Re: [ccp4bb] homology modeling

2010-08-26 Thread Christian Rausch
Dear Paul!

you might want to have a look at http://salilab.org/modeller/ . The
stand alone version is free for academia.

Christian

___
Dr. Christian Rausch
Lehrstuhl für Biologische Chemie
Technische Universität München, Germany

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Paul Kraft  wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I've been using an the on-line homology modeling program Jigsaw-3D, and would 
> like to run it on my own Linux box, but it requires CHARM, which I am 
> unvailable to get because I am currently looking for a faculty position... 
> does anyone know of an open source energy minimization program that can be 
> substituted for CHARM (will GROMOS from SWISS PROT work?).   Also is their 
> any open source homology modeling program that includes solvent interactions 
> in the minimization (it seems they all require $$, at least the good one's). 
> Thanks in advance.
> Paul
>
> Dr. Paul Kraft
> Structural Biologist
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Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-26 Thread Paul Emsley

On 25/08/10 23:24, Garib Murshudov wrote:


However 1) coot uses 2mFo-DFc maps


Typically yes, but it uses whatever Refmac (or other programs) provide 
(of course)



2) you should be able to feed any map you want to coot


Yes.


so it is nice place for experimenting this kind
of calculation


Hopefully.


  3) You may try to relax gemetry


R/RC -> Refinement Weight.

(I often change it to 6 (from 60) if I need to tighten things up.)


4) Usually if the
model does not fit into electron density and programs do not want to
correct it then there may be some fundamental problem in this part of
the model


Agreed!




On 25/08/10 23:13, Hailiang Zhang wrote:

Actually I tried coot real space refine zone, but the model seems not
sliding into the best density map


Can you expand on that?



On 25/08/10 23:33, Pavel Afonine wrote:

Compare slides #4 and #5:
http://cci.lbl.gov/~afonine/rsr.pdf

   


Yes, slide 5 is what Coot uses.

Paul.


Re: [ccp4bb] Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the residue range explicitly specified?

2010-08-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson

Well - that is exactly what COOT does isnt it?
Eleanor

Hailiang Zhang wrote:

Hi,

Can some utilities of CCP4 do the real-space refinement locally with the
residue range explicitly specified?

By the way, I have registered phenix bb. Just didn't realize this before,
sorry again.

Best Regards, Hailiang


[ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread ganesh pathare
Dear all,

I have problems in purifying a protein. The protein is 38,000 daltons and
has a N-ter His-Tag. The protein expression levels are low and as a result I
have a limit for the purification steps.
Initially I used NiNTA columns with 50 mM sodium phosphate buffer pH8, 300
mM NaCl, 20 to 250 mM Immidazole for the affinity purification, but it
contains lot of impurities. I varied the salt concentrations out of which I
could get optimal results at 20 mM NaCl concentration but still the amount
of impurities was more.
After affinity purifications I used Ion exchange chromatography using MonoQ
column (25 mM tris pH 7.5,  NaCl 0 to 1M) which could not seperate the
protein from the impurities. I also tried using Hydrophobic interaction
chromatography (Resource Ether, Phenyl sepharose, Resource
Isopropyl) instead of ionexchange chromatography, which resulted in
better purification of the protein, but the problem is I get very less
protein after this step and there are still two major impurities. The buffer
conditions for HIC was (1.5 M ammonium sulphate, 25 mM Phosphate buffer pH
7).


I would be very greatful if someone could help me in this concern.
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ganesh


Re: [ccp4bb] offtopic: effect of compound impurities on ITC?

2010-08-26 Thread Justin Hall

Hi Francis,

I might save you some time by telling you up front you should just go  
back and purify your compound to remove the impurity, you dont even  
need to read the rest of this, just go.


Along the lines of what Savvas was saying, with any equilibrium  
binding assay between two direct competitors ("Y" is the impurity and  
"Z" is your analyte), if you are working at concentrations above the  
KD then the resultant complexes (XY and XZ) will partition according  
to their relative association strengths (dG) and concentrations. So,  
if Y and Z have equivalent dG values, then the concentration of XY  
([XY]) and [XZ] will be a function of [Y] and [Z], if [Y]=[Z] in this  
circumstance then [XY]=[XZ].


