *s, char **ptr, int strtol_base,
^
make[2]: *** [xstrtoimax.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3-alpha_osf/lib'


...this all went away if I took out the redefinition of intmax_t. It 
appears to be conflicting with the definition in lib/stdint[_].h.


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Re: coreutils 6.3 on Tru64 - just plain broken, or...?

2006-10-04 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

...is anyone else trying to build on Tru64? I'm using 4.0G to build,
and I have a LOT of problems.


Yes, people build coreutils on Tru64, though 4.0G (released 2000-05) is
getting a bit old.  Have you applied all the relevant patches?  See
<http://h30097.www3.hp.com/docs/patch/>.


This isn't exactly "my" box; applying patches to it really isn't 
something I can do on a whim. If we drop 4.0* I can move to our 5.x 
boxes, but for now the box I'm building on is the same one we use to 
build our products, so I have to stick with it as-is. (At least it isn't 
the even-older 4.0F which is supposed to be what we actually *support*, 
and doesn't have [v]snprintf()!)


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Re: coreutils 6.3 on Tru64 - just plain broken, or...?

2006-10-04 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


shuf builds, but the linker complains about 'ftello unresolved', and
then *produces a file* (but without +x), with the result that 'make'
then thinks it has nothing to do to for target 'shuf' and continues on
to "success" if re-run.


I installed this patch to Autoconf to try to address this problem.
[snip]


Thanks! However, unless you also have a patched 'configure' for me also, 
I'll just take your word for it. :-)


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Re: make check "failure" on Itanium HPUX

2006-10-04 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

mwoehlke wrote:

This is a little odd... 'make' exits non-zero when doing 'make
check' (help-version) on Itanium Linux, but the tests all seem to
pass. Here is the relevant verbose output:
[snip]

...and similarly on HPUX, although the tests pass, 'make check' just
*fails*, and in this case I'm not seeing why. I'm attaching the log in
case anyone spots something I didn't. (Maybe it's the same problem?)

This bit looks like the cause:

t=ls-files.$$;  \
(cd . && ls -1 *.x) | sed 's/\.x$//' | LC_ALL=C sort > $t;\
echo base64.1 basename.1 cat.1 chgrp.1 chmod.1 chown.1 chroot.1 cksum.1 
comm.1 cp.1 csplit.1 cut.1 date.1 dd.1 df.1 dir.1 dircolors.1 dirname.1 du.1 
echo.1 env.1 expand.1 expr.1 factor.1 false.1 fmt.1 fold.1 groups.1 head.1 
hostid.1 hostname.1 id.1 install.1 join.1 kill.1 link.1 ln.1 logname.1 ls.1 
md5sum.1 mkdir.1 mkfifo.1 mknod.1 mv.1 nice.1 nl.1 nohup.1 od.1 paste.1 
pathchk.1 pinky.1 pr.1 printenv.1 printf.1 ptx.1 pwd.1 readlink.1 rm.1 rmdir.1 
seq.1 sha1sum.1 sha224sum.1 sha256sum.1 sha384sum.1 sha512sum.1 shred.1 shuf.1 
sleep.1 sort.1 split.1 stat.1 stty.1 su.1 sum.1 sync.1 tac.1 tail.1 tee.1 
test.1 touch.1 tr.1 true.1 tsort.1 tty.1 uname.1 unexpand.1 uniq.1 unlink.1 
uptime.1 users.1 vdir.1 wc.1 who.1 whoami.1 yes.1 | tr -s ' ' '\n' | sed 
's/\.1$//' \
  | LC_ALL=C sort | diff - $t || { rm $t; exit 1; };\
rm $t
/usr/bin/posix/sh[5]: 12357 Memory fault(coredump)
make[2]: *** [check-x-vs-1] Error 1

Yup, it does; didn't spot that. But...


(do you have "/usr/bin/posix" in your shell's search path?)

...no I don't.


I'd guess it's pulled in because 'configure' tries /usr/posix/bin/sh.


You mean /usr/bin/posix, right?


Anyway, to me that looks like a fluke
since 'make check' shouldn't be doing anything in 'man', yes?


'make check' does the equivalent of 'make', so it does things
in 'man'.  And so it's not a fluke; it's a real problem of
some sort with your /usr/posix/bin/sh implementation.


Ok, but actually this is something that 'make check' does that 'make' 
doesn't (looks like it verifies that all manpages are there?); 'make' in 
just man/ reports 'nothing to do', whereas 'make check' produces this error.



Can you reproduce the problem by hand?  For example, does the
following shell script dump core for you, when you execute it in your
man directory?

#! /bin/sh
/usr/posix/bin/sh -c 'PATH=../src:$PATH; export PATH;   \
t=ls-files.$$;  \
(cd . && ls -1 *.x) | sed '\''s/\.x$//'\'' | LC_ALL=C sort > $t;\
echo base64.1 basename.1 cat.1 chgrp.1 chmod.1 chown.1 chroot.1 cksum.1 
comm.1 cp.1 csplit.1 cut.1 date.1 dd.1 df.1 dir.1 dircolors.1 dirname.1 du.1 
echo.1 env.1 expand.1 expr.1 factor.1 false.1 fmt.1 fold.1 groups.1 head.1 
hostid.1 hostname.1 id.1 install.1 join.1 kill.1 link.1 ln.1 logname.1 ls.1 
md5sum.1 mkdir.1 mkfifo.1 mknod.1 mv.1 nice.1 nl.1 nohup.1 od.1 paste.1 
pathchk.1 pinky.1 pr.1 printenv.1 printf.1 ptx.1 pwd.1 readlink.1 rm.1 rmdir.1 
seq.1 sha1sum.1 sha224sum.1 sha256sum.1 sha384sum.1 sha512sum.1 shred.1 shuf.1 
sleep.1 sort.1 split.1 stat.1 stty.1 su.1 sum.1 sync.1 tac.1 tail.1 tee.1 
test.1 touch.1 tr.1 true.1 tsort.1 tty.1 uname.1 unexpand.1 uniq.1 unlink.1 
uptime.1 users.1 vdir.1 wc.1 who.1 whoami.1 yes.1 | tr -s '\'' '\'' '\''\n'\'' 
| sed '\''s/\.1$//'\''   \
  | LC_ALL=C sort | diff - $t || { rm $t; exit 1; };\
rm $t'


Hmm... actually it does (you meant '/usr/bin/posix/sh', not 
'/usr/posix/bin/sh')... Also, if I re-run with bash, I get:


bash: line 5: 14384 Doneecho base64.1 basename.1 
cat.1 chgrp.1 chmod.1 chown.1 chroot.1 cksum.1 comm.1 cp.1 csplit.1 
cut.1 date.1 dd.1 df.1 dir.1 dircolors.1 dirname.1 du.1 echo.1 env.1 
expand.1 expr.1 factor.1 false.1 fmt.1 fold.1 groups.1 head.1 hostid.1 
hostname.1 id.1 install.1 join.1 kill.1 link.1 ln.1 logname.1 ls.1 
md5sum.1 mkdir.1 mkfifo.1 mknod.1 mv.1 nice.1 nl.1 nohup.1 od.1 paste.1 
pathchk.1 pinky.1 pr.1 printenv.1 printf.1 ptx.1 pwd.1 readlink.1 rm.1 
rmdir.1 seq.1 sha1sum.1 sha224sum.1 sha256sum.1 sha384sum.1 sha512sum.1 
shred.1 shuf.1 sleep.1 sort.1 split.1 stat.1 stty.1 su.1 sum.1 sync.1 
tac.1 tail.1 tee.1 test.1 touch.1 tr.1 true.1 tsort.1 tty.1 uname.1 
unexpand.1 uniq.1 unlink.1 uptime.1 users.1 vdir.1 wc.1 who.1 whoami.1 yes.1

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NSK(OSS) compilation problem

2006-10-04 Thread mwoehlke
I have a problem building on Tandem/NSK OSS; specifically, uintmax_t 
(unsigned long long) is not a valid data type (don't ask me why!). I am 
thinking about changing this to 'long long', but before I do that can 
anyone comment on what potential problems that might cause? Would it be 
better to change it to 'unsigned long' instead?


Also, I don't remember this problem with 5.97 (but I could be wrong); 
does anyone know if this might have changed recently? I saw '2006-07-02 
stdint_.h (intmax_t, uintmax_t)' in ChangeLog but that doesn't sound 
like it would cause the opposite problem?


While trying to find doc for the compiler (it doesn't have a man page), 
I did find this:
"Unsigned long long: The C++ standard does not specify the long long 
integer data type; however, it does state that signed integer data types 
should have an unsigned counterpart. None of the compilers on the TNS/R 
platform define an unsigned 64-bit data type, and C++ is no exception."

IOW 'unsigned long long' is not supported on Tandem/NSK OSS

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Darwin - GOOD news

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke
The 'rm' problem is gone on Darwin (x86 and PowerPC; didn't remember it 
affecting x86 but it popped up once as I was building 6.3, when 'rm' was 
still picking up the one from 5.97). Thanks for the patches!


