Re: [ccp4bb] protein turns brown

2010-09-24 Thread Andy Torelli

Hi Sandy,

	If your protein is soluble (i.e. we're not dealing with brown 
precipitate), it is possible that the brown color is due to a bound 
iron-sulfur cluster.  In this case, your protein was always brown, but 
you couldn't see the color when it was very dilute.  As a quick test, 
you could take a UV-Vis spectra.  4Fe-4S clusters have a peak around 410 
nm and are distinctly brown in color.


-Andy


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On 9/24/2010 4:34 AM, sandeep wrote:

Dear all,

I have purified protein from E.coli. expression system. the protein has
been purified with three independant columns. Now during concentration
step using amicon, the protein shows brown colour. what could be the reason.

best regards and Thanks,
sandy
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Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo Vs crystal size

2010-04-15 Thread Andy Torelli
You've gotten some helpful replies already.  I have found the following 
reference to be helpful in understanding some of the physics behind 
damage incurred during the crystal cooling process and a general 
strategy to help avoid it.  It expands upon what's already been said - 
that larger crystals are more prone to distress during cooling.  This 
and other papers from the same group contain useful information and advice.


A General Method for Hyperquenching Protein Crystals
Matthew Warkentin and Robert E. Thorne
Struct Funct Genomics. 2007 December ; 8(4): 141–144. 
doi:10.1007/s10969-007-9029-0.


Best,
-Andy


On 4/15/2010 4:48 AM, Mark J. van Raaij wrote:

and don't forget to check diffraction without freezing.
Mark

On 15 April 2010 10:37, Anastassis Perrakis a.perra...@nki.nl
mailto:a.perra...@nki.nl wrote:

Hi -

My two cents:

First, you say:


I assume the bigger crystal might have lot of solvent which
prevent for high resolution. If it is true what could be the
best way to dehydrate crystal without affecting crystal quality?




I think this assumption is confusing. If the crystals were grown in
the same drop/condition, they have identical percentage solvent
content. Thus, you do not want to look at dehydration, the
'percentage solvent content' is fine. What you want to look at is
the mechanics of vitrification. Big crystals, are simply hard to
freeze: because of their volume they cannot be vitrified as rapidly
and uniformly as smaller crystals. I will not be surprised if there
are papers that quantify that, but what I am saying here is only
from experience and adding a 'logical' explanation to that experience.

Thus, I would simply stay with the smaller crystals (I have a
feeling that you 'small' crystals are 'big' for many other people)
and be happy they diffract to 2.5 A (is that SR or RA?)

A.


On Apr 15, 2010, at 3:16, syed ibrahim wrote:



Dear Jurgen and Ho Leung

To add few more point regarding my question:

1. Crystal was first  frozen in LN2 and then transfered to cryo
stream (in presence of LN2 in vial)
2. Anealing did not help (both short time and long time) -
perhaps the crystal dies.
3.  Spots are clear to available resolution (is:  6-7A). In the
high resolution region there is no spot but looks like smear in
the whole area.
4. The crystal was approximately 1.0mm length and 0.4mm dia. I
mounted on 0.5mm loop. So the liquid around the crystal was very
less. I deliberately avoided more solvent in the loop to help
diffraction.

Thanks

Syed



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From: Jürgen Bosch jubo...@jhsph.edu mailto:jubo...@jhsph.edu
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo Vs crystal size
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 3:46 AM

There are a couple of additional factors not taken into
account here.

1. LN2 versus frozen in strem or propane etc
2. did you try to flash anneal the larger crystal
3. smeary diffraction from the big crystal or not ?
4. how much residual solvent was around your crystal when
freezing ?

In general smaller crystals are anyhow better in my hands.

Jürgen

On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:36 PM, syed ibrahim wrote:


Hi All

I had two crystals grown in same well, one is small and other
is 10 times bigger. I treated both crystal in same cryo and
same time. The smaller one diffracted to 2.5A and the bigger
one to 6-7A. I was expecting the bigger one to diffract high
resolution.

I assume the bigger crystal might have lot of solvent which
prevent for high resolution. If it is true what could be the
best way to dehydrate crystal without affecting crystal quality?

