Re: HP-UX 5.1 for the 9836U?

2017-10-14 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Josh,
Sorry don't have it, but I didn't even know there was a 9836 that ran Unix, so 
I learned something again. Does it look like a regular 9836C or is it a 
different form factor?
Marc

On Oct 14, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk  
wrote:

Hi all --

Anyone have media for the 9836U version of HP-UX 5.1?  The copy on hpmuseum.net 
(http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=581) only works on the 9000/310 
and I haven't found much of anything anywhere else.

Thanks as always,

Josh



Re: tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk

On 10/14/2017 6:45 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:

On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 13:00:30 -0700
steve shumaker via cctalk  wrote:


On 10/14/2017 12:39 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

On 10/14/2017 12:22 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:

found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: Tandem
Computers cartridge tapes and docs

Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half inch.
Some are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  All have labels
indicated they are Tandem Computers "Site Update Tapes" with 1988,
89, and 90 dates.  Cursory google produced nothing. Secondary
label on one cartridge would seem to indicate they are used for
software distribution.

I have seven of the cartridges along with several Tandem Non-Stop
manuals.  Manuals have been scanned.

Anyone interested?  Free for shipping from 95006 (call it 5lbs wt)

Steve


  

Hmmm, they just has a Tandem Computers reunion in the Bay area last
month, with over 400 attendees!
If you aren't in touch with anybody from Tandem, I could mention
this to my friend who used to work for them.
He used to have a Non-Stop I in his basement.  He built it from
cast-off boards, some of them blank so he had to stuff them with
chips.

Jon
  

feel free to inquire for me!

I'm a former Tandem Product Manager (of Operating Systems). BTW: Went
to the Re-union ;)

Pictures of the tapes would be helpful. When I get them (or a link to
them) - I'll post it to the Tandem Alumni group to see if anyone can
identify and/or use them.

Cheers,
Lyle


will do!

Steve



Space-Time Productions Z80 board

2017-10-14 Thread Amardeep S Chana via cctalk
Has anyone archived the contents of Joel Owens' Z80 project site that had
documentation and software images for the above mentioned Z80 Master
Controller Board?  His website at joelowens.org has been replaced by some
real estate rental page.

Thanks,
Amardeep


Re: tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 13:00:30 -0700
steve shumaker via cctalk  wrote:

> On 10/14/2017 12:39 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> > On 10/14/2017 12:22 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:  
> >> found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: Tandem 
> >> Computers cartridge tapes and docs
> >>
> >> Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half inch.
> >> Some are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  All have labels 
> >> indicated they are Tandem Computers "Site Update Tapes" with 1988, 
> >> 89, and 90 dates.  Cursory google produced nothing. Secondary
> >> label on one cartridge would seem to indicate they are used for
> >> software distribution.
> >>
> >> I have seven of the cartridges along with several Tandem Non-Stop 
> >> manuals.  Manuals have been scanned.
> >>
> >> Anyone interested?  Free for shipping from 95006 (call it 5lbs wt)
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> > Hmmm, they just has a Tandem Computers reunion in the Bay area last 
> > month, with over 400 attendees!
> > If you aren't in touch with anybody from Tandem, I could mention
> > this to my friend who used to work for them.
> > He used to have a Non-Stop I in his basement.  He built it from 
> > cast-off boards, some of them blank so he had to stuff them with
> > chips.
> >
> > Jon
> >  
> feel free to inquire for me!

I'm a former Tandem Product Manager (of Operating Systems). BTW: Went
to the Re-union ;)

Pictures of the tapes would be helpful. When I get them (or a link to
them) - I'll post it to the Tandem Alumni group to see if anyone can
identify and/or use them.

Cheers,
Lyle
-- 
73  AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"


HP-UX 5.1 for the 9836U?

2017-10-14 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk

Hi all --

Anyone have media for the 9836U version of HP-UX 5.1?  The copy on 
hpmuseum.net (http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=581) only 
works on the 9000/310 and I haven't found much of anything anywhere else.