Still the same 'make check' failures, but only on NFS; at least one of 
which was determined to be a buggy kernel/NFS driver. Not sure if I'll 
get to ktrace'ing the others or not.


Other than the above, NSK(OSS) which I am still working on, and the 
aforementioned fubar'd Tru64, my only failures (on 12 platforms) are:

ia64_linux:FAIL: dir2dir
ia64_linux:FAIL: no-target-dir
iris_irix:FAIL: date

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Re: make check "failure" on Itanium Linux

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke

mwoehlke wrote:
This is a little odd... 'make' exits non-zero when doing 'make check' 
(help-version) on Itanium Linux, but the tests all seem to pass.


Ack, nope, scratch that, there were real failures in there too... grep 
found them (my eyes did not :-().

ia64_linux:FAIL: dir2dir
ia64_linux:FAIL: no-target-dir

Will try to take a look later...

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coreutils 6.3 on Tru64 - just plain broken, or...?

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke
...is anyone else trying to build on Tru64? I'm using 4.0G to build, and 
I have a LOT of problems.


For starters, things went badly until I removed the #define for intmax_t 
from config.h.


shuf builds, but the linker complains about 'ftello unresolved', and 
then *produces a file* (but without +x), with the result that 'make' 
then thinks it has nothing to do to for target 'shuf' and continues on 
to "success" if re-run.


'make check' bombed because it failed to find perl (despite it being in 
my path the whole time), although it looks like my perl may be broken 
(didn't find strict.pm after I forcibly pointed the Makefile's at it). 
Building perl is not going to happen; after an hour trying to get the 
POS Configure to run I gave up and deleted it with extreme prejudice.


Instead I ran the 'make check' on a 5.1 box, and then got memory faults 
all over the place (log attached; I also have the full verbose run, but 
it's ~45kb bzip2'd).


So... has anyone else tried Tru64?

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***
NOTICE: Some tests may be run only as root.
  Do `make check-root' as `root' to run these tests.
***
Making check in chgrp
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chgrp'
make  check-TESTS
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chgrp'
./no-x: this test requires that you be a member of more than one group,
but running `id -G' either failed or found just one.  If you really
are a member of at least two groups, then rerun this test with
COREUTILS_GROUPS set in your environment to the space-separated list
of group names or numbers.  E.g.,

  env COREUTILS_GROUPS='users cdrom' make check

SKIP: no-x
./posix-H: this test requires that you be a member of more than one group,
but running `id -G' either failed or found just one.  If you really
are a member of at least two groups, then rerun this test with
COREUTILS_GROUPS set in your environment to the space-separated list
of group names or numbers.  E.g.,

  env COREUTILS_GROUPS='users cdrom' make check

SKIP: posix-H
./basic: this test requires that you be a member of more than one group,
but running `id -G' either failed or found just one.  If you really
are a member of at least two groups, then rerun this test with
COREUTILS_GROUPS set in your environment to the space-separated list
of group names or numbers.  E.g.,

  env COREUTILS_GROUPS='users cdrom' make check

SKIP: basic
./deref: this test requires that you be a member of more than one group,
but running `id -G' either failed or found just one.  If you really
are a member of at least two groups, then rerun this test with
COREUTILS_GROUPS set in your environment to the space-separated list
of group names or numbers.  E.g.,

  env COREUTILS_GROUPS='users cdrom' make check

SKIP: deref
./recurse: this test requires that you be a member of more than one group,
but running `id -G' either failed or found just one.  If you really
are a member of at least two groups, then rerun this test with
COREUTILS_GROUPS set in your environment to the space-separated list
of group names or numbers.  E.g.,

  env COREUTILS_GROUPS='users cdrom' make check

SKIP: recurse
==
All 0 tests passed
(5 tests were not run)
==
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chgrp'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chgrp'
Making check in chmod
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chmod'
make  check-TESTS
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chmod'
PASS: inaccessible
PASS: c-option
PASS: equal-x
PASS: equals
PASS: no-x
PASS: octal
PASS: setgid
PASS: umask-x
PASS: usage
==
All 9 tests passed
==
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chmod'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chmod'
Making check in chown
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chown'
make  check-TESTS
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chown'
***
NOTICE:
./basic: This test is being skipped, since it works only
when run as root.
***
SKIP: basic
PASS: deref
PASS: separator
==
All 2 tests passed
(1 tests were not run)
==
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chown'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/chown'
Making check in cp
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/cp'
make  check-TESTS
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/tests/cp'
PASS: src-base-dot
./sparse: 343414 Memory fault
./sparse: 343422 Memory fault
./sp

Re: make check "failure" on Itanium HPUX

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

mwoehlke wrote:

This is a little odd... 'make' exits non-zero when doing 'make
check' (help-version) on Itanium Linux, but the tests all seem to
pass. Here is the relevant verbose output:
[snip]

...and similarly on HPUX, although the tests pass, 'make check' just
*fails*, and in this case I'm not seeing why. I'm attaching the log in
case anyone spots something I didn't. (Maybe it's the same problem?)


This bit looks like the cause:

t=ls-files.$$;  \
(cd . && ls -1 *.x) | sed 's/\.x$//' | LC_ALL=C sort > $t;\
echo base64.1 basename.1 cat.1 chgrp.1 chmod.1 chown.1 chroot.1 cksum.1 
comm.1 cp.1 csplit.1 cut.1 date.1 dd.1 df.1 dir.1 dircolors.1 dirname.1 du.1 
echo.1 env.1 expand.1 expr.1 factor.1 false.1 fmt.1 fold.1 groups.1 head.1 
hostid.1 hostname.1 id.1 install.1 join.1 kill.1 link.1 ln.1 logname.1 ls.1 
md5sum.1 mkdir.1 mkfifo.1 mknod.1 mv.1 nice.1 nl.1 nohup.1 od.1 paste.1 
pathchk.1 pinky.1 pr.1 printenv.1 printf.1 ptx.1 pwd.1 readlink.1 rm.1 rmdir.1 
seq.1 sha1sum.1 sha224sum.1 sha256sum.1 sha384sum.1 sha512sum.1 shred.1 shuf.1 
sleep.1 sort.1 split.1 stat.1 stty.1 su.1 sum.1 sync.1 tac.1 tail.1 tee.1 
test.1 touch.1 tr.1 true.1 tsort.1 tty.1 uname.1 unexpand.1 uniq.1 unlink.1 
uptime.1 users.1 vdir.1 wc.1 who.1 whoami.1 yes.1 | tr -s ' ' '\n' | sed 
's/\.1$//' \
  | LC_ALL=C sort | diff - $t || { rm $t; exit 1; };\
rm $t
/usr/bin/posix/sh[5]: 12357 Memory fault(coredump)
make[2]: *** [check-x-vs-1] Error 1


Yup, it does; didn't spot that. But...


(do you have "/usr/bin/posix" in your shell's search path?)


...no I don't.

$ which -a sh
/usr/bin/sh
$ ll /usr/bin/sh
-r-xr-xr-x 2 bin bin 544232 Aug  8  2002 /usr/bin/sh

So unless this is some weird HPUX thing I'm not sure where 
/usr/bin/posix/sh came from. Anyway, to me that looks like a fluke since 
'make check' shouldn't be doing anything in 'man', yes? IOW this one can 
be safely ignored?


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Re: make check "failure" on Itanium HPUX

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke

mwoehlke wrote:
This is a little odd... 'make' exits non-zero when doing 'make check' 
(help-version) on Itanium Linux, but the tests all seem to pass. Here is 
the relevant verbose output:

[snip]


...and similarly on HPUX, although the tests pass, 'make check' just 
*fails*, and in this case I'm not seeing why. I'm attaching the log in 
case anyone spots something I didn't. (Maybe it's the same problem?)


Same versions of bash and make here (both built from clean sources).