Thank you

Syed

PS: Taken care of less solvent to be present in the loop





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Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization of lysine and arginine rich proteins

2009-11-02 Thread Andy Torelli

Umar,

	Check out: Czepas et al. The impact of Lys--Arg surface mutations on 
the crystallization of of the globular domain of RhoGDI, Acta D (2004) 
60 275-280.  They point out that sulfate ions can help mediate contacts 
between arginine residues from neighboring molecules in the crystal.


	You may have already considered the surface entropy server 
(http://nihserver.mbi.ucla.edu/SER/) to help identify any specific 
stretches of amino acids that could be mutated to reduce entropy and 
possibly promote crystallization.  Maybe there are a couple regions of 
your sequence that are flagged as particularly unfavorable in terms of 
their predicted entropy contribution.  There is evidence that lysine is 
more of a problem in this respect as compared to arginine (Derewenda et 
al. Acta D (2006) 62 116-124).


Good luck,
-Andy

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On 11/2/2009 8:39 AM, Jan Rash wrote:

Dear All,

 I have a question regarding the crystallization of lysine and arginine 
rich protein around 13%. So far our attempts to crystallize this protein 
have not been successful although the secondary structure predictions, 
CD spectroscopy measurements clearly show that this protein is folded. I 
presume that these lysine and arginine are the sources of the local 
flexibility in the protein even though the protein is globular overall. 
Moreover, my attempts to crystallize the limited proteolysis fragments 
also did not achieve crystals. I have also tried the crystallization 
with its binding partners and could not succeed.  I think any compound 
that binds to the lysine/arginine side chains might affect the 
crystallization process thereby reducing the internal flexibility of 
protein.  Can anybody suggest some effective strategy for the 
crystallization?


 


Thanks

Umar

 



[ccp4bb] [SUMMARY] X-ray diffraction image -- .jpg

2009-10-24 Thread Andy Torelli

To the CCP4 community.

	As always, I have received a number of very helpful suggestions to my 
query.  I am grateful to all those who replied.  My best summary of the 
suggestions is below.


Best Regards,
-Andy Torelli

	A notable consideration (provided by Jim Pflugrath) is that A JPEG has 
fixed colors for the pixel values.  A diffraction image has to use a 
viewer to convert the pixel values (counts) to a color.  One problem 
with just using a converter to jpeg is how to convert intensities to 
color (i.e. computer display values).
	Additionally, Morten Kjeldgaard noted that opening saved images 
(particularly TIFF images) in Photoshop will require Image - 
Adjustments - Equalize to see anything other than black.


Specific program suggestions:

 - diff2jpeg - a CCP4 utility within the DiffractionImage library for 
handling different diffraction file formats.  See: 
http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/DiffractionImage.html


 - idiffdisp - a CCP4 utility.  See also CCP4wiki page: 
http://ccp4wiki.org/~ccp4wiki/wiki/index.php?title=CCP4i_diffraction_image_display_%28idiffdisp%29


 - ipdisp - a CCP4 utility.  See also:
http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/ipdisp.html

 - Mosflm has capability including control over gr[e|a]yscale.  See FAQ 
section for details.


 - ADXV - reportedly easy to install and can save in TIFF format.  Also 
will save image to match coloring in view window: 
http://www.scripps.edu/~arvai/adxv.html


 - Marview - can be installed using Linux_glibc-2.3.3 (RedHat9, WS3, 
etc).  Just download it, unpack (gunzip marView.gz).  See also 
http://www.marresearch.com/download.html#Utilities

# chmod a+x marView

a) to run the program from terminal
# ./marView or

# kate .bashrc:
alias marview=/home/user/Desktop/marview/./marView

	b) alternativelly, place the program in the Desktop and just 
double-click to start it up.


 - demo version of d*TREK is freely available from Rigaku and has 
dtdisplay for this purpose.


