Re: I'm coming from Rails 3.2. There are some specific things I'd know how to do in CakePHP 2.0. Can someone help me?
Thank you Randy! Surely I'll take a look on these suggestions. On Jun 6, 3:46 pm, randy ses...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bruno, I can answer some of these with some of my experience. I don't have much experience in Rails but I try to keep up with what's happening in that camp. Packages: Personally, for plugins and libs, I use git submodules. There are pitfalls there, but it works and since I'm the only one that owns the code, I just work through them. Migrations: I believe Cake supports migrations but have not used them much. I believe it works similar to Rails. Automated Deploys: I've read that people use Cap for PHP deployments. Cap seems pretty flexible and can be used outside the Rails domain. There's also things like ant and Phing but haven't looked into this just yet (but seriously need to) Asset Compression: Yes. Via plugin written Mark Story (https://github.com/markstory/asset_compress) It works pretty well and supports CDNs. Also supports things like coffee script and lesscss. Workers, etc: Cake has a Task/Shell framework that allows you create, well, tasks and shell programs you can run from cron or wherever. Beyond that, you can add event handlers/listeners to respond to custom events in Cake's Event system (http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/core-libraries/events.html) which is new in 2.1. Then there's things like Gearman and Beanstalkd (neither of which I have exposure to but the concept sounds interesting) Skipping some points... Testing: PHPUnit is the framework used by CakePHP 2+http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/development/testing.html Like you said, there's many ways to skin a cat, but these are some off the top of my head. Cheers! randy On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Bruno Dias bruno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. My intention is not to make comparisons or discuss which framework is better. I know the power from both CakePHP and Rails. I'm sure that there's a way to do similar things in both of them. So, this is the situation: in Rails framework, I'm used to do somethings that I'd like to do on CakePHP (some of them I haven't found on the documentation). They are: - Package management In Rails, I have the Gemfile file, where I write the version of each gem used in the application. If I want to upgrade or downgrade, I change the version and run the bundle update command. How do you update plugins? Do you use tools like GIT to checkout each one to newer versions? - Migrations When I need to change the database, I create a empty migration file through the console command rails generate migration. Then, in the generated file, I add the changes, like rename_column :users, :address, :location. After that, I run rake db:migrate and the database is migrated. How to do that on CakePHP? - Automated Deployment Deployment in Rails can be made automated using the Capistrano ruby gem. Basically, I run cap production deploy in the command line. Then, based on the instructions on the deploy.rb file, it logs into the server(s), clone the newest version of the code from the git repository, and backups the current release, so I can rollback. It also can create symlinks for shared folders (like user uploads), recompile the assets, run pending migrations, install new dependencies, restart some server processes, restart the application itself, and can execute other command line tasks. Is there something similar on CakePHP? - Assets compression In Rails, when I'm in production mode, the CSS and JS assets are automatically compiled into single files, and regenerated after each deployment. That's a native feature in Rails 3.1+. Is that possible on CakePHP? - Workers and Background Jobs Rails can use a gem called delayed_job to enqueue tasks to be executed in background by workers, like sending an e-mail after user signup, for example. How do you do that? - Namespaces for controllers If I want to create an admin interface, or a web service (using the api namespace, for example), or a mobile namespace, I just create the respective folders on the controllers folder. Then, I put the controllers there and create the routes to access them. What's the best way to do that on Cake? - Access model methods from view It seems that CakePHP return an associative array when I grab data from the database, and not the true objects. So, I can not access the model methods. Let's suppose my UserModel class provides a method called age that calculates the user current age based on his birthday. In Rails, I could do this on the view: %= @user.age %. I need to create a view helper for doing that on Cake? Like ?php $helpers- calc_user_age($user); ? (or something like that) ? Another situation: Let's suppose I want to get the last comment from a user, and within the comment, insert a link to the related post using the post title. In Rails I would do something like
Re: I'm coming from Rails 3.2. There are some specific things I'd know how to do in CakePHP 2.0. Can someone help me?
Hi stork! Thanks for your feedback. I'll take a look! On Jun 6, 6:01 pm, stork lubomir.st...@gmail.com wrote: One more thing about migrations - yes, CakePHP does have builtin shell for database schema dump/restorehttp://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/console-and-shells/schema-management-a... but mentioned CakeDC migrations plugin is better. And - welcome in CakePHP community! :-) -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
I'm coming from Rails 3.2. There are some specific things I'd know how to do in CakePHP 2.0. Can someone help me?
