Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with CCP4MG

2012-07-06 Thread Stuart McNicholas
Dear Regina,
On 5 Jul 2012, at 17:51, Regina Kettering wrote:

> Dear All;
> 
> I have two problems with the visualization program that I am hoping people 
> can help me with:
> 1) I downloaded a model from the Swiss-Model repository that I have been 
> trying to open on CCP4MG version 2.4.2.  I have it saved as a .pdb file but 
> when it loads, CCP4MG hangs and appears to convert the file into a .pdb.html 
> file.  I can remove any spurious lines in the file, resave, reload, to no 
> avail.  I can open the .pdb file without problems in Coot and Pymol.

Could you send me a (a link to) the pdb file so that I can llnk to see what is 
wrong. I am sure this must be something quite simple to fix.


> 2) I decided to try opening on a Windows machine (don't judge), so downloaded 
> CCP4MG executable today (version 2.5.2).  When installing, I received two 
> messages indicating that the executable is a virus.  Is anyone aware of this 
> problem; am I missing a program necessary to open the files? 

This is simply your anti-virus really thinking that CCP4MG is a virus. It is 
not. You need to tell your anti-virus program that CCP4MG is not a virus. How 
you do that depends on which anti-virus program you have. Then you need to 
search the web to find out how to deal  with false positives. If you know what 
your anti-virus program is, I might be able to help you with fixing the problem.

Best wishes,
Stuart McNicholas
 



[ccp4bb] Accessing CCP4MG applications via python scripts

2012-07-06 Thread Mo Wong
Hi,

I can't see any documentation on the CCP4MG web site that shows how to
access applications using python scripts.

If someone could e-mail me basic script that uses SSM to automatically
superimpose all loaded PDBs I'd be very grateful.

Thanks!


Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing CCP4MG applications via python scripts

2012-07-06 Thread Stuart McNicholas
Dear Mo,

On 6 Jul 2012, at 09:09, Mo Wong wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I can't see any documentation on the CCP4MG web site that shows how to access 
> applications using python scripts.
> 
> If someone could e-mail me basic script that uses SSM to automatically 
> superimpose all loaded PDBs I'd be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

I am afraid that scripting this kind of thing is not currently possible. You 
have to use Applications->Superpose models and then jsut press superpose. This 
will achieve same result, but probably with more button presses. I will add 
scripting ability in the future.

Best wishes,
Stuart McNicholas


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[ccp4bb] electron density peak volume

2012-07-06 Thread Andrew Pannifer
Hi,
Is there a way to ask peakmax to output the volume of each electron density 
peak that it detects (or is there a reasonably straightforward way to do this 
via an alternative command line runnable approach?)
Cheers,
Alan


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with CCP4MG

2012-07-06 Thread Regina Kettering
The model is a theoretical model of Q766C3 (nepenthesin 1), link to the 
download below:


http://swissmodel.expasy.org/?pid=smf02&source=repository&tid=file_model&mid=7d1184184e0086123cd94070ab861eb2_1

For the virus problem, it gives me the automatic "You have downloaded a file 
from the internet. It could be a virus" error, but then gives me two further 
errors when installing and automatically quarantines the files.  The program 
does not work because it then cannot find the two quarantined files.  The 
computer contains two sets of virus protection software: Symantic and Windows 
Defender.

Thank you for the help.

Regina




 From: Stuart McNicholas 
To: Regina Kettering  
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with CCP4MG
 

Dear Regina,

On 5 Jul 2012, at 17:51, Regina Kettering wrote:

Dear All;
>
>
>I have two problems with the visualization program that I am hoping people can 
>help me with:
>1) I downloaded a model from the Swiss-Model repository that I have been 
>trying to open on CCP4MG version 2.4.2.  I have it saved as a .pdb file but 
>when it loads, CCP4MG hangs and appears to convert the file into a .pdb.html 
>file.  I can remove any spurious lines in the file, resave, reload, to no 
>avail.  I can open the .pdb file without problems in Coot and Pymol.
>

Could you send me a (a link to) the pdb file so that I can llnk to see what is 
wrong. I am sure this must be something quite simple to fix.