 - Labelit - see http://cci.lbl.gov/labelit
- labelit.png filename output.png [-large]

 - ImageMagick - part of most linux distros.  See also James Holton's 
helpful and detailed reply to my original post.
	- convert -depth 16 -type Grayscale -colorspace GRAY -endian LSB -size 
3072x3072+512 GRAY:test_0_001.img test_0_001.jpg


[ccp4bb] X-ray diffraction image -- .jpg

2009-10-21 Thread Andy Torelli

Hi everyone,

	Is there a free utility that can convert an x-ray diffraction image 
collected with an ADSC detector to a standard image file format e.g. 
.jpg, png, etc.?  I'm looking for something more elegant than a 
screen-capture that will yield a higher (graphics) resolution image. 
I'm sure someone must have done this, but I haven't been able to find one.



Thanks,
Andy Torelli


Re: [ccp4bb] stacked thin plates

2009-09-03 Thread Andy Torelli

James,

	I think the standard suggestions apply.  Try to tweak your 
crystallization conditions to get a single crystal (i.e. not a series of 
stacked plates).  PEG 400 can be a good substitute for MPD, but you 
could also try additive screens as well as co-crystallization with 
products, cofactors, substrates, analogs, etc. to alter the 
crystallization.


	Alternatively, seek out a beamline that offers X-ray beam diameters of 
5-20 microns.  You can survey your entire crystal(s) for very small 
diffracting volumes that might only contain a single plate.  You may get 
lucky.


-Andy

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On 9/3/2009 8:40 AM, james09 pruza wrote:

Deal all,
 
Sorry for the non-ccp4 query once again.
I need suggestions regarding the improvement in crystal quality. I have 
crystallized a protein in MPD. The crystals grow like a thin plates and 
the plates are stacked together. So, the mosaicity is very high and also 
indexing is difficult even at 2 angstrom data set.

All suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
James.


Re: [ccp4bb] problems of co-crystallization of protein-DNA complex

2009-08-13 Thread Andy Torelli

Ru Heng,

 It is commonly helpful to combine your protein and DNA under 
dilute conditions and then concentrate the complex.  Combining 
concentrated DNA and protein together has a very good chance of 
precipitating in my experience.  I completely agree that trying 
different buffer conditions is a good idea (try to find one that keeps 
your protein happy as evaluated by DLS).


Good luck,
-Andy

On 8/13/2009 8:23 AM, Raji Edayathumangalam wrote:

Couple of things, Ru Heng.

1. What buffer conditions is your protein in? Is it similar to the 
buffer you describe as using to dissolve your DNA in? In general, you 
can even get away with dissolving and annealing the oligos in just Tris etc.
2. Play with buffer conditions, particularly NaCl concentrations. 
3. Tweak the protein and DNA ratios. For nucleosomes, we always got 
white precipitate if we did not always titrate the DNA to protein ratios 
for every individual prep,


I believe optimization of the above parameters would help with the white 
precipitate formation.


Hope that helps.
Raji

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Harvard Medical School
Brandeis University




On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:56 AM, ruheng wrote:

 
Dear CCP4bbers,
 
I am now working on a DNA binding protein and the purity of the 
protein is quite good, however the results of DLS showed that the 
protein aggregates terribly in quite a lot of different buffer 
conditions I tried and still no crystals can be obtained. So I am 
going to co-crystallize the protein in complex with DNA. I synthesized 
the oligonucleotides varying different numbers of basepairs to 
determine the optimal length which can bound to my protein by EMSA. I 
dissoved the oligos in the buffer containing 50mM Tris-HCl, 100mM 
NaCl, 10mM MgCl2 and 1mM DTT, pH 7.9 and then annealed the DNA into 
the double stranded form at a final concentration of 50uM. When I 
performed the EMSA experiment, I mixed the purified protein with the 
dsDNA at the molecular ratio approximately 1:1, but white precipitate 
was generated as I mixed them.
 
Does anyone have this kinds of experience when working on DNA binding 
proteins and co-crystallizing the protein-DNA complex? Any suggestions 
from yours will be appreciated.
 
Thank you all.
 
 
Ru Heng
 
 



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Re: [ccp4bb] {Spam?} quick purification?

2009-08-11 Thread Andy Torelli

Mark,

	I agree with Artem in that you may find significant differences in the 
purity of eluants from the 'high fidelity' IMAC resins (I use pre-packed 
HisTrap columns).