Hi guys. My intention is not to make comparisons or discuss which framework is better. I know the power from both CakePHP and Rails. I'm sure that there's a way to do similar things in both of them. So, this is the situation: in Rails framework, I'm used to do somethings that I'd like to do on CakePHP (some of them I haven't found on the documentation). They are: - Package management In Rails, I have the Gemfile file, where I write the version of each gem used in the application. If I want to upgrade or downgrade, I change the version and run the bundle update command. How do you update plugins? Do you use tools like GIT to checkout each one to newer versions? - Migrations When I need to change the database, I create a empty migration file through the console command rails generate migration. Then, in the generated file, I add the changes, like rename_column :users, :address, :location. After that, I run rake db:migrate and the database is migrated. How to do that on CakePHP? - Automated Deployment Deployment in Rails can be made automated using the Capistrano ruby gem. Basically, I run cap production deploy in the command line. Then, based on the instructions on the deploy.rb file, it logs into the server(s), clone the newest version of the code from the git repository, and backups the current release, so I can rollback. It also can create symlinks for shared folders (like user uploads), recompile the assets, run pending migrations, install new dependencies, restart some server processes, restart the application itself, and can execute other command line tasks. Is there something similar on CakePHP? - Assets compression In Rails, when I'm in production mode, the CSS and JS assets are automatically compiled into single files, and regenerated after each deployment. That's a native feature in Rails 3.1+. Is that possible on CakePHP? - Workers and Background Jobs Rails can use a gem called delayed_job to enqueue tasks to be executed in background by workers, like sending an e-mail after user signup, for example. How do you do that? - Namespaces for controllers If I want to create an admin interface, or a web service (using the api namespace, for example), or a mobile namespace, I just create the respective folders on the controllers folder. Then, I put the controllers there and create the routes to access them. What's the best way to do that on Cake? - Access model methods from view It seems that CakePHP return an associative array when I grab data from the database, and not the true objects. So, I can not access the model methods. Let's suppose my UserModel class provides a method called age that calculates the user current age based on his birthday. In Rails, I could do this on the view: %= @user.age %. I need to create a view helper for doing that on Cake? Like ?php $helpers- calc_user_age($user); ? (or something like that) ? Another situation: Let's suppose I want to get the last comment from a user, and within the comment, insert a link to the related post using the post title. In Rails I would do something like @user.comments.last.post.title to get the post title. How could I do that in Cake, without using that recursive=3 feature that gets lots of unnecessary data? - Chaining model scopes Let's suppose I have a model called Post. In Rails, I can create scopes on models and mix them the way I want. If I want to the get the 5 last published posts from the category Programming ordered by the most accessed, for example, I would call them this way: Post.published.from_category(programming).most_accessed.limit(5). If I want only the draft posts ordered by recent, integrated with pagination, I would call Post.drafts.recent.page(2). What is the best way to create and chain scopes on CakePHP? Build dynamically an array of conditions and send it as the parameter for find? - Tests What are the testing tools adopted by the CakePHP community? I need to test the models and its methods, test the controllers and its responses and variables, and test the views content (also Javascript interaction), create fixtures, etc. I also would know if there is a way to create something like autotest, that run the tests after file saves. Well, basically these are the points. Sorry for the long post, and for my error-prone and redundant english (i'm not a native speaker). Hope we can have a good conversation. Thank you! -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: I'm coming from Rails 3.2. There are some specific things I'd know how to do in CakePHP 2.0. Can someone help me?