If dGy >> dGz or [Y] >> [Z], then you are in the clear. This is why  
going back to purify Z from Y is a good idea.


Now,the great thing about ITC is of course that you can get dG, dH and  
-TdS in one experiment, but this is also going to bite you in the butt  
here since you will simultaneously be determining dG, dH and -TdS for  
both Y and Z, which leaves you will more unknowns that you have data  
to solve for unless you independently know [X], [Y], [Z] and dG, dH  
and -TdS for XY or XZ.


In fact, the circumstance where you know [X], [Y], [Z] and dG, dH and  
-TdS for XY or XZ is what Savvas is describing with "displacement"  
assays, and unless I am misunderstanding your situation it sounds like  
you dont know these parameters. For that reason I would not qualify  
this as a displacement assay, but instead just as a poorly controlled  
experiment . Now, you might be able to do the experiment with pure Y  
binding to X to determine dG, dH and TdS, then perform the proposed  
experiment with impure Y and Z as a "displacement" binding, but this  
is going to still be a headache because your uncertainty will be  
greater, you will not have as accurate a measure of [Y] and [Z] as  
when they are pure, and since your your direct signal (dH) is going to  
be from the formation of both XY and XZ (dHtotal = dHy + dHz) S/N will  
be equal to or less than the experiment with pure Y or pure Z (my  
nanny used to say 'dont do good experiments with bad reagents, youll  
just waste time', she was very wise).


Hope that helps, cheers~

~Justin







Quoting Savvas Savvides :


Hi Francis
I guess it depends on how much residual high-affinity binder you  
have in the mixture and what the difference in affinity is between Y  
and deriv-Y. Another issue is of course whether Y and derY compete  
for the same binding site and have the same stoichiometry. A well  
designed displacement ITC experiment and comparisons thereof with  
ITC data for your high-affinity binder should lead to some good  
answers.  Knowing the ratio of Y vs deriv-Y in your starting  
compound solution will be an advantage.


A very useful reference in thinking about and carrying out  
displacement ITC in our group has been the one by Velazquez-Campoy  
and Freire. This article was specifically written to address the  
application of displacement titrations in ITC. We have applied this  
approach to address several types of questions concerning  
interactions in the uM-pM range.


Velazquez-Campoy A, Freire E.
Isothermal titration calorimetry to determine association constants  
for high-affinity ligands

Nat Protoc. 2006;1(1):186-91.

Best regards
Savvas


Savvas Savvides
Unit for Structural Biology @ L-ProBE
Ghent University
K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35, 9000 Ghent, Belgium
Ph. +32  (0)472 928 519 http://www.LProBE.ugent.be/xray.html



On 24 Aug 2010, at 17:11, Francis E Reyes wrote:


Hi All

I'm curious the effect of small impurities in commercially  
synthesized compounds on ITC and its analysis. Say if compound Y is  
the high affinity binder, but you make a derivative that differs  
from a single functional group from Y (you used Y to make this new  
compound) and you never are able to completely get rid of Y. How  
does this affect the analysis of determining the derivative's  
affinity by ITC?


References or personal experience is appreciated!

F

-
Francis E. Reyes M.Sc.
215 UCB
University of Colorado at Boulder

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[ccp4bb] CALL FOR PROPOSALS FOR ESRF BEAMTIME WITH ONLINE MICROSPEC (22nd to 25th of October 2010]

2010-08-26 Thread David Flot
- 


CALL FOR PROPOSALS FOR ESRF BEAM TIME WITH ONLINE MICROSPEC

Proposal Deadline *9th September 2010*

There will be beam time available at the ESRF for MX data collection 
with a setup that allows online monitoring of UV/VIS absorbance or 
fluorescence spectral changes of the crystal during the X-ray 
diffraction experiment. Users who are
interested in using this beam time (including those who are members of 
BAG Groups) should using the following mechanism:


_http://www.esrf.fr/UsersAndScience/UserGuide/Applying/ProposalGuidelines/MXnon-BAGproposal 
_


and *it must be clearly indicated in the title of the proposal form that 
the online monitoring of spectral changes is necessary for the project*.


