Re: Aw: Re: Several notation errors in bagpipe.ly

2015-06-08 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:

 On 6/7/15 9:45 AM, Federico Bruni f...@inventati.org wrote:

Thanks Oliver

The correct email address is bug-lilypond@gnu.org
The normal procedure is that the Bug Squad will open a new issue in the
tracker if the errors are confirmed.
I cannot comment on the changes proposed, sine I don't know anything
about bagpipe music. I hope others will.

 I cannot comment on the changes either, but it seems like we have an
 expert opinion that the changes are correct.

The main question we need to address then is whether there is reasonable
suspicion that people relied on the previous behavior, possibly by
figuring out the names of commands to use by looking at the charts.

Are any users of bagpipe.ly known/reachable with whom we could discuss
how to proceed for making this change?  Are convert-ly rules advisable?
Or is it more likely that existing music would actually get closer to
the writer's actual musical intent?

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: Aw: Re: Several notation errors in bagpipe.ly

2015-06-08 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 8 June 2015 at 10:48, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:

 On 6/7/15 9:45 AM, Federico Bruni f...@inventati.org wrote:

Thanks Oliver

The correct email address is bug-lilypond@gnu.org
The normal procedure is that the Bug Squad will open a new issue in the
tracker if the errors are confirmed.
I cannot comment on the changes proposed, sine I don't know anything
about bagpipe music. I hope others will.

 I cannot comment on the changes either, but it seems like we have an
 expert opinion that the changes are correct.

 The main question we need to address then is whether there is reasonable
 suspicion that people relied on the previous behavior, possibly by
 figuring out the names of commands to use by looking at the charts.

 Are any users of bagpipe.ly known/reachable with whom we could discuss
 how to proceed for making this change?  Are convert-ly rules advisable?
 Or is it more likely that existing music would actually get closer to
 the writer's actual musical intent?

I am the author of bagpipe.ly. Good to see someone looking over this
all these years. I choose the irritating names a long time ago and used
them without caring much if they represented correct terminology. I will
have a thorough look at the suggested changes as soon as I can,
but they do look reasonable.

I am not sure about what user base we may have for bagpipe.ly, but I
have had contact with some users at least. Extensive renaming of existing
movements can of course easily be implemented by a convert-ly rule,
but updating the user's memory of what to type to get the desired
result is perhaps not quite as simple.

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Sven Axelsson
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Re: Aw: Re: Several notation errors in bagpipe.ly

2015-06-07 Thread Carl Sorensen




-- Messaggio inoltrato --

Da: Oliver Briede o.bri...@web.de
Oggetto: Aw: Re: Several notation errors in bagpipe.ly
Data: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:20:31 +0200
A: Federico Bruni f...@inventati.org
Cc: Julia Meihöfer j.meihoe...@googlemail.com

Hello Federico,

we attached the corrected bagpipe.ly version 2.19. All changes are
commented with the introdutction @JO.


Thank you for your careful work.

It's very convenient for review to have the old lines commented out and
the new lines added, along with a comment of why it's that way.

In terms of us modifying the version in the lilypond distribution, it
would be much easier to just have the file as it should be, with all of
the wrong items eliminated and the right items included.

Could you please prepare a copy of the file in that format?

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Aw: Re: Several notation errors in bagpipe.ly

2015-06-07 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 6/7/15 9:45 AM, Federico Bruni f...@inventati.org wrote:

Thanks Oliver

The correct email address is bug-lilypond@gnu.org
The normal procedure is that the Bug Squad will open a new issue in the
tracker if the errors are confirmed.
I cannot comment on the changes proposed, sine I don't know anything
about bagpipe music. I hope others will.

I cannot comment on the changes either, but it seems like we have an
expert opinion that the changes are correct.


If you know the basics of Git, you may provide a patch against master,
so that developers can easily see what you want to change (the attached
file may be ignored...). You find the information here:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/commits-and-pa
tches

I will be happy to submit a patch, so Oliver and Julia do not have to, if
they would rather not.
Please let me know.

Thanks,

Carl


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