Hey Bruno, I can answer some of these with some of my experience. I don't have much experience in Rails but I try to keep up with what's happening in that camp. Packages: Personally, for plugins and libs, I use git submodules. There are pitfalls there, but it works and since I'm the only one that owns the code, I just work through them. Migrations: I believe Cake supports migrations but have not used them much. I believe it works similar to Rails. Automated Deploys: I've read that people use Cap for PHP deployments. Cap seems pretty flexible and can be used outside the Rails domain. There's also things like ant and Phing but haven't looked into this just yet (but seriously need to) Asset Compression: Yes. Via plugin written Mark Story ( https://github.com/markstory/asset_compress) It works pretty well and supports CDNs. Also supports things like coffee script and lesscss. Workers, etc: Cake has a Task/Shell framework that allows you create, well, tasks and shell programs you can run from cron or wherever. Beyond that, you can add event handlers/listeners to respond to custom events in Cake's Event system (http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/core-libraries/events.html) which is new in 2.1. Then there's things like Gearman and Beanstalkd (neither of which I have exposure to but the concept sounds interesting) Skipping some points... Testing: PHPUnit is the framework used by CakePHP 2+ http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/development/testing.html Like you said, there's many ways to skin a cat, but these are some off the top of my head. Cheers! randy On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Bruno Dias bruno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. My intention is not to make comparisons or discuss which framework is better. I know the power from both CakePHP and Rails. I'm sure that there's a way to do similar things in both of them. So, this is the situation: in Rails framework, I'm used to do somethings that I'd like to do on CakePHP (some of them I haven't found on the documentation). They are: - Package management In Rails, I have the Gemfile file, where I write the version of each gem used in the application. If I want to upgrade or downgrade, I change the version and run the bundle update command. How do you update plugins? Do you use tools like GIT to checkout each one to newer versions? - Migrations When I need to change the database, I create a empty migration file through the console command rails generate migration. Then, in the generated file, I add the changes, like rename_column :users, :address, :location. After that, I run rake db:migrate and the database is migrated. How to do that on CakePHP? - Automated Deployment Deployment in Rails can be made automated using the Capistrano ruby gem. Basically, I run cap production deploy in the command line. Then, based on the instructions on the deploy.rb file, it logs into the server(s), clone the newest version of the code from the git repository, and backups the current release, so I can rollback. It also can create symlinks for shared folders (like user uploads), recompile the assets, run pending migrations, install new dependencies, restart some server processes, restart the application itself, and can execute other command line tasks. Is there something similar on CakePHP? - Assets compression In Rails, when I'm in production mode, the CSS and JS assets are automatically compiled into single files, and regenerated after each deployment. That's a native feature in Rails 3.1+. Is that possible on CakePHP? - Workers and Background Jobs Rails can use a gem called delayed_job to enqueue tasks to be executed in background by workers, like sending an e-mail after user signup, for example. How do you do that? - Namespaces for controllers If I want to create an admin interface, or a web service (using the api namespace, for example), or a mobile namespace, I just create the respective folders on the controllers folder. Then, I put the controllers there and create the routes to access them. What's the best way to do that on Cake? - Access model methods from view It seems that CakePHP return an associative array when I grab data from the database, and not the true objects. So, I can not access the model methods. Let's suppose my UserModel class provides a method called age that calculates the user current age based on his birthday. In Rails, I could do this on the view: %= @user.age %. I need to create a view helper for doing that on Cake? Like ?php $helpers- calc_user_age($user); ? (or something like that) ? Another situation: Let's suppose I want to get the last comment from a user, and within the comment, insert a link to the related post using the post title. In Rails I would do something like @user.comments.last.post.title to get the post title. How could I do that in Cake, without using that recursive=3 feature that gets lots of unnecessary data? - Chaining model scopes Let's suppose I have a model
Re: I'm coming from Rails 3.2. There are some specific things I'd know how to do in CakePHP 2.0. Can someone help me?
- Package management - for libs/vendors/plugins - git submodules - Migrations - mainly for database schema/content changes, but also for filesystem changes dependent on application version (migration does have before() and after() callbacks) - https://github.com/CakeDC/migrations - Automated Deployment - whatever is required (Capistrano, Ant, make...), but I prefer pure git console shells/tasks executed from git hooks - Assets compression - https://github.com/markstory/asset_compress - Workers and Background Jobs - http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/console-and-shells.html - Namespaces for controllers - http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/development/routing.html#prefix-routing - Access model methods from view - combination of helpers, http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/models/retrieving-your-data.html#creating-custom-find-types and http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/models/virtual-fields.html I prefer to not call models from views/elements/layouts/helpers, but it is easy to obtain model instance from ClassRegistry anywhere in application code. - Chaining model scopes - either build $options (conditions, fields, order, recursive, contains...) dynamically, or custom find() type - Tests - http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/development/testing.html - mostly through web interface, sometimes also from git hooks and TestShell http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/development/testing.html#running-tests-from-command-line -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: I'm coming from Rails 3.2. There are some specific things I'd know how to do in CakePHP 2.0. Can someone help me?