A brief description of the device is given below however users are 
encouraged to consult the web pages for detailed information:


_http://www.esrf.fr/UsersAndScience/Experiments/MX/How_to_use_our_beamlines/Run_Your_Experiment/Microspectrophotometer_User_Guide_ 



As this is not a standard setup, it might take a significant amount of 
time to train users, align the device, and analyze the data in order to 
derive relevant data collection schemes. *We will therefore schedule 24 
hours for each project*. The deadline for this specific application is 
*Thursday 9th September 2010*.


It is strongly recommended to record beforehand an absorption 
(fluorescence) spectrum of the crystal on a home microspectrophotometer 
such as the 4dx one, or at an off-line facility such as the ESRF 
Cryobench, and to provide it in the application form. Such a spectrum 
would greatly help determining the feasibility of the experiment. For 
optimal experimental conditions, crystals should be frozen in minimal 
amounts of cryosolution, especially when the crystals are small. 
Finally, please note that *the ESRF sample changer cannot be operated at 
the same time as the on-line microspec*._

_

*Dates of beam-time:* 22nd - 25th October 2010*
*Storage Ring: 7/8 +1 (200mA)
Beamline: ID14-1
Energy: 13.27 keV (not tunable)


Specifications:
UV/VIS-range: 250-1100 nm
Light source: Mikropack DH-2000-BAL (Deuterium/Halogen)
Fluorescence excitation wavelength: 266, 355, 405, 440, 561 nm
ODmax for UV-vis absorbance spectra: 2-2.5
Monitoring light size: 0.03 (min) - 0.15mm(max)
Sampling freq (to disk): 10Hz or lower
--- 



--


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Beam-Line Operation Manager Tel : (+33) 4 76 88 17 63
Structural Biology GroupFax : (+33) 4 76 88 26 24
ESRF
B.P. 220, 6 rue Jules Horowitz  e-mail : david.f...@esrf.fr
F-38043 GRENOBLE CEDEX  http://www.esrf.eu


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Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread Roger Rowlett


  
  
I generally find it is possible to purify most
  overexpressed proteins, even those at low levels of _expression_,
  with a combination of IEX and HIC methods. We use step-gradients
  to do our routine purifications, but may use gradients for
  polishing. If running gradients to polish partially pure samples,
  take care to run fairly long ones to achieve decent resolution. We
  routinely polish protein preps on Q-sepharose (Mono-Q should be
  even better) with at least 10 CV gradients over a narrower range
  of NaCl concentrations, maybe 0-0.5 M or even smaller. We
favor butylsepharose for HIC, as it is less sticky and more
selective in our hands. Again, a long gradient (10 CV or more) over
a narrower range of salt concentrations will be most effective. We
always use GEC for a final polish and desalting.

Cheers.

On 8/26/2010 8:24 AM, ganesh pathare wrote:

  Dear all,
   
  I have problems in purifying a protein. The protein is 38,000
daltons and has a N-ter His-Tag. The protein _expression_ levels
are low and as a result I have a limit for the purification
steps. 
  Initially I used NiNTA columns with 50 mM sodium phosphate
buffer pH8, 300 mM NaCl, 20 to 250 mM Immidazole for the
affinity purification, but it contains lot of impurities. I
varied the salt concentrations out of which I could get optimal
results at 20 mM NaCl concentration but still the amount of
impurities was more. 
  After affinity purifications I used Ion exchange
chromatography using MonoQ column (25 mM tris pH 7.5,  NaCl 0 to
1M) which could not seperate the protein from the impurities. I
also tried using Hydrophobic interaction chromatography
(Resource Ether, Phenyl sepharose, Resource Isopropyl) instead
of ionexchange chromatography, which resulted in
better purification of the protein, but the problem is I get
very less protein after this step and there are still two major
impurities. The buffer conditions for HIC was (1.5 M ammonium
sulphate, 25 mM Phosphate buffer pH 7).
   
   
  I would be very greatful if someone could help me in this
concern.
  Thanks in advance.
   
  Regards,
  Ganesh

-- 
  

Roger S. Rowlett
Professor
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University
13 Oak Drive
Hamilton, NY 13346

tel: (315)-228-7245
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fax: (315)-228-7935
email: rrowl...@colgate.edu
  

  



Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 11:35 -0400, Roger Rowlett wrote:
> We routinely polish protein preps on Q-sepharose (Mono-Q should be
> even better) with at least 10 CV gradients over a narrower range of
> NaCl concentrations, maybe 0-0.5 M or even smaller.

