Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-03 Thread Marcelius

http://www.ibuildings.com/blog/archives/1543-My-framework-is-better-than-all-other-frameworks.html

On 2 feb, 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-03 Thread Dérico Filho

There is this "Johnsa" who said that loved CakePHP but voted one
star :-s

On Feb 1, 10:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Samuel DeVore

To me cake will always be one higher, to me it is an ELEVEN ;)


On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:12 PM, mark_story  wrote:
>
> Wow I'm a total tard.  Way to press cancel, instead of send on that
> last message.  Let this be a lesson to all on how not to use gmail..
>
> Anyways, might as well finish that thought.  What I was trying to say,
> was that is that people love comparisons and top ten lists.  If you
> can itemize and order it, people like that.  They love the feeling
> that their number one.  But in any case, there are piles of lists out
> there favoring this and that framework/library/shape of banana.  But
> at the end of the day, all the frameworks are excellent and offer many
> of the same things, but its the details that matter to me. And that is
> something that is missed in a Top 10 list.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
>> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>>
>> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>>
>> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
>> those framework... :)
>> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
>> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>>
>> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --http://www.wmonou.com
> >
>

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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread mark_story

Wow I'm a total tard.  Way to press cancel, instead of send on that
last message.  Let this be a lesson to all on how not to use gmail..

Anyways, might as well finish that thought.  What I was trying to say,
was that is that people love comparisons and top ten lists.  If you
can itemize and order it, people like that.  They love the feeling
that their number one.  But in any case, there are piles of lists out
there favoring this and that framework/library/shape of banana.  But
at the end of the day, all the frameworks are excellent and offer many
of the same things, but its the details that matter to me. And that is
something that is missed in a Top 10 list.

-Mark

On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
> --http://www.wmonou.com
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread mark_story

Oh noes!

honestly, I only care about making the best framework we can.  Every
frameowkr

On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread yusuf widi
Ok guyz... thanks for response. I think that website is only accessories
only for us. :)

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:18 AM, ache...@gmail.com  wrote:

>
> And now the site has been completely F'ed. It looks like they aren't
> sanitizing their data (shame on them) and now people have figured out
> that you can post whatever you want in there as a review. "I liked
> cake for 500 stars." Look at the average, 5.3 means people are gaming
> it. So, don't worry about it, it's just a website with a huge bug that
> allows anyone do manipulate the crap out of the numbers. So go out and
> use firebug or your favorite tool to post whatever you want to their
> site, with under 30 posts to their site you could tank every framework
> but one and set the one you like to be 500 stars avg. rating.
>
> I'm going to make a brash assumption and say that this site is written
> in pure php rather than a framework (or if it is a framework that
> doesn't sanitize then the framework sucks and isn't worth anything).
> So the only thing we can take away from this is this:
>
> * Use a framework, it's better than nothing
> * This is a good place to find a list of other frameworks to try
> * The numbers don't mean anything so any bad reviews/good reviews
> could be bogus so just try them all
>
> Just my 0.02$
>
> Sincerely,
> ~Andrew Allen
>
> On Feb 2, 10:39 am, Martin Westin  wrote:
> > @sunertl
> > I was refering more to the website you linked to than to your post.
> >
> > I really liked this guy:
> > "It is poorly written. Just look at those lengthy functions."
> > Say what?
> >
> > And Cake is off the list... all the top ones new "un-heard-of"
> > frameworks :)
> > But look at the id's.
> >
> > Zend is id 1 (quite natural to start with that one)
> > Cake is 2...http://www.phpframeworks.com/php-frameworks/index.php?id=2
> >
> > Make of that what you will.
> >
> > On Feb 2, 3:46 pm, sunertl  wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, if is seemed I cried jihad, i made something wrong! Maybe because
> > > english is not my primary language...
> > > To be honest I do not give a  about the rank of a framework or
> > > another. I use rankings like the mentioned one to look what is new in
> > > the field of frameworks. This way I discovered Yii and I like it. For
> > > small projects it seems a pretty good choice but for larger ones
> > > nothing beats Cake imho.
> >
> > > I really hate those "my-os-is-better, my-framework-is-cooler, my-
> > > browser-is-safer"-discussions. everyone should test a few of the
> > > frameworks and use the one that fits his way of developing best.
> > > Rankings can only give you an overview.
> >
> > > On 2 Feb., 14:04, Martin Westin  wrote:
> >
> > > > Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
> > > > framework :)
> >
> > > > If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
> > > > very best short films and videos.
> http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0
> >
> > > > You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the same as
> > > > good.
> >
> > > > What I conclude is that Akelos have some very dedicated fans. That is
> > > > all.
> >
> > > > On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, sunertl  wrote:
> >
> > > > > I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured
> as
> > > > > Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
> > > > > relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a
> little
> > > > > bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little
> project
> > > > > database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
> > > > > out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
> > > > > showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
> > > > > BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
> > > > > latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
> > > > > Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
> > > > > competition.
> > > > > To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
> > > > > seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.
> >
> > > > > On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
> >
> > > > > >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
> >
> > > > > > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were
> worse than
> > > > > > those framework... :)
> > > > > > does anyone here have already done some research with those
> framework's
> > > > > > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
> >
> > > > > > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
> >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > --http://www.wmonou.com
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Ged Crimsonclaw

I just voted it 40 stars, because that's just how good it is.