	You may also want to have a look at the following reference for a 
comparison of a variety of different affinity tags in terms of purity, 
yield, cost, etc.


Comparison of affinity tags for protein purification. Protein Expr 
Purif. 2005 May;41(1):98-105.


-Andy


On 8/10/2009 11:56 PM, Artem Evdokimov wrote:

Hi,

Since you're considering a serious undertaking, it would be good to know
whether your protein is decently expressed and reasonably characterized in
its native state - before advising you on the process :)

If your protein is normally expressed well, is soluble, and not aggregated -
there's going to be little to no difference between the results of major
methods used for primary affinity capture. If your protein is not very
abundant in the lysate, then higher fidelity methods may give you better
purity - in this case StrepII is somewhat better than GST. You can always
try the good old Biotin tag - this will however require that your E. coli
carry excess of BirA (typically supplied from a separate plasmid) as normal
biotinylation levels in most E. coli strains are fairly low. 


With 40+ mutants you can expect a certain amount of attrition - some of the
mutants will not express well and some will not purify well.

In general there's nothing wrong with single-step IMAC provided that you can
work out reasonable purification conditions in advance and can assume that
most of your 40+ mutants behave reasonably well (and close to the test
case). For outlier mutants there will undoubtedly be issues with
purification however primary capture method is not likely to fix them since
it did not cause them in the first place.

For abundant proteins - if you use a 'high fidelity' IMAC resin such as
His-SELECT or Talon and if your protein of interest is present (in the
lysate) in reasonable quantity then you can expect the purity of your
single-step product to be compatible between GST and IMAC purification.
StrepII tag is of course a good choice as well.

Regards,

Artem

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the sand were stone 
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-Original Message-

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark
Collins
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:37 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] {Spam?} quick purification?

Hi All

A little off topic, but I am thinking about expressing and purifying 40+ 
mutants, for an assay, at maybe 1mg total protein each.  I'd like the 
purification to be quick and easy (ie. one step) but cleaner than just a 
6his-tag purification.


Currently, my options are either GST, a longer his tag or a strep-tag.

Any thoughts on the comparison between GST and strep and Ni purifications 
would be much appreciated.  OR are there any other (better) high affinity 
purifications, I've missed, excluding expense Ab resins.


Thanks,
Mark Collins



Re: [ccp4bb] off topic

2009-06-19 Thread Andy Torelli

Hi Kien,

	You may also want to try to wash your column with elution buffer 
(without reducing agents),  equilibrate it with binding buffer (plus 
reducing agents) and then bind your protein.


	In the case of HisTrap columns (a pre-packed, Ni(II) resin column), 
this procedure is recommended if you wish to use reducing agents.  I was 
told by tech. support that washing with high imidazole elution buffer 
first (without reducing agents) helps wash out weakly-bound nickel ions 
that are left over from the charging process.  These ions, which are not 
fully chelated to the resin, are more susceptible to the reducing agents 
and may undergo the process described by Guenter to result in your brown 
color.


Good luck,
-Andy

On 6/19/2009 9:19 AM, Guenter Fritz wrote:

Hi Kien,

DTT coordinates very nicely the Ni(II) on the column. However the 
DTT-Ni(II) is prone to oxidation which gives almost immediately Ni(III) 
which causes the brownish colour. As Jürgen pointed out TCEP chelates 
only weakly Ni(II) and is a better choice. Also beta-mercapto-ethanol 
does not bind Ni(II) so tightly, i.e causes less trouble. Regarding your 
4 Cys residues, there might be some redox going on, but not necessarily. 
The Cys SGs are often inside in an hydrophobic environment.
You can do  easily the Ni(II) column WITHOUT any reductant in the 
buffer. Simply add DTT after the Ni(II) column.
You can also check  the oxidation state of your Cys by good old 
biochemistry 
(http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Thiols_and_disulfides). 



In order to avoid oxidation of Cys or Met on the Ni(II) column, strip 
your Ni(II) and charge your IMAC column with Zn(II)  instead of Ni(II). 
Zn(II) is redox inert.