2) I decided to try opening on a Windows machine (don't judge), so downloaded 
CCP4MG executable today (version 2.5.2).  When installing, I received two 
messages indicating that the executable is a virus.  Is anyone aware of this 
problem; am I missing a program necessary to open the files? 
>

This is simply your anti-virus really thinking that CCP4MG is a virus. It is 
not. You need to tell your anti-virus program that CCP4MG is not a virus. How 
you do that depends on which anti-virus program you have. Then you need to 
search the web to find out how to deal  with false positives. If you know what 
your anti-virus program is, I might be able to help you with fixing the problem.

Best wishes,
Stuart McNicholas

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density peak volume

2012-07-06 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Alan,

do you think the notion of 'volume of a peak' makes sense? You are
probably asking for the number of connected pixels around a local
maximum above a certain threshold - again, not sure whether this is a
useful concept and I am not aware of a program doing this calculation.

Regards,
Tim

On 07/06/12 15:40, Andrew Pannifer wrote:
> Hi, Is there a way to ask peakmax to output the volume of each
> electron density peak that it detects (or is there a reasonably
> straightforward way to do this via an alternative command line
> runnable approach?) Cheers, Alan
> 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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[ccp4bb] Workshop on Advanced Data Collection with Multi-axis Goniometer and Single-photon Counting Detector

2012-07-06 Thread Meitian Wang
Workshop on Advanced Data Collection with Multi-axis Goniometer and 
Single-photon Counting Detector
http://indico.psi.ch/multiaxisgonio2012
Swiss Light Source, Paul Scherrer Institut, Switzerland
Nov. 6th - 8th, 2012

This workshop will address aspects including application of multi-axis 
goniometer for difficult phasing experiments, data collection optimization for 
single-photon counting detectors, as well as data processing optimization to 
take full advantage of crystal geometry and detector properties. Hardware and 
software developments, as well as user applications will be covered.
The workshop contains both lectures and practicals. Data collection practicals 
will be performed at beamline X06DA at the Swiss Light Source on a multi-axis 
goniometer PRIGo and a PILATUS 2M detector. Data processing tutorials will be 
on the following programs: AutoPROC (XDS/SCALA), PROTEUM, and CrysAlisPro.

There will be no registration fee and all local expenses will be covered, but 
participants are requested to take care of their travel arrangements.

The workshop is limited to 20 participants.

http://indico.psi.ch/multiaxisgonio2012

This workshop is funded by BioStruct-X (WP10.7).

Speakers
Gerard Bricogne, Global Phasing Ltd. 
Sandor Brockhauser, ESRF
Kay Diederichs, Uni. Konstanz
Gwyndaf Evans, Diamond Light Source
Pierre Legrand, SOLEIL
Andrew McCarthy, ESRF
Marcus Muller, Dectris, Ltd.
Vincent Olieric, SLS
Michael Ruf, Bruker AXS
Thomas Schneider, PETRAIII
Clemens Schulze-Briese, Dectris, Ltd.
Tadeusz Skarzynski, Agilent Technologies
Andrew Thompson, SOLEIL
Clemens Vonrhein, Global Phasing Ltd.
Sandro Waltersperger, SLS
Manfred Weiss, BESSY


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Meitian Wang
Swiss Light Source at Paul Scherrer Institut
CH-5232 Villigen PSI - http://www.psi.ch/sls/
Phone: +41 56 310 4175
Fax: +41 56 310 5292 



Re: [ccp4bb] electron density peak volume

2012-07-06 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Tim,

a possible way of thinking about this is:

say you have N (=nx*ny*nz) nodes of the grid on which you sampled the map,
and the unit cell volume is Vcell, and you are looking at a blob identified
at some level. Then the volume of this blob can be defined as Vblob =
np*Vcell/N, where np is the number of grid nodes inside the blob.