Thanks as always,

Josh



Re: tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk

On 10/14/2017 1:33 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote:

On 10/14/17, 7:55 PM, "cctalk on behalf of steve shumaker via cctalk"
 wrote:



On 10/14/2017 10:42 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote:

On 10/14/17, 7:22 PM, "cctalk on behalf of steve shumaker via cctalk"

wrote:



found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: Tandem
Computers cartridge tapes and docs

Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half inch.   Some
are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  All have labels indicated
they are Tandem Computers "Site Update Tapes" with 1988, 89, and 90
dates.  Cursory google produced nothing. Secondary label on one
cartridge would seem to indicate they are used for software
distribution.

Sounds like DLT tapes.




Similar shape and overall size but the shutter and leader hook are
different

The only other format I know of that era that comes close is IBM 3480, but
that¹s less square, more like 5² x 4². Do you have pictures online
somewhere?



I did a very cursory google but didn't find anything.  I'll take some 
photos tonight and post them.


Steve




Re: tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk

On 10/14/2017 12:39 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

On 10/14/2017 12:22 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:
found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: Tandem 
Computers cartridge tapes and docs


Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half inch. Some 
are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  All have labels 
indicated they are Tandem Computers "Site Update Tapes" with 1988, 
89, and 90 dates.  Cursory google produced nothing. Secondary label 
on one cartridge would seem to indicate they are used for software 
distribution.


I have seven of the cartridges along with several Tandem Non-Stop 
manuals.  Manuals have been scanned.


Anyone interested?  Free for shipping from 95006 (call it 5lbs wt)

Steve



Hmmm, they just has a Tandem Computers reunion in the Bay area last 
month, with over 400 attendees!
If you aren't in touch with anybody from Tandem, I could mention this 
to my friend who used to work for them.
He used to have a Non-Stop I in his basement.  He built it from 
cast-off boards, some of them blank so he had to stuff them with chips.


Jon


feel free to inquire for me!


Steve



Re: tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 10/14/2017 12:22 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:
found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: 
Tandem Computers cartridge tapes and docs


Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half 
inch. Some are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  
All have labels indicated they are Tandem Computers "Site 
Update Tapes" with 1988, 89, and 90 dates.  Cursory google 
produced nothing. Secondary label on one cartridge would 
seem to indicate they are used for software distribution.


I have seven of the cartridges along with several Tandem 
Non-Stop manuals.  Manuals have been scanned.


Anyone interested?  Free for shipping from 95006 (call it 
5lbs wt)


Steve



Hmmm, they just has a Tandem Computers reunion in the Bay 
area last month, with over 400 attendees!
If you aren't in touch with anybody from Tandem, I could 
mention this to my friend who used to work for them.
He used to have a Non-Stop I in his basement.  He built it 
from cast-off boards, some of them blank so he had to stuff 
them with chips.


Jon


Re: tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk

On 10/14/2017 10:42 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote:

On 10/14/17, 7:22 PM, "cctalk on behalf of steve shumaker via cctalk"
 wrote:



found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: Tandem
Computers cartridge tapes and docs

Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half inch.   Some
are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  All have labels indicated
they are Tandem Computers "Site Update Tapes" with 1988, 89, and 90
dates.  Cursory google produced nothing. Secondary label on one
cartridge would seem to indicate they are used for software distribution.

Sounds like DLT tapes.




Similar shape and overall size but the shutter and leader hook are different


Steve



tandem computers cartridge tapes

2017-10-14 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
found as part of the stack saved from an engineers estate: Tandem 
Computers cartridge tapes and docs


Cartridges are appox 4x4x1 and the tape appears to be half inch.   Some 
are in boxes marked "Cartridge Tape CT-130"  All have labels indicated 
they are Tandem Computers "Site Update Tapes" with 1988, 89, and 90 
dates.  Cursory google produced nothing. Secondary label on one 
cartridge would seem to indicate they are used for software distribution.


I have seven of the cartridges along with several Tandem Non-Stop 
manuals.  Manuals have been scanned.