HTH
Guenter

Try TCEP as it does not interfere with the NiNTA resin whereas DTT does.
But why do you care if your column is brown or not - can you elute 
your protein ?

Are there other metal ions e.g. iron which bind to your resin perhaps ?

Jürgen

On 19 Jun 2009, at 02:25, Kn Ly wrote:


Hello everyone,

I am trying to purify a 13 KDa membrane protein using Ni NTA. The 
protein is
solubilised in Triton X 100, 20 mM phosphate buffer, 150 mM NaCl and 
binds

very well to the column. However, it also turns the column brownish.
The protein contains 4 cysteine residues so I suspect that this causes
cross-linking with other proteins and thus brownish precipitation on the
column. So I included 5 mM beta-ME in my buffer to prevent disulfide 
bond
formation but this doesn't help. I tried 1 mM DTT and this ruined the 
column.

Help!! Is there anyway to prevent this brownish problem?

Thanks a lot in advance
Kien


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Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
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Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
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[ccp4bb] Offtopic: Alscript question

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Torelli

To the CCP4bb,

	I have an off-topic request regarding Alscript, a program used to make 
postscript images from sequence alignments.  Does anyone have an 
Alscript script file (.als) that successfully implements the 
RELATIVE_TO and mask ILLEGAL commands that I could look at?  I 
haven't been able to get these commands to work and I haven't found a 
fix from the documentation, CCP4wiki or Google searches.


	I would be grateful to anyone with an example script using these 
commands they could share.  If so, please spare the bulletin board and 
respond to me directly.


Best Regards,
-Andy Torelli


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Re: [ccp4bb] SUMMARY:vSystem virtual machine recommendation for crystallography?

2009-05-12 Thread Andy Torelli

Hello Everyone,

	Thank you for the replies to my questions regarding system virtual 
machine software.  I have organized the replies into subheadings and 
summarized the comments below. The original question was:


I would like to install a system virtual machine to run Ubuntu 
Linux as a guest OS on a 32-bit Vista laptop.  The idea is to allow 
occasional use of crystallographic refinement programs while I'm away 
from lab. The laptop has an Intel Core 2 duo processor (2.0 GHz) and 3 
GB RAM.
There are popular software programs available (VMWare, Parallels, 
VirtualBox, etc.), but is anyone aware of any considerations that would 
make one better for the above purposes?  For example, will one offer 
easy control over distributing hardware resources to prevent crippling 
Vista while running refinement within the guest Linux?


The organized/summarized responses:
Individual user experiences:
	- VirtualBox 2.2.2 to run Ubuntu 9.04 (guest) on WinXP 32-bit (native). 
 Runs well with 512 Mbyte assigned memory with 64 Mbyte assigned 
graphics memory (dual core 2.4 GHz machine with 2 Gbyte total RAM).

- VMWare used for various guest OSs.  Found to work well.
- Parallels useful for Linux as a guest; VMWare for Windows as a guest.
	- Qemu/Kvm and VirtualBox work well with Linux as a guest OS.  Kvm 
found to be troublesome for Windows as a guest OS.

- VMWare server 2 running CentOS (guest) on Linux (native)

Software considerations:
- VirtualBox is free
	- VirtualBox supports hardware virtualization, but it is off by 
default.  Some others do as well.

- Some distributions of VMWare are free
	- VMWare reported to be stable, has wide user-base, good documentation 
and can run dual-CPU


General considerations:
	- No accelerated graphics performance (i.e. Coot/Pymol run slowly at 
~15 frames/sec. with non-native graphics.
	- Previous threads recommend running graphics in native OS to take full 
advantage of hardware acceleration
	- Recommended to set up shared folders to transfer files between OSs to 
facilitate using native graphics software/hardware.
	- You have to reboot the machine to change the memory configuration, 
but people agreed the software is generally easy to configure for 
resource allocation.


Thanks again to all who replied,
-Andy Torelli

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[ccp4bb] System virtual machine recommendation for crystallography?