Pavel

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Tim Gruene  wrote:

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> Dear Alan,
>
> do you think the notion of 'volume of a peak' makes sense? You are
> probably asking for the number of connected pixels around a local
> maximum above a certain threshold - again, not sure whether this is a
> useful concept and I am not aware of a program doing this calculation.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> On 07/06/12 15:40, Andrew Pannifer wrote:
> > Hi, Is there a way to ask peakmax to output the volume of each
> > electron density peak that it detects (or is there a reasonably
> > straightforward way to do this via an alternative command line
> > runnable approach?) Cheers, Alan
> >
>
> - --
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> Dr Tim Gruene
> Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
> Tammannstr. 4
> D-37077 Goettingen
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Re: [ccp4bb] electron density peak volume

2012-07-06 Thread Tim Gruene
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Hi Pavel,

that's probably how I'd program it, too. Still I am not aware of an
existing (command line) program which does that, and I am not sure of
its benefit from a users point of view. I can imagine that many
programs internally make use of the 'blob' volume for various purposes.

Cheers,
Tim

On 07/06/12 17:01, Pavel Afonine wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> a possible way of thinking about this is:
> 
> say you have N (=nx*ny*nz) nodes of the grid on which you sampled
> the map, and the unit cell volume is Vcell, and you are looking at
> a blob identified at some level. Then the volume of this blob can
> be defined as Vblob = np*Vcell/N, where np is the number of grid
> nodes inside the blob.
> 
> Pavel
> 
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Tim Gruene
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Alan,
> 
> do you think the notion of 'volume of a peak' makes sense? You are 
> probably asking for the number of connected pixels around a local 
> maximum above a certain threshold - again, not sure whether this is
> a useful concept and I am not aware of a program doing this
> calculation.
> 
> Regards, Tim
> 
> On 07/06/12 15:40, Andrew Pannifer wrote:
 Hi, Is there a way to ask peakmax to output the volume of
 each electron density peak that it detects (or is there a
 reasonably straightforward way to do this via an alternative
 command line runnable approach?) Cheers, Alan
 
> 
>> 
> 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with CCP4MG

2012-07-06 Thread Stuart McNicholas

On 6 Jul 2012, at 15:10, Regina Kettering wrote:

> The model is a theoretical model of Q766C3 (nepenthesin 1), link to the 
> download below:
> 
> http://swissmodel.expasy.org/?pid=smf02&source=repository&tid=file_model&mid=7d1184184e0086123cd94070ab861eb2_1
> 

This is a very silly bug in CCP4MG, you need to delete the line:

REMARK   1 http://swissmodel.expasy.org/repository/license.html or send an email

in the PDB (line 24 when I downloaded). I will fix this asap.

> For the virus problem, it gives me the automatic "You have downloaded a file 
> from the internet. It could be a virus" error, but then gives me two further 
> errors when installing and automatically quarantines the files.  The program 
> does not work because it then cannot find the two quarantined files.  The 
> computer contains two sets of virus protection software: Symantic and Windows 
> Defender.

Then you need to go into your anti-virus setup and "unquarantine" or restore 
them. 

For windows defender see:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Remove-or-restore-items-quarantined-by-Windows-Defender

For symantic:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?docid=v6200305_NIS_Retail_2012_en_us&product=home&pvid=f-home&version=1&lg=english&ct=us

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Stuart

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density peak volume

2012-07-06 Thread Ed Pozharski

On 07/06/2012 09:40 AM, Andrew Pannifer wrote:


Hi,

Is there a way to ask peakmax to output the volume of each electron 
density peak that it detects (or is there a reasonably straightforward 
way to do this via an alternative command line runnable approach?)


Cheers,

Alan



There might be a way to do it using some of the brilliant USF tools.  A 
somewhat convoluted workaround would be to cut the piece of the map 
surrounding the peak, then converting it to mask using MAPMAN with 
cutoff of your choosing.  You can then use MAMA's island_erase method to 
identify the main blob of density and count the nodes to get the volume.


You may want to look into MAPMAN peek command too.  It allows both 
getting the interpolated density value at the peak position and integral 
density over volume surrounding it.  If you make certain assumptions 
about the peak shape (gaussian?) you can deduce the peak "volume" from 
these two numbers.


Cheers,

Ed.


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