On Feb 2, 4:43 am, the_woodsman  wrote:
> I just gave Cake a 5 star rating :)
>
> On Feb 2, 12:11 am, yusuf widi  wrote:
>
> > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> > those framework... :)
> > does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> > Thanks.
> > --http://www.wmonou.com

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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread ache...@gmail.com

And now the site has been completely F'ed. It looks like they aren't
sanitizing their data (shame on them) and now people have figured out
that you can post whatever you want in there as a review. "I liked
cake for 500 stars." Look at the average, 5.3 means people are gaming
it. So, don't worry about it, it's just a website with a huge bug that
allows anyone do manipulate the crap out of the numbers. So go out and
use firebug or your favorite tool to post whatever you want to their
site, with under 30 posts to their site you could tank every framework
but one and set the one you like to be 500 stars avg. rating.

I'm going to make a brash assumption and say that this site is written
in pure php rather than a framework (or if it is a framework that
doesn't sanitize then the framework sucks and isn't worth anything).
So the only thing we can take away from this is this:

* Use a framework, it's better than nothing
* This is a good place to find a list of other frameworks to try
* The numbers don't mean anything so any bad reviews/good reviews
could be bogus so just try them all

Just my 0.02$

Sincerely,
~Andrew Allen

On Feb 2, 10:39 am, Martin Westin  wrote:
> @sunertl
> I was refering more to the website you linked to than to your post.
>
> I really liked this guy:
> "It is poorly written. Just look at those lengthy functions."
> Say what?
>
> And Cake is off the list... all the top ones new "un-heard-of"
> frameworks :)
> But look at the id's.
>
> Zend is id 1 (quite natural to start with that one)
> Cake is 2...http://www.phpframeworks.com/php-frameworks/index.php?id=2
>
> Make of that what you will.
>
> On Feb 2, 3:46 pm, sunertl  wrote:
>
> > Oh, if is seemed I cried jihad, i made something wrong! Maybe because
> > english is not my primary language...
> > To be honest I do not give a  about the rank of a framework or
> > another. I use rankings like the mentioned one to look what is new in
> > the field of frameworks. This way I discovered Yii and I like it. For
> > small projects it seems a pretty good choice but for larger ones
> > nothing beats Cake imho.
>
> > I really hate those "my-os-is-better, my-framework-is-cooler, my-
> > browser-is-safer"-discussions. everyone should test a few of the
> > frameworks and use the one that fits his way of developing best.
> > Rankings can only give you an overview.
>
> > On 2 Feb., 14:04, Martin Westin  wrote:
>
> > > Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
> > > framework :)
>
> > > If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
> > > very best short films and 
> > > videos.http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0
>
> > > You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the same as
> > > good.
>
> > > What I conclude is that Akelos have some very dedicated fans. That is
> > > all.
>
> > > On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, sunertl  wrote:
>
> > > > I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
> > > > Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
> > > > relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
> > > > bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
> > > > database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
> > > > out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
> > > > showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
> > > > BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
> > > > latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
> > > > Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
> > > > competition.
> > > > To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
> > > > seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.
>
> > > > On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> > > > >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> > > > > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse 
> > > > > than
> > > > > those framework... :)
> > > > > does anyone here have already done some research with those 
> > > > > framework's
> > > > > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> > > > > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > --http://www.wmonou.com
>
>
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Westin

@sunertl
I was refering more to the website you linked to than to your post.

I really liked this guy:
"It is poorly written. Just look at those lengthy functions."
Say what?

And Cake is off the list... all the top ones new "un-heard-of"
frameworks :)
But look at the id's.

Zend is id 1 (quite natural to start with that one)
Cake is 2...
http://www.phpframeworks.com/php-frameworks/index.php?id=2

Make of that what you will.




On Feb 2, 3:46 pm, sunertl  wrote:
> Oh, if is seemed I cried jihad, i made something wrong! Maybe because
> english is not my primary language...
> To be honest I do not give a  about the rank of a framework or
> another. I use rankings like the mentioned one to look what is new in
> the field of frameworks. This way I discovered Yii and I like it. For
> small projects it seems a pretty good choice but for larger ones
> nothing beats Cake imho.
>
> I really hate those "my-os-is-better, my-framework-is-cooler, my-
> browser-is-safer"-discussions. everyone should test a few of the
> frameworks and use the one that fits his way of developing best.
> Rankings can only give you an overview.
>
> On 2 Feb., 14:04, Martin Westin  wrote:
>
> > Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
> > framework :)
>
> > If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
> > very best short films and 
> > videos.http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0
>
> > You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the same as
> > good.
>
> > What I conclude is that Akelos have some very dedicated fans. That is
> > all.
>
> > On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, sunertl  wrote:
>
> > > I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
> > > Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
> > > relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
> > > bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
> > > database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
> > > out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
> > > showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
> > > BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
> > > latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
> > > Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
> > > competition.
> > > To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
> > > seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.
>
> > > On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
>
> > > > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> > > >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> > > > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse 
> > > > than
> > > > those framework... :)
> > > > does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> > > > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> > > > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > --http://www.wmonou.com
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Nate

That's too meta.  Your head asplode.