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Torelli

Hello everyone,

	I would like to install a system virtual machine to run Ubuntu Linux as 
a guest OS on a 32-bit Vista laptop.  The idea is to allow occasional 
use of crystallographic refinement programs while I'm away from lab. 
The laptop has an Intel Core 2 duo processor (2.0 GHz) and 3 GB RAM.
	There are popular software programs available (VMWare, Parallels, 
VirtualBox, etc.), but is anyone aware of any considerations that would 
make one better for the above purposes?  For example, will one offer 
easy control over distributing hardware resources to prevent crippling 
Vista while running refinement within the guest Linux?  My Google and 
CCP4bb searches have not turned up anything so far.


Thanks in advance for any advice or reference material.  I will post a 
summary e-mail as well.


Best Regards,
-Andy Torelli

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Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Andy Torelli

Hi Liew,

	There have already been some very good suggestions.  I agree with Tim 
Gruene that a great starting point is to test the diffraction properties 
of your crystal at room temperature.  This can serve as a baseline for 
comparing/evaluating cryoprotecting agents and methods.


	You can also test your potential cryoprotection solutions to see if 
they freeze clear or even take a few X-ray snapshots of them to confirm 
there are no ice rings.


	There are lots of publications that can be helpful.  One very helpful 
reference is:

Garman, E.F. and Doublie, S.
Cryocooling of Macromolecular Crystals: Optimisation Methods.
Methods in Enzymology (2003) 368, 188-216.

	Be aware that, as mentioned previously, the method for freezing can 
make a difference (e.g. freezing in cold-stream vs. plunging in 
nitrogen).  An obvious difference is different cooling rates (you can 
find references for this) or less obvious reasons, for example 
differences in dehydration that occur during longer/shorter transfer 
through air from drop to cold-source for either method.


Finally, you can check out the database for cryoprotecting solutions:
http://idb.exst.jaxa.jp/db_data/protein/search-e.php

Good luck,
-Andy

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On 4/24/2009 10:44 AM, Liew Chong Wai wrote:

Hi all
 
Thanks for your precious suggestions and ideas.
The crystallization buffer condition is 0.1M BIS-TRIS pH 5.5, 0.2M 
MgCl.6H2O, 35% PEG3350
Now, my crystal seem ok in 20% ethylene glycol, but only after a couple 
minutes of dehydration at room temperature. For sure, i will try other 
cryoprotectant that was suggested here.

I just wondering why MPD kills the crystal.
Many thanks
 
*LIEW*
 

 







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[ccp4bb] Scaling of intensities

2008-11-07 Thread Andy Torelli

To the CCP4 community,

	I have a question about ImportScaled.  When I select both the Keep the 
input intensities in the output file and the Run Truncate... options, 
the output MTZ file contains IMEAN and SIGIMEAN values that are 
different from the input intensity file.  Specifically, the values are 
multiplied by 1/100th of the SCALE term reported in the log file that is 
calculated from the Wilson Plot during the Truncate procedure.  However, 
when the Run Truncate... option is not selected, the output MTZ file 
contains unaltered IMEAN and SIGIMEAN values that match the input file.


	After reading the recent CCP4 threads regarding Truncate as well as the 
program documentation, I still have a few questions:


1.  My understanding is that this scaling of the intensities is done to 
bring them to an (approximate) absolute scale and therefore can only be 
performed when Truncate is run simultaneously (because the Wilson Plot 
is necessary to calculate the appropriate scale factor).  However, why 
is the scaling equal to 1/100 of the SCALE term from the Wilson Plot 
(i.e. why not exactly the SCALE term)?


2.  For programs that use intensities as a target for refinement, is it 
necessary to have the intensities scaled in this way or is it also valid 
to use the unaltered (scaled only) intensities?


3.  On a related note, when is it best to refine against intensities vs. 
amplitudes?  I have not been able to find recent literature that 
pertains to macromolecular crystallography and the documentation I've 
looked at for popular refinement programs that offer both targets do not 
provide guidelines as far as I can tell.  If anyone could recommend some 
literature, I would really appreciate it.


Thank you very much for your time,
Best Regards,
-Andy Torelli

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Andrew T. Torelli Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Associate
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
Cornell University
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