Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
Here is an example: http://github.com/dakota/CMScout-Forums/blob/master/forums_events.php As for the eventful plugin article, you should read it a bit more carefully ;) At the bottom is a link to the plugin on github (http:// github.com/m3nt0r/eventful-cakephp) It does work quite well, but was overkill for my purposes. On Dec 19, 2:02 pm, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: 10x , looks great. Still your plugins folder is empty. Would be great to see how a (very simple) event plugin looks like. Anyway, I downloaded the source code and I'll mess around with it. As expected, as soon as you need more than messing arround with some db tables, you also need some kind of event driven approach, so I'm not the only one having this problem. Do you also plan to create some viewHooks so that the plugins will not only have own views and inject custom logic into the controllers, but also inject custom elements/views in the existing ones ? (This I've not seen implemented anywhere, although it looks like many CMS need this also). Anyway, at first glance it looks like a fine approach (especially that you're not only limited to standard controller callbacks). I also readhttp://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/ . Good article. But it looked more like a proof of concept to me, rather than a fully featured production ready implementation (m3nt0r is still working on this, as far as I understand). This is why I was searching for something more real life ready implementation, already tested by others. 10x a lot for sharing this. I also seen that you're using debug kit. Everytime I look around here in the community I learn something new. I never knew it existed, looks great (... downloading it right now). On Dec 19, 8:47 am, Walther waltherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have done something similar for a CMS that I am busy writing. First look here:http://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/ That was my inspiration. Then look here:http://github.com/dakota/CMScout/tree/master/controllers/ That is my event component. Basically, each plugin has a single plugin_name_events.php file which has all the events in. On Dec 18, 11:41 pm, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: In the mean time i found this : http://teknoid.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/observer-pattern-the-cakephp-way Should be easy following the same idea to make the interesting apps controllers observable, the interested plugin controllers observers, and based on some observers's side config to initialise the correct $observers array in every observed controller. Anyway, I'm just messing arround, to find a decent solution. SpliceIt looks cool. To bad is unmantained. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
10x , looks great. Still your plugins folder is empty. Would be great to see how a (very simple) event plugin looks like. Anyway, I downloaded the source code and I'll mess around with it. As expected, as soon as you need more than messing arround with some db tables, you also need some kind of event driven approach, so I'm not the only one having this problem. Do you also plan to create some viewHooks so that the plugins will not only have own views and inject custom logic into the controllers, but also inject custom elements/views in the existing ones ? (This I've not seen implemented anywhere, although it looks like many CMS need this also). Anyway, at first glance it looks like a fine approach (especially that you're not only limited to standard controller callbacks). I also read http://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/ . Good article. But it looked more like a proof of concept to me, rather than a fully featured production ready implementation (m3nt0r is still working on this, as far as I understand). This is why I was searching for something more real life ready implementation, already tested by others. 10x a lot for sharing this. I also seen that you're using debug kit. Everytime I look around here in the community I learn something new. I never knew it existed, looks great (... downloading it right now). On Dec 19, 8:47 am, Walther waltherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have done something similar for a CMS that I am busy writing. First look here:http://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/ That was my inspiration. Then look here:http://github.com/dakota/CMScout/tree/master/controllers/ That is my event component. Basically, each plugin has a single plugin_name_events.php file which has all the events in. On Dec 18, 11:41 pm, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: In the mean time i found this : http://teknoid.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/observer-pattern-the-cakephp-way Should be easy following the same idea to make the interesting apps controllers observable, the interested plugin controllers observers, and based on some observers's side config to initialise the correct $observers array in every observed controller. Anyway, I'm just messing arround, to find a decent solution. SpliceIt looks cool. To bad is unmantained. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