Just wanted to add that in my experience the resolution of ion exchange
columns depends hugely on flow rate (in addition to the steepness of the
gradient).  Some columns (e.g. BioRad's UnoQ/UnoS) can be run at really
high flow rate (up to 4 ml/min) which is tempting given the small size
of these columns (with 6ml UnoQ you can be done with 10CV gradient in 15
minutes).  It's more common to use 0.5-1 ml/min, but I've seen some
unbelievable resolution when slowing down about an order of magnitude.
You'd have to run overnight, but it's worth it.

Cheers,

Ed. 

-- 
"I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling."
   Julian, King of Lemurs


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread Matthew Bratkowski
Hi.

What size are the impurities?  If they are smaller than your protein, then
they could actually be truncation products, which will be difficult to
purify away since they maintain some of the same characteristics as the full
length protein.  You can check for C-terminal truncations using a
His-antibody, but N-terminal ones will be harder to detect.  If the
impurities are larger (particularly if they are around 70 kDa), you could be
looking at E. coli chaperones.

To improve, the purity of the first Ni-NTA step, I would include a more
stringent wash.  How many column volumes do you wash with now, and how high
of imidazole concentration? You can go up to 20 mM Imidazole in your wash.
 You could also include some glycerol in your buffer (up to 10%) and
betamercaptoethanol (around 5 mM) to break non-specific protein
interactions.  For ion exchange, run a shallow gradient and include more
column volumes of wash before elution.  For the third step purification, I
would recommend using size exclusion chromatography.  Either Superdex 200 or
Sephacryl S-100 would probably work to remove some impurities as long as the
impurities are a different size than your protein of interest.  I would use
between 150 mM - 1 M NaCl in the buffer, depending on how strong the
non-specific interaction is, and 1 - 2 mM DTT.  Make sure to collect small
fractions (0.3 - 1.5 mL) to reduce contamination from nearby peaks.

Matt

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, ganesh pathare wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have problems in purifying a protein. The protein is 38,000 daltons and
> has a N-ter His-Tag. The protein expression levels are low and as a result I
> have a limit for the purification steps.
> Initially I used NiNTA columns with 50 mM sodium phosphate buffer pH8, 300
> mM NaCl, 20 to 250 mM Immidazole for the affinity purification, but it
> contains lot of impurities. I varied the salt concentrations out of which I
> could get optimal results at 20 mM NaCl concentration but still the amount
> of impurities was more.
> After affinity purifications I used Ion exchange chromatography using MonoQ
> column (25 mM tris pH 7.5,  NaCl 0 to 1M) which could not seperate the
> protein from the impurities. I also tried using Hydrophobic interaction
> chromatography (Resource Ether, Phenyl sepharose, Resource
> Isopropyl) instead of ionexchange chromatography, which resulted in
> better purification of the protein, but the problem is I get very less
> protein after this step and there are still two major impurities. The buffer
> conditions for HIC was (1.5 M ammonium sulphate, 25 mM Phosphate buffer pH
> 7).
>
>
> I would be very greatful if someone could help me in this concern.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Ganesh
>


Re: [ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar (quick summary)

2010-08-26 Thread Mark J van Raaij
Dear All, 

people have pointed me to:
LigPlot+ (http://www.ebi.ac.uk/thornton-srv/software/LigPlus/)

MOE from ChemComp (not free)

PDBSUM (http://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbsum/): prerun LIGPLOT results, only for 
released pdb coordinates.

looks like I am stuck to Windows for now - at least it runs.

Mark 






On 25 Aug 2010, at 19:51, Mark J van Raaij wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Having just installed LIGPLOT under Windows, I find it rather convoluted to 
> run. It has to be run via de command line window, and I try to avoid Windows 
> as much as I can anyway.
> I also tried to install the Unix version on MacOSX, but was not able to get 
> it running properly, probably at least partly due to my relative lack of 
> informatics skills...
> 
> Is there an alternative program that does the same (pref. with MacOSX 
> version)? 
> 
> For the LIGPLOT developers, ideal would be a MacOSX installer (dmg) - I think 
> it would lead to more use of your program.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Mark van Raaij


Re: [ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar (quick summary)

2010-08-26 Thread Acharya, Priyamvada (NIH/VRC) [F]
Hi,

PDBsum can be used for not released co-ordinates as well- by using the 
"generate" option (found on the left panel on the webpage).