One more thing about migrations - yes, CakePHP does have builtin shell for database schema dump/restore http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/console-and-shells/schema-management-and-migrations.html but mentioned CakeDC migrations plugin is better. And - welcome in CakePHP community! :-) -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Can someone help?
Maybe I am just missing something or being dumb, but could someone
take a look at this.
Here is a snippet of my code:
class NewsitemsController extends AppController {
var $name = 'Newsitems';
var $uses = array('Newsitem','User');
var $messages = array();
function index(){
addMessage(test);
//print_r($this-messages); //This prints 0-'test' as
expected
$this-set('msgs', $this-requestAction('/Newsitems/
msgrender',array('return')));
}
function addMessage($msg) {
$this-messages = array_merge($this-messages, array($msg));
}
function msgrender() {
$this-set('messages',$this-messages);
//print_r($this-messages); //This is empty!!!?
unset($this-messages);
$this-render();
}
}
?
-
index.thml
?
echo $msgs
?
msgrender.thtml
?
foreach($messages as $message) {
echo -.$message.-;
}
?
---
when I run this index is blank.
What am I doing wrong, it looks like it should work to me...
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Re: Can someone help?
First of all, you need to kick up your error level so you can see
something. Usually this can be accomplished by setting DEBUG to 1 or
2 in /app/config/core.php.
Second, addMessage(test); should be $this-addMessage(test);
Third, $this-requestAction('/Newsitems/msgrender',array('return'))
should be $this-requestAction('/newsitems/msgrender',array('return'))
(note the case).
Fourth: in the future, if you're trying to get help on this list, it
helps to post with a title slightly less generic than Can someone
help?.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I am just missing something or being dumb, but could someone
take a look at this.
Here is a snippet of my code:
class NewsitemsController extends AppController {
var $name = 'Newsitems';
var $uses = array('Newsitem','User');
var $messages = array();
function index(){
addMessage(test);
//print_r($this-messages); //This prints 0-'test' as
expected
$this-set('msgs', $this-requestAction('/Newsitems/
msgrender',array('return')));
}
function addMessage($msg) {
$this-messages = array_merge($this-messages, array($msg));
}
function msgrender() {
$this-set('messages',$this-messages);
//print_r($this-messages); //This is empty!!!?
unset($this-messages);
$this-render();
}
}
?
-
index.thml
?
echo $msgs
?
msgrender.thtml
?
foreach($messages as $message) {
echo -.$message.-;
}
?
---
when I run this index is blank.
What am I doing wrong, it looks like it should work to me...
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Re: Can someone help?
I do have debug on, I didn't paste all my code I rewrote the most
important parts for this post.
So assuming that this code doesn't give me any errors because of my
typos, it still doesn't accomplish what I want it to.
Sorry for the vague title, I couldn't think of anything more
informative.
On Feb 7, 3:37 pm, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First of all, you need to kick up your error level so you can see
something. Usually this can be accomplished by setting DEBUG to 1 or
2 in /app/config/core.php.
Second, addMessage(test); should be $this-addMessage(test);
Third, $this-requestAction('/Newsitems/msgrender',array('return'))
should be $this-requestAction('/newsitems/msgrender',array('return'))
(note the case).
Fourth: in the future, if you're trying to get help on this list, it
helps to post with a title slightly less generic than Can someone
help?.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I am just missing something or being dumb, but could someone
take a look at this.
Here is a snippet of my code:
class NewsitemsController extends AppController {
var $name = 'Newsitems';
var $uses = array('Newsitem','User');
var $messages = array();
function index(){
addMessage(test);
//print_r($this-messages); //This prints 0-'test' as
expected
$this-set('msgs', $this-requestAction('/Newsitems/
msgrender',array('return')));
}
function addMessage($msg) {
$this-messages = array_merge($this-messages, array($msg));
}
function msgrender() {
$this-set('messages',$this-messages);
//print_r($this-messages); //This is empty!!!?
unset($this-messages);
$this-render();
}
}
?
-
index.thml
?
echo $msgs
?
msgrender.thtml
?
foreach($messages as $message) {
echo -.$message.-;
}
?
---
when I run this index is blank.
What am I doing wrong, it looks like it should work to me...- Hide quoted
text -
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