10x Jamie. Not sure which implementation to steal the ideas from I'll choose. I'm not pressed by time, so I'll try your implementation as well (most of the ideas I have in mind do not really need custom placed hooks, before filter, after filter are just enough in 99 percent of the cases where you need controllerHooks. Though in 90 percent of the cases cakephp apps do not even need hooks, so you never know). I'm also testing the debug kit. Are there any other cool tools/ components like these out there that you guys use and I'm not aware of ? Any other opensource Cms's ? Cause What is in cakeforge is rather old and outdated, and mambo5 is starting to look more and more like vaporware. On Dec 19, 9:49 am, Jamie jamie@gmail.com wrote: To add to the options already presented: I wrote a Plugin Callback component that executes callbacks in special plugin callback classes: http://jamienay.com/2009/11/an-easy-plugin-callback-component-for-cak... This works well for the large-scale CMS I built at work. Walther's solution also looks pretty cool, especially since his is geared towards custom hooks rather than just hooking on to existing controller callbacks. - Jamie On Dec 18, 4:53 am, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: I would like to know if there is any official (or at least supported / under development) mechanism that would allow me to create hooks so that i can hook certain plugin functions into a controller. What would be sweet : Controller hooks For example let-s say we have a two statistics plugins. One checks the ip, one checks the searchphrase. They both basically work with the same data, and could be hooked into the afterFilter or smth. So the idea would be to be able to register a hook, and then (using naming conventions ??), certain (plugin) functions to be called. View hooks Would be great such thing to also exist for the views, let-s say we register a viewHook called product_addons, so if we develop a rate the product plugin, the view would take a ctp from the plugin and render the stars and the rating form in that hook. And of course when disabling the plugin, searching for the things to be rendered there will return empty. Whatever. I've seen something like (controllerHooks) this at Tarique Sani's Cheesecake, in his hitStats plugin. It has some AppInit component that will do the hooks. I'm not sure how it works, I've not investgated further as the software seems to be quite old (1.1 framework version I think). There was another implementation like this called SpliceIt, but is not mantained, and seems quite old also. Is there any reccomended way of actually plugging/unplugging custom logic ? Because the plugins seem more like separate apps (that can use the main's app logic, and not the other way arround, which is ok after all) to me. Maybe I missed something, but I can't find a way to elegantly plug in/out custom logic into the controllers. For plugging in/out custom elements/views i didn't find anything :(. Probably doing this in models is wrong by design. Maybe I have some brain damage from other apps I modified. But there are plenty of components and helpers that make development a breeze, until you need to actually do a plugin that can also easly plug out. This is one of the reasons I think apps like wordpress, prestashop and similar have a bigger community than any cakephp based app outhere (for example CheeseCake is a good photoblog, but without other (spam filtering for example) plugins is not to be considered by most photographers out there, and noone is willing to create one if there is no standard way to develop plugins in cakphp, and everytime you have to rediscover how the developer implemented the hooks). I think this would make easier for us to port plugins from one app to another, thus making creation of feature rich software easier. Is very hard to do anything but custom software on cakephp, as for example creating a good shopping cart will essentially rule out 3'rd parties from developing payment or shipping plugins. Most of those payment plugins for example do the same thing, but using different apis. From the cart's point of view they all act the same, send a form, receive an answer, update the cart's status. But there is no elegant way to plug in/out these modules. And the funny thing is most of them do not even need a table, just a form and a way to validate the answer and change cart's status. Some time ago I developed some publishing software with cake (1.1). It was great, until it came to statistics. I had to add lots of requestActions in the before and afterFilters. Right now is some kind of mess (as removong a plugin would also mean to remove the added logic into the main apps controllers and views). The next thing I develop I would like to not become so messy. (Btw, sluggable behaviour, bindable behaviour, meio upload and
Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