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Making check in lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/lib'
./t-fpending > /dev/null
make  check-am
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/lib'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `check-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/lib'
Making check in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/install/gnu/src/coreutils-6.3/src'
rm -rf progs-readme progs-makefile
echo [ chgrp chown chmod cp dd dircolors du ginstall link ln dir vdir ls mkdir 
mkfifo mknod mv nohup readlink rm rmdir shred stat sync touch unlink cat cksum 
comm csplit cut expand fmt fold head join md5sum nl od paste pr ptx sha1sum 
sha224sum sha256sum sha384sum sha512sum shuf sort split sum tac tail tr tsort 
unexpand uniq wc basename date dirname echo env expr factor false hostname id 
kill logname pathchk printenv printf pwd seq sleep tee test true tty whoami yes 
base64 uname chroot hostid nice pinky users who uptime stty df groups chroot df 
hostid nice pinky stty su uname uptime users who \
 | tr -s ' ' '\n' | sed -e 's,$,,' \
 | LC_ALL=C sort -u > progs-makefile && \
sed -n '/^The programs .* are:/,/^[a-zA-Z]/p' ../README \
  | sed -n '/^   */s///p' | tr -s ' ' '\n' > progs-readme
diff progs-makefile progs-readme && rm -rf progs-readme progs-makefile
diff: memory exhausted
make[1]: *** [check-README] Error 2
cd .; grep '^# *define  *S_IS' lbracket.c base64.c basename.c cat.c chgrp.c 
chown-core.c chmod.c chown.c chown-core.c chroot.c cksum.c comm.c cp.c copy.c 
cp-hash.c csplit.c cut.c date.c dd.c df.c ls.c ls-dir.c dircolors.c dirname.c 
du.c echo.c env.c expand.c expr.c factor.c false.c fmt.c fold.c install.c 
copy.c cp-hash.c head.c hostid.c hostname.c id.c join.c kill.c link.c ln.c 
logname.c ls.c ls-ls.c md5sum.c mkdir.c mkfifo.c mknod.c mv.c copy.c cp-hash.c 
remove.c nice.c nl.c nohup.c od.c paste.c pathchk.c pinky.c pr.c printenv.c 
printf.c ptx.c pwd.c readlink.c rm.c remove.c rmdir.c seq.c setuidgid.c 
md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c shred.c shuf.c sleep.c sort.c 
split.c stat.c stty.c su.c sum.c sync.c tac.c tail.c tee.c test.c touch.c tr.c 
true.c tsort.c tty.c uname.c unexpand.c uniq.c unlink.c uptime.c users.c ls.c 
ls-vdir.c wc.c who.c whoami.c yes.c && exit 1 || :
cd .; grep st_blocks lbracket.c base64.c basename.c cat.c chgrp.c chown-core.c 
chmod.c chown.c chown-core.c chroot.c cksum.c comm.c cp.c copy.c cp-hash.c 
csplit.c cut.c date.c dd.c df.c ls.c ls-dir.c dircolors.c dirname.c du.c echo.c 
env.c expand.c expr.c factor.c false.c fmt.c fold.c install.c copy.c cp-hash.c 
head..c hostid.c hostname.c id.c join.c kill.c link.c ln.c logname.c ls.c 
ls-ls.c md5sum.c mkdir.c mkfifo.c mknod.c mv.c copy.c cp-hash.c remove.c nice.c 
nl.c nohup.c od.c paste.c pathchk.c pinky.c pr.c printenv.c printf.c ptx.c 
pwd.c readlink.c rm.c remove.c rmdir.c seq.c setuidgid.c md5sum.c md5sum.c 
md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c shred.c shuf.c sleep.c sort.c split.c stat.c stty.c 
su.c sum.c sync.c tac.c tail.c tee.c test.c touch.c tr.c true.c tsort.c tty.c 
uname.c unexpand.c uniq.c unlink.c uptime.c users.c ls.c ls-vdir.c wc.c who.c 
whoami.c yes.c && exit 1 || :
cd .; grep '^# *define .*defined' lbracket.c base64.c basename.c cat.c chgrp.c 
chown-core.c chmod.c chown.c chown-core.c chroot.c cksum.c comm.c cp.c copy.c 
cp-hash.c csplit.c cut.c date.c dd.c df.c ls.c ls-dir.c dircolors.c dirname.c 
du.c echo.c env.c expand.c expr.c factor.c false.c fmt.c fold.c install.c 
copy.c cp-hash.c head.c hostid.c hostname.c id.c join.c kill.c link.c ln.c 
logname.c ls.c ls-ls.c md5sum.c mkdir.c mkfifo.c mknod.c mv.c copy.c cp-hash.c 
remove.c nice.c nl.c nohup.c od.c paste.c pathchk.c pinky.c pr.c printenv.c 
printf.c ptx.c pwd.c readlink.c rm.c remove.c rmdir.c seq.c setuidgid.c 
md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c md5sum.c shred.c shuf.c sleep.c sort.c 
split.c stat.c stty.c su.c sum.c sync.c tac.c tail.c tee.c test.c touch.c tr.c 
true.c tsort.c tty.c uname.c unexpand.c uniq.c unlink.c uptime.c users.c ls.c 
ls-vdir.c wc.c who.c whoami.c yes.c && exit 1 || :
make[1]: Target `check'

make check "failure" on Itanium Linux

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke
This is a little odd... 'make' exits non-zero when doing 'make check' 
(help-version) on Itanium Linux, but the tests all seem to pass. Here is 
the relevant verbose output:


+ echo
+ echo
+ mkdir dir-12144
+ test kill = '['
+ prog=kill
+ eval 'args=$kill_args'
++ args=13844
+ ../../src/kill 13844
+ :
+ rm -rf in-12144 in2-12144 out-12144 dir-12144
./help-version: line 209: 13844 Terminated  sleep 10m
+ rm -rf in-12144 in2-12144 dir-12144 out-12144

It looks like something is not absorbing an expected failure like it 
should. Any guesses?


$ /bin/sh --version
GNU bash, version 2.05.8(1)-release (ia64-redhat-linux-gnu)
Copyright 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

$ make --version
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This program built for ia64-unknown-linux-gnu

$ bash --version
GNU bash, version 3.1.17(1)-release (ia64-unknown-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

$ echo $BASH_VERSION
3.1.17(1)-release

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Re: coreutils-6.3: c89 patch insufficent

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

So, at least here, if c99 becomes a strict requirement, I won't be
able to build on sparc Solaris at all, unless I can manage building
gcc first.


A couple of things.

 * First, coreutils doesn't require C99; it merely requires a few
   C99 features, like declarations after statements.  GCC 3.2.3
   should be fine.


I'm still unclear on why the main source doesn't simply support strict 
c89 compilers, given that a patch is so easily available. (Might have 
wanted to mention that in README.)



 * Second, I'd be surprised if the latest GCC doesn't build on Solaris
   7.  Certainly its installation instructions talk about Solaris 7.
   (I long ago lost my last Solaris 7 host, so I can't easily check
   this myself.)


I haven't tried; building gcc is not something I particularly want to do 
if I can avoid it. Plus I would prefer to use either native compilers 
across the board, or gcc across the board, and to go gcc I would have to 
build it on some eight different platforms (including the infamous OSS 
and our Itanium Linux box which currently has the gcc 2.96 abomination).



So I wouldn't worry so much about this issue; it's not as serious as
it might seem.


I'm not worried, that's why I put "FYI" at the beginning of my post. :-) 
Nor did I say it was serious. Nope, just informative.


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Re: coreutils-6.3: c89 patch insufficent

2006-10-03 Thread mwoehlke

Michael Deutschmann wrote:

coreutils-6.3 includes a patch, c99-to-c89.diff, to allow it to be
compiled on platforms that don't support declarations after statements.
However, this patch is not sufficent -- I had to fix two other areas to
get coreutils to compile under GCC 2.95.3.

I've appended my fixes.  They are to be applied after the existing
c99-to-c89.diff.

[snip patch]


Thanks for those.

FYI:
Since I remember having a discussion on the wisdom of requiring c99, 
I'll mention that I have since discovered that our sparc Solaris 
platform (which is 2.7, that being the oldest version on which we still 
support products) does not have a c99. In fact, other than gcc 3.2.3 
which we have built for 2.8 (and doesn't work on 2.7, if at all - 
configure complained 'header exists but is not usable' for apparently 
EVERY header that existed), I can't find that we have *any* c99 compiler 
for sparc.


So, at least here, if c99 becomes a strict requirement, I won't be able 
to build on sparc Solaris at all, unless I can manage building gcc first.


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Re: OT: latest stable version not recommended

2006-09-28 Thread mwoehlke

Karl Berry wrote:
> with http://directory.fsf.org/gzip.html; no mention there)... which, of 


1.3.5 is mentioned on that Directory page as the "(devel)" release.

Anyway, I wrote rms about the lack of official releases in recent
decades.


Ah, my bad... but then, it's still just "devel" (which means 'not stable 
- DON'T USE!' to a maintainer of production systems), none of the "no, 
really, you DON'T want to use 1.2.4" stuff I've been hearing.


At any rate, there still isn't a download link for it, so one still has 
to go hunting for where to get it (and if someone who hasn't heard of 
alpha.gnu.org comes along, they won't know where to get it).


Excuse me while I e-mail JLG. 7 years is about long enough for a new 
release I think. (Anyone here want to hear how it goes?)


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Re: OT: latest stable version not recommended

2006-09-28 Thread mwoehlke

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2006-09-27 19:00:44 -0500, mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

Paul Eggert wrote:

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Can I validly talk Apple into upgrading their provided gzip to 1.3.5
when this is not in the stable category (for _whatever_ reason[s])?
If 1.3.5 is fine to use, it needs to be assigned as such, or Apple
would find an argument to close the bug rather quickly.


Debian stable uses gzip 1.3.5.  Solaris 10 uses gzip 1.3.3.  (Both
have added patches, for security reasons.)  Anybody using gzip 1.2.4
in this day and age ought to have their head examined.