On Feb 2, 10:57 am, Samuel DeVore  wrote:
> nate do you have a top ten list of people who like to make top ten
> lists?  I'm looking for the top 'ten list' maker to see how cakephp
> ranks among the top ten,  ten list makers who make lists about the top
> ten frameworks for the top ten languages...  but they have to of made
> at least 10 top ten lists on ten topics to be considered for this
> list...
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Nate  wrote:
>
> > These kinds of top 10 lists are for people with nothing better to do
> > with their time than make top 10 lists.
>
> > On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
> >> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> >>http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> >> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> >> those framework... :)
> >> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> >> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> >> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> >> Thanks.
> >> --http://www.wmonou.com
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Samuel DeVore

nate do you have a top ten list of people who like to make top ten
lists?  I'm looking for the top 'ten list' maker to see how cakephp
ranks among the top ten,  ten list makers who make lists about the top
ten frameworks for the top ten languages...  but they have to of made
at least 10 top ten lists on ten topics to be considered for this
list...



On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Nate  wrote:
>
> These kinds of top 10 lists are for people with nothing better to do
> with their time than make top 10 lists.
>
> On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
>> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>>
>> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>>
>> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
>> those framework... :)
>> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
>> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>>
>> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --http://www.wmonou.com
> >
>

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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Nate

These kinds of top 10 lists are for people with nothing better to do
with their time than make top 10 lists.

On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread teknoid

Top 10 this, top 10 That... you know that 87% of all statics are
misleading :)

Use the one that makes sense for your project and the one that you
like working with...
There is no fair comparison of any framework that would be equally
great for any application.

(Well, besides cake of course ;))

On Feb 2, 8:04 am, Martin Westin  wrote:
> Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
> framework :)
>
> If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
> very best short films and videos.http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0
>
> You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the same as
> good.
>
> What I conclude is that Akelos have some very dedicated fans. That is
> all.
>
> On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, sunertl  wrote:
>
> > I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
> > Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
> > relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
> > bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
> > database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
> > out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
> > showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
> > BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
> > latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
> > Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
> > competition.
> > To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
> > seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.
>
> > On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
>
> > > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> > >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> > > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> > > those framework... :)
> > > does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> > > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> > > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> > > Thanks.
> > > --http://www.wmonou.com
>
>
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread sunertl

Oh, if is seemed I cried jihad, i made something wrong! Maybe because
english is not my primary language...
To be honest I do not give a  about the rank of a framework or
another. I use rankings like the mentioned one to look what is new in
the field of frameworks. This way I discovered Yii and I like it. For
small projects it seems a pretty good choice but for larger ones
nothing beats Cake imho.

I really hate those "my-os-is-better, my-framework-is-cooler, my-
browser-is-safer"-discussions. everyone should test a few of the
frameworks and use the one that fits his way of developing best.
Rankings can only give you an overview.


On 2 Feb., 14:04, Martin Westin  wrote:
> Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
> framework :)
>
> If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
> very best short films and videos.http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0
>
> You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the same as
> good.
>
> What I conclude is that Akelos have some very dedicated fans. That is
> all.
>
> On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, sunertl  wrote:
>
> > I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
> > Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
> > relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
> > bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
> > database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
> > out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
> > showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
> > BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
> > latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
> > Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
> > competition.
> > To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
> > seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.
>
> > On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
>
> > > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> > >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> > > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> > > those framework... :)
> > > does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> > > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> > > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> > > Thanks.
> > > --http://www.wmonou.com
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Westin

Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
framework :)

If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
very best short films and videos.
http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0

You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the same as
good.

What I conclude is that Akelos have some very dedicated fans. That is
all.



On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, sunertl  wrote:
> I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
> Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
> relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
> bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
> database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
> out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
> showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
> BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
> latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
> Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
> competition.
> To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
> seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.
>
> On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
>
> > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> > Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> > those framework... :)
> > does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> > which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> > for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> > Thanks.
> > --http://www.wmonou.com
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread sunertl

I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
database which I also made in cake and (without optimizing the hell
out of both frameworks) Yii kicks Cakes ass concerning speed of
showing up a list of projects with data from a few related tables.
BUT: the Yii implementation is only a subset of the Cake one as the
latter is in use for over a year now and customized a LOT while the
Yii is new and not very customized. So it is not an all fair
competition.
To round it up: I love Cake for the comfort in developing while Yii
seems a little bit faster when the coding work is done.

On 2 Feb., 01:11, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
> --http://www.wmonou.com
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Re: Top 10 Framework

2009-02-02 Thread the_woodsman

I just gave Cake a 5 star rating :)


On Feb 2, 12:11 am, yusuf widi  wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone here have already done some research with those framework's
> which is have higher place than CakePHP?.
>
> for me, i had only done some research with Zend and CodeIgniter.
>
> Thanks.
> --http://www.wmonou.com
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