I would like to know if there is any official (or at least supported / under development) mechanism that would allow me to create hooks so that i can hook certain plugin functions into a controller. What would be sweet : Controller hooks For example let-s say we have a two statistics plugins. One checks the ip, one checks the searchphrase. They both basically work with the same data, and could be hooked into the afterFilter or smth. So the idea would be to be able to register a hook, and then (using naming conventions ??), certain (plugin) functions to be called. View hooks Would be great such thing to also exist for the views, let-s say we register a viewHook called product_addons, so if we develop a rate the product plugin, the view would take a ctp from the plugin and render the stars and the rating form in that hook. And of course when disabling the plugin, searching for the things to be rendered there will return empty. Whatever. I've seen something like (controllerHooks) this at Tarique Sani's Cheesecake, in his hitStats plugin. It has some AppInit component that will do the hooks. I'm not sure how it works, I've not investgated further as the software seems to be quite old (1.1 framework version I think). There was another implementation like this called SpliceIt, but is not mantained, and seems quite old also. Is there any reccomended way of actually plugging/unplugging custom logic ? Because the plugins seem more like separate apps (that can use the main's app logic, and not the other way arround, which is ok after all) to me. Maybe I missed something, but I can't find a way to elegantly plug in/out custom logic into the controllers. For plugging in/out custom elements/views i didn't find anything :(. Probably doing this in models is wrong by design. Maybe I have some brain damage from other apps I modified. But there are plenty of components and helpers that make development a breeze, until you need to actually do a plugin that can also easly plug out. This is one of the reasons I think apps like wordpress, prestashop and similar have a bigger community than any cakephp based app outhere (for example CheeseCake is a good photoblog, but without other (spam filtering for example) plugins is not to be considered by most photographers out there, and noone is willing to create one if there is no standard way to develop plugins in cakphp, and everytime you have to rediscover how the developer implemented the hooks). I think this would make easier for us to port plugins from one app to another, thus making creation of feature rich software easier. Is very hard to do anything but custom software on cakephp, as for example creating a good shopping cart will essentially rule out 3'rd parties from developing payment or shipping plugins. Most of those payment plugins for example do the same thing, but using different apis. From the cart's point of view they all act the same, send a form, receive an answer, update the cart's status. But there is no elegant way to plug in/out these modules. And the funny thing is most of them do not even need a table, just a form and a way to validate the answer and change cart's status. Some time ago I developed some publishing software with cake (1.1). It was great, until it came to statistics. I had to add lots of requestActions in the before and afterFilters. Right now is some kind of mess (as removong a plugin would also mean to remove the added logic into the main apps controllers and views). The next thing I develop I would like to not become so messy. (Btw, sluggable behaviour, bindable behaviour, meio upload and magick resize helper spared me a lot of work, 10x god the community is strugling to add cool functionality to the framework). I searched about this topics, but I didn't find much. I checked various apps for ideas, but most of them are outdated. Is there anything like this in plan ? Is there any component that already do that ? Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
AFAIK, plugin could be used -1-to be a ~~~separate application : example the blog plugin, the auth plugin, the forum plugin, etc... -2-to be called from anywhere by using a requestAction: example captcha plugin is used to be called via requestAction to import the prove that you are human image choose the option you need (you may use number 2) and have a nice baking day On Dec 18, 12:53 pm, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: I would like to know if there is any official (or at least supported / under development) mechanism that would allow me to create hooks so that i can hook certain plugin functions into a controller. What would be sweet : Controller hooks For example let-s say we have a two statistics plugins. One checks the ip, one checks the searchphrase. They both basically work with the same data, and could be hooked into the afterFilter or smth. So the idea would be to be able to register a hook, and then (using naming conventions ??), certain (plugin) functions to be called. View hooks Would be great such thing to also exist for the views, let-s say we register a viewHook called product_addons, so if we develop a rate the product plugin, the view would take a ctp from the plugin and render the stars and the rating form in that hook. And of course when disabling the plugin, searching for the things to be rendered there will return empty. Whatever. I've seen something like (controllerHooks) this at Tarique Sani's Cheesecake, in his hitStats plugin. It has some AppInit component that will do the hooks. I'm not sure how it works, I've not investgated further as the software seems to be quite old (1.1 framework version I think). There was another implementation like