Re: [BVARC] its official.
LOTS of fun can be had now and over the next few years on 10 meters. Easy to home-brew or, if you want to buy, a Sirio m-400 about $80, some coax and a 10foot piece of schedule 80 and you've got something quite adequate. WA3NZA On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:26 PM M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just > VooDoo. > after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I > have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be > made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum > up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength > section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the > original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you > like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. > can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out > magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or > should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to > trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and > trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe > required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, > because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise > or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six > wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. > did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or > without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. > (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.) > > so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a > perfect antenna. > > Marc > Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
The plasma antenna was patented in 1919, but wasn't really practical until recently. On 2/16/23 20:09, Luke Ritter via BVARC wrote: Probably possible. Just a highly RF transmitter optimized tesla coil. Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> *From:* BVARC on behalf of Rick Hiller via BVARC *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2023 5:26:51 PM *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB *Cc:* Rick Hiller *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] its official. How about the plasma antenna? Sent from my i-Thingamajig On Feb 16, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote: I personally like the sea water antenna. Sea Water Antenna <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ> Sea Water Antenna <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 04:47:07 PM CST, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC wrote: On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here:https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Ham Radio gains one more antenna experimenter!!Sent from my i-ThingamajigOn Feb 17, 2023, at 8:45 AM, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:thats it, I threw out an impossible wild idea and you all called my bluff, i am done reading, I am just going to start wiring things up and passing current through them and see what happens, wish me luck because clearly that is how you make an antenna, rub a leprechauns belly and throw electrons at the rainbow.marc.zombified, electrified, and stupefied.On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:58 PM Travis Burgess via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/11/18/198879/navy-antenna-using-seawater-instead-of-metal/ Navy Antenna Using Seawater instead of Metal The Electrolytic Fluid Antenna has a range of 30 miles and could be used on sea or land. www.technologyreview.com Travis K5HTB From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> on behalf of Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:46 PM To: M Reiter via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <ka8...@ka8kpn.org> Subject: Re: [BVARC] its official. On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio ClubBVARC mailing listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.orgPublicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
thats it, I threw out an impossible wild idea and you all called my bluff, i am done reading, I am just going to start wiring things up and passing current through them and see what happens, wish me luck because clearly that is how you make an antenna, rub a leprechauns belly and throw electrons at the rainbow. marc. zombified, electrified, and stupefied. On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:58 PM Travis Burgess via BVARC wrote: > > https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/11/18/198879/navy-antenna-using-seawater-instead-of-metal/ > Navy Antenna Using Seawater instead of Metal > <https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/11/18/198879/navy-antenna-using-seawater-instead-of-metal/> > The Electrolytic Fluid Antenna has a range of 30 miles and could be used > on sea or land. > www.technologyreview.com > Travis > K5HTB > -- > *From:* BVARC on behalf of Jonathan Guthrie, > KA8KPN via BVARC > *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:46 PM > *To:* M Reiter via BVARC > *Cc:* Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] its official. > > > On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > > I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not > so. > > Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic > conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air > > > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Probably possible. Just a highly RF transmitter optimized tesla coil. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: BVARC on behalf of Rick Hiller via BVARC Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 5:26:51 PM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Cc: Rick Hiller Subject: Re: [BVARC] its official. How about the plasma antenna? Sent from my i-Thingamajig On Feb 16, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote: I personally like the sea water antenna. Sea Water Antenna<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ> [https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/youtube.png] Sea Water Antenna On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 04:47:07 PM CST, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC wrote: On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Absolutely beautiful, and hilarious Sir! As a relative newbie, I’ve also been reading, studying, and actually attempting to build, and test, a couple of different antenna designs… While I truly am enjoying the process, and the experience, admittedly, you’re diatribe tickled my funny bone. I also share much of your perspective on this topic. Ironically, as an “OG” computer engineer, I’ve spent most of my career & life, trying to prevent signals from coupling, or radiating from either silicon devices, or from the PCB’s that they are mounted on Necessary for the obvious reasons. Hence, getting into the “hobby”, I had hoped that building antenna devices to intentionally radiate, would be less obscure, than aspects of my job… I like a rather interesting challenge, so why not try it, right? 1-My 1st attempt was a 70cm, 7 element quad. Ironically, after completion, and minor tweaks, it actually tested out as expected. I was using a VNA to examine its characteristics. Remarkably, in receive mode, it does seem to work quite well, even well directionally. However, regardless of my testing, I do not have the nerve to actually key the mic, without fear of smoking my final amps at 420-450MHz. (Lol) 2-The 2nd effort has been an attempt at building a 10m coax double Bazooka. This antenna has been a bit more interesting, at least with respect to “tuning and pruning” portion of the process. It looked like fun project, so I’ve made several attempts to get it properly aligned at 28.85MHz. It’s close now, and amazingly, I’ve managed to get the SWR down to 1.016:1, at 28.750MHz. It even has a reasonable impedance, measuring ~55 ohms w/1.06nF of capacitance.) (But, I will not key the mic with it either, for fear of destroying my rig finals.) Using it, I have now had the pleasure to listen to DX’s from many far-away places with the results the project. The most recent being a DX from Maryland to Chile, and I could actually hear both ends of the discussion. No doubt, these good folks are cranking serious power, and punching it out on beam mounted towers, to propagate those distances. This is too much fun to listen to these far away conversations. However, again, I don’t trust the results of “my” antenna work, lest I I destroy my finals. But, it seems like it actually is pretty good for listening! (I think that I’ll purchase a “real antenna”!) Bill Walker > On Feb 16, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Ameenah007 via BVARC wrote: > > > Brilliant Sir. Simply Brilliant. Best explanation I've ever read. > > Ameenah > AC5Rx > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:26 PM M Reiter via BVARC wrote: >> Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just >> VooDoo. >> after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I >> have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be >> made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum >> up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength >> section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the >> original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you >> like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. can >> be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out >> magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or >> should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to >> trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and >> trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe >> required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, >> because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise >> or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six >> wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did >> i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without >> loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course >> you dont need this either because radios do this for you.) >> >> so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a >> perfect antenna. >> >> Marc >> Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO >> >> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club >> >> BVARC mailing list >> BVARC@bvarc.org >> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >> Publicly available archives are available here: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
