Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Hi Domen, I have been using HP Probook 440 G5 (i7 and Nvidia MX150) for two years. Generally, I was not impressed by laptops with i7 processors - they simply can't dissipate heat generated by CPU and throttle frequency down to 0.8-1.5 GHz - the way MacBooks Pro with i9 processors did. The same issue applies to mobile GPUs - they are OK to test some ideas or prepare MD systems but are not powerful enough for production runs. Dualboot worked nicely, everything worked fine on Ubuntu 18.04, including GPU simulations. Since last year I switched to Dell Latitude 5400 with i5 and built-in video. It is a light, sturdy laptop with a good battery and enough computing power for simple tasks, e.g.: manual inspection in coot, Table 1 generation, preparation of MD system. I use it in dualboot mode for Win10 and Xubuntu 20.04 LTS. Dual boot setup was a bit tricky due to BitLocker and SafeBoot but doable. I also installed Windows 7 under Xubuntu in virtual machine (qemu) for Office365 and it worked nice and smoothly. For computationally demanding tasks, I copy files from laptop to laboratory server (equipped with Xeon, ECC memory and RTX2080) over SSH and submit jobs remotely. Hope it helps! Kind regards, Evgenii ср, 13 февр. 2019 г. в 15:09, Domen Zafred : > Dear CCP4 community, > > My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would > ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation > is common trouble in our community. > Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, > docking, etc. *in silico *simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a > thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are > there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 > processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still > win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? > > Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) > are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may > be kindly avoided :) > > Thanks a lot, > > Domen > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > -- Evgenii Osipov Laboratory for Biocrystallography, Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, KU Leuven O&N2 To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Hello Domen, If you are based in Europe, I recommend checking out Tuxedo laptops, which you can customize based on budget and preference - I've recently got a Ryzen 3950x with a RTX2070 to run heavy computational work and it does the job quite well. The downside is that their customer support is not that great. You can also get something similar in the us, but the name escapes me at the moment. On Thu, Sep 2, 2021, 2:38 PM Domen Zafred wrote: > Hi all, > just wanted to share with you that I purchased Dell Precision 5530 back > then and it has been working like a dream for more than 2 years now. > Flawlessly running all kind of software in ubuntu, and windows (when > needed) as a dual boot or just virtually for easier tasks like Office or > similar. > Cheers > Domen > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:10 AM Domen Zafred > wrote: > >> Dear Tristan & Jon, >> thanks very much for sharing your experience! >> Kind regards, >> Domen >> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jon Agirre wrote: >> >>> Dear Domen, >>> >>> I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad p72 for both MX and cryoEM work last year and >>> I am generally happy. The Xeon CPUs do get hot from time to time when >>> governor is set to performance, but the thing is well ventilated and not >>> too noisy. >>> >>> The Quadro GPU I have is, performance-wise, equivalent to a GTX 1070, so >>> good enough for Cuda too. Works well in Ubuntu as soon as you get rid of >>> the nouveau driver. >>> >>> Also, if you find a 17” laptop too big for you, there are smaller >>> alternatives in the same line. >>> >>> Am no Lenovo fan, but I find this machine offers similar or better >>> performance than that of a gaming laptop, but without all the flashy skully >>> flamboyances. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Jon >>> >>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 14:09, Domen Zafred >>> wrote: >>> Dear CCP4 community, My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation is common trouble in our community. Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, docking, etc. *in silico *simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may be kindly avoided :) Thanks a lot, Domen -- To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>> -- >>> Dr Jon Agirre >>> Royal Society University Research Fellow >>> York Structural Biology Laboratory / Department of Chemistry >>> University of York, Heslington, YO10 5DD, York, UK >>> http://www.york.ac.uk/chemistry/research/ysbl/people/staff/jagirre/ >>> Office: /B/K/065 Phone: +44 (0) 1904 32 8252 >>> Twitter: @alwaysonthejazz >>> >> > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Hi all, just wanted to share with you that I purchased Dell Precision 5530 back then and it has been working like a dream for more than 2 years now. Flawlessly running all kind of software in ubuntu, and windows (when needed) as a dual boot or just virtually for easier tasks like Office or similar. Cheers Domen On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:10 AM Domen Zafred wrote: > Dear Tristan & Jon, > thanks very much for sharing