Anyone interested?  Free for shipping from 95006 (call it 5lbs wt)

Steve




RE: Giving away my collection to someone just starting out in the hobby

2017-10-14 Thread Jay West via cctalk
If anyone has interest in Digital Aeon's (aka Steve Landon) "offer to get rid 
of his collection", please contact him directly off-list, and let's not 
continue this thread here.

J




Re: Is a Hitachi P/N 21-18470-01 64Kx1 DRAM a rebadged 4864?

2017-10-14 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
 wrote:
> Hi, All,
>
> I have some Hitachi parts, marked 21-18470-01, that I pulled from a
> DEC Professional 350 on an upgrade to 256Kx1 DRAMs.  I am trying to
> track down a specific thing about them.  I found a vcfed.org post
> about these same type chips in a DEC Rainbow and the question (but not
> firm confirmation) that they could be Hitachi 4864s based on DEC parts
> lists.

Alas all I can tell you (from looking at the schematics) is that the Rainbow
does full 8 bit refresh on both the motherboard and the RAM expansion
board. So these ICs might be 7 bit refresh (since those would work with
an 8 bit refresh address), they might not

-tony


Re: Where is the memory on the AP-101S memory board?

2017-10-14 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Oct 11, 2017 07:35, "Shoppa, Tim via cctalk" 
wrote:

The AMD chips probably have two layers of legs.


I doubt it, but without a close-up at a different angle it's hard to say.

Are the AMD chips the memory, and the 54F the glue logic?


I suspect so.

 Maybe backtranslating to a core memory bus?


There was reportedly a lot of redesign throughout the computer, so I doubt
it.

Or are there memory SIP's on the other side?


I doubt it, but we need more photos.

In which case maybe the AMD chips might be some sort of error-correction
LSI's?


AMD did make ECC chips, so that is somewhat plausible.

This is just 1 Mbyte of RAM but of course with a long manned spaceflight
leadtime, date codes of 1986-1988 might imply a design from most of a
decade before.


Not in this case. 54F series TTL didn't exist decade before, and I don't
think it was even on the drawing board yet. If it really was designed in
1978 or earlier, it would have used 54S.

Maybe could have been designed for 54S and built with 54F, but I think
that's unlikely, as it would have required a full requalification of the
entire computer, for pretty limited benefit. Not something that's commonly
done, due to extreme expense of requalifying flight hardware.

I think it's more likely a design from 1982-1984. Possibly IBM FSD was
redesigning the computer for multiple aerospace applications, not just the
Space Shuttle.


Is a Hitachi P/N 21-18470-01 64Kx1 DRAM a rebadged 4864?

2017-10-14 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
Hi, All,

I have some Hitachi parts, marked 21-18470-01, that I pulled from a
DEC Professional 350 on an upgrade to 256Kx1 DRAMs.  I am trying to
track down a specific thing about them.  I found a vcfed.org post
about these same type chips in a DEC Rainbow and the question (but not
firm confirmation) that they could be Hitachi 4864s based on DEC parts
lists.

http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-24574.html

It matters to me because I'm trying to find some 7-bit/128-cycle
refresh DRAMs to stuff into a TRS-80 Model 4.  I mostly have 4164s
made by TI and such that are 8-bit refresh, so they won't do.  If
these are 4864s, then they'll do.

http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/memory/4164.htm

(I already have the GAL file for the Model 4 upgrade, so I don't need
the reminder that the 128K upgrade needs more than just eight more RAM
chips).

Thanks,

-ethan


Re: More tape drives - what is this one?

2017-10-14 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
What we use to call "Instrumentation" recorders. I've changed many a 14
inch reals with 1" tape, that at time was recording at 120 ips. Thats 10
feet / 3 meters/second. A LOT spinning mass :-) You should see what happens
when one comes off an unlocked hub at that speed.

The ones in the Ebay listing were what we called portable. Portable only
because they had handles and did not take 3 feet of rack space like the
Ampex and the 3 or 4 other makers.

Not really the 'good' days, but a lot of fun.