Ok, as one of "anybody", I have to object to that... The problem is 
the only thing advertised *anywhere* is 1.2.4. I had to look *really 
closely* at http://www.gzip.org to find 1.3.3 (and don't even bother 
with http://directory.fsf.org/gzip.html; no mention there)... which, 
of course, is labeled "beta" and doesn't mention anything about 1.2.4 
being "bad". And darned if I found a 1.3.5 anywhere except 
http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net. If I have to be an "insider" to have 
any clue that 1.2.4 is "bad", then someone (multiple someone's, 
really) is SERIOUSLY dropping the ball as a maintainer.


Yes if one doesn't know about the alpha FTP site, one wouldn't find the
official gzip-1.3.5 sourceball:
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/gzip


Right, but of course I didn't find any *links* to that. IOW, as you 
said, one has to "just know" that it exists. And further that despite 
its alpha status, people really do recommend using it.



Now look at the dates -- this has been tucked away for four years?!?!??
(fwiw apparently gzip is so old, there are no discussions groups, 
mail-lists,

or web forums for it; gmane only carries info-zip and 7zip groups here...
so how would one get word out?)


Old, and apparently unmaintained, which was sort of my original point.

Word would get out by a new stable release (as we've said, isn't it 
about time?!), which would be announced on, at minimum, 
http://www.gzip.org and http://directory.fsf.org/gzip.html.


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Re: Darwin - chmod broken?

2006-09-27 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 10487 chmodCALL  chmod(0x2800600,0x1a4)
 10487 chmodNAMI  "."
 10487 chmodRET   chmod 0
 10487 chmodCALL  chmod(0x2800600,0x1a4)
 10487 chmodNAMI  "b"
 10487 chmodRET   chmod 0
 10487 chmodCALL  close(0x1)
 10487 chmodRET   close 0
 10487 chmodCALL  exit(0)

Does that look right?


No.  It looks like your kernel is busted.  The first chmod sets
the permissions of "." to 644, i.e., nobody can search it.
But the second chmod searches "." successfully.


Yup, that's what I'm seeing.


Are you running this test as root?


Nope.


If I am reading 'man 2 chmod' right, the second chmod() is expected
to fail with EACCES?


Yes, that's right.  It looks like your operating system is buggy.


Wow... you ain't kidding...

$ ll -d . b
drwxr-xr-x 3 install sstest 512 Sep 27 08:26 .
drwxr-xr-x 2 install sstest 512 Sep 26 15:20 b
$ /bin/chmod a-x . b
$ ll -d . b
drw-r--r-- 3 install sstest 512 Sep 27 08:26 .
drw-r--r-- 2 install sstest 512 Sep 26 15:20 b
$ ll -d . b
drw-r--r-- 3 install sstest 512 Sep 27 08:26 .
drw-r--r-- 2 install sstest 512 Sep 26 15:20 b
$ chmod a+x .
chmod: changing permissions of `.': Permission denied
$ chmod a+x b
chmod: cannot access `b': Permission denied
$ /bin/chmod a+x .
chmod: .: Permission denied
$ ll -d . b
ls: .: Permission denied
ls: b: Permission denied
$

WTF just happened there?! :-)

Apparently the permissions are being cached and not flushed immediately 
as far as access control, but are being returned accurately for 'ls'... 
that's pretty messed up. So I guess this failure is a red herring at 
least as far as anything being wrong with coreutils. Wow, that's a 
broken OS/kernel/driver/one-of-the-above... (Might be the NFS driver, 
since this didn't break when run on a local mount.)



Can you reproduce this bug with /bin/chmod?


Yup (See above).

I'll investigate the other failures, but if I can demonstrate that a: 
the OS is broken, and b: the OS's version of the same utility is 
similarly broken, I'll just leave my reports at that (unless someone 
objects to this plan).


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Re: Dawrin- why does pinky SIGBUS

2006-09-27 Thread mwoehlke
(Sigh. I sure wish gdb built (and worked) on Darwin, Apple's version 
insists on invoking a broken csh that bitches about my modern LS_COLORS.)


Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


#0  0x90007260 in strlen ()
#1  0x9000d1d8 in strdup ()
#2  0x393c in canon_host_r (host=0xfffc , cherror=0x8248) at canon-host.c:74


This suggest that this code in canon-host.c:

  hints.ai_flags = AI_CANONNAME;
  status = getaddrinfo (host, NULL, &hints, &res);
  if (!status)
{
  retval = strdup (res->ai_canonname);

set status to 0, but res->ai_canonname was NULL.  Can you verify
that this in fact happened?


(gdb)
69status = getaddrinfo (host, NULL, &hints, &res);
(gdb) step
70if (!status)
(gdb) print status
$1 = 0
(gdb) print *res
$2 = {
  ai_flags = 0,
  ai_family = 2,
  ai_socktype = 2,
  ai_protocol = 17,
  ai_addrlen = 16,
  ai_canonname = 0x0,
  ai_addr = 0x30b720,
  ai_next = 0x3009e0
}
(gdb)

Yup, that's what happened. getaddrinfo() broken?


Are you using the system getaddrinfo, or the one shipped with
coreutils?


Um... no idea? I un-tar'd, did './configure --prefix=mount>' and 'make'. So I'm using whatever that picks up? If it means 
anything, when I 'step'd in gdb at the getaddrinfo call, it stepped over 
rather than into (not that I entirely trust gdb 5.3 with Apple patches).


That said, given the address when I set a breakpoint there, I am 
guessing it is the system getaddrinfo?

(gdb) break getaddrinfo
Breakpoint 1 at 0x9005492c
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/install/gnu/alpha/src/coreutils-6.3/src/pinky
Reading symbols for shared libraries +.. done
Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
[snip]
Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
LoginName TTY  Idle   When Where

Breakpoint 1, 0x9005492c in getaddrinfo ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x9005492c in getaddrinfo ()
#1  0x2bd8 in print_entry (utmp_ent=0xb8c0) at pinky.c:305
#2  0x2bd8 in print_entry (utmp_ent=0x18013b0) at pinky.c:305
#3  0x320c in scan_entries (n=2, utmp_buf=0x18013b0, argc_names=0, 
argv_names=0xbb08) at pinky.c:476
#4  0x32a4 in short_pinky (filename=0x796c "/var/run/utmp", 
argc_names=25170864, argv_names=0xbb08) at pinky.c:494

#5  0x3684 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbb04) at pinky.c:622
(gdb)


Honestly I have never used pinky so I don't really care.


It's a sign of problems in the library, though.  It should
get fixed.


Clearly you talked me into it. :-)

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Darwin - chmod broken? (was: What to do with 'make check'?)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

  [for chmod/no-x]
  + mkdir -p a/b
  + cd a
  + chmod a-x . b
  + fail=1

This indicates that "chmod a-x . b" succeeded, but it should have
failed because it should have made "." unsearchable before attempting
to access "b" (aka "./b").  Again, can you please try to see what
system calls chmod is doing, with "ktrace -o /tmp/tr chmod a-x . b"?


You are looking for this, yes?
 10487 chmodCALL  chmod(0x2800600,0x1a4)
 10487 chmodNAMI  "."
 10487 chmodRET   chmod 0
 10487 chmodCALL  chmod(0x2800600,0x1a4)
 10487 chmodNAMI  "b"
 10487 chmodRET   chmod 0
 10487 chmodCALL  close(0x1)
 10487 chmodRET   close 0
 10487 chmodCALL  exit(0)

Does that look right? Is chmod (the program) supposed to re-evaluate its 
permissions before calling chmod() the second time (if so, that's not 
happening), or is the second chmod() supposed to fail (which would mean 
the OS is buggy)? If I am reading 'man 2 chmod' right, the second 
chmod() is expected to fail with EACCES?


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Dawrin- why does pinky SIGBUS (was: What to do with 'make check'?)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

[for power_darwin-local]
Why does pinky dump core?  What does ktrace say for it?


Well, for starters...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/install/gnu/power_darwin/bin/pinky
Reading symbols for shared libraries +.. done
Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
[snip many repetitions of the above]
Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
LoginName TTY  Idle   When Where

Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
0x90007260 in strlen ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x90007260 in strlen ()
#1  0x9000d1d8 in strdup ()
#2  0x393c in canon_host_r (host=0xfffc of bounds>, cherror=0x8248) at canon-host.c:74

#3  0x2df8 in print_entry (utmp_ent=0x0) at pinky.c:305
#4  0x342c in scan_entries (n=1, utmp_buf=0x18013d4, argc_names=0, 
argv_names=0xbb20) at pinky.c:476
#5  0x34c4 in short_pinky (filename=0x796c "/var/run/utmp", 
argc_names=25170900, argv_names=0xbb20) at pinky.c:494

#6  0x38a4 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbb1c) at pinky.c:622
(gdb) 



Honestly I have never used pinky so I don't really care. (WAG: 
print_entry is missing a check for NULL?) I'll take a look at some of 
the others with ktrace (hmm, why does the test that wants strace not 
know about ktrace?).


