Re: Cake 2 : Any sort of automatic schema creation from models?

2011-01-28 Thread maxarbos
I read through the very minimal bake command documentation at: 9.1 and
9.2 in the docs, but it's pretty superficial.
The generation of the schema is a pretty big deal i think and
something that should be highlighted a little more, if this is what it
can do.

When I started with cake 1.3 a few months ago, I didnt see anything
that outlined this function. Going through some of the tutorials were
pretty lacking as well.

If there is someplace that has better information on this process,
please let me know and I would love to review it.

Thanks.

On Jan 27, 1:38 am, Ryan Schmidt google-2...@ryandesign.com wrote:
 On Jan 26, 2011, at 00:48, maxarbos wrote:

  So would the model be automatically be built with the correct
  properties and types by telling it which table to read from?

 That's what cake bake is all about, isn't it? Have you tried it?

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Re: Cake 2 : Any sort of automatic schema creation from models?

2011-01-28 Thread maxarbos
I was responding to the the post from Ryan about 'bake' doing what I
was asking for. When I 'run' a project in grails, that is when the
table construction from a model is done, so i thought there was more
to 'bake' than I had originally thought.

I did go through the blog tutorial as well as the docs on how to
create a model. And from what I remember, in both places I had to
create the db table myself.

You give the docs too much credit to think that in 15 minutes I am
supposed to understand why I have to create the db table: 'posts' by
hand (http://book.cakephp.org/view/1530/Creating-the-Blog-Database)
and then  little bit later have to create a model 'Post' with only a
property of 'name' that = 'Post' with no other methods. And even then,
the reason for that '$name' property isnt exactly clear as to why it's
needed: 'The $name variable is always a good idea to add, and is used
to overcome some class name oddness in PHP4.'

I can understand the logic that the model is an interface to that
table, but I dont remember seeing that outlined anywhere.

So back to my original questions and just to be clear
what you are saying is that the only way a table and it's rows are
created are by manually creating them in the db myself, right?




On Jan 28, 2:44 pm, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 28, 5:04 pm, maxarbos maxar...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I read through the very minimal bake command documentation at: 9.1 and
  9.2 in the docs, but it's pretty superficial.
  The generation of the schema is a pretty big deal i think and
  something that should be highlighted a little more, if this is what it
  can do.

  When I started with cake 1.3 a few months ago,

 bake has very little to do with your question

 In cake you edit your db tables however you want and create a model
 file to represent your php interface to that table. Creating model
 files is actually optional since cake will use an app model instance
 for any referenced model which doesn't have a specific file. Therefore
 if you add a table to your db foos and add this to your e.g. user
 model:

 var hasMany = array('Foo');

 you can immediately do $this-Foo-find() in/from your user model.

 The blog tutorial should have cemented this for you in the first 15
 minute of using cake - if that wasn't the case for you I'd suggest you
 edit the bit that didn't clarify that's how cake works.

 AD

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Cake 2 : Any sort of automatic schema creation from models?

2011-01-25 Thread maxarbos
Hello,

Will cake2 have any sort of automatic table schema creation and
management?
I have been using grails for a bit and it has an orm built in that
creates and manages table schemas.
So to create a table for people i create a class: People and add
properties for firstName, lastName, etc... and if there is no 'People'
table, one is created with the fields: 'first_name', 'last_name'.

if i remove any property, that column is dropped.

I would prefer to not have to manage the tables and FK relationships
independantly of the application. (grails gives you the ability to set
specific field types, sizes, etc..but defaults to certain types/sizes
for 'Integer', 'String', etc...)

I see a package RedBeanPHP, but cannot get it working (due to my
knowledge limit on it) with the other LIght framework I am testing
out.

Thanks.

Cake 2 : Any sort of automatic schema creation from models?

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Re: Cake 2 : Any sort of automatic schema creation from models?

2011-01-25 Thread maxarbos
So would the model be automatically be built with the correct
properties and types by telling it which table to read from?
If I just have to setup the tables, that would work too, but what I
dont want is to have to maintain a model as well as a table structure
independently.


On Jan 25, 7:02 pm, mark_story mark.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 No.  Cake has always taken the approach of basing the models off the
 schema, not the other way around.  This is not planned to change for
 2.0.

 -Mark

 On Jan 25, 2:56 pm, maxarbos maxar...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hello,

  Will cake2 have any sort of automatic table schema creation and
  management?
  I have been using grails for a bit and it has an orm built in that
  creates and manages table schemas.
  So to create a table for people i create a class: People and add
  properties for firstName, lastName, etc... and if there is no 'People'
  table, one is created with the fields: 'first_name', 'last_name'.

  if i remove any property, that column is dropped.

  I would prefer to not have to manage the tables and FK relationships
  independantly of the application. (grails gives you the ability to set
  specific field types, sizes, etc..but defaults to certain types/sizes
  for 'Integer', 'String', etc...)

  I see a package RedBeanPHP, but cannot get it working (due to my
  knowledge limit on it) with the other LIght framework I am testing
  out.

  Thanks.

  Cake 2 : Any sort of automatic schema creation from models?

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Can Cake do this?

2010-07-07 Thread maxarbos
I am just getting into learning about cake and wanted to know if I am
going to be able to do the things I am hoping it can do, easily.

The site I am going to use this for is a product rental agency. They
have a number of categories with unlimited levels of parent to child
relationships. Prices can be specific to three different categories
(by 3 hours, by day, and by week)

I would also like to be able to allow them to have a shopping carts of
sorts that is mainly a shopping list.

A site administrator would be able to add categories (with pictures of
the categories) products with pics, change prices, etc..

SEO friendly URLs is a must as well.

this all sounds pretty basic, so I am hoping this is all pretty
standard and possible.

thanks.
Bill

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