[ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Suda Ravindran
Dear all,

I would like to know the tools/servers/programs that can be used for
structure based superposition of two or more proteins. Please help me
out..!!

Thanks,

-Suda


Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Shilong Fan
normaly you can do it in the pymol. In the main interface, on the left menu, 
there is a:A button, click it, then looking for Aliagn. Then you can do it.

But I prefer to use CCP4, in CCp4 there is a tool : Superpose. You can fine any 
region you want to do superpose.


Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Tim Gruene
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Hello Suda,

You can use
- - lsqkap
- - lsqman
- - tools available in coot
- - pymol
- - probably something like phenix.superpose ...

Cheers, Tim

On 08/18/2011 11:10 AM, Suda Ravindran wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I would like to know the tools/servers/programs that can be used for
 structure based superposition of two or more proteins. Please help me
 out..!!
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Suda
 

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Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Phil Evans
... and in ccp4mg

On 18 Aug 2011, at 10:55, Shilong Fan wrote:

 normaly you can do it in the pymol. In the main interface, on the left menu, 
 there is a:A button, click it, then looking for Aliagn. Then you can do 
 it.
 
 But I prefer to use CCP4, in CCp4 there is a tool : Superpose. You can fine 
 any region you want to do superpose.


Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi Shilong,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Shilong Fan fanshil...@hotmail.com wrote:
 normaly you can do it in the pymol. In the main interface, on the left menu, 
 there is a:A button, click it, then looking for Aliagn. Then you can do 
 it.

 But I prefer to use CCP4, in CCp4 there is a tool : Superpose. You can fine 
 any region you want to do superpose.

PyMOL can indeed perform alignments. It has three different methods
and I'd like to take a second to clear up the differences.

First, the align command (A  Align ) performs a sequence alignment
followed by a few rounds of fitting throw away outliers to improve the
fit. The super command is similar to align, but if you indicate
seq=0 then PyMOL will ignore the sequence. It then uses a dynamic
programming strategy to find the best fit. Last, PyMOL also offers
access to the structure-only cealign method as well.

Of course, if you already know your paired atoms you can just use any
of the 'fit' commands to do the fitting.

Here are links to the PyMOLWiki pages for reference:
  * -- http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align
  * -- http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Super
  * -- http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Cealign
  * -- http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Fit

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

-- Jason

-- 
Jason Vertrees, PhD
PyMOL Product Manager
Schrodinger, LLC

(e) jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com
(o) +1 (603) 374-7120


Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Jim Fairman
You can do structure based sequence alignments using STRAP. It's java based
and free.
On Aug 18, 2011 5:20 AM, Suda Ravindran biobud...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I would like to know the tools/servers/programs that can be used for
 structure based superposition of two or more proteins. Please help me
 out..!!

 Thanks,

 -Suda


Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread James Stroud
Check out Theseus: http://www.theseus3d.org/

You will need a sequence based alignment. This alignment can be provided 
automatically by muscle if you have it installed 
(http://www.drive5.com/muscle/)--this is different from pymol. Pymol seems to 
do an SVD to obtain the alignment. I'm not up to date on what all the other 
programs are using, but I think most use least-squares, so you need to provide 
a sequence based alignment for these programs

Theseus results are always as good or better (subjectively speaking) than 
straight least-squares superposition.

I don't know how the Theseus/muscle combo compares to pymol's use of SVD in 
terms of alignment quality because I haven't compared them directly.

James


On Aug 18, 2011, at 3:10 AM, Suda Ravindran wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I would like to know the tools/servers/programs that can be used for 
 structure based superposition of two or more proteins. Please help me out..!!
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Suda


Re: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition

2011-08-18 Thread Joseph Brock

Hi Suda,

You can do this in Coot by loading the two structures, then using the tool 
Calculate- SSM superpose.

The rmsd value and sequence identity should be reported within your terminal 
window.

Hope that helps.

-Joe

Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:40:32 +0530
From: biobud...@gmail.com
Subject: [ccp4bb] structure based superposition
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Dear all,

I would like to know the tools/servers/programs that can be used for structure 
based superposition of two or more proteins. Please help me out..!!

Thanks,

-Suda