Priyamvada

-Original Message-
From: Mark J van Raaij [mailto:mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:46 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] LIGPLOT or similar (quick summary)

Dear All, 

people have pointed me to:
LigPlot+ (http://www.ebi.ac.uk/thornton-srv/software/LigPlus/)

MOE from ChemComp (not free)

PDBSUM (http://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbsum/): prerun LIGPLOT results, only for 
released pdb coordinates.

looks like I am stuck to Windows for now - at least it runs.

Mark 






On 25 Aug 2010, at 19:51, Mark J van Raaij wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Having just installed LIGPLOT under Windows, I find it rather convoluted to 
> run. It has to be run via de command line window, and I try to avoid Windows 
> as much as I can anyway.
> I also tried to install the Unix version on MacOSX, but was not able to get 
> it running properly, probably at least partly due to my relative lack of 
> informatics skills...
> 
> Is there an alternative program that does the same (pref. with MacOSX 
> version)? 
> 
> For the LIGPLOT developers, ideal would be a MacOSX installer (dmg) - I think 
> it would lead to more use of your program.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Mark van Raaij


[ccp4bb] Heme Proteins

2010-08-26 Thread Hari Namboodiri
Hi CCPers

Can anyone provide insights about expressing heme containing proteins in E.col? 
Does E.coli need any porphyrin precursor during expression or you need special 
E.coli strains. I have references mentioning delta-aminolevulinic acid for one 
ortholog but none for another. The enzyme is CYP51.


Thanks
Hari


Re: [ccp4bb] Heme Proteins

2010-08-26 Thread R. M. Garavito

Dear Hari,

You might look at Lucy Waskell's experiences with full length  
mammalian Cytochrome P450 2B4.  While she got >50 mg of purified  
protein per liter of culture, many other heme proteins are much harder  
to express in E. coli with heme assembly proteins, chaperones, etc.   
You just have to try it.  However, for cytochrome P450s, you might  
want to resort to some molecular engineering to increase expression (a  
la Eric Johnson and co.; look of cytochrome P450 2C9 structure for  
example).


Saribas, Gruenke, and Waskell (2001) Overexpression and Purification  
of the Membrane-Bound Cytochrome P450 2B4.  Protein Expression and  
Purification 21, 303–309.


Good luck,

Michael


R. Michael Garavito, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
513 Biochemistry Bldg.
Michigan State University
East Lansing, MI 48824-1319
Office:  (517) 355-9724 Lab:  (517) 353-9125
FAX:  (517) 353-9334Email:  rmgarav...@gmail.com




On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Hari Namboodiri wrote:


Hi CCPers

Can anyone provide insights about expressing heme containing  
proteins in E.col? Does E.coli need any porphyrin precursor during  
expression or you need special E.coli strains. I have references  
mentioning delta-aminolevulinic acid for one ortholog but none for  
another. The enzyme is CYP51.



Thanks
Hari




Re: [ccp4bb] Heme Proteins

2010-08-26 Thread Edward A. Berry

I think you need a special trick to express C-type heme proteins.

For B hemes (protoheme, protoporphryn 9), which I think is
what the P450's have, E.coli is always expressing several
proteins which contain it. But I guess there may be some way
to up the production in case of an overexpresser.

Hari Namboodiri wrote:

Hi CCPers

Can anyone provide insights about expressing heme containing proteins in E.col? 
Does E.coli need any porphyrin precursor during expression or you need special 
E.coli strains. I have references mentioning delta-aminolevulinic acid for one 
ortholog but none for another. The enzyme is CYP51.


Thanks
Hari



[ccp4bb] Can CCP4 refine B factors for several residues only?

2010-08-26 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi,

I want to refine B factors for several residues only (all the other B
factors and all coordinates fixed, I know it sounds weird but there is a
reason to try that). Is there anyway CCP4 can do this? Thanks for any
suggestions!

Best Regards, Hailiang


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread Phoebe Rice
Have you tried expression tricks like Rosetta cells?  Testing different 
colonies and/or starting from fresh transformants?  Sometimes that matters.