this called SpliceIt, but is not mantained, and seems quite old also. Is there any reccomended way of actually plugging/unplugging custom logic ? Because the plugins seem more like separate apps (that can use the main's app logic, and not the other way arround, which is ok after all) to me. Maybe I missed something, but I can't find a way to elegantly plug in/out custom logic into the controllers. For plugging in/out custom elements/views i didn't find anything :(. Probably doing this in models is wrong by design. Maybe I have some brain damage from other apps I modified. But there are plenty of components and helpers that make development a breeze, until you need to actually do a plugin that can also easly plug out. This is one of the reasons I think apps like wordpress, prestashop and similar have a bigger community than any cakephp based app outhere (for example CheeseCake is a good photoblog, but without other (spam filtering for example) plugins is not to be considered by most photographers out there, and noone is willing to create one if there is no standard way to develop plugins in cakphp, and everytime you have to rediscover how the developer implemented the hooks). I think this would make easier for us to port plugins from one app to another, thus making creation of feature rich software easier. Is very hard to do anything but custom software on cakephp, as for example creating a good shopping cart will essentially rule out 3'rd parties from developing payment or shipping plugins. Most of those payment plugins for example do the same thing, but using different apis. From the cart's point of view they all act the same, send a form, receive an answer, update the cart's status. But there is no elegant way to plug in/out these modules. And the funny thing is most of them do not even need a table, just a form and a way to validate the answer and change cart's status. Some time ago I developed some publishing software with cake (1.1). It was great, until it came to statistics. I had to add lots of requestActions in the before and afterFilters. Right now is some kind of mess (as removong a plugin would also mean to remove the added logic into the main apps controllers and views). The next thing I develop I would like to not become so messy. (Btw, sluggable behaviour, bindable behaviour, meio upload and magick resize helper spared me a lot of work, 10x god the community is strugling to add cool functionality to the framework). I searched about this topics, but I didn't find much. I checked various apps for ideas, but most of them are outdated. Is there anything like this in plan ? Is there any component that already do that ? Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
m sorry, captcha plugin is also considered as a very small separate application plugin, I gave a wrong example. but you still have the option number 2 but you need to specify the plugin key/prefix in the url array/string On Dec 18, 1:54 pm, robustsolution i...@robustsolution.net wrote: AFAIK, plugin could be used -1-to be a ~~~separate application : example the blog plugin, the auth plugin, the forum plugin, etc... -2-to be called from anywhere by using a requestAction: example captcha plugin is used to be called via requestAction to import the prove that you are human image choose the option you need (you may use number 2) and have a nice baking day On Dec 18, 12:53 pm, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: I would like to know if there is any official (or at least supported / under development) mechanism that would allow me to create hooks so that i can hook certain plugin functions into a controller. What would be sweet : Controller hooks For example let-s say we have a two statistics plugins. One checks the ip, one checks the searchphrase. They both basically work with the same data, and could be hooked into the afterFilter or smth. So the idea would be to be able to register a hook, and then (using naming conventions ??), certain (plugin) functions to be called. View hooks Would be great such thing to also exist for the views, let-s say we register a viewHook called product_addons, so if we develop a rate the product plugin, the view would take a ctp from the plugin and render the stars and the rating form in that hook. And of course when disabling the plugin, searching for the things to be rendered there will return empty. Whatever. I've seen something like (controllerHooks) this at Tarique Sani's Cheesecake, in his hitStats plugin. It has some AppInit component that will do the hooks. I'm not sure how it works, I've not investgated further as the software seems to be quite old (1.1 framework version I think). There was another implementation like this called SpliceIt, but is not mantained, and seems quite old also. Is there any reccomended way of actually plugging/unplugging custom logic ? Because the plugins seem more like separate apps (that can use the main's app logic, and not the other way arround, which is ok after all) to me. Maybe I missed something, but I can't find a way to elegantly plug in/out custom logic into the controllers. For plugging in/out custom elements/views i didn't find anything :(. Probably doing this in models is wrong by design. Maybe I have some brain damage from other apps I modified. But