Re: [BVARC] its official.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/11/18/198879/navy-antenna-using-seawater-instead-of-metal/ Navy Antenna Using Seawater instead of Metal<https://www.technologyreview.com/2010/11/18/198879/navy-antenna-using-seawater-instead-of-metal/> The Electrolytic Fluid Antenna has a range of 30 miles and could be used on sea or land. www.technologyreview.com Travis K5HTB From: BVARC on behalf of Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:46 PM To: M Reiter via BVARC Cc: Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN Subject: Re: [BVARC] its official. On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
How about the plasma antenna?Sent from my i-ThingamajigOn Feb 16, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Mike Hardwick via BVARC wrote: I personally like the sea water antenna.Sea Water AntennaSea Water Antenna On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 04:47:07 PM CST, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC wrote: On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote:> I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so.Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of airBrazos Valley Amateur Radio ClubBVARC mailing listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.orgPublicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio ClubBVARC mailing listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.orgPublicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
I personally like the sea water antenna. Sea Water Antenna | | | | | | | | | | | Sea Water Antenna | | | On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 04:47:07 PM CST, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC wrote: On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas > must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
On 2/16/23 12:25, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. Not so. Any conductor will work as an antenna, including nonmetallic conductors. I've even heard of antennas that are made of air Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
One of the few times I've seen most of the responding BVARC hams on this forum in nearly but not wholly, in steady but variable agreement. Yahoo! JP K5JPP > On 02/16/2023 12:47 PM Rick Hiller via BVARC wrote: > > > Disagree. Not Voo Doo.RF and anything associated with it has always > been FM.F….’n Magic. > W5RH > > Sent from my i-Thingamajig > > > On Feb 16, 2023, at 12:26 PM, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > > > > > > Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just > > VooDoo. > > after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I > > have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be > > made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum > > up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength > > section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the > > original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you > > like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. > > can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out > > magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or > > should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to > > trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and > > trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe > > required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, > > because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise > > or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six > > wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. > > did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or > > without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. > > (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.) > > > > so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a > > perfect antenna. > > > > Marc > > Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO > > > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > > > BVARC mailing list > > BVARC@bvarc.org > > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > Publicly available archives are available here: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Disagree. Not Voo Doo.RF and anything associated with it has always been FM.F….’n Magic. W5RH Sent from my i-Thingamajig > On Feb 16, 2023, at 12:26 PM, M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > > > Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just > VooDoo. > after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I > have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be > made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum > up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength > section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the > original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you > like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. can > be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out > magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or > should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to trim > your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and trim some > more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe required but dont > use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, because they may be > ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise or counter clockwise > or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six wires in a mystical > configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did i mention the magic > ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without loops to make > something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course you dont need > this either because radios do this for you.) > > so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a > perfect antenna. > > Marc > Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Brilliant Sir. Simply Brilliant. Best explanation I've ever read. Ameenah AC5Rx On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:26 PM M Reiter via BVARC wrote: > Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just > VooDoo. > after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I > have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be > made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum > up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength > section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the > original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you > like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. > can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out > magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or > should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to > trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and > trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe > required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, > because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise > or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six > wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. > did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or > without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. > (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.) > > so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a > perfect antenna. > > Marc > Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Rick Hiller, all those Radio Hotel articles on antennas have been summed up succinctly by Marc... 73MarkK5MGJ On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 12:34:46 PM CST, Darren Harrison via BVARC wrote: Nice! :) Darren W5AKCFrom: BVARC on behalf of M Reiter via BVARC Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 12:25:27 PM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Cc: M Reiter Subject: [BVARC] its official. Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just VooDoo.after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.) so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a perfect antenna. MarcZombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
Re: [BVARC] its official.
Nice! :) Darren W5AKC From: BVARC on behalf of M Reiter via BVARC Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 12:25:27 PM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Cc: M Reiter Subject: [BVARC] its official. Yes I can now say with certainty that all antenna science is actually just VooDoo. after reading 100s of pages on an equal number of antenna configurations I have determined that the only common denominator is that antennas must be made from metal. and someone will let me know that is also not so. to sum up my research you must have a 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, 3/8, 3/4 full wavelength section at some angle to something else that is larger or smaller than the original it must be between touching the earth or 200ft high whichever you like more. it should be horizontal or vertical or an angle in-between. can be made from wire or tubing of copper or aluminum but do not rule out magnesium. it must be an open or closed circuit it definitely should or should not be resonate, SWR is bad, but a little is ok. dont forget to trim your antenna until you have trimmed too much then add some back and trim some more. A balun unun unbalunousbulbulous, is absolutely maybe required but dont use one, they are rings of mystery metal called ferite, because they may be ferous and may be magic, they should be wound clockwise or counter clockwise or both and may have 2 but can have as many as six wires in a mystical configuration that can not be shown in 2 dimensions. did i mention the magic ladder wire or 75-400 or more ohm coax with or without loops to make something called ohms all nice and matchy matchy. (oof course you dont need this either because radios do this for you.) so there you have it, all you need to know to get out there and make a perfect antenna. Marc Zombie Ham Operator, ki5ZHO Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