If your protein is an oligomer and your contaminants are degradation products, 
you might try adding some urea.  If desparate, you could spike the fraction 
collector tubes with EDTA when you run the Ni column, as well as using the 
usual protease inhibitors.

   Phoebe

=
Phoebe A. Rice
Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago
phone 773 834 1723
http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/01_Faculty/01_Faculty_Alphabetically.php?faculty_id=123
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 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:07:45 -0400
>From: CCP4 bulletin board  (on behalf of Matthew 
>Bratkowski )
>Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification  
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
>   Hi.
>   What size are the impurities?  If they are smaller
>   than your protein, then they could actually be
>   truncation products, which will be difficult to
>   purify away since they maintain some of the same
>   characteristics as the full length protein.  You
>   can check for C-terminal truncations using a
>   His-antibody, but N-terminal ones will be harder to
>   detect.  If the impurities are larger (particularly
>   if they are around 70 kDa), you could be looking at
>   E. coli chaperones.
>   To improve, the purity of the first Ni-NTA step, I
>   would include a more stringent wash.  How many
>   column volumes do you wash with now, and how high of
>   imidazole concentration? You can go up to 20 mM
>   Imidazole in your wash.  You could also include
>   some glycerol in your buffer (up to 10%) and
>   betamercaptoethanol (around 5 mM) to break
>   non-specific protein interactions.  For ion
>   exchange, run a shallow gradient and include more
>   column volumes of wash before elution.  For the
>   third step purification, I would recommend using
>   size exclusion chromatography.  Either Superdex 200
>   or Sephacryl S-100 would probably work to remove
>   some impurities as long as the impurities are a
>   different size than your protein of interest.  I
>   would use between 150 mM - 1 M NaCl in the buffer,
>   depending on how strong the non-specific interaction
>   is, and 1 - 2 mM DTT.  Make sure to collect small
>   fractions (0.3 - 1.5 mL) to reduce contamination
>   from nearby peaks.
>   Matt
>
>   On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, ganesh pathare
>wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>  
> I have problems in purifying a protein. The
> protein is 38,000 daltons and has a N-ter
> His-Tag. The protein expression levels are low
> and as a result I have a limit for the
> purification steps.
> Initially I used NiNTA columns with 50 mM sodium
> phosphate buffer pH8, 300 mM NaCl, 20 to 250 mM
> Immidazole for the affinity purification, but it
> contains lot of impurities. I varied the salt
> concentrations out of which I could get optimal
> results at 20 mM NaCl concentration but still the
> amount of impurities was more.
> After affinity purifications I used Ion exchange
> chromatography using MonoQ column (25 mM tris pH
> 7.5,  NaCl 0 to 1M) which could not seperate the
> protein from the impurities. I also tried using
> Hydrophobic interaction chromatography (Resource
> Ether, Phenyl sepharose, Resource
> Isopropyl) instead of ionexchange chromatography,
> which resulted in better purification of the
> protein, but the problem is I get very less
> protein after this step and there are still two
> major impurities. The buffer conditions for HIC
> was (1.5 M ammonium sulphate, 25 mM Phosphate
> buffer pH 7).
>  
>  
> I would be very greatful if someone could help me
> in this concern.
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Regards,
> Ganesh


Re: [ccp4bb] Heme Proteins

2010-08-26 Thread James Qiu
Hari,

I have expressed sulfite oxidase (with a N-terminal heme) in E. coli strain 
TP1000 which resulted in red protein. I did not supplement the media with iron 
or a porphyrin precursor. 

Sincerely,

James 

On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Hari Namboodiri wrote:

> Hi CCPers
> 
> Can anyone provide insights about expressing heme containing proteins in 
> E.col? Does E.coli need any porphyrin precursor during expression or you need 
> special E.coli strains. I have references mentioning delta-aminolevulinic 
> acid for one ortholog but none for another. The enzyme is CYP51.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Hari


Re: [ccp4bb] Can CCP4 refine B factors for several residues only?

2010-08-26 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 26 August 2010 11:56:39 am Hailiang Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to refine B factors for several residues only (all the other B
> factors and all coordinates fixed, I know it sounds weird but there is a
> reason to try that). 

Maybe you could tell us what this reason is?

> Is there anyway CCP4 can do this? Thanks for any suggestions!