there are plenty of components and helpers that make development a breeze, until you need to actually do a plugin that can also easly plug out. This is one of the reasons I think apps like wordpress, prestashop and similar have a bigger community than any cakephp based app outhere (for example CheeseCake is a good photoblog, but without other (spam filtering for example) plugins is not to be considered by most photographers out there, and noone is willing to create one if there is no standard way to develop plugins in cakphp, and everytime you have to rediscover how the developer implemented the hooks). I think this would make easier for us to port plugins from one app to another, thus making creation of feature rich software easier. Is very hard to do anything but custom software on cakephp, as for example creating a good shopping cart will essentially rule out 3'rd parties from developing payment or shipping plugins. Most of those payment plugins for example do the same thing, but using different apis. From the cart's point of view they all act the same, send a form, receive an answer, update the cart's status. But there is no elegant way to plug in/out these modules. And the funny thing is most of them do not even need a table, just a form and a way to validate the answer and change cart's status. Some time ago I developed some publishing software with cake (1.1). It was great, until it came to statistics. I had to add lots of requestActions in the before and afterFilters. Right now is some kind of mess (as removong a plugin would also mean to remove the added logic into the main apps controllers and views). The next thing I develop I would like to not become so messy. (Btw, sluggable behaviour, bindable behaviour, meio upload and magick resize helper spared me a lot of work, 10x god the community is strugling to add cool functionality to the framework). I searched about this topics, but I didn't find much. I checked various apps for ideas, but most of them are outdated. Is there anything like this in plan ? Is there any component that already do that ? Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
Hi,
I know how to use them. The idea was to have something like
MyController {
beforeFilter () {
defineHook('myHook');
}
}
And in the plugin to have something like {
PluginController {
function addCustomLogicToHook($controller,$hook,$params){
}
}
so the requestAction(/bla/bla/addCustomLogicToHook) is filled
automagically in the hook
Check Tariq Sani's cheesecake, AppInit component and hitStats plugin,
you'll have a better idea of what I mean. Unfortunately is build on an
older version of cake, and second, I do not want to steal the code. I
am just wondering if anyone has a better approach.
http://debuggable.com/posts/welcome-to-the-dark-side-of-plugins-in-cakephp:480f4dd5-0eb8-4cab-aeb3-4796cbdd56cb
at : Plugin Callbacks / Hooks
The Felix's approach is to :
callHooks('myHook', null, $this); in the appropriate place, and then
to create a new file that contain the hookable functions, called
hooks.php, so that you no longer need to requestAction.
This resembles Tarique's approach but somewhat tariq's approach is
more intuitive.
this is somewhat required so that more complex event driven
programming can be done without using tens or hundreds of
requestAction. while requestAction is ok for a self-centric app, a
plugin oriented app that lacks hooks (at least in views and
controllers) is not a choice, especially if you expect 3'd parties to
cooperate. Is not that I can't manage without them, is that it would
be sweet to have it as a core feature (like we have Auth for example).
We can choose to, or not to use it, but would be great to have, so
that more projects can share code and more complex CMS and such can
rely on a standard way to hook things in.
Unfortunately, both solutions I found are outdated, and both only have
controllerHooks.
There is another option to use something like TiramisPHP promises
(unfortunately nuvole.org is empty), that would be an implementation
of the Implicit Invocation Pattern structured around event handling
for loose coupling and high cohesion in your CakePHP logic;. Not sure
this actually works.
In the meantime I found this :
http://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/
Seems interesting. Anyone tried It ?
I am aware that CakePHP is not event driven, but I'm trying to find a
way to pass over this and have at least some way to hook plugins based
on events in a proper nonhackerish way that in 2 month nobody not
even the original developer won't know how it actually works.
Or maybe I'm missing something, and there is an obious easier way to
do this which I do not yet see. Basically right I want to tell the
beforeFilter of a Posts controller to do a requestAction of a
plugin ... from the plugin. because if I have 20 plugins (actually
will be only 5 payment methods) will be a unellegant to disable all
the requestActions when I want to disable certain plugins. Last time
as I said I used only cake's core and requestActions, but it feels
somewhat not right. And I'm sure somebody out there had the same
problems, would be nice to see their thoughts/approaches to this and
even nicer to have cake have something like this included in the core
(like the AUTH component is).