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Re: coreutils-6.2: various runtime problems on Darwin-8.7.0 HFS+ (including attachment this time)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

# using THRESHOLD = 150
$ tar xzf coreutils-6.3.tar.gz
$ until /path-to-rm -rf coreutils-6.3 ; do : ; done
# using THRESHOLD = 200 (default)
$ tar xzf coreutils-6.3.tar.gz
$ until /path-to-rm -rf coreutils-6.3 ; do : ; done
/path-to-rm: cannot remove directory `coreutils-6.3/m4':
Directory not empty
/path-to-rm: cannot remove directory `coreutils-6.3/lib':
Directory not empty

...so that is definitely the problem. Trying a few more values, I see:
150 - works
200 - broken
175 - works
190 - broken (but only in m4, not lib)
185 - works
188 - broken (same as 190)
187 - works

Honestly, I would probably go with 160-ish to be safe. :-)


Thanks.
I'll use 180.
The lower we go, the more of a performance penalty
we impose for directories with very many entries.

Already, in implementing remove.c that way, I've compromised
(however slightly) how GNU rm works in general, for the sake of
working reliably even on such broken file systems.


Have you considered making this conditional to broken Darwin versions? :-)

Anyway, just caught the check-in too, thanks.

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Re: What to do with 'make check'?

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

(Replying here, since this is now a reply to something like 3-4 posts)

Hey! I just noticed, the rm test ONLY fails on NFS. I will try the 
CONSECUTIVE_READDIR thing shortly. Meanwhile, here's everything that 
broke. There are now two master logs, -nfs and -local for what FS each 
one ran on. For each test that failed there is also a VERBOSE-yes log 
for that test (chgrp-basic was run on local, the rest on NFS).


Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Will do. Is it OK to bzip2 the results? Remember I expect to have
several (as many as 10) of these!


It's OK to bzip2 them.  If things get too long you can simply give us
a URL.


Hopefully they won't get that big (especially as I have no web space to 
post them to). I am attaching make check (8 failures) for:


$ uname -srvmpio
Darwin 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; 
root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc 
RackMac3,1 Darwin


I'll watch to see if the attachment gets stripped...

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Re: coreutils-6.2: various runtime problems on Darwin-8.7.0 HFS+ (including attachment this time)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

mwoehlke wrote:

mwoehlke wrote:

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[let me see if gmane lets me reply to posts]

gmane works great, it's the only way I read this list (and several
others). :-)

btw, thanks for the mails... I just built coreutils on Darwin 
also, and had a good number of 'make check' failures. I am also 
noticing

that after making coreutils (and some other packages, I think bash
was one), to remove the directory, I have to
'rm -rf coreutils-5.97' as many as four times before it fully goes
away. Odd that just doing it several times in succession works,
though.

Now, *that* is interesting.
Would you please see if you can reproduce that using an rm binary
built from coreutils-6.2?  I couldn't, when using an hfs partition
on Darwin 8.7.0.  The core of rm was seriously revamped between
coreutils-5.97 and 6.0.

I plan to, as soon as I get a chance. FYI this was on an NFS mount so
there might be some weird interaction with the NFS driver... although
I've built coreutils 5.97 on almost a dozen platforms and Darwin (both
x86 and PowerPC as I recall) is the only OS that's given me problems.


I was unable to reproduce that.  Tried both NFS and hfs.
If you can, please give details asap.  I expect to release
coreutils-6.3 very soon.
It'd be particularly useful to know how many files it removes
at each iteration.


Did you try with 5.97? I haven't tried 6.2 yet (will try to do that 
soon)... 


Ok, I just tried with the "latest" version you sent me (post-6.2, 
will-be-6.3 for the rest of the list) with the same results.


Hmm, and Darwin on x86 seems OK?

$ uname -srvmpio
Darwin 8.6.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.1: Tue Mar  7 16:55:45 PST 2006; 
root:xnu-792.9.22.obj~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386 iMac4,1 Darwin


Ah, but it's also a much newer Darwin... so...

I'm working on building test output (including verbose) for the entire 
suite for Darwin PowerPC (the same machine I did the last test on).


Ok, I have the 'check' output; it is 6 files (one master, five 
individual failed tests with VERBOSE=yes) and 43k. .tar.bz2'd it is 6k. 
Which form is preferred?


Also 'pinky' and 'help-version' failed; I couldn't figure out how to run 
these by themselves and figured these two probably weren't as important 
as the rm, cp, mv, and chmod failures (and the fifth was du).



[snip previous output]


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Re: coreutils-6.2: various runtime problems on Darwin-8.7.0 HFS+ (including attachment this time)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

mwoehlke wrote:

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[let me see if gmane lets me reply to posts]

gmane works great, it's the only way I read this list (and several
others). :-)

btw, thanks for the mails... I just built coreutils on Darwin also, 
and had a good number of 'make check' failures. I am also noticing

that after making coreutils (and some other packages, I think bash
was one), to remove the directory, I have to
'rm -rf coreutils-5.97' as many as four times before it fully goes
away. Odd that just doing it several times in succession works,
though.

Now, *that* is interesting.
Would you please see if you can reproduce that using an rm binary
built from coreutils-6.2?  I couldn't, when using an hfs partition
on Darwin 8.7.0.  The core of rm was seriously revamped between
coreutils-5.97 and 6.0.

I plan to, as soon as I get a chance. FYI this was on an NFS mount so
there might be some weird interaction with the NFS driver... although
I've built coreutils 5.97 on almost a dozen platforms and Darwin (both
x86 and PowerPC as I recall) is the only OS that's given me problems.


I was unable to reproduce that.  Tried both NFS and hfs.
If you can, please give details asap.  I expect to release
coreutils-6.3 very soon.
It'd be particularly useful to know how many files it removes
at each iteration.


Did you try with 5.97? I haven't tried 6.2 yet (will try to do that 
soon)... 


Ok, I just tried with the "latest" version you sent me (post-6.2, 
will-be-6.3 for the rest of the list) with the same results.


I'm working on building test output (including verbose) for the entire 
suite for Darwin PowerPC (the same machine I did the last test on).


> [snip previous output]

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Re: What to do with 'make check'?

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

how safe is running 'make check' as root?


In practice I think it's fairly safe.  But if you're at all worried
about it, I suggest running it under a virtual emulator.  After all,
the whole point of 'make check' is to find bugs, and what could a
buggy program do when run as root?


Hehe, well, since I don't have a virtual emulator (or certainly couldn't 
get one for all the systems I want to test), I think I'll skip this. I 
could probably run it on Linux but I trust others are already doing that.



2. I am expecting a number of failures. How should I report these?


The output of "make check" is a good start.  If a particular test fails,
it might help to re-run that verbosely.  E.g.,

   cd tests/mv
   VERBOSE=yes make TESTS=no-target-dir check


Will do. Is it OK to bzip2 the results? Remember I expect to have 
several (as many as 10) of these!



to what extent will I have to chase down bugs myself (or should I
post results first, and go from there)?


In some cases the fixes will be obvious.  In others, I'm afraid you'll
have to fix the bugs yourself and send us patches, as we don't have
access to your machines.


3. How important are the local-file-system tests?


That depends on how important local file systems are to applications
running on the intended hosts.


Ok... Is there a way to tell the tests to run in something other than 
the build directory?


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Re: coreutils-6.2: various runtime problems on Darwin-8.7.0 HFS+ (including attachment this time)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[let me see if gmane lets me reply to posts]

gmane works great, it's the only way I read this list (and several
others). :-)

btw, thanks for the mails... I just built coreutils on Darwin also, and
had a good number of 'make check' failures.



I am also noticing that
after making coreutils (and some other packages, I think bash was one),
to remove the directory, I have to 'rm -rf coreutils-5.97' as many as
four times before it fully goes away. Odd that just doing it several
times in succession works, though.


Now, *that* is interesting.
Would you please see if you can reproduce that using an rm binary
built from coreutils-6.2?  I couldn't, when using an hfs partition
on Darwin 8.7.0.  The core of rm was seriously revamped between
coreutils-5.97 and 6.0.


I plan to, as soon as I get a chance. FYI this was on an NFS mount so 
there might be some weird interaction with the NFS driver... although 
I've built coreutils 5.97 on almost a dozen platforms and Darwin (both 
x86 and PowerPC as I recall) is the only OS that's given me problems.


I also saved the 'make check' output to take a look at, but I will 
probably roll a 6.2 before I take a serious look at that sort of thing 
(no need to chase down bugs that are already fixed, after all :-)).


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Re: coreutils-6.2: various runtime problems on Darwin-8.7.0 HFS+ (including attachment this time)

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jim Meyering wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[let me see if gmane lets me reply to posts]

gmane works great, it's the only way I read this list (and several
others). :-)

btw, thanks for the mails... I just built coreutils on Darwin also, and
had a good number of 'make check' failures.
I am also noticing that
after making coreutils (and some other packages, I think bash was one),
to remove the directory, I have to 'rm -rf coreutils-5.97' as many as
four times before it fully goes away. Odd that just doing it several
times in succession works, though.

Now, *that* is interesting.
Would you please see if you can reproduce that using an rm binary
built from coreutils-6.2?  I couldn't, when using an hfs partition
on Darwin 8.7.0.  The core of rm was seriously revamped between
coreutils-5.97 and 6.0.