Suggestion 1)

Calculate structure factors for the entire rest of the model.
Include these as F_partial contributing to the refinement of a model
containing only your residues of interest.  In this refinement,
refine only the B terms.

Caveat:  I think you will encounter problems with how to handle
the bulk solvent correction.  Perhaps that must be included in
F_partial also, and omitted from the subsequence mini-refinement.

Suggestion 2)

- Place your residues of interest in a single TLS group.
- Do not assign any other atoms or residues to a TLS group.
- Refine the entire model using refmac in TLS refinement mode.
  Choose 5 or 10 cycles of TLS refinement, but 0 cycles of
  coordinate/Biso refinement. Disregard all output other than the
  refined TLS description for the B factors in your residues of
  interest.
- Use TLSANL to expand the TLS parameters back to individual
  Biso if you like.



> 
> Best Regards, Hailiang
> 

-- 
Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742


Re: [ccp4bb] Can CCP4 refine B factors for several residues only?

2010-08-26 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Thanks a lot Ethan, I will give it a try.

Best Regards, Hailiang
> On Thursday 26 August 2010 11:56:39 am Hailiang Zhang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to refine B factors for several residues only (all the other B
>> factors and all coordinates fixed, I know it sounds weird but there is a
>> reason to try that).
>
> Maybe you could tell us what this reason is?
>
>> Is there anyway CCP4 can do this? Thanks for any suggestions!
>
> Suggestion 1)
>
> Calculate structure factors for the entire rest of the model.
> Include these as F_partial contributing to the refinement of a model
> containing only your residues of interest.  In this refinement,
> refine only the B terms.
>
> Caveat:  I think you will encounter problems with how to handle
> the bulk solvent correction.  Perhaps that must be included in
> F_partial also, and omitted from the subsequence mini-refinement.
>
> Suggestion 2)
>
> - Place your residues of interest in a single TLS group.
> - Do not assign any other atoms or residues to a TLS group.
> - Refine the entire model using refmac in TLS refinement mode.
>   Choose 5 or 10 cycles of TLS refinement, but 0 cycles of
>   coordinate/Biso refinement. Disregard all output other than the
>   refined TLS description for the B factors in your residues of
>   interest.
> - Use TLSANL to expand the TLS parameters back to individual
>   Biso if you like.
>
>
>
>>
>> Best Regards, Hailiang
>>
>
> --
> Ethan A Merritt
> Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
> University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Can CCP4 refine B factors for several residues only?

2010-08-26 Thread Garib N Murshudov
One more additional way is to apply harmonic restraint on all coordinates and 
all B values apart from those you want to refine. If harmonic restraints are 
strong enough then B values will not move much. 
But I do not like this option.


Regards
Garib

On 26 Aug 2010, at 19:56, Hailiang Zhang wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to refine B factors for several residues only (all the other B
> factors and all coordinates fixed, I know it sounds weird but there is a
> reason to try that). Is there anyway CCP4 can do this? Thanks for any
> suggestions!
> 
> Best Regards, Hailiang


[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Heme Proteins

2010-08-26 Thread Jan Schoepe
Hary,

Delta-aminolevulinic acid is the classical heme (heme b) 
precursor for your experiments. As far as I know, the synthesis of 
porphyrin goes very quickly in E. coli, since I tried it once with a 
bacterial P450 and got a fat overexpression band after ~2hrs in the 
lysate. Also the photometric experiments worked well afterwards, means 
the protein also contained the porphyrin. However, I was also working on
 a CYP51 and important in this case was to make sure that the cells do 
NOT get so much air during shaking. That means e.g. low shaker speed, no
 buffles etc. Temperature should be low, but this also depends on your 
vector. Do you use e.g. pCWori+ - pET vectors do often not work for 
CYP51s - ? Sometimes, there are other additives rather than dALA used 
like thymine etc. Moreover, for these P450 expressions, often Fernbach 
flasks are taken (they are a
 little bit wider on the bottom than the Erlenmeyer flasks). I wonder if
 this really makes sense for the CYP51 expressions though, because the 
idea of these bottles is to INCREASE the interface of bacterial medium 
and air

HTH
Jan

--- Hari Namboodiri  schrieb am Do, 
26.8.2010:

Von: Hari Namboodiri 
Betreff: [ccp4bb] Heme Proteins
An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Datum: Donnerstag, 26. August, 2010 18:56 Uhr

Hi CCPers

Can anyone provide insights about expressing heme containing proteins in E.col? 
Does E.coli need any porphyrin precursor during expression or you need special 
E.coli strains. I have references mentioning delta-aminolevulinic acid for one 
ortholog but none for another. The enzyme is CYP51.