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their CakePHP related questions.
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Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
I don't see why you just don't use the callbacks?
On Dec 18, 8:04 am, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote:
Hi,
I know how to use them. The idea was to have something like
MyController {
beforeFilter () {
defineHook('myHook');
}
}
And in the plugin to have something like {
PluginController {
function addCustomLogicToHook($controller,$hook,$params){
}
}
so the requestAction(/bla/bla/addCustomLogicToHook) is filled
automagically in the hook
Check Tariq Sani's cheesecake, AppInit component and hitStats plugin,
you'll have a better idea of what I mean. Unfortunately is build on an
older version of cake, and second, I do not want to steal the code. I
am just wondering if anyone has a better approach.
http://debuggable.com/posts/welcome-to-the-dark-side-of-plugins-in-ca...
at : Plugin Callbacks / Hooks
The Felix's approach is to :
callHooks('myHook', null, $this); in the appropriate place, and then
to create a new file that contain the hookable functions, called
hooks.php, so that you no longer need to requestAction.
This resembles Tarique's approach but somewhat tariq's approach is
more intuitive.
this is somewhat required so that more complex event driven
programming can be done without using tens or hundreds of
requestAction. while requestAction is ok for a self-centric app, a
plugin oriented app that lacks hooks (at least in views and
controllers) is not a choice, especially if you expect 3'd parties to
cooperate. Is not that I can't manage without them, is that it would
be sweet to have it as a core feature (like we have Auth for example).
We can choose to, or not to use it, but would be great to have, so
that more projects can share code and more complex CMS and such can
rely on a standard way to hook things in.
Unfortunately, both solutions I found are outdated, and both only have
controllerHooks.
There is another option to use something like TiramisPHP promises
(unfortunately nuvole.org is empty), that would be an implementation
of the Implicit Invocation Pattern structured around event handling
for loose coupling and high cohesion in your CakePHP logic;. Not sure
this actually works.
In the meantime I found this
:http://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/
Seems interesting. Anyone tried It ?
I am aware that CakePHP is not event driven, but I'm trying to find a
way to pass over this and have at least some way to hook plugins based
on events in a proper nonhackerish way that in 2 month nobody not
even the original developer won't know how it actually works.
Or maybe I'm missing something, and there is an obious easier way to
do this which I do not yet see. Basically right I want to tell the
beforeFilter of a Posts controller to do a requestAction of a
plugin ... from the plugin. because if I have 20 plugins (actually
will be only 5 payment methods) will be a unellegant to disable all
the requestActions when I want to disable certain plugins. Last time
as I said I used only cake's core and requestActions, but it feels
somewhat not right. And I'm sure somebody out there had the same
problems, would be nice to see their thoughts/approaches to this and
even nicer to have cake have something like this included in the core
(like the AUTH component is).
Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with
their CakePHP related questions.