I plan to, as soon as I get a chance. FYI this was on an NFS mount so
there might be some weird interaction with the NFS driver... although
I've built coreutils 5.97 on almost a dozen platforms and Darwin (both
x86 and PowerPC as I recall) is the only OS that's given me problems.


I was unable to reproduce that.  Tried both NFS and hfs.
If you can, please give details asap.  I expect to release
coreutils-6.3 very soon.
It'd be particularly useful to know how many files it removes
at each iteration.


Did you try with 5.97? I haven't tried 6.2 yet (will try to do that 
soon)... Um, actually, I am probably not going to try until someone can 
tell me how the *&($ to test the exit code of 'make check' after I've 
piped it through 'tee' :-) - tips would be most welcome!


Easiest test is on coreutils itself...

$ uname -srvmpio
Darwin 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; 
root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc 
RackMac3,1 Darwin

$ rm --version
rm (GNU coreutils) 5.97
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software.  You may redistribute copies of it under the terms of
the GNU General Public License <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by Paul Rubin, David MacKenzie, Richard Stallman, and Jim Meyering.
$ ls coreutils-5.97
ls: coreutils-5.97: No such file or directory
$ tar xzf coreutils-5.97.tar.gz
$ find coreutils-5.97/ | wc -l
2788
$ rm -rf coreutils-5.97
rm: cannot remove directory `coreutils-5.97/m4': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove directory `coreutils-5.97/lib': Directory not empty
$ find coreutils-5.97/ | wc -l
173
$ rm -rf coreutils-5.97
$ find coreutils-5.97/ | wc -l
find: coreutils-5.97/: No such file or directory
0
$

(Again, NFS mount, about 60 GB, 28% used.)

Anything else? I could also post the full list of files left over after 
the first try...


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What to do with 'make check'?

2006-09-26 Thread mwoehlke
I am shortly going to try running 'make check' on about 10-12 platforms, 
but I have a few questions...


1. I should be able to get root access to all the build machines, but 
they are not my machines... how safe is running 'make check' as root?


2. I am expecting a number of failures. How should I report these? Post 
the entire 'make check' output, just the names of the failed tests, or 
something in-between? Is there other information (besides the build 
platform, obviously!) I should provide? I.e. to what extent will I have 
to chase down bugs myself (or should I post results first, and go from 
there)?


3. How important are the local-file-system tests? Running them will be 
more complicated if I have to find local drive space to build and run 
the tests (and will hurt my ability to automate the process).


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Re: coreutils-6.2: various runtime problems on Darwin-8.7.0 HFS+ (including attachment this time)

2006-09-25 Thread mwoehlke

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[let me see if gmane lets me reply to posts]


gmane works great, it's the only way I read this list (and several 
others). :-)


btw, thanks for the mails... I just built coreutils on Darwin also, and 
had a good number of 'make check' failures. I am also noticing that 
after making coreutils (and some other packages, I think bash was one), 
to remove the directory, I have to 'rm -rf coreutils-5.97' as many as 
four times before it fully goes away. Odd that just doing it several 
times in succession works, though.


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Re: [patch] Get coreutils 6.1 to build on a ANSI 89 compiler

2006-09-19 Thread mwoehlke

Bob Proulx wrote:

mwoehlke wrote:
Right. Most likely I will build the next "stable" coreutils across the 
board, at which point I expect I will probably file a few bug reports 
(or one, with many parts) detailing how to detect and enable c99 for 
various platforms (particularly on systems where the answer is an 
esoteric compiler option rather than 'c99').


Hmm...  You have stated what is often a common circular dependency.
When the code becomes perfect and won't change anymore then try it on
all of the peripheral platforms.  But those platforms are bound to
expose issues that we won't know about until you try it there.  A
circular dependency.  I am guilty of that myself at times.  But it
would be better for the project if you could try it while it is
developing and then report problems before it is declared to be
perfect.  Then the stable release really will work on that platform.


Sigh. Should've seen this coming. The problem is that I am maintaining a 
toolset for use by several people that (to be honest) may or may not 
realize they're using a custom toolset. For this reason, I am not going 
to put "into production" anything the developers do not believe is 
"stable" (most of the problems I run into are minor build errors, not 
show-stoppers; i.e. not things that affect my confidence that the 
program will behave as expected and intended). Plus it takes a good deal 
of time to build that many platforms, and I am doing this on the side.


But I guess you've talked me into it, if I get time.

What I am NOT going to do is install an "unstable" toolset. What I am 
willing to do is 'make' and 'make test'. (Or is it 'make check? I always 
forget :-).) Then I can bring up any test failures.


Checking the two most likely suspects, however; I don't see a 'c99' on 
NSK/OSS, and the help for 'cc' mentions 'c89', which is not a good sign. 
Irix however has a 'c99', and I *think* the rest of my set probably have 
some means of compiling c99.


As Paul noted gcc 3.x is enough and in the cases that I know about the
commercial vendor native C compilers also support declarations after
statements.  On HP-UX I build with the native C compiler and it
supports it.  On some platforms you may want to update gcc.  On others
you may have to use the patch.


I think OSS/NSK would need the patch. I'm not sure how inclined I am to 
try to build gcc on that platform... or even a new coreutils for that 
matter; building 5.97 was painful enough :-).


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Re: [patch] Get coreutils 6.1 to build on a ANSI 89 compiler

2006-09-18 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

people seem to want to only support GNU software
on the latest stable release of Linux


That may be true for other packages but it's not true of coreutils.
Coreutils is built fairly regularly on older systems, even systems
like Solaris 2.6 (released 1997) that are no longer supported by their
original suppliers.


I know, it just seems like a number of the conversations here about 
potentially-high-impact changes have been carried on as if Linux 2.6 was 
the only supported platform.


For instance, the recent conversation about openat, etc, mentioned 
corner cases that might cause a Linux system to not have /proc. What I 
don't recall seeing is ANY concern for systems that don't even *have* /proc.


Now I know that in this case we're talking about something where the 
emulation layer is reported to work well, but again, it's the 
*appearance* of not caring about other platforms that worries me. Since 
I don't have the ability to read the official developer's thoughts, I 
have to rely on what I see here, and when all I see is concern about 
Linux without concern for other platforms where I would expect to see 
some (even if only, "oh, yeah, and the emu layer will handle other 
OS's"), I get a little worried. :-)


At any rate, thank you both (Paul and Bob) for the reassurance that 
non-Linux is not forgotten. :-)


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Re: [patch] Get coreutils 6.1 to build on a ANSI 89 compiler

2006-09-18 Thread mwoehlke

Bob Proulx wrote:

mwoehlke wrote:
I have built coreutils (actually, a nice GNU suite plus a few others 
like VIM7) on over a half dozen platforms, including Solaris 2.7, Irix, 
HPUX 11.x, AIX... and of course Linux. These are "old" systems, but they 
are still used in production (we keep them because our customers still 
use them).


Hmm...  Are your customers also using the latest code on those
machines?  I would guess those are effectively stable appliances which
is why they are frozen there.  Running with the latest code is not
going to match their environment.  And if the customers were using the
latest software then I would pose the same question to them concerning
modifying it with upgrades.


Some have "issues" upgrading, yes, but many of them do upgrade. Some of 
them are also government, or otherwise have strange rules or problems 
regarding ability to upgrade (either hardware, software, or both).


(Since I'm essentially hijacking your request for comments, I'll take my 
other comments to Paul's much more succinct reply, and reply only to 
direct questions or things relevant to your original question.)


Now, to answer the original question, I *think* most of those have a C99 
compiler available, but without checking all ten OS/hardware 
combinations (not counting Cygwin, where I use the officially maintained 
toolchain), I can't say that with certainty.


How would you propose that we determine this information?  I can't
think of a better way than to make a coreutils release that relies
upon the desired c99 features, with an easy way to patch back to c89.
If there are no bug reports of any type then we can assume that no one
is using new coreutils on museum pieces.  If there are lots of real
and valid bug reports then we have our information.


Right. Most likely I will build the next "stable" coreutils across the 
board, at which point I expect I will probably file a few bug reports 
(or one, with many parts) detailing how to detect and enable c99 for 
various platforms (particularly on systems where the answer is an 
esoteric compiler option rather than 'c99').



I think this is okay because by definition if you are compiling source
code you have assumed the role of a developer, or at least a code
porter, and developers and code porters are assumed to have a higher
skill level than a non-developer.  This issue is well within reason to
expect them to be able to deal with effectively.  With the README
saying explicitly what needs to be done and the patch provided it is
very easy.  Perhaps too easy.


Right. We are in violent agreement. :-)

I'm not against making C99 a *soft* requirement (part of building that 
toolchain I mentioned was dealing with non-C99 compilers - not just with 
coreutils), especially if configure tries to find a C99 compiler if you 
didn't point it at one explicitly (how many OS's does this work with, 
btw?), but there are still systems used by real people (and by big 
companies!) that certainly don't have C99 by default.