-pete Yes .. no longer gray hair, but silver hair



On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 10/13/2017 04:00 PM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote:
> > Found on eBay:
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/i/172896286711
> >
> > Something out of the '50s? Just curious.
>
> Multichannel audio recorder, I think:
>
> https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/budapesti_multi_channel_tape_shr_21.html
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>


DEC RRD40-44 Caddy Needed

2017-10-14 Thread Robert Adamson via cctalk
Does anyone (UK preferably) have a caddy for a DEC RRD44 CDROM drive which
they can spare?

I've acquired a microVax 3100 with no software which I want to mount VMS on.

Thanks

Bob

 



RE: DEC RRD40-44 Caddy Needed

2017-10-14 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message-
> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Adamson via cctech
> Sent: 13 October 2017 21:05
> To: cct...@classiccmp.org
> Subject: DEC RRD40-44 Caddy Needed
> 
> Does anyone (UK preferably) have a caddy for a DEC RRD44 CDROM drive
> which they can spare?
> 
> I've acquired a microVax 3100 with no software which I want to mount VMS
on.
> 
> Thanks
> 


I may have one, whereabouts are you?

Strictly though you may not need to use a physical drive. The way I do it
these days is to net boot off a SIMH machine.

Regards

Rob



Re: Looking for someone in North Carolina to assist person re-seat chips

2017-10-14 Thread Ethan via cctalk

Is there anyone here who'd be willing to help a person with an Amiga 2000
re-seat his CPU board's chips?  The symptoms he describes for a machine
that worked last week indicates that this is what is needed.   (blinking
power supply lights, etc.)  Anyone available?  If so, please contact me
privately.  I have had this happen to me in the past and fixed it that
way.
Not everyone is comfortable with opening a computer and doing such things,
but it should only take a few minutes.  I assume the person will come to
you.
Thanks
Bill Degnan


Has the battery been removed? If not... :-(


--
: Ethan O'Toole




HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive

2017-10-14 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk


Greetings to the List -

Does anyone have a copy of the text of the actual ISO 1863 standard 
that defines, I think, the formatting of the ancient 1/2" magnetic tapes???


I am interested to understand better the format of the calculated LRC 
at the end of tape blocks, sync signals, record gaps and all the rest.


I contemplate seeing if I can get an 1/2" tape drive operational with 
my 68K system by emulating the drive hardware control signals in software.


ISO 1863 appears to govern that:  https://webstore.iec.ch/publication/10668

I appreciate any leads.

Regards from the Rocky Mountains,

Jack




--
Jack Harper, President
Secure Outcomes Inc
2942 Evergreen Parkway, Suite 300
Evergreen, Colorado 80439 USA

303.670.8375
303.670.3750 (fax)

http://www.secureoutcomes.net for Product Info. 



Looking for someone in North Carolina to assist person re-seat chips

2017-10-14 Thread william degnan via cctalk
Is there anyone here who'd be willing to help a person with an Amiga 2000
re-seat his CPU board's chips?  The symptoms he describes for a machine
that worked last week indicates that this is what is needed.   (blinking
power supply lights, etc.)  Anyone available?  If so, please contact me
privately.  I have had this happen to me in the past and fixed it that
way.

Not everyone is comfortable with opening a computer and doing such things,
but it should only take a few minutes.  I assume the person will come to
you.

Thanks

Bill Degnan


Re: DEC Alpha 3000 and OpenVMS 8.4

2017-10-14 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
On 10/13/17, 3:36 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Jason Howe via cctalk"
 wrote:


>Hi Camiel,
>
>Is there a solution for Hobbyists to get the VSI 8.4 Alpha release?
>
>Last time I checked/inquired it seemed like there was uncertainty about
>it.  And from what I understand the standard HP Hobbyists License PAKs
>won't be of much use on a VSI system.
>
>Thanks,
>Jason

No, the HP PAKs won¹t work.

There is no formal hobbyist program yet, but if you have a pressing need,
or a good explanation of why you want to run the VSI version, you can
contact VSI and we¹ll look at this on a case-by-case basis (not myself,
but others in the company). You can use the general email address provided
on the Contact page on our website (www.vmssoftware.com)

Kind regards,

Camiel Vanderhoeven
OpenVMS Kernel Engineer

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