Thanks
Hari




Re: [ccp4bb] turn granular to crystal

2010-08-26 Thread yybbll
Hi, 
A little danger this condition. I suggest you should firstly make sure they are 
protein crystals. I know it is very difficult. I suggest you can add proteases 
to the drops. If "crystals" dissolve, no problem, they are protein crystals.

Best

Yibin

2010-08-27 



yybbll 



发件人: rui 
发送时间: 2010-08-27  02:04:54 
收件人: yybbll 
抄送: 
主题: Re: [ccp4bb] turn granular to crystal 
hi,  


no , I didn't use detergent. THe composition of the well buffer is just PEG4000 
and MgCl2  and NaAc. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:52 AM, yybbll  wrote:

Hi, Did you use detergent? It seems look like detergent crystals.


2010-08-25 



yybbll 



发件人: rui 
发送时间: 2010-08-25  20:37:18 
收件人: CCP4BB 
抄送: 
主题: [ccp4bb] turn granular to crystal 
Hi, All,

I'm trying to crystallize a soluble protein and got something like granular, 
they are rounded shaped and not so regular and also don't have sharp edges. See 
the attached pic. The current condition is PEG4000 and pH around 5. How can I 
improve this condition? Thanks a lot.


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in purification

2010-08-26 Thread Ho Leung Ng
I assume you are trying to do a non-denaturing prep. Have you run your
sample on a size exclusion column to see if it is aggregated? If it is
aggregated, it can stick to a lot of contaminating proteins which will
be difficult if not impossible to separate.


ho


> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, ganesh pathare 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have problems in purifying a protein. The protein is 38,000 daltons and
>> has a N-ter His-Tag. The protein expression levels are low and as a result I
>> have a limit for the purification steps.
>> Initially I used NiNTA columns with 50 mM sodium phosphate buffer pH8, 300
>> mM NaCl, 20 to 250 mM Immidazole for the affinity purification, but it
>> contains lot of impurities. I varied the salt concentrations out of which I
>> could get optimal results at 20 mM NaCl concentration but still the amount
>> of impurities was more.
>> After affinity purifications I used Ion exchange chromatography using MonoQ
>> column (25 mM tris pH 7.5,  NaCl 0 to 1M) which could not seperate the
>> protein from the impurities. I also tried using Hydrophobic interaction
>> chromatography (Resource Ether, Phenyl sepharose, Resource
>> Isopropyl) instead of ionexchange chromatography, which resulted in
>> better purification of the protein, but the problem is I get very less
>> protein after this step and there are still two major impurities. The buffer
>> conditions for HIC was (1.5 M ammonium sulphate, 25 mM Phosphate buffer pH
>> 7).
>>
>>
>> I would be very greatful if someone could help me in this concern.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ganesh
>>


Re: [ccp4bb] Heme Proteins

2010-08-26 Thread John A. Newitt

At 5:56 PM +0100 8/26/10, Hari Namboodiri wrote:

Can anyone provide insights about expressing heme containing 
proteins in E.col? Does E.coli need any porphyrin precursor during 
expression or you need special E.coli strains. I have references 
mentioning delta-aminolevulinic acid for one ortholog but none for 
another. The enzyme is CYP51.


With E. coli, you definitely want to include 5-aminolevulinic acid 
(ALA) in the culture before induction. For membrane anchored CYPs you 
will probably also need to use a special vector to get good 
expression. Many have tried and failed to get expression of some CYPs 
using pET vectors. I suggest that you look into a vector like pCWori 
(see citation below).


- John

Imai T, Globerman H, Gertner JM, Kagawa N, Waterman MR. Expression and
purification of functional human 17 alpha-hydroxylase/17,20-lyase (P450c17) in
Escherichia coli. Use of this system for study of a novel form of combined 17
alpha-hydroxylase/17,20-lyase deficiency. J Biol Chem. 1993 Sep
15;268(26):19681-9. PubMed PMID: 8396144.
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