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Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
I already used them. Right now I am starting a new project, which I would like to opensource, so other developers can write plugins without messing with the core app. So instead of to install this plugin add x lines in the user controller file in before filter function and y lines in the posts controller file, the plugin to have some (predefined) hooks. This usually means a event driven approach. And most of the more featured cake apps out there have aldeady somewhat implemented this. I'm just looking around for the best approach to this kind of functionality. Of course this can be done instantiating a list of the plugins and then execute in the BeforeFilter() the the functions that start with BeforeFilter in a certain hooks.php file in every plugin directory. Quick and dirty, and it works. But I am looking for a more elegant solution. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
In the mean time i found this : http://teknoid.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/observer-pattern-the-cakephp-way Should be easy following the same idea to make the interesting apps controllers observable, the interested plugin controllers observers, and based on some observers's side config to initialise the correct $observers array in every observed controller. Anyway, I'm just messing arround, to find a decent solution. SpliceIt looks cool. To bad is unmantained. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
I have done something similar for a CMS that I am busy writing. First look here: http://cakealot.com/2009/04/eventful-a-cakephp-event-system/ That was my inspiration. Then look here: http://github.com/dakota/CMScout/tree/master/controllers/ That is my event component. Basically, each plugin has a single plugin_name_events.php file which has all the events in. On Dec 18, 11:41 pm, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: In the mean time i found this : http://teknoid.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/observer-pattern-the-cakephp-way Should be easy following the same idea to make the interesting apps controllers observable, the interested plugin controllers observers, and based on some observers's side config to initialise the correct $observers array in every observed controller. Anyway, I'm just messing arround, to find a decent solution. SpliceIt looks cool. To bad is unmantained. Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Plugin callbacks and controller hooks
To add to the options already presented: I wrote a Plugin Callback component that executes callbacks in special plugin callback classes: http://jamienay.com/2009/11/an-easy-plugin-callback-component-for-cakephp-1-2/ This works well for the large-scale CMS I built at work. Walther's solution also looks pretty cool, especially since his is geared towards custom hooks rather than just hooking on to existing controller callbacks. - Jamie On Dec 18, 4:53 am, Aargh dra...@secured.ro wrote: I would like to know if there is any official (or at least supported / under development) mechanism that would allow me to create hooks so that i can hook certain plugin functions into a controller. What would be sweet : Controller hooks For example let-s say we have a two statistics plugins. One checks the ip, one checks the searchphrase. They both basically work with the same data, and could be hooked into the afterFilter or smth. So the idea would be to be able to register a hook, and then (using naming conventions ??), certain (plugin) functions to be called. View hooks Would be great such thing to also exist for the views, let-s say we register a viewHook called product_addons, so if we develop a rate the product plugin, the view would take a ctp from the plugin and render the stars and the rating form in that hook. And of course when disabling the plugin, searching for the things to be rendered there will return empty. Whatever. I've seen something like (controllerHooks) this at Tarique Sani's Cheesecake, in his hitStats plugin. It has some AppInit component that will do the hooks. I'm not sure how it works, I've not investgated further as the software seems to be quite old (1.1 framework version I think). There was another implementation like this called SpliceIt, but is not mantained, and seems quite old also. Is there any reccomended way of actually plugging/unplugging custom logic ? Because the plugins seem more like separate apps (that can use the main's app logic, and not the other way arround, which is ok after all) to me. Maybe I missed something, but I can't find a way to elegantly plug in/out custom logic into the controllers. For plugging in/out custom elements/views i didn't find anything :(. Probably doing this in models is wrong by design. Maybe I have some brain damage from other apps I modified. But there are plenty of components and helpers that make development a breeze, until you need to actually do a plugin that can also easly plug out. This is one of the reasons I think apps like wordpress, prestashop and similar have a bigger community than any cakephp based app outhere (for example CheeseCake is a good photoblog, but without other (spam filtering for example) plugins is not to be considered by most photographers out there, and noone is willing to create one if there is no standard way to develop plugins in cakphp, and everytime you have to rediscover how the developer implemented the hooks). I think this would make easier for us to port plugins from one app to another, thus making creation of feature rich software easier. Is very hard to do anything but custom software on cakephp, as for example creating a good shopping cart will essentially rule out 3'rd parties from developing payment or shipping plugins. Most of those payment plugins for example do the same thing, but using different apis. From the cart's point of view they all act the same, send a form, receive an answer, update the cart's status. But there is no elegant way to plug in/out these modules. And the funny thing is most of them do not even need a table, just a form and a way to validate the answer and change cart's status. Some time ago I developed some publishing software with cake (1.1). It was great, until it came to statistics. I had to add lots of requestActions in the before and afterFilters. Right now is some kind of mess (as removong a plugin would also mean to remove the added logic into the main apps controllers and views). The next thing I develop I would like to not become so messy. (Btw, sluggable behaviour, bindable behaviour, meio upload and magick resize helper spared me a lot of work, 10x god the community is strugling to add cool functionality to the framework). I searched about this topics, but I didn't find much. I checked various apps for ideas, but most of them are outdated. Is there anything like this in plan ? Is there any component that already do that ? Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