So let's turn this into useful information.  Among the platforms that
you are using do you have any that are not capable of using a c99
compiler?


Again, without checking I won't know, but I think you've got the right 
strategy here. As mentioned above, once there is a "stable" release out 
(sounds like it will be relatively soon), I expect to do a round of 
builds, at which point I'll be able to tell you what broke and 
(hopefully) how to fix it.


Checking the two most likely suspects, however; I don't see a 'c99' on 
NSK/OSS, and the help for 'cc' mentions 'c89', which is not a good sign. 
Irix however has a 'c99', and I *think* the rest of my set probably have 
some means of compiling c99.



I am not sure coreutils would be doing a service to the community to
add automatic back patching of the code on systems without c99
available.  Having to do it explicitly today acts as a wakeup-call to
people that they should be thinking and planning for how to deal with
the support issue for their ancient platform.


Nope, no disagreements here. :-)

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Re: [patch] Get coreutils 6.1 to build on a ANSI 89 compiler

2006-09-18 Thread mwoehlke

Bob Proulx wrote:

Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

The ANSI C 89 compilers refuses code that fail to declare variables at
the start of the block.  I found this problem on RHEL 2.1.  The code
refused to compile, and I have to move the variables up to the start
of the block to get it building.


One of the reasons for the "soft" requirement of C99, I say soft
because Jim included an easy way to patch the code back to C89, was
because is it believed that non-C99 capable systems are now so old as
to be either obsolete or hobby only systems.  Having a default
compilation fail on those system is one way of discovering any real
system that actually is still alive out of hiding.

With that in mind may I ask a few questions?  (Please make sure to
keep the mailng list address in the reply.)

 * What architecture are you using RHEL 2.1 AS on?
 uname -m
 * What compiler is available on that platform?
 gcc --version
 * What libc is available there?
 ldd --version

And now the big question.  Could you say a few words about why you are
using that platform?  RHEL 2.1 AS released in May 2002.  That is four
years old now.  There are certainly good reasons to keep using a
stable platform.  But you are trying to compile a new coreutils there
which implies that you are not keeping that platform stable and are
instead trying to pull it forward.  Wouldn't it be better in that case
to upgrade to a more recent system?


Ok, I've been wanting to say something for a while, and you just gave me 
an opening.


I have built coreutils (actually, a nice GNU suite plus a few others 
like VIM7) on over a half dozen platforms, including Solaris 2.7, Irix, 
HPUX 11.x, AIX... and of course Linux. These are "old" systems, but they 
are still used in production (we keep them because our customers still 
use them).


I keep noticing that people seem to want to only support GNU software on 
the latest stable release of Linux, and that really bothers me. The 
great thing about GNU is that is isn't limited to just Linux, and I 
think continuing to support platforms that are still used in production 
environments is important.


Now, to answer the original question, I *think* most of those have a C99 
compiler available, but without checking all ten OS/hardware 
combinations (not counting Cygwin, where I use the officially maintained 
toolchain), I can't say that with certainty.


I'm not against making C99 a *soft* requirement (part of building that 
toolchain I mentioned was dealing with non-C99 compilers - not just with 
coreutils), especially if configure tries to find a C99 compiler if you 
didn't point it at one explicitly (how many OS's does this work with, 
btw?), but there are still systems used by real people (and by big 
companies!) that certainly don't have C99 by default.


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Re: Coretutils tail command no longer correctly accepting +2 as a parameter

2006-09-15 Thread mwoehlke

Mike Frysinger wrote:

On Friday 15 September 2006 10:48, mwoehlke wrote:

Just for the record, I was hit with this too; when I built 5.97 across
our supported platforms (about nine combinations of hardware and OS), a
script using the old '-#'/'+#' syntax broke. I added '-n' to it, but
that in turn caused it to break with several non-GNU versions of
head/tail that don't recognize '-n'; IOW, it broke compatibility with
non-GNU versions of these utilities.


wrong; this is not a GNU issue ... go complain to the POSIX people who write 
the specs that coreutils [correctly] follows


Is is too a GNU issue! It's not POSIX's fault that you're the only ones 
that can follow their standards correctly! ;-)


And in case I failed to make it clear (which it seems I did; sorry), I'm 
not complaining (or even asking for anything - nope, not even an 
explanation); I'm just making an observation about this change, as I 
said originally, "for the record".



I haven't re-tested with 6.x, but for now what I've been doing is
sticking with '-n' and requiring this particular script to use GNU
head/tail. After all, it's *SO* much easier to write "portable" scripts
when all the platforms you run the script on have not only the same GNU
toolchain, but the same *versions* of GNU tools :-).


you might be able to get away with using sed in some places ...
`head -10` == `head -n 10` == `sed -n 1,+9p`
-mike


Actually, I think I'd switched from sed to head/tail (because I have to 
suspect head/tail are faster) when I started running into this. :-)


Anyway, no worries, I know how to come up with work-arounds; for now, as 
I said, my solution is "use GNU head/tail" (it's an internal script, so 
I can get away with that). I'm just taking notes out loud.


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Re: Coretutils tail command no longer correctly accepting +2 as a parameter

2006-09-15 Thread mwoehlke

Eric Blake wrote:

According to Bruce Baxter on 9/14/2006 10:42 PM:

The GNU coreutils version 5.97 (included with Fedora Core 5 in RPM
coreutils-5.97-1.2) returns an error, for example:

 tail: cannot open `+2' for reading: No such file or directory


This is not a bug in coreutils, but a consequence of your choice
(inherited from Fedora Core 5's choice) of POSIX compliance.  This is
becoming a FAQ; see my reply on this same subject from last week:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-09/msg00035.html


Just for the record, I was hit with this too; when I built 5.97 across 
our supported platforms (about nine combinations of hardware and OS), a 
script using the old '-#'/'+#' syntax broke. I added '-n' to it, but 
that in turn caused it to break with several non-GNU versions of 
head/tail that don't recognize '-n'; IOW, it broke compatibility with 
non-GNU versions of these utilities.


I haven't re-tested with 6.x, but for now what I've been doing is 
sticking with '-n' and requiring this particular script to use GNU 
head/tail. After all, it's *SO* much easier to write "portable" scripts 
when all the platforms you run the script on have not only the same GNU 
toolchain, but the same *versions* of GNU tools :-).


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Re: md5sum extra option --silent request

2006-09-05 Thread mwoehlke

Jon Grant wrote:

Could an extra option be added to md5sum to only display file sums which
don't fail verification when checking?


Wouldn't that be 'only display sums that *DO* fail'? Especially given 
your description below? One of these statements is wrong; please clarify 
which you meant. :-)



For example the addition of this extra argument

-s, --silent
  only report errors

Then we can check with md5sum -c -s

I would be happy to code this and submit a patch if you would be happy
with the feature?


While you're at it, how about a feature to also silently ignore files 
that don't exist when checking against a checksum file? This would be 
useful when downloading parts of a project (say, KDE) that provides a 
monolithic list of checksums to easily get a 'success' or 'failure', 
instead of having to parse out failures due to missing files.


I might be able to help out with said feature, so like you, Jon, I'm 
soliciting comments...


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Re: coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-09-05 Thread mwoehlke

Eric Blake wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

According to mwoehlke on 8/31/2006 10:18 AM:

Look more closely at the code.  The reason linux was failing was because
it was not doing enough work, because the d_type shortcut let it skip a
stat where one was needed.  Platforms that did not have the bug are not
doing extra work, because they have already done the stat (not having a
d_type shortcut to rely on).  So #ifdef'ing on linux is not the right
approach, and Jim's patch was appropriate.

Ok, so if I am understanding correctly, you are saying that on
not-Linux, one of the other conditions in the 'if' will always cause the
block to be evaluated?


The bug in coloring directories according to their mode bits is that you
need to know the mode bits.  The only way to get mode bits is to call
[l]stat.  On newer Linux, and any other OS that provides d_type in
readdir, the bug was that we were not calling stat because "readdir's
d_type tells us it is a directory, we know what to color it".  On other
platforms, like cygwin, that do not provide d_type, we had already called
stat to figure out whether the file is a directory, so we already had the
mode bits.  The bug, then, was that Linux exposed a flaw in our
optimization logic, but the same flaw is present on any other system with
d_type - namely, if we know that a readdir entry is a directory, we STILL
need a stat when coloring directories according to mode bits.  Ultimately,
the correct behavior is that for ALL platforms, coloring directories
requires a stat at some point or another, and it was not a Linux-specific
bug (it just so happened that Linux was the only platform you tested that
had d_type and thus showed the bug).  Conditionalizing your fix on
__linux__ would have been wrong, had some other platform come up to speed
and implemented a reliable d_type.


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Re: coreutils 'rm /' incompatibility with 2006-06-30 draft POSIX

2006-08-31 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

The 2006-06-30 draft of POSIX has this new requirement for 'rm':
[snip]
  * The check for root's dev and ino is done recursively, but surely
it should be done only at the top level?  (I'm not sure why it's
done recursively now.)  The POSIX requirement talks only about the
top level, and I don't see how you could recurse to the root.