your experience! > Kind regards, > Domen > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jon Agirre wrote: > >> Dear Domen, >> >> I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad p72 for both MX and cryoEM work last year and >> I am generally happy. The Xeon CPUs do get hot from time to time when >> governor is set to performance, but the thing is well ventilated and not >> too noisy. >> >> The Quadro GPU I have is, performance-wise, equivalent to a GTX 1070, so >> good enough for Cuda too. Works well in Ubuntu as soon as you get rid of >> the nouveau driver. >> >> Also, if you find a 17” laptop too big for you, there are smaller >> alternatives in the same line. >> >> Am no Lenovo fan, but I find this machine offers similar or better >> performance than that of a gaming laptop, but without all the flashy skully >> flamboyances. >> >> Best wishes, >> Jon >> >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 14:09, Domen Zafred wrote: >> >>> Dear CCP4 community, >>> >>> My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would >>> ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation >>> is common trouble in our community. >>> Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, >>> docking, etc. *in silico *simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a >>> thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are >>> there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 >>> processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still >>> win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? >>> >>> Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) >>> are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may >>> be kindly avoided :) >>> >>> Thanks a lot, >>> >>> Domen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>> >> -- >> Dr Jon Agirre >> Royal Society University Research Fellow >> York Structural Biology Laboratory / Department of Chemistry >> University of York, Heslington, YO10 5DD, York, UK >> http://www.york.ac.uk/chemistry/research/ysbl/people/staff/jagirre/ >> Office: /B/K/065 Phone: +44 (0) 1904 32 8252 >> Twitter: @alwaysonthejazz >> > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Dear Domem, I've been using a Dell latitude for the past X years. Very happy with it, it came with Ubuntu pre installed. I've been considering replacing it in the near future and have found that Dell still supply this range with pre installed Ubuntu. It's not listed on their web site though, you need to talk to one their advisors. All the best, Alun Dr Alun R. Coker Associate Professor University College London Division of Medicine The Rayne Building 5 University Street London WC1E 6JF Tel: 020 7679 6703 Ext 46703 Web: www.ucl.ac.uk/pxmed<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/pxmed> From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Domen Zafred Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 10:10:50 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology Dear Tristan & Jon, thanks very much for sharing your experience! Kind regards, Domen On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jon Agirre mailto:jon.agi...@york.ac.uk>> wrote: Dear Domen, I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad p72 for both MX and cryoEM work last year and I am generally happy. The Xeon CPUs do get hot from time to time when governor is set to performance, but the thing is well ventilated and not too noisy. The Quadro GPU I have is, performance-wise, equivalent to a GTX 1070, so good enough for Cuda too. Works well in Ubuntu as soon as you get rid of the nouveau driver. Also, if you find a 17” laptop too big for you, there are smaller alternatives in the same line. Am no Lenovo fan, but I find this machine offers similar or better performance than that of a gaming laptop, but without all the flashy skully flamboyances. Best wishes, Jon On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 14:09, Domen Zafred mailto:zafred.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear CCP4 community, My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation is common trouble in our community. Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, docking, etc. in silico simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may be kindly avoided :) Thanks a lot, Domen To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 -- Dr Jon Agirre Royal Society University Research Fellow York Structural Biology Laboratory / Department of Chemistry University of York, Heslington, YO10 5DD, York, UK http://www.york.ac.uk/chemistry/research/ysbl/people/staff/jagirre/ Office: /B/K/065 Phone: +44 (0) 1904 32 8252 Twitter: @alwaysonthejazz To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Dear Tristan & Jon, thanks very much for sharing your experience! Kind regards, Domen On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:22 PM Jon Agirre wrote: > Dear Domen, > > I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad p72 for both MX and cryoEM work last year and I > am generally happy. The Xeon CPUs do get hot from time to time when > governor is set to performance, but the thing is well ventilated and not > too noisy. > > The Quadro GPU I have is, performance-wise, equivalent to a GTX 1070, so > good enough for Cuda too. Works well in Ubuntu as soon as you get rid of > the nouveau driver. > > Also, if you find a 17” laptop too big for you, there are smaller > alternatives in the same line. > > Am no Lenovo fan, but I find this machine offers similar or better > performance than that of a gaming laptop, but without all the flashy skully > flamboyances. > > Best wishes, > Jon > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 14:09, Domen Zafred wrote: > >> Dear CCP4 community, >> >> My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would >> ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation >> is common trouble in our community. >> Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, >> docking, etc. *in silico *simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a >> thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are >> there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 >> processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still >> win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? >> >> Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) >> are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may >> be kindly avoided :) >> >> Thanks a lot, >> >> Domen >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> > -- > Dr Jon Agirre > Royal Society University Research Fellow > York Structural Biology Laboratory / Department of Chemistry > University of York, Heslington, YO10 5DD, York, UK > http://www.york.ac.uk/chemistry/research/ysbl/people/staff/jagirre/ > Office: /B/K/065 Phone: +44 (0) 1904 32 8252 > Twitter: @alwaysonthejazz > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Dear Domen, I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad p72 for both MX and cryoEM work last year and I am generally happy. The Xeon CPUs do get hot from time to time when governor is set to performance, but the thing is well ventilated and not too noisy. The Quadro GPU I have is, performance-wise, equivalent to a GTX 1070, so good enough for Cuda too. Works well in Ubuntu as soon as you get rid of the nouveau driver. Also, if you find a 17” laptop too big for you, there are smaller alternatives in the same line. Am no Lenovo fan, but I find this machine offers similar or better performance than that of a gaming laptop, but without all the flashy skully flamboyances. Best wishes, Jon On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 14:09, Domen Zafred wrote: > Dear CCP4 community, > > My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would > ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation > is common trouble in our community. > Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, > docking, etc. *in silico *simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a > thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are > there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 > processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still > win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? > > Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) > are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may > be kindly avoided :) > > Thanks a lot, > > Domen > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > -- Dr Jon Agirre Royal Society University Research Fellow York Structural Biology Laboratory / Department of Chemistry University of York, Heslington, YO10 5DD, York, UK http://www.york.ac.uk/chemistry/research/ysbl/people/staff/jagirre/ Office: /B/K/065 Phone: +44 (0) 1904 32 8252 Twitter: @alwaysonthejazz To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
Re: [ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
I've been really happy with the performance of my laptop (a 2016-era Asus ROG Strix GL502vs) for MD work. It's a gaming model (GTX 1070 rather than Quadro, and an i7 CPU), but it's solid and seriously powerful. I dual-boot Fedora and Windows (I initially tried with Ubuntu, but its setup crashed in the middle of rearranging the hard drive partitions leaving me too scared to try again). It works nicely enough, other than the occasional issue with kernel updates breaking the Nvidia driver and/or GRUB. On 2019-02-13 14:09, Domen Zafred wrote: Dear CCP4 community, My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation is common trouble in our community. Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, docking, etc. _in silico _simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may be kindly avoided :) Thanks a lot, Domen - To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 [1] Links: -- [1] https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
[ccp4bb] 2019 mid-range & high-end LINUX laptops for structural biology
Dear CCP4 community, My 8-year-old Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu 10 is waving goodbye and I would ask for some help on this bulletin as buying/setting up a new workstation is common trouble in our community. Has anyone recently set up a laptop for structural work with all the MD, docking, etc. *in silico *simulations? Is dual boot Linux/Win still a thing, or do you rather run Windows virtually (which VM software)? Are there any known issues with Nvidia Quadro P series GPUs or Intel i5&i7 processors? Has anyone tried Xeon/ECC on a laptop? Does Ubuntu LTS still win the hearts of non-enthusiasts? Any successfully tested laptops (with names and/or listed configuration) are very welcome and any answers that include fruits or hamburger names may be kindly avoided :) Thanks a lot, Domen To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