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Re: coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-08-31 Thread mwoehlke

Eric Blake wrote:

According to mwoehlke on 8/28/2006 9:58 AM:

I don't see why the behavior of 'ls' should depend on whether the
Linux kernel is used.  Shouldn't coreutils 'ls' behave the same way on
FreeBSD or Solaris?

The *old* behavior depends on the kernel. Although I can't vouch for
FreeBSD, I tested on Solaris (both SPARC 2.6 and x86 10) and several
other platforms, and in 5.97 / 6.1, Linux was the *only* platform I
tested on which it did not work. All of which is in the Savannah comments.

I #ifdef'd the change to avoid doing unnecessary work on platforms that
work correctly without the extra call.


Look more closely at the code.  The reason linux was failing was because
it was not doing enough work, because the d_type shortcut let it skip a
stat where one was needed.  Platforms that did not have the bug are not
doing extra work, because they have already done the stat (not having a
d_type shortcut to rely on).  So #ifdef'ing on linux is not the right
approach, and Jim's patch was appropriate.


Ok, so if I am understanding correctly, you are saying that on 
not-Linux, one of the other conditions in the 'if' will always cause the 
block to be evaluated?


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Re: Suggested change to tee manpage to show usefulness

2006-08-30 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

The Wanderer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jim Meyering wrote:

...

It sounds like you don't like some aspect of the mailing list
configuration.  If you provide details, with suggestions for how and
why to change it, we might be able to help.

I appreciate the attitude, but frankly, I doubt it. The policy to which
I object is the practice of not automatically directing replies to list
messages back to the list - that is, the practice of not putting the
list address in the Reply-To header.


Oh, *that*.
Even if I wanted to change that setting, I'm pretty sure that doing
so would cause more problems than it would solve.


FWIW, I'm subscribed to lists on four "groups", and only KDE appears to 
override 'Reply-To:' (but I guess that means that there is precedent). 
If you really can't deal with *this* list not doing so, then I suggest 
news.gmane.org.


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Re: coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-08-28 Thread mwoehlke

Jim Meyering wrote:

Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mike Frysinger wrote:

On Thursday 24 August 2006 17:03, mwoehlke wrote:

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=15043

Is this going to get fixed, or what? There is a trivial fix available,
it just needs someone that knows how to make it 'Linux-only'.

#if __linux__

#endif
-mike

Ok, thanks. I a: wasn't sure of a macro that would be defined on Linux
(is there a list of these things anywhere? Preferably covering most
major platforms?), and b: wasn't sure if people here appreciated such
patches.

If #ifdef is OK, this should do it (works for me with 5.97 and 6.1):

Thanks for pursuing that.
No #ifdef needed.
Here's the patch I'll probably commit (destined for the trunk):


I've checked this in on the trunk:
[snip changelog]


Thanks, although as noted elsewhere in this thread I still would have 
made it '#ifdef linux'. At any rate, it will work on Linux, and if it 
does extra work elsewhere, well, I can live with that. :-)


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Re: coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-08-28 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

If #ifdef is OK, this should do it (works for me with 5.97 and 6.1):


As I said, I don't really understand dircolors (but I'll go ahead
and remark anyway :-).

I don't see why the behavior of 'ls' should depend on whether the
Linux kernel is used.  Shouldn't coreutils 'ls' behave the same way on
FreeBSD or Solaris?


The *old* behavior depends on the kernel. Although I can't vouch for 
FreeBSD, I tested on Solaris (both SPARC 2.6 and x86 10) and several 
other platforms, and in 5.97 / 6.1, Linux was the *only* platform I 
tested on which it did not work. All of which is in the Savannah comments.


I #ifdef'd the change to avoid doing unnecessary work on platforms that 
work correctly without the extra call.


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Re: coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-08-28 Thread mwoehlke

Mike Frysinger wrote:

On Friday 25 August 2006 11:14, mwoehlke wrote:

Ok, thanks. I a: wasn't sure of a macro that would be defined on Linux
(is there a list of these things anywhere?


echo "" | gcc -E -dD -
-mike


Thanks! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with all non-GNU 
compilers, but it's still really useful. :-)


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Re: coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-08-25 Thread mwoehlke

Mike Frysinger wrote:

On Thursday 24 August 2006 17:03, mwoehlke wrote:

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=15043

Is this going to get fixed, or what? There is a trivial fix available,
it just needs someone that knows how to make it 'Linux-only'.


#if __linux__

#endif
-mike


Ok, thanks. I a: wasn't sure of a macro that would be defined on Linux 
(is there a list of these things anywhere? Preferably covering most 
major platforms?), and b: wasn't sure if people here appreciated such 
patches.


If #ifdef is OK, this should do it (works for me with 5.97 and 6.1):

*** ls.c.old2006-08-25 08:10:54.0 -0700
--- ls.c2006-08-25 08:12:49.0 -0700
***
*** 2555,2560 
--- 2555,2563 

if (command_line_arg
|| format_needs_stat
+ #ifdef __linux__
+   || (type == directory && print_with_color)
+ #endif
|| (print_inode
  && (inode == NOT_AN_INODE_NUMBER
  /* When dereferencing symlinks, the inode must come from

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Re: Building coreutils in Linux From Scratch

2006-08-25 Thread mwoehlke

Paul Eggert wrote:

mwoehlke writes:

I'd like to jump in and make a comment here... I have coreutils (5.97)
built on nine different platforms, but haven't even attempted to
tackle procps as it is not auto*-based (and so far I have not been
motivated to track down how to set up the build correctly, much less
chase down bugs and build errors). Unless procps is fixed/improved,
dropping these from coreutils means - from my POV - that they will be
gone entirely.


I know of no plans do drop them.


That was the impression I got from Matthew Burgess' post; apparently 
that is non-authoritative?



'uptime' is a bit of a curiosity.  On my platform (Debian stable)
coreutils 'uptime' does its work with fewer system calls than procps
'uptime', so I don't know why anyone would prefer procps uptime.
(Maybe someone else can chime in.)

For 'kill', most people use Bash's 'kill', not coreutils's or
procps's, so they probably don't care about 'kill' one way or another.
At some point I was planning to merge coreutils 'kill' back into Bash
but it's low priority.


A good point, however a number of people around here use csh instead of 
bash, so I think it is still valuable (to me, anyway).



'su' is the only one we're thinking of dropping from coreutils.  Do
you use coreutils 'su'?  'su' is so intertangled with security gorp
that these days it's pretty hard to port separately from the rest of
the gorp.


Doesn't look like it; it seems 'su' didn't get built on *any* of the 
systems I built coreutils on (even Linux? ...but I might have done that 
intentionally and just forgot). At any rate, I know 'su' is problematic 
and don't object to dropping that one. Certainly not if you're only 
dropping it from non-Linux builds (since it sounds like some other 
people would mind it going away entirely).


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Re: Building coreutils in Linux From Scratch

2006-08-24 Thread mwoehlke

Mike Frysinger wrote:

On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:33, mwoehlke wrote:

Matthew Burgess wrote:

We could just as easily patch procps to prevent it from installing its
versions of those two programs, but as we're preventing installation of
`su' as it is, it made sense to suppress coreutils kill and uptime in
the same patch.

I'd like to jump in and make a comment here... I have coreutils (5.97)
built on nine different platforms, but haven't even attempted to tackle
procps as it is not auto*-based (and so far I have not been motivated to
track down how to set up the build correctly, much less chase down bugs
and build errors). Unless procps is fixed/improved, dropping these from
coreutils means - from my POV - that they will be gone entirely.


the procps maintainer will never accept autotools (his words, not mine) ... i 
sent him a patch to autotool the build system and it was rejected ;)

-mike


I can understand that given that it is only for Linux... but that means 
that procps will likely only, ever, be supported on Linux, which is 
unfortunate. (And yes, I know that is likely to be true anyway.)


Which, as I said, is IMO a good reason to keep 'kill' and 'uptime' 
(especially 'uptime') in coreutils; otherwise you are essentially 
removing software packages.


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coreutils-6.1: needs 'ls' patch (bug #15043)

2006-08-24 Thread mwoehlke

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=15043

Is this going to get fixed, or what? There is a trivial fix available, 
it just needs someone that knows how to make it 'Linux-only'.


I've tested the fix against 5.97.

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Re: Building coreutils in Linux From Scratch

2006-08-24 Thread mwoehlke

Matthew Burgess wrote:
We could just as easily patch procps to prevent it from installing its 
versions of those two programs, but as we're preventing installation of 
`su' as it is, it made sense to suppress coreutils kill and uptime in 
the same patch.


I'd like to jump in and make a comment here... I have coreutils (5.97) 
built on nine different platforms, but haven't even attempted to tackle 
procps as it is not auto*-based (and so far I have not been motivated to 
track down how to set up the build correctly, much less chase down bugs 
and build errors). Unless procps is fixed/improved, dropping these from 
coreutils means - from my POV - that they will be gone entirely.


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